Missouri pops the ObamaCare-media bubble

posted at 8:48 am on August 4, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

One meme had materialized over the last couple of weeks that ObamaCare had begun to get more popular with voters.  Using a couple of carefully-selected media polls, the White House had started this claim and the press seemed willing to ignore the avalanche of other polling showing that solid majorities favor repeal of the overhaul and the candidates who argue for repeal.  That meme died in Missouri, where almost three-quarters of the voters who came to the polls cast votes for a largely symbolic measure repudiating one of ObamaCare’s key provisions:

Missouri voters on Tuesday overwhelmingly rejected a federal mandate to purchase health insurance, rebuking President Barack Obama’s administration and giving Republicans their first political victory in a national campaign to overturn the controversial health care law passed by Congress in March.

“The citizens of the Show-Me State don’t want Washington involved in their health care decisions,” said Sen. Jane Cunningham, R-Chesterfield, one of the sponsors of the legislation that put Proposition C on the August ballot. She credited a grass-roots campaign involving Tea Party and patriot groups with building support for the anti-Washington proposition.

With most of the vote counted, Proposition C was winning by a ratio of nearly 3 to 1. The measure, which seeks to exempt Missouri from the insurance mandate in the new health care law, includes a provision that would change how insurance companies that go out of business in Missouri liquidate their assets. …

Missouri was the first of four states to seek to opt out of the insurance purchase mandate portion of the health care law that had been pushed by Obama. And while many legal scholars question whether the vote will be binding, the overwhelming approval gives the national GOP momentum as Arizona, Florida and Oklahoma hold similar votes during midterm elections in November.

How big was this victory?  Three weeks ago, Rasmussen polled likely voters in Missouri and asked whether they supported repeal of ObamaCare.  At that time, 58% said they supported its repeal, with 50% strongly supporting it.  Thirty-eight percent said they opposed repeal.  That 58/38 split turned into a 71/29 disaster for Democrats and Obama.

If anything, this shows that opposition to ObamaCare is growing, not receding, but that’s probably not what actually happened.  While general-population and registered-voter samples may have seen a bit of softening to ObamaCare opposition, those aren’t the people turning out to vote this year.  Even Rasmussen may be underestimating the power of ObamaCare repeal in its likely-voter turnout, as their last poll on this question in Missouri clearly underestimated (in an indirect survey, of course) the results for this election.

Bear in mind that over 315,000 Democrats turned out to cast ballots in the primary that nominated Robin Carnahan, while over 577,000 Republicans hit the polls.  That is about a 65/35 split — which means that a significant amount of Democrats either supported the ballot measure repudiating ObamaCare, or didn’t bother to cast a vote to defend the program.  Actually, Prop C got more votes than the combined voting in both Senate primaries — which tells us something even more about the passion in the electorate.

Democrats may have to hit the panic button after seeing the results from this swing state.  ObamaCare set fire to the electorate last year, and that may be an inferno for Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid in November.

Addendum: Carnahan should also be very, very worried.  Republicans beat Democrats in turnout almost 2-1 in the primaries for the US Senate despite the fact that Blunt won just as big as she did.  That’s a very bad sign for November for her, too.


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That 58/38 split turned into a 71/29 disaster for Democrats and Obama.
how does this happen. It’s a 10+ point swing against Obamacare. Does this mean that the sample underrepresented those in favor of prop C, or did Dems change their minds and vote with the prop C supporters….this is a big shift. I can see 5 points, but 10? help me out, how does this happen?

ted c on August 4, 2010 at 11:32 AM

Go back and look at my earlier posts. This vote was on a particular provision of Obamacare that people dislike more than Obamacare as a whole. That’s why the results don’t match up with the Rasmussen poll.

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM

Go back and look at my earlier posts. This vote was on a particular provision of Obamacare that people dislike more than Obamacare as a whole. That’s why the results don’t match up with the Rasmussen poll.

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM

I already wiped with them.

and the foundation is laid for repeal.

wear it bub.

ted c on August 4, 2010 at 12:10 PM

ObamaCare “Game” Board

maverick muse on August 4, 2010 at 12:12 PM

wear it bub.

ted c on August 4, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Whatever. When opposition to a particular provision is 13% more than opposition to Obamacare as a whole, it probably answers your question about the shift.

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM

When opposition to a particular provision is 13% more than opposition to Obamacare as a whole, it probably answers your question about the shift.

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM

When people start lining up to buy this craphole insurance of their own accord rather than being forced to do so, then I’ll reconsider how much love they have for it as you suggest.

pwned.

ted c on August 4, 2010 at 12:15 PM

When people start lining up to buy this craphole insurance of their own accord rather than being forced to do so, then I’ll reconsider how much love they have for it as you suggest.

pwned.

ted c on August 4, 2010 at 12:15 PM

kingjester

Funny. It looks like less than a majority are in favor of outright repeal when given alternatives:

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. July 16-21, 2010. N=1,018 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

“Thinking about the health care bill that Congress passed earlier this year, which of the following statements best describes your view of what Congress should do in the future? Congress should leave the bill as it is. Congress should make additional changes to increase the government’s involvement in the nation’s health care system. Congress should repeal most of the major provisions in that bill and replace them with a completely different set of proposals.” Options rotated

“Thinking about the health care bill that Congress passed this week. . . .”

Leave as is Increase
government’s
involvement Repeal and
replace Unsure
% % % %
7/16-21/10
20 30 48 2
3/25-28/10
23 27 47 3

——————————————————————————–

Bloomberg Poll conducted by Selzer & Co. July 9-12, 2010. N=1,004 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.

“Turning to the health care bill passed earlier this year, what is your opinion of the bill? It should be repealed. We should see how it works. It should be left alone.”

Should be
repealed See how
it works Should be
left alone Unsure
% % % %
7/9-12/10
37 47 14 2

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Or would you concede that this vote represents a broad vote against the law as a whole?

blink on August 4, 2010 at 12:17 PM

nawh, he gots his talkin’ points and those say that quoth: “Pieces of the bill do not suck nearly as bad as the individual mandate, so get out there and talk about how much these pieces of the bill don’t suck nearly as bad as the individual mandate sucks.”
/axlerod

ted c on August 4, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Hey Barry?

I think this means that we want the car keys back.

Bobbertsan on August 4, 2010 at 10:17 AM

+1000

txmomof6 on August 4, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Hey, Jimbo – I’m sure both people still watching CNN just love Obamacare. This is from realclearpolitics.com:

RCP Average 7/8 – 7/25 — 37.0 51.8 Against/Oppose +14.8
Rasmussen Reports* 7/24 – 7/25 1000 LV 37 58 Against/Oppose +21
CBS News 7/9 – 7/12 966 A 36 49 Against/Oppose +13
PPP (D) 7/9 – 7/12 667 RV 40 53 Against/Oppose +13
Pew/National Journal 7/8 – 7/11 1001 A 35 47 Against/Oppose +12

kingsjester on August 4, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 12:20 PM
I think I can, I think I can, I think I can. Just keep chuggin’
See you in November.

txmomof6 on August 4, 2010 at 12:24 PM

keep dancing Jimbo. Missouri spoke and they don’t like your nuance. Alas, your fellow Dems in the media and Congress are demonstrating tomorrow’s talking points here.

ted c on August 4, 2010 at 12:25 PM

People who say the MSM is ignoring this story are missing the point. Congressmen and their political consultants know the results. Now would be a good time to call the Rep. leadership and stress how much repeal is the answer to Obamacare. Focus their attention a little bit.

txmomof6 on August 4, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Bring on the FIRESTORM OF THE ELECTORATE in November…….

……BURN OUT THE INCUMBENTS (with another FIRESTORM coming in November 2012)!!!!!

PappyD61 on August 4, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Jimbo3, are you claiming that the voters in MONTH understand the nuances of the Healthcare Law better than members of Congress?

Or would you concede that this vote represents a broad vote against the law as a whole?

blink on August 4, 2010 at 12:17 PM

Likely and registered voters are against the law, but not to the extent of the MO vote. But they also don’t seem to have a majority to repear the whole law if given more than a yes/no vote.

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 12:31 PM

But they also don’t seem to have a majority to repear the whole law if given more than a yes/no vote.

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Denial. River. Egypt.

txmomof6 on August 4, 2010 at 12:34 PM

Another scary pit is Gary Indiana. Also O’bama country.
Del Dolemonte on August 4, 2010 at 11:09 AM

OMG, scary doesn’t do it justice.
I drove by there on the way from Chicago to see my son at Notre Dame, and I was afraid just looking at it from the interstate. What a desolate, depressing city.

That’s what liberalism does.

Marybeth on August 4, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Denial. River. Egypt.

txmomof6 on August 4, 2010 at 12:34 PM

Do enlighten us, oh all-seeing prophet.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 12:45 PM

Pardon me…prophetess.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 12:45 PM

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 12:45 PM

Se was pointing out that Jimbo was ignoring the results of the election last night as well as national polls showing the Opposition to the monster known as Obamacare. No prophecy about it. Just facts.

kingsjester on August 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM

*She

kingsjester on August 4, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Rush just said the msm is spinning already, due to all the tea party folks there

Heh

cmsinaz on August 4, 2010 at 1:01 PM

God BLESS the good citizens of Missouri!!!!!

Katfish on August 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Bear in mind that over 315,000 Democrats turned out to cast ballots in the primary that nominated Robin Carnahan, while over 577,000 Republicans hit the polls. That is about a 65/35 split — which means that a significant amount of Democrats either supported the ballot measure repudiating ObamaCare, or didn’t bother to cast a vote to defend the program. Actually, Prop C got more votes than the combined voting in both Senate primaries — which tells us something even more about the passion in the electorate.

Ed, Rush just quoted this. +dittoes

ted c on August 4, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Rush is reading Ed’s post on his show now. :)

petefrt on August 4, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Shout out to HA! Yes!

cmsinaz on August 4, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Rush just quoted new gallup numbers that 62% of whites are for sho’ racists, er, I meant his support amongst whites is only 38%….

ted c on August 4, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Jimbo’s argument doesn’t square with reality. If the individual mandate is taken out of Obamacare, the entirety of the law is defanged. Ergo, the most unpopular part of the law is the bulwark supporting the law. Can’t have one without the other. “Free healthcare” sounds great to me, coverage for pre-existing conditions sounds good too. However, those are unsustainable unless people are forced to buy in, which the government forcing me to buy a product is my (and others’) major complaint with this law. So, I’ll trade off the “feel good” and “fairness” provisions of the law to maintain my liberty any day of the week, and I believe that’s what Missouri voters decided as well.

change is for suckers on August 4, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Whatever. When opposition to a particular provision is 13% more than opposition to Obamacare as a whole, it probably answers your question about the shift.

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM

That’s ridiculous. Obamacare’s foundation is built on the mandate. That 13% probably didn’t know what Obamacare was. All they heard was how it was going to be FREE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL. And then when they looked into it and found out it meant forcing me to buy insurance, they quickly changed their support.

angryed on August 4, 2010 at 1:34 PM

change is for suckers on August 4, 2010 at 1:29 PM

great post. I agree. The statist types are always seeking something to get us to trade our freedom and liberty for some pipe dream they’ll never, or incompletely, fulfill. Pick one, Social Security, VA benefits, Obamacare and so on… and they try to package it in feelgood, soundsgood and all kinds of other doublespeak.

ted c on August 4, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Correct me if I’m wrong, am late to this party, but it seems to me that if you’re against the mandate, you’re against Obamacare.
Period.
Obamacare only works with the mandate because Obamacare is only about getting to singlepayer.
It must suck to be a Democrat in DC today.

ORconservative on August 4, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Rush is reading Ed’s post on his show now. :)

petefrt on August 4, 2010 at 1:21 PM

From Ed’s keyboard to millions of EIB listeners… :)

ObamaCare is less popular than cholera.

Norwegian on August 4, 2010 at 1:42 PM

WASHINGTON — Was it not enough for President Obama to saddle future Americans with billions of dollars in new health benefits and entitlements that they simply cannot afford?

He also had to go and corrupt one of America’s most beloved figures of the last half-century. And stick you with the $700,000 bill.

Schadenfreude on August 4, 2010 at 1:43 PM

That 13% probably didn’t know what Obamacare was. All they heard was how it was going to be FREE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL. And then when they looked into it and found out it meant forcing me to buy insurance, they quickly changed their support.

angryed on August 4, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Again – they like the idea of Obamacare, they just want it for free. Thankfully people are starting to see that ‘free’…well…isn’t. At least for this case.

But the basic attitude is not going away…and therein is the real problem.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 1:44 PM

Jimbo3 and Dark-star

Do you live in Missouri and know the reasons why it was a resolution and not an amendment? No? Then STFU with your ‘it was about the mandate, not 0bamaCare itself’

Wolftech on August 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Jimbo’s argument doesn’t square with reality. If the individual mandate is taken out of Obamacare, the entirety of the law is defanged. Ergo, the most unpopular part of the law is the bulwark supporting the law. Can’t have one without the other. “Free healthcare” sounds great to me, coverage for pre-existing conditions sounds good too. However, those are unsustainable unless people are forced to buy in, which the government forcing me to buy a product is my (and others’) major complaint with this law. So, I’ll trade off the “feel good” and “fairness” provisions of the law to maintain my liberty any day of the week, and I believe that’s what Missouri voters decided as well.

change is for suckers on August 4, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Why are you being so mean to Jimbo3?

Don’t you know that he isn’t capable of understanding your reasoning, and that thinking makes his head hurt?

Bizarro No. 1 on August 4, 2010 at 1:52 PM

WASHINGTON — Was it not enough for President Obama to saddle future Americans with billions of dollars in new health benefits and entitlements that they simply cannot afford?
He also had to go and corrupt one of America’s most beloved figures of the last half-century. And stick you with the $700,000 bill.
Schadenfreude on August 4, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Sheriff Taylor’s health pitch sparks cardiac arrest

Yes, not only do they Rahm this down our throats, but they are using OUR money to try and sell it.

Where do we go to get a refund for this travesty?

Chip on August 4, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM

So your point is the vast majority of the voters rejected Obama care
60% overall and 70% are really ticked off?

That doesn’t bode well for Obama care.

Basically a “supper majority” of the voters reject Obama care and a “supper Duper majority” really rejected Obama care.

DSchoen on August 4, 2010 at 1:57 PM

Do you live in Missouri and know the reasons why it was a resolution and not an amendment? No? Then STFU with your ‘it was about the mandate, not 0bamaCare itself’

Wolftech on August 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Who died and made you king? Go argue with some wolves, that’s about more your IQ level.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:00 PM

Don’t you know that he isn’t capable of understanding your reasoning, and that thinking makes his head hurt?

Bizarro No. 1 on August 4, 2010 at 1:52 PM

And yet you lot whine like toddlers when the liberals say the same thing about you. Oh the irony.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:04 PM

Again – they like the idea of Obamacare, they just want it for free. Thankfully people are starting to see that ‘free’…well…isn’t. At least for this case.

But the basic attitude is not going away…and therein is the real problem.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 1:44 PM

So, what your saying is that 0bamacare supporters are naive, intellectually shallow people driven by emotion, the type who can be easily swayed to vote for transparently phony politicians like 0bamessiah himself. Who could have guessed such a thing?

Bizarro No. 1 on August 4, 2010 at 2:04 PM

And yet you lot whine like toddlers when the liberals say the same thing about you. Oh the irony.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:04 PM

LOL if you only knew how stupid and misdirected this comment of yours was, you’d be LOLing just like I am. Too bad you aren’t close to being smart enough to know what I mean! :D

Bizarro No. 1 on August 4, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Bizarro No. 1 on August 4, 2010 at 2:04 PM

Your (extremely exaggerated) words, not mine.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM

Bizarro No. 1 on August 4, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Keep on, Bizarro man. You’re only proving that you are as stupid, shallow, and semi-psychotic as the left.

No freaking wonder America can’t get anyone with half a brain elected. We have to keep choosing between two sides that have been hijacked by mental Walter Mittys!

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:18 PM

Your (extremely exaggerated) words, not mine.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM

Oh, so former 0bamacare supporters who didn’t bother digging deep enough into it to understand what it really entailed when they initially got all excited about it aren’t intellectually shallow and driven by emotion? According to you, Nancy was right – that bill did need to pass so that ‘we’ could see what was it it, right?

Yeah, I was “extremely” exaggerating the truth about the people she was referring to, wasn’t I? Too bad that you struggle accepting that, but…that what happens when you’re stupid like you are! :D

Bizarro No. 1 on August 4, 2010 at 2:29 PM

Oh, so former 0bamacare supporters who didn’t bother digging deep enough into it to understand what it really entailed when they initially got all excited about it aren’t intellectually shallow and driven by emotion? According to you, Nancy was right – that bill did need to pass so that ‘we’ could see what was it it, right?

Was there a coherent point in that paragraph, or have you been at the moonshine jug again?

Too bad that you struggle accepting that, but…that what happens when you’re stupid like you are! :D

Bizarro No. 1 on August 4, 2010 at 2:29 PM

Stop talking to the mirror. It makes you look crazier.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:32 PM

Hey Barry?

I think this means that we want the car keys back.

Bobbertsan on August 4, 2010 at 10:17 AM

To the American car parked on the road, not to that Marxist jelopy that you pushed out of the mud to the side of the road and have been swearing to us still runs, if you through enough money into it.

Franklyn on August 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM

Actually, given the other provisions, we get to single-payer faster without the mandate (or with a weak mandate) than with it. I’ve never understood the tactical value of going at the mandate, although I am as offended by the last 70 years of commerce clause jurisprudence as most of the rest of you.

DrSteve on August 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM

through throw corrected

Franklyn on August 4, 2010 at 2:36 PM

I’ve never understood the tactical value of going at the mandate…

DrSteve on August 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM

1. There’s a perception among some that defeating it means we won’t pay for Obamacare. (I wish!)

2. There isn’t enough legal/political firepower to repeal the whole shebang yet.

3. The mandate is the most immediate and odious part because people can see how it reaches all the way from DC into their pockets, and insurance companies are not held very high in public esteem right now.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:45 PM

Jimbo3 and Dark-star

Do you live in Missouri and know the reasons why it was a resolution and not an amendment? No? Then STFU with your ‘it was about the mandate, not 0bamaCare itself’

Wolftech on August 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM

I can read English. Here is the text of Proposition C:

Proposition C
Shall the Missouri Statutes be amended to:
• Deny the government authority to penalize citizens for refusing to purchase private health insurance or infringe
upon the right to offer or accept direct payment for lawful healthcare services?
• Modify laws regarding the liquidation of certain domestic insurance companies?
It is estimated this proposal will have no immediate costs or savings to state or local governmental entities. However,
because of the uncertain interaction of the proposal with implementation of the federal Patient Protection and
Affordable Care Act, future costs to state governmental entities are unknown.
YES NO

You might want to read the following link, if you think you actually voted last night to effectively repeal Obamacare:

http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2010m8d3-Missouris-Proposition-C-innaccurately-being-sold-as-a-referendum-on-health-care-reform

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 2:47 PM

Keep on, Bizarro man. You’re only proving that you are as stupid, shallow, and semi-psychotic as the left.

No freaking wonder America can’t get anyone with half a brain elected. We have to keep choosing between two sides that have been hijacked by mental Walter Mittys!

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:18 PM

You love to babble, don’t you?

I’m not the humorless, pompous moron who cluelessly directed “your lot” at myself, am I? Leftists, and their apologists like you, don’t (negatively) impact me one iota when they accuse me of being stupid and/or crazy – see, that’s what happens when you’re someone who cares to take an objective look at which side can make it arguments w/o invariably resorting to logical fallacies in the process of doing so, and I can see that you’re not someone who does care about such a heady topic; it’s obvious thinking hurts your head like it does Jimbo’s, which is why you ran to his defense the way you did. You’re easy to read!

Now, insult me again w/o any regard to the accuracy of your charges, like you’ve done before! I command you! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on August 4, 2010 at 2:48 PM

I’ve never understood the tactical value of going at the mandate…

DrSteve on August 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM

1. There’s a perception among some that defeating it means we won’t pay for Obamacare. (I wish!)

2. There isn’t enough legal/political firepower to repeal the whole shebang yet.

3. The mandate is the most immediate and odious part because people can see how it reaches all the way from DC into their pockets, and insurance companies are not held very high in public esteem right now.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:45 PM

Usually a bill has a provision that negating one part does not negate any other part of the legislation. The dems were in such a hurry to get this out that they neglected to add that provision. So rule one part unconstitutional, it all is unconstitutional.

Vince on August 4, 2010 at 2:49 PM

I guess the reptilian brain has trouble understanding the value of socialized medicine

\Janeane Garofalo

tom on August 4, 2010 at 2:50 PM

Vince on August 4, 2010 at 2:49 PM

Yes, that too!

Thank you. Forgot about that detail.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:51 PM

Was there a coherent point in that paragraph, or have you been at the moonshine jug again?

You’re definitely one of those shameless, arrogant ‘when I want you’re opinion, I’ll give it you to’ people, who’s too stupid and cowardly to genuinely acknowledge that trait within himself.

Stop talking to the mirror. It makes you look crazier.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:32 PM

Oh no, a bad-humored, retarded Leftist apologist believes I look crazy! How can I go on! :(

Bizarro No. 1 on August 4, 2010 at 2:59 PM

So it begins…71% vote yes on prop C.

Narrative=Meaningless.

Good job leftists.

Inanemergencydial on August 4, 2010 at 3:12 PM

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 2:47 PM

I know what it says. However, I ASKED if you knew why it was a Resolution and not a amendment to the Missouri Constitution. If you lived here, you would know. Since you do not, and like all liberal fools, think you know more than anyone else, I will leave you to ponder that. That is, if you are actually capable doing anything but spouting the talking point of the day or cutting and pasting from HuffPo or wherever.

Im done with this thread, because libtards like you fail at reading comprehension. Of course, that’s the kind of education you get from Federally mandated public education.

Wolftech on August 4, 2010 at 3:58 PM

Sgt. “Gibbsy” Schultz (I Know Nothingk) says the Missouri vote means nothing!
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/112685-gibbs-dismisses-missouri-vote-against-health-insurance-mandate

txmomof6 on August 4, 2010 at 4:08 PM

None of this will matter to a Democrat party intent on destroying a free America. I would imagine sooner or later Obama or Democrat leaders will spin this a proof they didn’t go far enough. That the people are crying out for a public option! But just as our opinions matter little to them, what they say should mean even less to us. Defeating Democrats and RINOs is our only definition of victory. Defeating their policies, their edicts, their candidates and those who they have installed in appointments. Half the State Dept. needs to be fired. Not just Democrat candidates, but all of those who have been appointed or hired by Democrats need to be removed as well.

JellyToast on August 4, 2010 at 4:22 PM

I hope that the leftists and progressives truly think this vote means nothing, focusing, as it does, on the mandate and not Obama-care in toto.

If they truly believe this, then November may be Surprise Surprise Surprise!

Dhuka on August 4, 2010 at 4:51 PM

Stop talking to the mirror. It makes you look crazier.

Dark-Star on August 4, 2010 at 2:32 PM

That’s a little bit ‘grade school’, isn’t it? I mean, it’s nothing more than “I know you are, what am I?” and “I’m rubber, you’re glue, blah blah…”

Good grief.

Midas on August 4, 2010 at 4:57 PM

That’s a little bit ‘grade school’, isn’t it? I mean, it’s nothing more than “I know you are, what am I?” and “I’m rubber, you’re glue, blah blah…”

Good grief.

Midas on August 4, 2010 at 4:57 PM

I, someone far above the fray alongside my good pals Frum and Brooks, can see that I struck a nerve with another one of you lot!

/Dark-Star, speaking in a Thurston Howell III voice

Bizarro No. 1 on August 4, 2010 at 5:09 PM

I know what it says. However, I ASKED if you knew why it was a Resolution and not a amendment to the Missouri Constitution. If you lived here, you would know. Since you do not, and like all liberal fools, think you know more than anyone else, I will leave you to ponder that. That is, if you are actually capable doing anything but spouting the talking point of the day or cutting and pasting from HuffPo or wherever.

Im done with this thread, because libtards like you fail at reading comprehension. Of course, that’s the kind of education you get from Federally mandated public education.

Wolftech on August 4, 2010 at 3:58 PM

It was because it would have been blocked in the MO House or Senate if it had been an amendment.

Jimbo3 on August 4, 2010 at 5:27 PM

Democrats may have to hit the panic button after seeing the results from this swing state.

One word:

Delicious.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM

I had NO IDEA that Jim Lembke was one of the sponsors of Prop C. Jim was my state rep when I lived in St. Louis county from 2006-2007. I know he’s a state senator now. Jim’s a great guy and a true patriot. I’m thrilled for him…and for the citizens of Missouri.
I wish that this cesspool that is Illinois would do something similar, but that takes balls-and few of the GOP at state level have any.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 4, 2010 at 11:52 PM

The whole point of the vote is that it raises yet another red flag to this administration. I’m sure more will come with further destruction of the lefty agenda.

LarryG on August 5, 2010 at 2:45 PM

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