Quotes of the day

posted at 10:20 pm on July 30, 2010 by Allahpundit

“In the name of Christ, I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control,” the author wrote Wednesday on her Facebook page. “In the name of … Christ, I quit Christianity and being Christian. Amen.”…

Rice wrote, “For those who care, and I understand if you don’t: Today I quit being a Christian … It’s simply impossible for me to ‘belong’ to this quarrelsome, hostile, disputatious, and deservedly infamous group. For ten years, I’ve tried. I’ve failed. I’m an outsider. My conscience will allow nothing else.”

***
Rice’s angry frustration with what she (and, let’s face it, many others) perceive to be a sort of Institution of No is interesting. She refuses to be “anti-gay,” but the church teaches that indeed we must not be anti-gay, that homosexual inclinations are not sinful in themselves, but that all are called to chastity, whether gay or straight…

Anne Rice wants to do the Life-in-Christ on her own, while saying “Yes” to the worldly world and its values. She seems not to realize that far from being an Institution of No, the church is a giant and eternal urging toward “Yes,”, that being a “yes” toward God–whose ways are not our ways, and who draws all to Himself, in the fullness of time–rather than a “yes” to ourselves.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2 3

It (Hot Air) totally freaked out last night and went down.

Dire Straits on July 30, 2010 at 11:24 PM

I remember. Lots of posts were wiped out.

sharrukin on July 30, 2010 at 11:27 PM

Chastity and celibacy are not the same thing. Married people are called to be chaste as well. It’s amazing to watch a conversation where the participants argue points they cannot even define.

Haunches on July 30, 2010 at 11:19 PM

Unless you’re gay and catholic, in which case chastity and celibacy do, in fact, mean the same thing.

RightOFLeft on July 30, 2010 at 11:28 PM

She might want to try these guys….Christianlite. You can be a “Christian”, worship wordly things, AND fell good about yourself all at the same time!!!!!

ramrants on July 30, 2010 at 11:31 PM

I guess Anne Rice will now have time to work on the Mosque they are building at Ground Zero.

Dire Straits on July 30, 2010 at 11:34 PM

I heart you, Jelly Toast.

I admire much about the Anchoress, but she quotes “the church” instead of the Bible, which most definitively identifies homosexual inclinations as sinful. Perhaps Anne Rice is one of those “Christians” who signed up for the social gospel. When she finally read the real Gospel, she may well have thought, “That’s not the God I know.”

Well, God didn’t know her, either.

I would have said that it is not the mandate of Christians to be anti-gay or anti-any sinner. According to the real Gospel, we are all sinners and all sin can be forgiven, except for the sin of not accepting the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Terrie on July 30, 2010 at 11:34 PM

“In the name of Christ, I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control,” the author wrote Wednesday on her Facebook page. “In the name of … Christ, I quit Christianity and being Christian. Amen.”…

Sorry to hear that, Anne Rice.

But for what it’s worth, His name isn’t ‘Christ’. It’s Jesus.

And he is capable of separating the homosexual from homosexuallity. He loves the person, but hates that which separates the person from him. If you were surrounded by Christians who spent more time “judging” than “ministering”, then I can understand you’re disgust with that particular group. But you seem to be blaming this on Christianity in general. If you’re trying to claim that a real, loving God would never allow negative consequences to befall people who are doing what ‘just feels right’ to them, then I would question whether you ever really knew Jesus to begin with. He spent a lot of effort (documented in the four gospels) trying to separate people from behavior that ‘just felt right’ to them. Some turned; some didn’t.

Either way, Jesus is still Lord.

He’s still ‘The One with the Final Say’.

And He is still reaching out to all persons with more love than all of us put together can begin to grasp.

listens2glenn on July 30, 2010 at 11:37 PM

Yeah, that’s what I tell all my Christian scholar friends when they start issuing their fatwas, and helping the believers to load their vests.

Gang-of-One on July 30, 2010 at 11:11 PM

Are you telling me that your Christian scholar friends don’t believe that the Jews killed Jesus? but that’s in the Bible. Let me just just randomly pick from one of the Gospels. Mark 15:12 -

“What shall I do then, with the one you call the king of the Jews?” Pilate ask them.
“Crucify him!” they shout.

As far as I know, they story is the same in the other books. Without the treacheries of the Jews, the cumulative, most important event in the Christianity simply could not have happened. Antisemitism is integral to the faith. One cannot be a Christian without harboring that animosity that’s a fundamental part of the belief system.

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

OT scary: Snooki arrested just hours after slamming Obama

faraway on July 30, 2010 at 11:42 PM

OT scary: Snooki arrested just hours after slamming Obama

faraway on July 30, 2010 at 11:42 PM

Who is that? I followed the link and looked up her stats in Wikipedia and I still don’t know who she is.

Electrongod on July 30, 2010 at 11:47 PM

Antisemitism is integral to the faith. One cannot be a Christian without harboring that animosity that’s a fundamental part of the belief system.

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

We see that the money you spent on religious studies was a good investment.
. ,.-‘”. . . . . . . . . .“~.,
. . . . . . . .. . . . . .,.-”. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .“-.,
. . . . .. . . . . . ..,/. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ”:,
. . . . . . . .. .,?. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\,
. . . . . . . . . /. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,}
. . . . . . . . ./. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:`^`.}
. . . . . . . ./. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:”. . . ./
. . . . . . .?. . . __. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :`. . . ./
. . . . . . . /__.(. . .“~-,_. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:`. . . .. ./
. . . . . . /(_. . ”~,_. . . ..“~,_. . . . . . . . . .,:`. . . . _/
. . . .. .{.._$;_. . .”=,_. . . .“-,_. . . ,.-~-,}, .~”; /. .. .}
. . .. . .((. . .*~_. . . .”=-._. . .“;,,./`. . /” . . . ./. .. ../
. . . .. . .\`~,. . ..“~.,. . . . . . . . . ..`. . .}. . . . . . ../
. . . . . .(. ..`=-,,. . . .`. . . . . . . . . . . ..(. . . ;_,,-”
. . . . . ../.`~,. . ..`-.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..\. . /\
. . . . . . \`~.*-,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..|,./…..\,__
,,_. . . . . }.>-._\. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|. . . . . . ..`=~-,
. .. `=~-,_\_. . . `\,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\
. . . . . . . . . .`=~-,,.\,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . `:,, . . . . . . . . . . . . . `\. . . . . . ..__
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .`=-,. . . . . . . . . .,%`>–

thomasaur on July 30, 2010 at 11:47 PM

“… not forsaking our own assembling together, as the custom of some is, but exhorting one another, and so much the more, as ye see the day drawing nigh.” – HEB. 10:25

John 13:34-35

“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

1 John 4:20; “If anyone says, “I love God,” yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.”

Look, I know that a lot of people in the church can be a pain in the butt, Jesus knows this too, since it was the religious people of the day He had the most trouble with. I mean, you now, they even ended up crucifying Him. But, God is God. If you think somehow you are going to diss church and still get to heaven, please God by just being a little church all unto yourself, you’re really off there. Ain’t happening.

JellyToast on July 30, 2010 at 11:48 PM

thomasaur on July 30, 2010 at 11:47 PM

That is cool! I don’t know how you did that but it is cool! Nice job!

JellyToast on July 30, 2010 at 11:48 PM

thomasaur on July 30, 2010 at 11:47 PM

How did you get that cool ‘image’ on your post?

listens2glenn on July 30, 2010 at 11:50 PM

Thanks to Allah, who has no dog in the hunt, for recognizing a fine apologist like the Anchoress.

Pavel on July 30, 2010 at 11:51 PM

That is cool! I don’t know how you did that but it is cool! Nice job!

JellyToast on July 30, 2010 at 11:48 PM

I poached it from another poster here at HA and saved it. I break it out in special cases.

thomasaur on July 30, 2010 at 11:52 PM

Without the treacheries of the Jews, the cumulative, most important event in the Christianity simply could not have happened. Antisemitism is integral to the faith. One cannot be a Christian without harboring that animosity that’s a fundamental part of the belief system.

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

Define antisemitism.

MeatHeadinCA on July 30, 2010 at 11:52 PM

Christians hate either gays or Muslims. Perhaps such tendency is common to all religions or ideologies, but Christianity does exhibit it in the most obvious way.

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 10:52 PM

Really! Want to compare historical body counts?

ddrintn on July 30, 2010 at 11:54 PM

How did you get that cool ‘image’ on your post?

listens2glenn on July 30, 2010 at 11:50 PM

I cut and pasted it into a documnt folder for special cases.

thomasaur on July 30, 2010 at 11:54 PM

s/b document

thomasaur on July 30, 2010 at 11:55 PM

MeatHeadinCA on July 30, 2010 at 11:52 PM

Thank Goodness you are here.. So far the Catholics and the Jews have been made a cult..Read and you will see what I mean.

Dire Straits on July 30, 2010 at 11:55 PM

Thank Goodness you are here.. So far the Catholics and the Jews have been made a cult..Read and you will see what I mean.

Dire Straits on July 30, 2010 at 11:55 PM

*hmmm

Still trying to figure out who Anne Rice is. Is it worth googling?

MeatHeadinCA on July 30, 2010 at 11:57 PM

Without the treacheries of the Jews, the cumulative, most important event in the Christianity simply could not have happened. Antisemitism is integral to the faith. One cannot be a Christian without harboring that animosity that’s a fundamental part of the belief system.

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

I was raised Jewish.
What you’re saying is b*** s***!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 30, 2010 at 11:59 PM

Are you telling me that your Christian scholar friends don’t believe that the Jews killed Jesus? but that’s in the Bible. Let me just just randomly pick from one of the Gospels. Mark 15:12 -

“What shall I do then, with the one you call the king of the Jews?” Pilate ask them.
“Crucify him!” they shout.

As far as I know, they story is the same in the other books. Without the treacheries of the Jews, the cumulative, most important event in the Christianity simply could not have happened. Antisemitism is integral to the faith. One cannot be a Christian without harboring that animosity that’s a fundamental part of the belief system.

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

Romans were involved too, you know. It was that, as Northrop Frye once put it, “Jesus was the one individual in history that no human society could tolerate”.

ddrintn on July 30, 2010 at 11:59 PM

If you think somehow you are going to diss church and still get to heaven, please God by just being a little church all unto yourself, you’re really off there. Ain’t happening.

JellyToast on July 30, 2010 at 11:48 PM

Okay, her faith in Jesus isn’t enough, and she needs people. Which church does it need to be?

exception on July 30, 2010 at 11:59 PM

MeatHeadinCA on July 30, 2010 at 11:57 PM

Writer of novels..Interview with a Vampire was the novel that got her famous because of Movie (mid 90′s) by same name that starred Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:00 AM

Still trying to figure out who Anne Rice is. Is it worth googling?

MeatHeadinCA on July 30, 2010 at 11:57 PM

Not so much

thomasaur on July 31, 2010 at 12:00 AM

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

Don’t feed the trolls, folks. Silence punishes malice.

Pavel on July 31, 2010 at 12:01 AM

Anne Rice wrote lots of vampire books. About 10 years ago she became a Catholic.

I’ve never read her–just heard about her.

INC on July 31, 2010 at 12:02 AM

Not so much

thomasaur on July 31, 2010 at 12:00 AM

Agree.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:02 AM

Romans were involved too, you know. It was that, as Northrop Frye once put it, “Jesus was the one individual in history that no human society could tolerate”.

ddrintn on July 30, 2010 at 11:59 PM

The only people who followed him in significant numbers while alive were Jews.

exception on July 31, 2010 at 12:02 AM

Writer of novels..Interview with a Vampire was the novel that got her famous because of Movie (mid 90’s) by same name that starred Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:00 AM

Hmmm… name sounded familiar, but I didn’t think she was involved in Hollywood.

Not so much

thomasaur on July 31, 2010 at 12:00 AM

So why is this QOTD?

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM

She no longer likes Jesus.

thomasaur on July 31, 2010 at 12:04 AM

So why is this QOTD?

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM

I guess House ethics is boring and this will stir the pot.

INC on July 31, 2010 at 12:06 AM

I guess House ethics is boring and this will stir the pot.

INC on July 31, 2010 at 12:06 AM

Hey… I think Rangel is a joke… ;-)

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:07 AM

Hey… I think Rangel is a joke… ;-)

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:07 AM

I think Rangel is now enjoying himself. He’s been around so long he probably knows where all the bodies are buried with many other Dem House members and they don’t dare come down too hard on him.

INC on July 31, 2010 at 12:10 AM

Obama is a babe in arms in politics compared to Rangel.

INC on July 31, 2010 at 12:10 AM

She seems not to realize that far from being an Institution of No, the church is a giant and eternal urging toward “Yes,”, that being a “yes” toward God–whose ways are not our ways, and who draws all to Himself, in the fullness of time–rather than a “yes” to ourselves.

Personally I’m shocked that AP ended his article with this. I thought you were athiest, AP. You’ve quoted the Gospel in a nutshell right here! I no longer care what you may say, AP, I’ll know! You’re Christian! C’mon, AP admit it…we got ya dead to rights! Thanks for letting the rest of us Christians know! LOL!!! :)

Vntnrse on July 31, 2010 at 12:12 AM

I think Rangel is now enjoying himself. He’s been around so long he probably knows where all the bodies are buried with many other Dem House members and they don’t dare come down too hard on him.

INC on July 31, 2010 at 12:10 AM

Rangel is a perfect example of why House Reps should have term limits…

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:12 AM

Hey… I think Rangel is a joke… ;-)

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:07 AM

What about Maxine Waters. :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:13 AM

Rangel is a perfect example of why House Reps should have term limits…

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:12 AM

True.

What about Maxine Waters. :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:13 AM

I doubt Maxine has the pull that Rangel does. But she can make a lot of noise trying to pull down the House. (pardon the pun).

INC on July 31, 2010 at 12:14 AM

Rice’s core problem is being self-centered which is contradictory to seeking faith in anything for guidance. Not uncommon for the Hollywood types unable to subjugate their ego to something of higher power, sacrifice and longevity than their ever-important selves.

What Rice truly needs is what Flip Wilson called “The Church of What’s Happenin’ Now”. So stylish, so transient, so pointless Rice would probably find it enlightening, rewarding and most importantly: convenient.

viking01 on July 31, 2010 at 12:14 AM

What about Maxine Waters. :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:13 AM

I’m convinced she hands out drugs to her colleagues … just to get through the mind numbing tyranny.

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:15 AM

Rice has a point. Christianity as a religion does strive on antagonism towards other groups. For centuries it’s fueled by antisemitism. Now that that’s no longer socially acceptable, as least in American, Christians hate either gays or Muslims. Perhaps such tendency is common to all religions or ideologies, but Christianity does exhibit it in the most obvious way.

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 10:52 PM

No, Christianity is not fueled by antisemitism nor do Christians hate gays, Muslims or others.

Stating that God has a standard of morality and right and wrong, and that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God is not hating people.

I would guess that Rice thought she could set her own standards and her own ideas rather than acknowledging that Jesus is Lord.

INC on July 31, 2010 at 12:17 AM

Great. Another aging baby boomer is whining about the Catholic Church. And she confuses the Catholic Church, a human institution, with Christianity, a belief system. That is a pretty elementary mistake for a fancy writer to make.

Anne, honey, there are churches that don’t frown on artificial birth control and are not as dogmatic on homosexuality.

But I guess quietly finding a church, even a (gasp!)Protestant one, that is more aligned to your personal preferences isn’t as much fun as writing a melodramatic mini-play where your almighty self stars in the leading role.

Two other points. It was all part of the plan for the Jews to reject Christ. Jesus was sent to minister to the believing Jews (a minority) and the Gentiles. The prophecies call for the Jews to be reconciled to Christ in the end times.

Second point. It is REALLY hard to find a scriptural basis to support the gay agenda. Paul, God’s chosen Apostle, writes pretty clearly in Romans that homosexuality follows idolatry and that it is a sin. This isn’t just some obscure passage in Leviticus.

And even though all of the major monotheistic religions condemn homosexuality, Christians seem to attract special scorn for expressing this view.
Tw

johnboy on July 31, 2010 at 12:20 AM

This was her quote going into religion

In the moment of surrender, I let go of all the theological or social questions which had kept me from [God] for countless years. I simply let them go. There was the sense, profound and wordless, that if He knew everything I did not have to know everything, and that, in seeking to know everything, I’d been, all of my life, missing the entire point. No social paradox, no historic disaster, no hideous record of injustice or misery should keep me from Him. No question of Scriptural integrity, no torment over the fate of this or that atheist or gay friend, no worry for those condemned and ostracized by my church or any other church should stand between me and Him. The reason? It was magnificently simple: He knew how or why everything happened; He knew the disposition of every single soul. He wasn’t going to let anything happen by accident! Nobody was going to go to Hell by mistake. [15

Seems she is a bit of a quitter, I assume she must have thought everything from that moment forward was just going to be easy.

bluemarlin on July 31, 2010 at 12:21 AM

bluemarlin on July 31, 2010 at 12:21 AM

I thought the Anchoress pretty much nails Anne.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:27 AM

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:15 AM

CBC is making a fool of themselves and are revealing their true colors (pardon the pun). :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:28 AM

Antisemitism is integral to the faith. One cannot be a Christian without harboring that animosity that’s a fundamental part of the belief system.

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

I believe the farther back one looks your statement is true–even up to and after the Holocaust.

However, if my ex-Catholic non-believer’s memory serves me right, in the 60s the Catholic church, starting with The Second Vatican council, began decrying antisemitism and continues to do so today.

So no, not one Christian I personally know is a Jew hater.
Your statement that one can not be a Christian without harboring animosity for Jews is wrong.

Now, why don’t you quote me some verses on this animosity thing from the Koran?

Gang-of-One on July 31, 2010 at 12:31 AM

RED ALERT: Check out the headlines…! Report: Bristol breaks engagement with Levi? This should get interesting.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:32 AM

simply……….she wants that CELEBRITY CHRISTIANITY.

You know where the pole stripping Pop songtress of the moment gets up at the awards show with all her assets hanging out on display and says something like this:

“I’d like to Thank God for giving me this opportunity (to slut for you fools) to sing and use this gift (grab a poh, mmmm, mmmm, grab a poh, feel it right, lemme go, here we go….etc. etc.).”

That’s the kind of “group” that Annie wants to be part of and doesn’t want any of the rules and “rigidity”. We see it in Hollywood all the time……YAWN.

Good luck Anne.

PappyD61 on July 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM

RED ALERT: Check out the headlines…! Report: Bristol breaks engagement with Levi? This should get interesting.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:32 AM

I saw something like that on the Huffington Post today…

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:34 AM

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:34 AM

The Palinistas will be spinning this you can bet. :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:36 AM

And I always thought that the Romans killed Jesus…

Here it turns out to be those wascally Jooos.

trigon on July 31, 2010 at 12:39 AM

However, if my ex-Catholic non-believer’s memory serves me right, in the 60s the Catholic church, starting with The Second Vatican council, began decrying antisemitism and continues to do so today.

So no, not one Christian I personally know is a Jew hater.
Your statement that one can not be a Christian without harboring animosity for Jews is wrong.

Now, why don’t you quote me some verses on this animosity thing from the Koran?

Gang-of-One on July 31, 2010 at 12:31 AM

One of the reasons why I joined the Church-okay, God led me to Her-is because it’s truer to its Jewish roots.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 31, 2010 at 12:39 AM

I thought the Anchoress pretty much nails Anne.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:27 AM

Yes, as I go back and read it, I came into this way late and should have clicked on her link as well. I have not read all the posts , though I can well imagine where this thread has gone. I think the base argument here is really not Religion failing her or anyone, it seems more like Anne failing Anne. She made a choice

“In the moment of surrender, I let go of all the theological or social questions which had kept me from [God] for countless years. I simply let them go.”

She did not live up to it, ok fine, no reason to bash something you failed at doing. They were her words after all.

bluemarlin on July 31, 2010 at 12:40 AM

I’ve read Anne Rice’s / Roquelaure’s hard porn novels -
The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty (1983)
Beauty’s Punishment (1984)
Beauty’s Release (1985)

Anne Rice has no position to speak from re piety and should just stuff a ball gag in her mouth.

rayra on July 31, 2010 at 12:40 AM

The Palinistas will be spinning this you can bet. :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:36 AM

Heh. I’m out. Later.

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:42 AM

bluemarlin on July 31, 2010 at 12:40 AM

Nice post. :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:42 AM

Heh. I’m out. Later.

MeatHeadinCA on July 31, 2010 at 12:42 AM

Later friend. :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:43 AM

rayra on July 31, 2010 at 12:40 AM

Anne Rice did porn horror novels??? ..I was not a fan although I went to see Interview with a Vampire..which was not bad IMHO but I never knew she did horror porn?

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:46 AM

Anne Rice did porn horror novels??? ..I was not a fan although I went to see Interview with a Vampire..which was not bad IMHO but I never knew she did horror porn?

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:46 AM

They like to dress it up some and call it Gothic, Erotic and apparently she was very, very, successfull at it.

bluemarlin on July 31, 2010 at 12:51 AM

So IOW, Anne Rice thought up a sequel to her gay vampires that will rival the current crop of gay vampires? And her church people didn’t like it?

di butler on July 31, 2010 at 12:51 AM

One of the reasons why I joined the Church-okay, God led me to Her-is because it’s truer to its Jewish roots.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 31, 2010 at 12:39 AM

Sincerely, good for you and the Church, you annoyinglittletwerp! :)

Gang-of-One on July 31, 2010 at 12:52 AM

Translation: I like that idea of Christianity, but it’s all the rules and regulations that get me. Why can’t I just claim I’m following Christ but ignoring all the rules? Why can’t I just say everything is okay and moral? Gosh, this is hard. I quit!

TheBlueSite on July 31, 2010 at 12:55 AM

They like to dress it up some and call it Gothic, Erotic and apparently she was very, very, successfull at it.

bluemarlin on July 31, 2010 at 12:51 AM

I guess I was clueless to this..Had some friends that were into her novels but as you can tell I have not read any of her novels.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:56 AM

Without the treacheries of the Jews, the cumulative, most important event in the Christianity simply could not have happened. Antisemitism is integral to the faith. One cannot be a Christian without harboring that animosity that’s a fundamental part of the belief system.

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

That’s OK, incoherent prejudice is a necessary component of any religion that lasts longer than five minutes.

Rice got tired of the lunacy, its a free country, it happens to everybody sometime.

Speakup on July 31, 2010 at 12:57 AM

Translation: I like that idea of Christianity, but it’s all the rules and regulations that get me. Why can’t I just claim I’m following Christ but ignoring all the rules? Why can’t I just say everything is okay and moral? Gosh, this is hard. I quit!

TheBlueSite on July 31, 2010 at 12:55 AM

Well, she should have just followed Botox Nancy`s lead!

bluemarlin on July 31, 2010 at 1:00 AM

I guess I was clueless to this..Had some friends that were into her novels but as you can tell I have not read any of her novels.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 12:56 AM

I did not know either I had to go to Wikipedia. I love to read I just thankfully did not ever pick up her Novels. Speaking of all Vampires, what is with all the Vampire themes lately, it is everywhere now?

bluemarlin on July 31, 2010 at 1:02 AM

The Vampire Lestat was her best book.

John the Libertarian on July 31, 2010 at 1:05 AM

Antisemitism is integral to the faith. One cannot be a Christian without harboring that animosity that’s a fundamental part of the belief system.

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

You’re clueless, unfortunately.

While *some* specific Jews certainly wanted Jesus dead (and helped that process along), *most* Jews certainly didn’t.

Virtually 100% of the earliest Christians *were* Jews.

The apostles (whose words you grossly mischaracterize) *were* Jews.

Jesus’s mother *was* a Jew.

Etc, etc.

Antisemitism is categorically *not* integral to the Christian faith; it’s exceedingly silly to suggest such a thing.

Midas on July 31, 2010 at 1:09 AM

bluemarlin on July 31, 2010 at 1:02 AM

I will assume you are talking of the Twilight Series.. I am not a fan…Barnabas Collins in Dark Shadows was enough for me as a kid. :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 1:11 AM

The Vampire Lestat was her best book.

John the Libertarian on July 31, 2010 at 1:05 AM

Better than Interview with a Vampire?..Remember I only saw the movie and did not read the book.

PS..Good to see you. :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 1:13 AM

New book coming out?

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2010 at 1:14 AM

…Barnabas Collins in Dark Shadows was enough for me as a kid. :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 1:11 AM

Gosh, I wish I could pretend I have no idea who you are talking about.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2010 at 1:16 AM

I will assume you are talking of the Twilight Series.. I am not a fan…Barnabas Collins in Dark Shadows was enough for me as a kid. :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 1:11 AM

Not just Twilight, HBO has True Blood, I think there are a couple of TV series as well. Just seems Vampires themes are everywhere. Maybe Twilight started it back up, it was really just one of those hmmmm things.

bluemarlin on July 31, 2010 at 1:21 AM

New book coming out?

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2010 at 1:14 AM

A very likely scenario.

bluemarlin on July 31, 2010 at 1:22 AM

Gosh, I wish I could pretend I have no idea who you are talking about.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2010 at 1:16 AM

My gang never missed it. My Mother would even let us watch it before doing homework each day!..It was like Saturday morning cartoons (The Pink Panther). :)

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 1:25 AM

bluemarlin on July 31, 2010 at 1:21 AM

I’m clueless myself to an answer.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 1:27 AM

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 1:25 AM

I’m a Loony Toons person myself. The guy the played the werewolf is the only one I remember to have a career after Dark Shadows. Must not have been much of one since I can’t remember his name.

Why does this Ms. Rice seem to think anyone is interested in her many conversions? Seems a tad self absorbed.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2010 at 1:33 AM

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 1:13 AM

Good to be back ;)

Vampire Lestat to Interview is like T2 was to Terminator, a much better second installment. Rice explores what it means to be immortal when going through huge societal upheavals, such as when Church-oriented vampires went through the Enlightenment era, or when Enlightenment-era vampires went through the Romanticists and Victorian Age… Rice did a great job describing the angst of going through these sociological upheavals, which I found fascinating.

John the Libertarian on July 31, 2010 at 1:37 AM

Another unhappy middle aged women searching for happiness. Probably will try Zen or Scientology next. These people spend their whole life looking for nirvana or an utopia but never find it.

Hummer53 on July 31, 2010 at 1:41 AM

Why does this Ms. Rice seem to think anyone is interested in her many conversions? Seems a tad self absorbed.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2010 at 1:33 AM

I think you are correct.

PS..Loony Toons were great and I for one hate our children of today do not watch them.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 1:42 AM

Barack Hussein Obama is an outlaw occupying the oval office who is waging jihad against America’s Constitution, American states and the American people. He has not taken a hiatus and we are talking about this Anne Rice crap? We should be ashamed of ourselves.

Luka on July 31, 2010 at 1:43 AM

Anne Rice quits Christianity. Well, Christ and his message of redemption cannot quit on her (us). Still, I can sympathize. It’s a strange thing when people explicitly commanded, “Do not judge.”, go around being oh so judgemental and condemning the behavior of others.

But that’s the nature of our beast, to self-promote as best we can, often enough by effecting the demotion of others. But that has nothting to do with Christ, whether or not professing to Christianity.

exdeadhead on July 31, 2010 at 1:45 AM

Another unhappy middle aged women searching for happiness. Probably will try Zen or Scientology next. These people spend their whole life looking for nirvana or an utopia but never find it.

Hummer53 on July 31, 2010 at 1:41 AM

I hear, in another top story, that Levi may be available again. How much money does Anne Rice have?

Luka on July 31, 2010 at 1:46 AM

Hummer53 on July 31, 2010 at 1:41 AM

Nah, not really. Read her Vampire Lestat book. She’s an extremely talented writer, so I cut her a lot of slack.

John the Libertarian on July 31, 2010 at 1:46 AM

John the Libertarian on July 31, 2010 at 1:37 AM

Thank you..I had some friends who wanted to make a pilgramage to New Orleans to go on one of her Midnight tours..after futher research when I found out tour dealt with graveyard at midnight..I politely cancelled.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 1:49 AM

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 1:49 AM

That’s just creepy. I’d have opt’d out, too.

John the Libertarian on July 31, 2010 at 1:51 AM

One cannot be a Christian without harboring that animosity that’s a fundamental part of the belief system.

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

Completely incorrect.
No Christian “harbors the animosity” that the Jews killed Jesus.
We all killed Jesus, because in a mystical way, we were all present in Jerusalem and a part of the crowd, composed of Jews, Romans and non-believers, that clamored for Christ’s death because we were and are all sinners.
No Christian that I know of has blamed the death of Christ on the Jews.
Jesus was a Jew and there is a recognition, even in the New Testament after Jesus came, that the Jews are always and forever God’s Chosen people with whom He has a special relationship.

Jenfidel on July 31, 2010 at 1:51 AM

all are called to chastity

No thanks. See ya.

DarkCurrent on July 31, 2010 at 1:52 AM

Why does this Ms. Rice seem to think anyone is interested in her many conversions? Seems a tad self absorbed.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2010 at 1:33 AM

It’s her facebook page; it’s what they’re for.

exception on July 31, 2010 at 1:52 AM

Rice has a point. Christianity as a religion does strive on antagonism towards other groups. For centuries it’s fueled by antisemitism. Now that that’s no longer socially acceptable, as least in American, Christians hate either gays or Muslims. Perhaps such tendency is common to all religions or ideologies, but Christianity does exhibit it in the most obvious way.

year_of_the_dingo on July 30, 2010 at 10:52 PM

Christians pray for gays and Muslims and anyone else, including themselves and other Christians, and urge them to turn away from idolatry and perversion and debauchery for they lead to the pit of Hell. If that offends then so what. Mostly it offends because folks know they are doing something morally wrong and do not like someone calling them on it. So the holier-than-thou argument comes out. Christians know that all, including themselves, sin and fall short of the glory of God and call for repentance and changes in lifestyle for the sake of the sinner’s soul. Those that do urge repentance out of a sense of moral superiority will be judged as they judge; this is biblical.

Many will be called. Few will be chosen.

She seems not to realize that far from being an Institution of No, the church is a giant and eternal urging toward “Yes,”, that being a “yes” toward God–whose ways are not our ways, and who draws all to Himself, in the fullness of time–rather than a “yes” to ourselves.

Personally I’m shocked that AP ended his article with this. I thought you were athiest, AP. You’ve quoted the Gospel in a nutshell right here! I no longer care what you may say, AP, I’ll know! You’re Christian! C’mon, AP admit it…we got ya dead to rights! Thanks for letting the rest of us Christians know! LOL!!! :)

Vntnrse on July 31, 2010 at 12:12 AM

The seed is sprouting!!!!

AP: Read Luke 15: 4-7 and own it! God believes in you!

Bubba Redneck on July 31, 2010 at 1:55 AM

J

enfidel on July 31, 2010 at 1:51 AM

Woah! Jenfidel coming on strong!

Love it.

Didn’t take the bait, but now I feel I must. Jesus was a good Jewish boy. As was Peter. As was Paul.

Can’t be the Messiah if you don’t have a Messianic prophecy, now can you?

Israel was dealing with a horrible occupation by the Romans at a time in which there were five dozen cults all claiming that they had witnessed the Messiah. So can you blame them for wanting to suppress yet another cult who threatened to undermine Jewish rule over Jerusalem?

John the Libertarian on July 31, 2010 at 1:56 AM

Vampire Lestat to Interview is like T2 was to Terminator, a much better second installment.

John the Libertarian on July 31, 2010 at 1:37 AM

Or maybe more like Aliens was to Alien.

Interview was much more personal and written several years earlier as part of her grief of the death of her 4 year old daughter.

exception on July 31, 2010 at 1:56 AM

exception on July 31, 2010 at 1:56 AM

Ahh, another Cameron fan over the brilliance that was Ridley Scott. I still like Alien better!

I did not know about Rice’s loss. That resonates big time. I still think Lestat was a better book, but that’s just my personal preference.

I understand that Melville wrote Moby Dick after the brain-jerking traumatic loss of his child.

John the Libertarian on July 31, 2010 at 2:01 AM

John the Libertarian on July 31, 2010 at 2:01 AM

I don’t mean better as much as very different works in the same world.

The prologue alone of Lestat was worth the price of the book as a vision of the modern world.

exception on July 31, 2010 at 2:07 AM

Rice might have sought insight by reading St. Augustine’s The City of God, finished in the early 5th Century – but there’s no sex in it, so it probably couldn’t hold her attention. From the sound of her rebuttal, it appears The Anchoress may have read it.
`
`
Rice hasn’t “tried for ten years” at all. By what she writes, she NEVER “got it” in the first place. Pity, although no doubt she will sell more books working for the other side.

Adjoran on July 31, 2010 at 2:08 AM

PS..Loony Toons were great and I for one hate our children of today do not watch them.

Dire Straits on July 31, 2010 at 1:42 AM

My kids (all under 10 yrs) do watch them, thanks to the magic of dvd Loony Tunes collections. Except I never got to watch them while traveling in the van on long trips to Grandma’s house.

rihar on July 31, 2010 at 2:16 AM

Comment pages: 1 2 3