Stark explains that the Constitution has no meaning at all

posted at 8:48 am on August 2, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Sometimes when we start getting a lot of e-mail about a video clip, the results are disappointing. Not this time; in fact, the e-mailers may have undersold this Breitbart clip of Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA), the lunatic who once told a constituent that he wouldn’t bother wasting urine on him, telling a crowd that the federal government has no real limitations in telling people how to live their lives. The setup to this question may be the most clear elucidation of the Constitutional issues involved in ObamaCare, and Stark literally has no answer for them:

A few points should be noted. While the woman argues effectively about the 13th Amendment bar on slavery, the Fifth Amendment protection against confiscation of private property also applies, as does the Article I, Section 8 mandate on Congress to protect the ownership of “exclusive right to their Writings and Discoveries” for those in the sciences and the arts. Also, take a look at Stark’s body language in this exchange. Normally combative (and aggressively insipid in most cases), Stark seems to be collapsing in on himself as the woman builds an argument effectively enough to win applause from her fellow constituents. The bombastic Stark is almost inaudible when he admits that ObamaCare is a symptom of a federal government that no longer adheres to Constitutional limitations, and indeed doesn’t recognize them at all.

Republicans in every district should play this clip and demand an answer from incumbent Democrats who voted for ObamaCare.


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Stark,must be a student of Barry Soetoro`s Lecture
class`s from Chicago!!!!!!!!!!(sarc).

canopfor on August 2, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Wow! She really nailed him. I almost felt sorry for the poor guy…he honestly didn’t know how to answer her questions.

It’s frightening to think that someone could be in Congress so long and truly not have examined his role vis a vis the Constitution.

Dee2008 on August 2, 2010 at 8:52 AM

The setup to this question may be the most clear elucidation of the Constitutional issues involved in ObamaCare, and Stark literally has no answer for them:

I agree. I wish I had the reptilian skills to communicate the Constitution in such an effective manner. Yet my primitive vocal cords just manage either a “croak” or a “hiss” sometimes….huh! maybe next year?

ted c on August 2, 2010 at 8:52 AM

I think we need a huge amount of tar, feathers, pitchforks and rope……these people are out of control

reaganrules on August 2, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Stark is a snake, that’s for sure.

kingsjester on August 2, 2010 at 8:55 AM

He doesn’t give a flip what these people think or what the Constitution actually states… he’s safe and he knows it.

mankai on August 2, 2010 at 8:55 AM

Also, take a look at Stark’s body language in this exchange. Normally combative (and aggressively insipid in most cases), Stark seems to be collapsing in on himself as the woman builds an argument effectively enough to win applause from her fellow constituents.

I might add that I saw a Mutual of Omaha Wild Kingdom episode that reminded me of this exchange once…..It involved a cheetah hurtling along at like 60 mph that eventually sunk her teeth into the neck of a limping wildebeest that closely resembles Mr. Stark….After the cheetah took the beast down, it did the kickin’ chicken and went pretty limp and groaned a few times.

Mr Stark just became lunch…..Welcome to Darwinian Selection, bub.

ted c on August 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM

So much for “upholding and defending” the Constitution.

mankai on August 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM

What I think is funny is how the ACLU defends the right to privacy, not for medical records, the Second Amendment, not for Americans, the right to property, nope none of that …

And on it goes … What does the ACLU do anyway?

tarpon on August 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM

At least Stark has the cajones to call it like he sees it.

The question remains if his constituents agree with him.

maverick muse on August 2, 2010 at 8:57 AM

Stark, unfortunately will be there until the day he dies. He will never be replaced. Same with Maxine Waters and another winner Lynn Woolsey. The people in their districts will just keep sending them back.

sandee on August 2, 2010 at 8:57 AM

Yeah, it must be tough for him to sit there and have to tolerate such a mob.

JellyToast on August 2, 2010 at 8:57 AM

He doesn’t care…he represents a district that believes exactly what he believes.
And no, he wasn’t “brow beaten” he just didn’t really care. He was bored, he can do whatever he wants, and the public won’t stop him. He knows it and he is right, in his district.

right2bright on August 2, 2010 at 8:57 AM

I almost felt sorry for the poor guy…he honestly didn’t know how to answer her questions.

Dee2008 on August 2, 2010 at 8:52 AM

While that’s your prerogative, I have to say that, personally, my level of sympathy for this utter waste of carbon hovers right around the level of Sarah Spitz’s sympathy for Rush Limbaugh.

Cylor on August 2, 2010 at 8:58 AM

This is a classic text book case of hubris.

These kinds of displays always lead to an embarrassing failure for a person or organization.

Good news.

Dorvillian on August 2, 2010 at 8:58 AM

His usual style of interacting with his constituents was limited due to the meds he appears to be on. That type of question usually invokes an over-the-top reply. Pete’s doped up here…

av8tr on August 2, 2010 at 9:00 AM

The question remains if his constituents agree with him.

maverick muse on August 2, 2010 at 8:57 AM

They do, which is why he was so casual…big deal, have your day, he will be elected time and again.
I think he was more bemused and bored, he did not have to defend. Notice he came right out and stated the feds can do whatever they want…he beleives and his constituents agree. There was no reason for him to get bombastic “I won”.

right2bright on August 2, 2010 at 9:00 AM

Hey, isn’t he an atheist?

Darth Executor on August 2, 2010 at 9:00 AM

One of the few powers the Constitution gives to the federal govt is the authority to secure our borders, but it would rather do the 10,000 other things that the Constitution doesn’t authorize.

itsnotaboutme on August 2, 2010 at 9:00 AM

A Refesher on how out of touch Stark is,
==========================================

THE BORDERS ARE QUITE SECURE. Congressman Pete Stark’s Town hall meeting in Fremont CA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qVpMwqv7QM
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And,the Infamous,

PETE STARK: “I wouldn’t dignify you by peeing on your leg”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUpW6lM958M

canopfor on August 2, 2010 at 9:00 AM

More evidence that we will end up with either a dictatorship or a full-blown uprising — unless we can manage to get people into government in the next two election cycles who will roll up their sleeves and start shuttering federal agencies left and right, defunding federal programs that do more harm than good, and finding creative ways of neutering the bureaucrats and the petty tyrants in the DC establishment.

Aitch748 on August 2, 2010 at 9:01 AM

This exchange is the poster child to what is wrong with our government today. The idiots in charge in DC have lost their souls to BIG GOVERNMENT. I wonder when the last time any of them really read the constitution.

karenhasfreedom on August 2, 2010 at 9:02 AM

“What Constitution?”

Not really trying to be clandestine about it anymore.

listens2glenn on August 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM

Are you serious?

golfmann on August 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM

Hey, isn’t he an atheist?

Darth Executor on August 2, 2010 at 9:00 AM

Yep.

kingsjester on August 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM

Stark appears to me medicated.

Look at the physical distance between him and “his people”

Hening on August 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM

And on it goes … What does the ACLU do anyway?

tarpon on August 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM

They say : “Who wanna get paid?!?!”

JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM

Precisely why the Tea Parties are gaining momentum. We’ve let them get away with this mind set for too long. Their time is up. Every Democrat that has “outed” themselves feels like Pete Stark. The whole Dem party is a seething mass of rage because now we know what they stand for and it isn’t the Constitution. Vote them out!

BetseyRoss on August 2, 2010 at 9:04 AM

Cylor on August 2, 2010 at 8:58 AM

Yeah, that’s why I said “almost.” OTOH I’m not sure anyone deserves Sarah Spitz’ level of sympathy for Limbaugh. She’s so hateful she surprises herself.

Dee2008 on August 2, 2010 at 9:04 AM

This guy was in a running for many years with Joe Biden, Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi as the absolute dumbest person in the Congress.

And yet, the CA liberals who keep sending this piece of trash to Washington think it’s just dandy.

Good Lt on August 2, 2010 at 9:07 AM

She’s good. She’s very good. More of the big lady with the mouth, please.

S. Weasel on August 2, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Dee2008 on August 2, 2010 at 8:52 AM

The writers of the Constitution were informed by two trains of thought the enlightenment and the reformation. Washington’s ability to walk away after two terms were very much in keeping with his understanding of “those who would be first must be the servant of all.” Modern politicians have returned to the concept of aristocracy and believe they have a divine right to rule over us. Hopefully, we can disabuse them of that viewpoint over the next two election cycles or I fear the only solution available will be the one of last resort our founders used.

chemman on August 2, 2010 at 9:08 AM

Republicans in every district should play this clip and demand an answer from incumbent Democrats who voted for ObamaCare.

I would like to add, citizens in every district should play this clip and demand an answer from Republicans, as well as Democrats. GOP representatives must also be made to elucidate their understanding of the limits of Federal authority before we are asked to trust them with power again. Given their performance in recent years, I’m not sure the Republicans’ answer would be significantly different, with the exception of which imaginary Federal powers they would wish to exercise.

slknoerr on August 2, 2010 at 9:08 AM

The Federal Government,yes can,do most anything in this
country!! -Stark

OMG,WTF!!!!

It reminds me of,no rules, we make’em up!!
=========================================

Key House Democrat: “There Are No Rules Here … We Make Them Up As We Go Along”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbHTJSu_2Lk

canopfor on August 2, 2010 at 9:09 AM

With all due respect, has anyone ever checked to see if possibly Pete Stark is showing symptoms of Altzheimers? Because I seriously cannot see how anyone can even listen to this man now and not wondering if he has wooley caterpillars crawling around between his ears!

pilamaye on August 2, 2010 at 9:09 AM

Stark is almost inaudible when he admits that ObamaCare is a symptom of a federal government that no longer adheres to Constitutional limitations, and indeed doesn’t recognize them at all.

Which brings a huge smile to the faces of
Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright,and Obama.

Baxter Greene on August 2, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Just another arrogant, intellectually lazy, fat old man living off the taxpayer teat.

It wouldn’t happen if his district’s voters didn’t keep returning Grandpa to Congress every election.

jdflorida on August 2, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Keep talking

blatantblue on August 2, 2010 at 9:10 AM

The official position of Mr. Tom Perriello D VA-5.

Tie our hands or we’ll keep stealing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0GmQwXMfW4

Mr. Stark—we do anything we want
Mr. Perriello—we steal and will keep doing so
Mr. Obama—you’re using your reptilian brain

ted c on August 2, 2010 at 9:12 AM

…telling a crowd that the federal government has no real limitations in telling people how to live their lives.

Yeah that’s the problem, that’s why there are tea parties and irate citizens at town halls.

His statements should not be true, but they are thanks to an insane judiciary full of progressive law school professors who aid an abet the overreach of Congress and the Executive branches.

forest on August 2, 2010 at 9:12 AM

I agree. I wish I had the reptilian skills to communicate the Constitution in such an effective manner. Yet my primitive vocal cords just manage either a “croak” or a “hiss” sometimes….huh! maybe next year?

ted c on August 2, 2010 at 8:52 AM

Heh!!!

Baxter Greene on August 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM

Well old Fortney has been in Congress since 1973 and I don’t expect to see him go any time soon. I’m a Californian and his district, more or less, agrees with every thing he says and does. Sad but true.

sandee on August 2, 2010 at 9:14 AM

Maybe Rep. Stark can point out to us all what article and section of the US Constitution says “the federal government can do most anything it wants.”

We are all, after all, racist hick inbreeding gun-toters out here who can’t read.

Now’s your chance, Mr. Stark. Educate us.

Good Lt on August 2, 2010 at 9:14 AM

Don’t miss his snide little retort at the end to the accusation that politicians such as him are ruining the country.

I’m sure that you’re here to save it.

Disturb the Universe on August 2, 2010 at 9:14 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAVTTGkHEeU

DTOM

ted c on August 2, 2010 at 9:16 AM

When does bow season open on these b–tards?

thomasaur on August 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM

The official position of Mr. Tom Perriello D VA-5.

Tie our hands or we’ll keep stealing.

ted c on August 2, 2010 at 9:12 AM

tede c: Good recall,yup,Liberals in power don’t give a
rats *ss!!:)

canopfor on August 2, 2010 at 9:18 AM

13th district. He will have to resign to leave office because he will NEVER be voted out by those leftist crazies in the bay area.

jbh45 on August 2, 2010 at 9:18 AM

At the end he says that what the woman said made him very uncomfortable. Where was his discomfort when he and his buddies were playing king? I guess it’s safe to assume that the great unwashed figuring it out is his real complaint.

Cindy Munford on August 2, 2010 at 9:19 AM

An appeal to reason and civil discourse is endearing but ultimately irrelevant. I will give you the WH response: Do you have 60 votes? Then STFU.

GTR640 on August 2, 2010 at 9:20 AM

“I am sure am glad you’re here to save it.” The sarcasm – speechless, but in the end no one to blame except us, the voters. We have been complacent too long.

odannyboy on August 2, 2010 at 9:20 AM

Republicans in every district should play this clip and demand an answer from incumbent Democrats who voted for ObamaCare.

Yes, it’s now or never.

petefrt on August 2, 2010 at 9:20 AM

The Democrats’arrogance is proving to be their undoing. They’re beginning to wake up to what they’ve done and they’re avoiding being seen with one another.

kingsjester on August 2, 2010 at 9:21 AM

Wow… just… wow. The fact that he even admitted it shows just how far off the rails we’ve gotten.

crazy_legs on August 2, 2010 at 9:22 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAVTTGkHEeU

DTOM

ted c on August 2, 2010 at 9:16 AM

ted c:)

Coming to a town near you in November!

canopfor on August 2, 2010 at 9:22 AM

In theory, she is right. In actuality, he is right.

Similar to when those cops arrested those people handing out pamphlets at that muslim fair. Though they were doing nothing wrong, the police still had the executive powers to arrest them. What the constitution protects in theory is one thing. The reality is often very different.

keep the change on August 2, 2010 at 9:22 AM

Johnson, Waters, Stark, these people and others are suffering from some sort of dementia and yet they are controlling hundreds of billions of dollars and enacting legislation which affects us all.

Probably not what the Founders had in mind back in the day, mentally incapacitated people operating in the highest seats of government.

Bishop on August 2, 2010 at 9:22 AM

Similar to when those cops arrested those people handing out pamphlets at that muslim fair.

keep the change on August 2, 2010 at 9:22 AM

keep the change: Another good political blast from the past
example,its OnGoing/NeverEnding!!:)

canopfor on August 2, 2010 at 9:24 AM

I’m surprised he didn’t threaten to throw her out of a window.

BrianA on August 2, 2010 at 9:25 AM

Fact is he’s RIGHT!

Now…. how do we STOP them!>>>>>>> ????

golfmann on August 2, 2010 at 9:25 AM

Liberalism exposed; unmasked for all to see. No way can so called Democrats run on a Conservative platform for at least a decade, as these tapes will be run over and over reminding people of the lie.

My sons were raised in an era dominated by Republicans. This is all they knew until now. Everything I warned them about really had little meaning to them, as they had no experience of their own to draw from. Not any more! Liberalism is a very ugly disease.

Keemo on August 2, 2010 at 9:26 AM

Stark is living proof liberalism is a mental disorder. In the latter stages, it can become a danger for those they have been chosen to represent. The serious question is “How do people this intellectually bankrupt get elected to lead?”

volsense on August 2, 2010 at 9:26 AM

Clearly that woman is a racist, crackpot tea bagger fringe element.

bitsy on August 2, 2010 at 9:27 AM

At least Stark has the cajones to call it like he sees it.

The question remains if his constituents agree with him.

maverick muse on August 2, 2010 at 8:57 AM

They keep voting for him, don’t they?

bugsy on August 2, 2010 at 9:27 AM

Amazing. . . “He’s right” . . .

how do we STOP them!>>>>>>> ????

golfmann on August 2, 2010 at 9:25 AM

\

If they are this bold they know they can’t be stopped! Still gotta try.

rebuzz on August 2, 2010 at 9:28 AM

Is it any surprise that he comes from California? Ya know, giving California back to Mexico is looking like a better and better idea with each passing day.

olesparkie on August 2, 2010 at 9:28 AM

What does the ACLU do anyway?

tarpon on August 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Suck up public funding, nothing but leaches.

heshtesh on August 2, 2010 at 9:29 AM

It was out of context! He was about to pivot into a dissertation on strict constructionism and limited government. I could tell by the way he was nodding his head “yes” as she told him “people like you are destroying this country.”

forest on August 2, 2010 at 9:29 AM

refudiation of his statement through the argument of him “missplacing words” or contextual issues in 3…2..1…. Certainly he’s not a reptilian that is in need of draining from the swamp. There’s two other fat cats, er mongrels, blocking the drain pipe already…

ted c on August 2, 2010 at 9:30 AM

Ironic isn’t it? Obama brings slavery back. The long history of the Democratic Party never really changes much does it?

Dollayo on August 2, 2010 at 9:33 AM

The democrats have been trying to shred the Constitution for decades. Pete Stark has the same mind set as Obama and the democrat party. He is not a lone voice, only one of many in the democrat party.

flintstone on August 2, 2010 at 9:35 AM

)/T
====

Rocket strikes in Southern Israel,and Jordan!

canopfor on August 2, 2010 at 9:36 AM

The answer, obviously, is that it’s not a right. They simply call it a right because they want to tap the power of that word. “Right” is the carrot as “racist” is the stick for leftists.

Nobody will be compelled to give anything, in fact the “death panels” will be saying no to your “right” every day.

Dash on August 2, 2010 at 9:37 AM

The thing that keeps going through my head with all the weird wild pronouncements going on these days is that it might be an indicator that the liberal movement believes it has won. What I mean is, they feel no need to hide what they truly believe, they can just blurt out all this insanity and there are no consequences, electoral or otherwise. The pronouncements themselves are almost the lesser point to the fact they think — or MUCH worse, they KNOW — they can get away with them.

WashingtonsWake on August 2, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Drudge has it up in red
========================

SHOCK VIDEO: DEM CONGRESSMAN BRAGS: ‘FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN DO MOST ANYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY’…

canopfor on August 2, 2010 at 9:38 AM

Quit trying to give California back to Mexico. Yeah we have our share of rotten congress critters, but we also have some good ones. Daryl Issa for one.

sandee on August 2, 2010 at 9:41 AM

WashingtonsWake on August 2, 2010 at 9:37 AM

I get that impression, too.

Disturb the Universe on August 2, 2010 at 9:41 AM

Trolls, trolls, where for art thou?

Sharke on August 2, 2010 at 9:42 AM

CAN I VOTE FOR THAT LADY TO REPRESENT ME??

USBB on August 2, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Sharke on August 2, 2010 at 9:42 AM

Unless they can work Sarah Palin is a big stupid quitter into the conversation, they are unlikely to show up.

Cindy Munford on August 2, 2010 at 9:44 AM

I’m just surprised that he didn’t have her mic cut and then have her escorted out by armed police officers for having the “audacity” to question his “authority” and “unequivocal superiority”.

Stark is a true enemy of the USA…

Fuzzlenutter on August 2, 2010 at 9:45 AM

There’s two other fat cats, er mongrels, blocking the drain pipe already…

ted c on August 2, 2010 at 9:30 AM

Awesome imagery that.

Dee2008 on August 2, 2010 at 9:47 AM

Term Limits. Constitutional Amendment. Yes, please.

ted c on August 2, 2010 at 9:48 AM

CAN I VOTE FOR THAT LADY TO REPRESENT ME??

USBB on August 2, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Probably not. People like her usually prefer to do productive wealth-producing work in the private sector. I guess it’s a problem we have because small government folks usually aren’t drawn to serve in government.

forest on August 2, 2010 at 9:48 AM

How long do the Neo-Progressive socialists expect us to follow the rules when they clearly aren’t going to?

Colbyjack on August 2, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Well … I hate to say this – but this guy is right. We’ve ignored the Constitution in this country for, dare I say – well over a hundred years or more – perhaps since the founding. I mean, seriously – almost immediately after the Constitution was ratified in this nation we started making “exceptions” to it for special circumstances. As just one TINY example … Abraham Lincoln overturned Habeus Corpus when he was President and he’s given a complete pass on that today even though the Supreme Court overturned his order and Lincoln ignored it. It was seen as “necessary” for the survival of the Union yet – there was no special clause in the Constitution giving the Chief Executive the power to overturn Constitutional rights in the face of demands to maintain those rights from the other branches of government. In this, Lincoln behaved as a King or emperor. There is no denying this – but do we have a problem with this today?

Uhm … no.

Well, that’s the problem folks – once you allow circumstances like this to occur – they grow, and boy, do they grow!

We have a Constitution in this nation that is only followed CEREMONIOUSLY – when it’s convienient and we pat ourselves on the back for our wonderful adherence to it. But in reality – when the going gets tough – we RATIONALIZE a way out of following and tell us it’s a “special circumstance”.

We have a long road back to 1789.

HondaV65 on August 2, 2010 at 9:51 AM

The Future is Uncertain the Constitution is not … We The people need to make them understand that – if this election cycle doesn’t do the trick – what’s next – we all go to Washington and throw the Bums out .. Sounds good to me ..

wheels on August 2, 2010 at 9:53 AM

If you have a Right
To the Service I Provide,
I must be your Slave.

Haiku Guy on August 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM

STARK

RAVING

MAD

Del Dolemonte on August 2, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Trolls, trolls, where for art thou?

Sharke on August 2, 2010 at 9:42 AM

Still in bed?

Del Dolemonte on August 2, 2010 at 9:56 AM

We don’t need no stink n Constitution…

So Basically when this azz hat took the oath of office to preserve and defend the Constitution… he was take n an oath that has no meaning.

Wonder why we R so Screwed?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

roflmao

donabernathy on August 2, 2010 at 10:01 AM

“Constitution!!?? We don’t need no stinkin constitution”

veni vidi vici on August 2, 2010 at 10:02 AM

All the time Congress was crippling our nation’s economy and world standing in my mind there was always the thought that there were some there who would say ENOUGH! They would check the crazies destroying us. Stark has obliterated that thought from my head and shamed me for ever believing it possible. I vow to work hard as I can to end this craziness.

Herb on August 2, 2010 at 10:02 AM

I told you, democracy stinks! (Your system may differ from the norm, but the outcome is the same).

OldEnglish on August 2, 2010 at 10:06 AM

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