Did the government cause the Gulf spill?

posted at 9:30 am on July 30, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

The generally accepted view of the Deepwater Horizon disaster has focused on the blowout preventer and the non-standard procedures BP conducted just before the explosion and fire.  However, most of the damage and the main source of the spill came from the collapse and sinking of the DH platform rather than the initial explosion.  A new report by the Center for Public Integrity, based on testimony from people on scene and Coast Guard logs, contains evidence that the platform sunk because of a botched response from the Coast Guard, which failed to coordinate firefighting efforts and to get the proper resources to fight the fire:

The Coast Guard has gathered evidence it failed to follow its own firefighting policy during the Deepwater Horizon disaster and is investigating whether the chaotic spraying of tons of salt water by private boats contributed to sinking the ill-fated oil rig, according to interviews and documents.

Coast Guard officials told the Center for Public Integrity that the service does not have the expertise to fight an oil rig fire and that its response to the April 20 explosion may have broken the service’s own rules by failing to ensure a firefighting expert supervised the half-dozen private boats that answered the Deepwater Horizon’s distress call to fight the blaze.

An official maritime investigation led by Coast Guard Capt. Hung M. Nguyen in New Orleans is examining whether the salt water that was sprayed across the burning platform overran the ballast system that kept the rig upright, changing its weight distribution, and causing it to list.

Ocean rigs are massive, tall structures — usually several stories high — that float on the water.  The rig can be lowered or raised by adjusting air and sea water contained in its ballast tanks.  These tanks have seals that were likely damaged by the fire blazing on the rig, which would have allowed the massive amounts of sea water sprayed on the rig to fight the fire to enter the tanks and seriously disturb the rig’s center of gravity.

The main source of the spill was not the blowout preventer, but the riser pipe to the rig.  When the rig collapsed and sank a few days after the blowout, the pipe tore open and began pouring tens of thousands of barrels of oil each day into the Gulf of Mexico.  Had the rig been salvaged, it’s likely that most of the spill would never have occurred.

The Coast Guard is not supposed to participate in firefighting, but instead assign an expert to coordinate the private firefighting efforts of the rig operator and its contractors.  The Coast Guard failed to do so, and the result was an uncoordinated, “general response” effort that mainly relied on salt water to extinguish the fires.  That is not the most effective way to fight rig fires; the best way is to use foam, which apparently wasn’t on hand.  An expert would have known this, but as CPI’s report of the testimony shows, none was assigned:

Kevin Robb, a civilian Coast Guard search and rescue specialist who acted as the first watch commander the night of the accident, testified that there was no attempt by the Coast Guard Command Center in New Orleans to designate a fire marshal to take charge.

“Did you, sir, make any efforts on that first night when you responded to the Command Center to identify a certified fire marshal to oversee the firefighting efforts?” Robb was asked at the hearing on May 11, according to a transcript reviewed by the Center.

“No, sir, I did not,” he answered.

“Are you aware of anyone else at the Coast Guard Command Center that made such an effort?

“No, sir, not to my knowledge.”

“Do you know, if at any point, over the next several days there was ever any designation of an authority, a governmental authority to oversee or coordinate the firefighting effort for this rig?” Robb was asked.

“No, sir, I don’t,” replied Robb.

Rob Bluey notes that the White House has been quiet about this, and has a few ideas why:

These new details raise serious questions for the White House, which has repeatedly pinned the blame on BP. If it turns out the Coast Guard is at fault — either because it didn’t follow proper procedures or couldn’t respond adequately because of a lack of resources — the public has a right to know why we’re just now learning this information 100 days after the disaster began.

The crippling budget cuts President Obama proposed for the Coast Guard also deserve a closer examination. Obama’s spending plan reduced the blue water fleet by a full one-third, slashed 1,000 personnel, five cutters, and several aircraft, including helicopters. According to the Center for Public Integrity, the Coast Guard updated its official maritime rescue manual — advising against firefighting aboard a rig — just seven months before the Deepwater Horizon explosion. That change in policy came at a time when Adm. Thad Allen warned the budget cuts threatened to turn the Coast Guard into a “hollow force.”

An earlier report from Mehta and Solomon also raised important questions that the White House has yet to answer about what Obama knew when. That investigation revealed the White House timeline of events failed to acknowledge an oil leak until four days after the explosion, even though the Coast Guard’s timeline reported a leak one day after the explosion.

That also has a relation to the administration’s insistence on imposing a moratorium on all new drilling in the Gulf.  If the issue was that previous inspections by the MMS couldn’t be trusted, it wouldn’t take a blanket moratorium to fix it.  MMS could reinspect each rig and allow new drilling to proceed on a case-by-case basis.  But if the Coast Guard has inadequate resources to address rig fires thanks to ill-conceived budget cuts, then their fear of expanded drilling makes a little more sense.

The White House needs to come clean on this point.  Certainly BP’s actions created the situation in the Gulf, but if the US response is what made it exponentially worse, we need to know that and take the corrective action necessary to ensure we don’t repeat it.

Update: I changed “have the proper resources” to “get the proper resources” in the first paragraph.  The CG isn’t expected to fight the fires themselves, but to coordinate the response and resources.  “Get” is more accurate.

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No tragedy ever happens that government incompetence can’t make worse.

RBMN on July 30, 2010 at 9:35 AM

Anyone else feel like the Three Stooges are in charge?

Monica on July 30, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Ruh roh

cmsinaz on July 30, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Incompetence & malevolence on the part of this regime.

The crippling budget cuts President Obama proposed for the Coast Guard also deserve a closer examination. Obama’s spending plan reduced the blue water fleet by a full one-third, slashed 1,000 personnel, five cutters, and several aircraft, including helicopters.

WTF? Cutting the Coast Guard isn’t going to balance the budget. One of the constitutional duties of the federal government is to control our waterways.

Not fundamental transformation, rather fundamental wrecking.

rbj on July 30, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Give the man a break. He’s got his hands full, what with the car business, fundraisers, TV exposure, and race issues.

a capella on July 30, 2010 at 9:40 AM

The government already owned part of the blame — or at least the liberals who put in the stringent regulations to limit on-shore drilling that forced oil companies into offshore areas where the cutting-edge technology to drill over a mile below the surface of the Gulf outstripped the current technology to quickly cap a spill that deep.

If it turns out that the deepwater rigs themselves were inventive enough so that no one in the Coast Guard or anyplace else had yet developed a standard policy on how to fight a rig fire without sinking the thing and breaking the pipe casing, the feds again own part of that blame (yes, BP and the other oil companies should have had a contingency plan, but given the myriad of federal regs already in place, it’s at very least a failure of government oversight from a government that made deepwater drilling one of the few viable options for finding new domestic oil and natural gas sources).

jon1979 on July 30, 2010 at 9:42 AM

If you are intelligent and naive or stupid and incompetent, when the end results are the same, there is absolutlely no difference. Our country is being ravaged by the most intelligent, naive and incompetent administration in our history.

volsense on July 30, 2010 at 9:43 AM

They will do a better job at health care!

rob verdi on July 30, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Reagan was right when he said the following phrase was the worst thing you could ever hear:

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’

Guardian on July 30, 2010 at 9:44 AM

Somehow…this will end up being blamed on Bush.

AubieJon on July 30, 2010 at 9:45 AM

It certainly appears that the Coast Guard contributed to the sinking of the oil rig and hence the massive oil leak.

It is certain that everything they did after the sinking made things worse.

Prevented BP from capping the well on day 1.
Ordered Jindal to stop building barrier islands off the Lousiana Coast.
Ordered Alabama to remove 6 foot dia oil booms that formed a barrier off their coast line.
Prevented most of the oil boom boats from working in the area.

Obama’s EPA squelched every real and concrete solution to the problem.

It has never been “Yes We Can” in the gulf.

It has always been “No You Can’t”

Never waste a crisis.
Never end one too soon.

The Rock on July 30, 2010 at 9:45 AM

Can BP get its SHAKENDOWN 20 Billion back now and the Obamatrons fork over their cash stash due to inept bungling?

Rep. lawyers everywhere ought to be suing the socks off this corrupt, inept, idiotic administration.

Can’t wait to hear Rush tioday as Fibbs called him out yesterday on the socialization of Big Auto!

dhunter on July 30, 2010 at 9:46 AM

Ed – 3rd sentence: “the platform sunk” = “the platform sank.”

greggriffith on July 30, 2010 at 9:47 AM

From what I understand,the rig should of burned itself out,
and accusations that the Coast Guard,poured on so much water,they sank it!!

I dunno!!
=================================
Coast Guard Battles Deepwater Horizon Oil Rig Fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qbB-Ga0rh8

canopfor on July 30, 2010 at 9:47 AM

a capella on July 30, 2010 at 9:40 AM

and a putter. . .

mwbri on July 30, 2010 at 9:48 AM

Heh, maybe the Coast Guard is also responsible for releasing the Lockerbie Bomber?

Look – sometimes Sh1te happens.

And when “Biblical” Sh1te happens – the only thing you can do is try and do your best. In most of those cases – it means you’re going down in a huge “wipeout” because you can’t surf a big huge “Biblical” wave so you can only hold your breath until it’s done with you. If you make it to the surface eventually – that’s an “A” on the exam.

Katrina was like that – I actually think the Bush administration did as good a job as it could with that debacle. I DO think there was a lot of room for improvement, however, at the state level in Louisiana and locally in New Orleans.

As far as this spill goes – who could have figured this kind of spill would happen? I blame Obama – not for the spill and no so much for the cleanup – as I do with his “politicization” of the spill and his refusal to listen to, and support, the local authorities down here who have their sh1te in one sock.

HondaV65 on July 30, 2010 at 9:49 AM

a capella on July 30, 2010 at 9:40 AM

don’t forget golf

cmsinaz on July 30, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Somehow…this will end up being blamed on Bush.

AubieJon on July 30, 2010 at 9:45 AM

you know it…sad bunch of losers

cmsinaz on July 30, 2010 at 9:51 AM

the public has a right to know why we’re just now learning this information 100 days after the disaster began

will anderson cooper get all wee wee’d up? keeping them honest, don’cha know

cmsinaz on July 30, 2010 at 9:52 AM

the public has a right to know why we’re just now learning this information 100 days after the disaster began.

Ed, you need to share where you buy your drugs from with everyone here, because you are most definetly on something good if you believe the above.

Johnnyreb on July 30, 2010 at 9:53 AM

I’ve lost a lot of respect for the USCG. When the skimmer boats finally started getting out to the spill what did the USCG do? They immediately stopped and inspected every boat for the proper equipment and kept them for working for several days. Not because of violations but just kept them from working. Thad Allen has been a huge disappointment.

roux on July 30, 2010 at 9:53 AM

I’ve been wondering why water was being used to fight an oil fire. You learn not to use water on an oil/grease fire very young. I’m sure if the current Red Adair were consulted early that wouldn’t have happened. This actually explains a lot and needs to be publicized.

lizzie beth on July 30, 2010 at 9:54 AM

Give the man a break. He’s got his hands full, what with the car business, fundraisers, TV exposure, and race issues.

Don’t forget the golfing.

Vancomycin on July 30, 2010 at 9:55 AM

Obama and the environmentalists needed a crisis to call the moratorium and enact any anti-fossil fuel mandates they can.

Actually, the leak was plugged within 24 hours. The film footage you saw was the same sequence shown over and over to make you think it was spewing oil for 80 or so days :) /sarc

iamsaved on July 30, 2010 at 9:55 AM

If it turns out the Coast Guard is at fault — either because it didn’t follow proper procedures or couldn’t respond adequately because of a lack of resources — the public has a right to know why we’re just now learning this information 100 days after the disaster began.

Don’t worry, America… those hard-hitting reporters on JournoList will be getting right on that!!!

crazy_legs on July 30, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Any ‘Gulf Spill’ truthers here?

listens2glenn on July 30, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Crazy side note: I noticed during last night’s thread about the Deutschland Fuer Palin site, they had this tweet

RT tjholthaus Did the Federal Government Cause the BP Oil Spill?: Step back for a minute. It is a “known fact” that BP’s action… http://bit.ly/bjs1Xf 4:50 PM Jul 28th via twitterfeed

If you follow that link, it goes to a similar article about the spill by Erick at Red State. Again, either a for-real site or the flattest joke ever.

LastRick on July 30, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Ok, I’ll say it….

Were they ORDERED to sink it?

golfmann on July 30, 2010 at 9:56 AM

I suggest a moratorium on all government activity in and around Washington, DC until this is resolved…

BlueCollarAstronaut on July 30, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Thad Allen has been a huge disappointment.

roux on July 30, 2010 at 9:53 AM

No, his “Commanding Officer”, O’bama, has ultimate responsibility.

Del Dolemonte on July 30, 2010 at 9:57 AM

Mark: How quick till the Coast Guard got there?

James: Mark, it’s hard to say, between 45 minutes to an hour is when I recall seeing the first helicopter.

Mark: Which is actually pretty fast because you are 130 miles offshore right?

James: Correct. If you look at the nearest spill of land which would be Grand Isle, Louisiana, somewhere in that area, we were only about maybe 50 miles where the crew flies up. From civilization, such as New Orleans, it would be 200 miles. The helicopter was more than likely 80 to 100 miles away.
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Audio and transcript of caller to Mark Levins show

Deepwater Horizon: A Firsthand Account
by Mark Levin Show|Tuesday, May 04, 2010

http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=92765&rss=true

canopfor on July 30, 2010 at 9:57 AM

WTF? Cutting the Coast Guard isn’t going to balance the budget. One of the constitutional duties of the federal government is to control our waterways.Not fundamental transformation, rather fundamental wrecking.rbj on July 30, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Borders too. Great job they are doing.

Dingbat63 on July 30, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Ok, I’ll say it….

Were they ORDERED to sink it?

golfmann on July 30, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Ok, I’ll ask it…

Who didn’t report for work that day?

Disturb the Universe on July 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM

the Coast Guard updated its official maritime rescue manual — advising against firefighting aboard a rig — just seven months before the Deepwater Horizon explosion.

Sounds like a perfect opportunity for some eager reporter to show us the before and after procedures and see if there was any relevant change in handling fires.

LastRick on July 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Obama putted while the Gulf burned.

fossten on July 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Anyone else feel like the Three Stooges are in charge?

Monica on July 30, 2010 at 9:37 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha0czWdx4AA

Del Dolemonte on July 30, 2010 at 10:00 AM

“The White House needs to come clean on this point. ”

Oh sure.

That’ll happen.

notagool on July 30, 2010 at 10:00 AM

Who cares?

If a tree blows up an oil rig in the gulf and the press doesn’t report it, the DOJ doesn’t investigate it, congress doesn’t hold hearings and so no one is held accountable, did it really happen?

barnone on July 30, 2010 at 10:03 AM

The White House needs to come clean on this point. Certainly BP’s actions created the situation in the Gulf, but if the US response is what made it exponentially worse, we need to know that and take the corrective action necessary to ensure we don’t repeat it.

“Brownie” could not be reached for a comment.

Seriously, the Obama administration has again pitted its own inept failures (cutting Coast Guard budgets) to point the blame in another direction. The response to the fire and the direct responsibility to oversee the operation appears to have been neglected, yet Obama and his cronies are accomplished specialist at fixing the blame on some other entity other than their own incompetent capabilities.

Rovin on July 30, 2010 at 10:03 AM

Here is the minute to minute timeline
from the US Coast Guard!!
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Official emergency logs

from the U.S. Coast Guard show hour-by-hour details on the Gulf Coast oil spill,

following the April 20th explosion aboard the oil rig Deepwater Horizon.
=========================================================

http://www.publicintegrity.org/documents/entry/2124/

canopfor on July 30, 2010 at 10:03 AM

Borders too. Great job they are doing.

Dingbat63 on July 30, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Remember, O’bama cut their budget. That is his fault, not theirs.

Del Dolemonte on July 30, 2010 at 10:04 AM

First, Ed really needs to understand how these things work before explaining the riser and the BOP. The BOP is not the “fail safe” device that it has been portrayed to be. It is merely ONE of the controls for stopping gas kicks from becoming a blowout. The well design deep in the earth and the mud circulation (or lack of) are the root causes. They allowed the genie out of the bottle not the BOP, not the riser, and not the firefighting.

That firefighting techniques other than spraying water had no bearing on the well blowout. Yes they are uncoordinated and yes the USCG was at fault. However, the situation was such that if the rig had not have sunk, there still would have been a massive spill.

ANOTHER RED HERRING.

Kermit on July 30, 2010 at 10:04 AM

Cutting Coast Guard resources, what possible justification could there be for doing that? Would that have anything to do with our turning down help containing the spill from other countries?

scalleywag on July 30, 2010 at 10:05 AM

This will get ZERO coverage in the media.

Rational Thought on July 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM

But, but… Halliburton!

calbear on July 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM

Hmmmm…..wonder what this means for the $20B extorted from BP to cover damages?

I suppose this is another good example why the government should not be allowed to take private property from private citizens/organizations without due process, no?

Perhaps this is why we have a court system in the first place, to find fact, apply law, and award damages.

Seems to me like the Obama Administration “acted stupidly” without all the facts.

GopherCon on July 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM

Did Fireboats Sink the Oil Rig?
Some clues from a maritime disaster in February 1942.

http://www.slate.com/id/2253193
====================================

Sure glad,I have Deepwater Horizon links,
up the wazoo!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on July 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM

So this means the taxpayers will have to foot the bill instead of BP. Great, just what we needed.

Cindy Munford on July 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM

So, if this is true( and it sure makes sense to me) does that mean BP is off the hook for at least part of the damages? Will they be asking for their money back?

Can we have Rosie weigh in on this?

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 30, 2010 at 10:07 AM

Remember, O’bama cut their budget. That is his fault, not theirs.

Del Dolemonte on July 30, 2010 at 10:04 AM

Del Dolemonte: Great point,and documented as well!!!:)

canopfor on July 30, 2010 at 10:07 AM

Somehow…this will end up being blamed on Bush.

AubieJon on July 30, 2010 at 9:45 AM

And Rove, and especially Cheney (Halliburton!!!)

Speaking of blaming Bush, a Leftist friend of mine just compared O’bama’s speech in Detroit to Bush’s “Mission Accomplished” speech. He still honestly believes that in that speech Bush said we had won the Iraq War.

Del Dolemonte on July 30, 2010 at 10:07 AM

Actually Ed, water in the ballast tanks, even to full would not have been a problem that the rig could not have handled.

It would be water ingress in other parts of the rig that were not designed to hold liquids that would have caused the ballasting problems. Fire fighting at sea is always a balance of getting the wet stuff on the hot stuff and keeping the amount of water to an absolute minimum. That is why the foam additive is an absolute necessity, it drastically cuts down the amount of water required.

Jim708 on July 30, 2010 at 10:08 AM

Government sank the rig. Didn’t they know filling a boat up with water was a really bad idea? Guess not. What did you expect from the Coast Guard.

And don’t forget MMS approved every step of the drilling process along the way, including the screwy steps. And the well design. Massive government regulatory failure.

Weird, you think Blow Out Preventer, BOP, means what it says it means.

And didn’t the OPA 1990 require the government to have spill response gear available for immediate deployment. The NOAA folks thought so when they met day 2.

tarpon on July 30, 2010 at 10:11 AM

Obama has never been held accountable for anything in his whole life. Don’t think change in that to ever going to happen.

volsense on July 30, 2010 at 10:12 AM

Over the first three days of the crisis — long before the public heard of a leak — the minimum estimate for a total well blowout ballooned eight-fold and the president was warned by his top aides that a major spill larger than the 1989 Exxon Valdez might be coming, according to the documents and interviews
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The logs, obtained by the Center for Public Integrity, provide the most detailed account of the early days of the BP disaster, and identify key events and notifications that were omitted from the White House’s official timeline of the crisis.
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The estimate of the potential leak on April 21, the day after the rig exploded, reveals that first responders almost immediately understood the environmental threat to the Gulf of Mexico when Coast Guard officials detected the first signs of oil appearing on the Gulf waters
===============================================

http://www.publicintegrity.org/articles/entry/2123/

canopfor on July 30, 2010 at 10:14 AM

The same government that will be in charge of our health care.
Great!

Keemo on July 30, 2010 at 10:14 AM

So Obama punishes the Coast Guard by cutting their budgets. He hires an OSHA director that has experience is STD’s for teens. I have seen huge OSHA fines caused by short cutting safety staff before an accidnet happens.
It was my impression from the beginning that the pipe broke after the rig sank and the integrity was ruptured.

seven on July 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Seems to me, it depends on what procedures were in place ahead of time and what was expected to happen in an emergency of this nature. Was the Coast Guard expected to come and assist? Or was BP expected to have necessary equipment to take care of itself?

It would be cool to have the Coast Guard available and able to assist, but it seems that would require a lot of equipment and personnel on standby for something that almost never happens.

Whereas, BP, like any naval or maritime vessel, should be able to take care of itself in emergencies.

Thus, it seems a little unfair and premature to blame the Coast Guard for this.

Pablo Snooze on July 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Had,the MODU been allowed to burn itself out,the pipeing
would’ve fallen into the seabed!!!

From what I’ve read,and,I had this info,months ago,
jus sayin!!

canopfor on July 30, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Slightly OT, but could I ask a simple question: Why is BP closing out a well that is producing crude oil?

Isn’t that the whole point of drilling for oil in the first place?

Colbyjack on July 30, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Awww, poor little concern troll thinks that the USCG (and therefore, Zero) shouldn’t be blamed for this.

Tell you what. If the rig hadn’t sunk, and if the coast guard response was responsible for it, then heads need to roll. Especially if that response was because of reduced funding.

Vancomycin on July 30, 2010 at 10:18 AM

Using water on a class Bravo fire is a recipe for disaster, especially in a Maritime condition.

Where was the AFFF (Aqueous film forming foam)?

Dr.Gills on July 30, 2010 at 10:21 AM

Heres the website tracking the dollars and
payouts!!
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July 30, 2010
State Attorney Generals Find Problems with Draft Protocols for Paying Individuals and Businesses Claims

http://www.bpoilspilllawblog.com/

canopfor on July 30, 2010 at 10:22 AM

If someone had tried to cap that riser it still would not have held the pressure, and would have burst.

A likely scenario if the DWH had not have sank would have been to attempt flow the blowing gas with oil to barges until a relief well killed the Macondo Well. Metal torn and warped by the explosion and heat from the flames would have made this difficult.

Now if anyone wants to go down the avenue of “it’s the USCG’s fault” you may want to interview someone with Wild Well Control or Boots & Coots. Both of these are sadly absent from all of this activity to contain the well, their specialty.

Kermit on July 30, 2010 at 10:24 AM

The main source of the spill was not the blowout preventer, but the riser pipe to the rig. When the rig collapsed and sank a few days after the blowout, the pipe tore open and began pouring tens of thousands of barrels of oil each day into the Gulf of Mexico. Had the rig been salvaged, it’s likely that most of the spill would never have occurred.


WH Energy Adviser Browner On Oil Spill: “We’ve Always Been In Charge”

http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/42325/660525.html

Yet more incompetence and failure from Mr. Hope and Change.

……and more evidence for the MSM to ignore while they are looking for real important news…..like Palin’s grammatical errors.

…..Obama’s failure to show any leadership and intelligence concerning the Gulf Oil spill parallels with his failed economic policies and “smart power” on the International stage.

Anyone still claiming this man as a “great President” is nothing more than an idiot.

Baxter Greene on July 30, 2010 at 10:25 AM

Can you even imagine if Pres. Bush was still in office? Sharpton would be claiming to have proof that SEALS blew up the platform and Rosie O’Donnel would be claiming that oil rigs don’t burn.

The White House has micro-managed this and made a total mess of everything. How Obama gets a pass on this disaster is incredible, but the people in the region will never forget how fouled up this remains.

Hening on July 30, 2010 at 10:26 AM

Ok, I’ll say it….

Were they ORDERED to sink it?

golfmann on July 30, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Ok, I’ll ask it…

Who didn’t report for work that day?

Disturb the Universe on July 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Obowma?

AubieJon on July 30, 2010 at 10:30 AM

Fossten–nice one

cmsinaz on July 30, 2010 at 10:31 AM

Slightly OT, but could I ask a simple question: Why is BP closing out a well that is producing crude oil?

Isn’t that the whole point of drilling for oil in the first place?

Colbyjack on July 30, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Colbyjack:

Deepwater drilled and plugged the Tiber Well,at 35,055 feet.

Then went on to the
Well from Hell Macondo Mississippi Canyon Block 252,and
they were suppose to drill it,cap it and move on to another
drilling project!!!
=======================

Tiber Well
———–

http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=2012968&contentId=7055818

canopfor on July 30, 2010 at 10:33 AM

Was it deliberate? That BP wrote a major portion of the Cap n Trade bill tells me that they engaged in a scam of the first order. Why not deliberate sabotage either directly or indirectly to support the first scam? /conspiracy

debg on July 30, 2010 at 10:33 AM

Exit question: How is Obama going to get his boot on to his own neck?

29Victor on July 30, 2010 at 10:35 AM

Not surprised. I have always thought it was too convenient that Obama had just, out of the blue, made the decision to expand offshore oil drilling. Then, shucks, DeepWater happened and, gosh, he suddenly had a good excuse to put a stop to it.

Obama to expand offshore oil drilling
Tim Varga | April 13, 2010

http://www.terrapass.com/blog/posts/offshore-drilling

JellyToast on July 30, 2010 at 10:37 AM

Awww, poor little concern troll thinks that the USCG (and therefore, Zero) shouldn’t be blamed for this.

Vancomycin on July 30, 2010 at 10:18 AM

Who here said what you allege?

Del Dolemonte on July 30, 2010 at 10:41 AM

Well, this will make a lot of lawyers a lot of money while the Gulf residents go bankrupt. This explains the strong arming of the $20B.

Jed_Eckert on July 30, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Give the man a break. He’s got his hands full, what with the car business, fundraisers, TV exposure, and race issues…

a capella on July 30, 2010 at 9:40 AM

…a wedding to plan, my wife to murder, and Guilder to frame for it. I’m swamped.

TexasDan on July 30, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Isn’t this timely… Maybe the spill wasn’t as bad as broadcast by the Administration.

iamsaved on July 30, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Those people that are in the Coast Guard Command Center working the oil fire were probably hired while Bush was President, so the blame problem is settled as far as Obama is concerned.

albill on July 30, 2010 at 10:43 AM

I’ve watched the government in all it’s many entities & forms screw up the environment.
Environmentalists always want the govt to step in & ‘save’ things, but in reality, the govt is the destroyer of the environment.
So this does not surprise me at all.
I love to watch how the govt hires ‘experts’ in wildlife biology, etc. who are nothing but book learned morons with no concept of how the real natural world works.
I have watched these people come in & tell farmers & ranchers who have been taking care of & nurturing the land all their lives what to do. And they have no experience behind them other than a worthless 4 yr, 6 yr, or 8 yr degree that never prepared them for real nature.

Badger40 on July 30, 2010 at 10:43 AM

Kaptain Kickass is going to have to do become a contortionist.

TexasDan on July 30, 2010 at 10:43 AM

Gee, might that be why Queen Nancy killed the independent investigation?

mojo on July 30, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Seems to me, it depends on what procedures were in place ahead of time and what was expected to happen in an emergency of this nature. Was the Coast Guard expected to come and assist? Or was BP expected to have necessary equipment to take care of itself?

Whereas, BP, like any naval or maritime vessel, should be able to take care of itself in emergencies.

Thus, it seems a little unfair and premature to blame the Coast Guard for this.

Pablo Snooze on July 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM

…The Captain addressed this point.

The Coast Guard is not supposed to participate in firefighting, but instead assign an expert to coordinate the private firefighting efforts of the rig operator and its contractors. The Coast Guard failed to do so, and the result was an uncoordinated, “general response” effort that mainly relied on salt water to extinguish the fires. That is not the most effective way to fight rig fires; the best way is to use foam, which apparently wasn’t on hand. An expert would have known this, but as CPI’s report of the testimony shows, none was assigned:

The Feds did not enact their own protocol nor did they enact emergency plans that were laid in place in the early 90′s.

This is in conjunction with Obama’s own appointees who gave this rig and BP a pass on inspections,regulations,and environmental requirements.

This is in conjunction with the Obama administration not having adequate resources available to handle such a disaster….fire boom….foam….to name just two.

This is in conjunction with the Obama administration turning down help from other countries that had expertise in this area and were actually ready from “day one”……only to ask them to come help many weeks later.

The Feds were responsible for the oversight and emergency response to this disaster……Obama is the top Fed in the country…..

…..instead of showing leadership and taking immediate action…..Obama went on vacation to Asheville while Salazar went white water rafting in Colorado.

It is more than appropriate to blame the escalation of this disaster and the failed response on the Federal Government and it’s leadership….it was their responsibility and they blew it……
…..and now they are compounding the problem with economically destructive drilling moratoriums.

…..Obama…epic fail on all fronts.

Baxter Greene on July 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM

The Feds were responsible for the oversight and emergency response to this disaster……
Baxter Greene on July 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM

I was going to bring this up. I read somewhere while this was going on exactly what you say. It was a printout of the regulations and it said the Fed Gov’t is to take charge of the situation. Instead, the politicized White House put the onus on BP and was derelict in its duties.

Jeff on July 30, 2010 at 10:56 AM

A recent David Brooks article that tore the feds a new one over their disjointed response, but never mentioned the words “Obama”, FEMA, MMS, DHS… only the Coast Guard.

Funny that. It would have been written much diferently 2 years ago right?

drunyan8315 on July 30, 2010 at 10:57 AM

Interesting story.

Oops, already down the memory hole never to be thought of again.

Did y’all hear that Hillary Clinton’s daughter is getting married?

Wow! It’s like we’re all reliving Camelot again.

What a time to be alive!

Dorvillian on July 30, 2010 at 10:59 AM

So, Ed, fire doesn’t melt steel?

/ couldn’t help myself

faraway on July 30, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Did y’all hear that Hillary Clinton’s daughter is getting married?

Wow! It’s like we’re all reliving Camelot again.

What a time to be alive!

Dorvillian on July 30, 2010 at 10:59 AM

Apparently the air space from NY City all the way up to Albany along the Hudson River will be closed for many hours tomorrow.

Ruling Class.

Del Dolemonte on July 30, 2010 at 11:09 AM

Instead, the politicized White House put the onus on BP and was derelict in its duties.

Jeff on July 30, 2010 at 10:56 AM

To follow up on my own comment, where’s Woodward and Bernstein now? Where are all of the precious left-wing investigative journalists now, ready to “blow the lid off” any right-wing scandals. If they looked into this situation they’d probably sink Obama lower than this oil rig.

Jeff on July 30, 2010 at 11:14 AM

It certainly appears that the Coast Guard contributed to the sinking of the oil rig and hence the massive oil leak.

It is certain that everything they did after the sinking made things worse.

Prevented BP from capping the well on day 1.
Ordered Jindal to stop building barrier islands off the Lousiana Coast.
Ordered Alabama to remove 6 foot dia oil booms that formed a barrier off their coast line.
Prevented most of the oil boom boats from working in the area.

Obama’s EPA squelched every real and concrete solution to the problem.

It has never been “Yes We Can” in the gulf.

It has always been “No You Can’t”

Never waste a crisis.
Never end one too soon.

The Rock on July 30, 2010 at 9:45 AM

-The Bammie administration also had a burn-in-place plan for spills in place and approved, and failed to trigger it.
-Failed to waive Jones Act to allow foreign help, a sop to his union thug buddies.
-Delayed the Dutch water-filtering ship with trivial inspections and would not waive foolish EPA water filtering guidelines which it did not meet.

Anyone else? We need a comprehensive list of Bammies screwups on this project hosted somewhere.

slickwillie2001 on July 30, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Government accountability….

Is it time for another round of golf, already?

ajacksonian on July 30, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Did y’all hear that Hillary Clinton’s daughter is getting married?

Wow! It’s like we’re all reliving Camelot again.

What a time to be alive!

Dorvillian on July 30, 2010 at 10:59 AM

A 2 million dollar wedding in the “worst economy since the great depression”….

Poll: D.C. elites a world apart
By: Andy Barr
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39809.html

July 18, 2010 10:17 PM EDT

In their opinions on policy and politicians ranging from President Barack Obama to Sarah Palin, elites in Washington have a strikingly divergent outlook from the rest of the nation, according to a new POLITICO poll released Monday.

…democrats are so out of touch with what is going on in America it has become nauseating.

Baxter Greene on July 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM

…. That firefighting techniques other than spraying water had no bearing on the well blowout. Yes they are uncoordinated and yes the USCG was at fault. However, the situation was such that if the rig had not have sunk, there still would have been a massive spill.

ANOTHER RED HERRING.

Kermit on July 30, 2010 at 10:04 AM

But isn’t it the sinking of the rig the factor that gave us the irregular break that was so hard to seal off? I remember watching the machine they put down there which attempted to saw off the pipe to get a clean break, multiple times and as I recall without success.

Actually Ed, water in the ballast tanks, even to full would not have been a problem that the rig could not have handled.

It would be water ingress in other parts of the rig that were not designed to hold liquids that would have caused the ballasting problems. Fire fighting at sea is always a balance of getting the wet stuff on the hot stuff and keeping the amount of water to an absolute minimum. That is why the foam additive is an absolute necessity, it drastically cuts down the amount of water required.

Jim708 on July 30, 2010 at 10:08 AM

Wouldn’t ballast tanks filled unevenly be the main concern, tending to cause a capsize?

slickwillie2001 on July 30, 2010 at 11:24 AM

Is it too soon to say? … Obama Lied, Sea Creatures Died

faraway on July 30, 2010 at 11:26 AM

the public has a right to know why we’re just now learning this information 100 days after the disaster began

will anderson cooper get all wee wee’d up? keeping them honest, don’cha know

cmsinaz on July 30, 2010 at 9:52 AM

How dare you mock Andy! He’s a Vanderbilt you know! He’s like American royalty! Show some respect!

slickwillie2001 on July 30, 2010 at 11:27 AM

The Feds were responsible for the oversight and emergency response to this disaster……
Baxter Greene on July 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM

I was going to bring this up. I read somewhere while this was going on exactly what you say. It was a printout of the regulations and it said the Fed Gov’t is to take charge of the situation. Instead, the politicized White House put the onus on BP and was derelict in its duties.

Jeff on July 30, 2010 at 10:56 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/01/us/01gulf.html?hp=&pagewanted=print

A law passed a year after the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster makes the owner of a rig or vessel responsible for cleaning up a spill. But oversight of the cleanup is designated to the Coast Guard, with advice from other federal agencies.

Rear Adm. Robert C. North, retired, who was commander of the Coast Guard’s Eighth District from 1994 to 1996, said that decisions in these situations are made collectively, but that the buck essentially stops with the federal coordinator — in this case, Admiral Landry. “The federal on-scene coordinator is kind of the one individual to say, ‘I think we need to do more or that’s adequate,’ ” he said.


…… …….the buck stops at the Presidents desk.

Baxter Greene on July 30, 2010 at 11:30 AM

the public has a right to know why we’re just now learning this information 100 days after the disaster began.

Salt water that was sprayed on the fire capsized the rig, which ruptured the riser pipe, which created the leak. Gubmint was not the solution; gubmint is the problem.

petefrt on July 30, 2010 at 11:31 AM

Was the “botched response” accidental or deliberate? Was someone ordered by the Obama administration to turn an oil rig fire into a major “crisis”? And how did the water hoses knock over a steel oil rig anyway? Water can’t bend steel! We need a conspiracy theory on the Gulf spill!

stonemeister on July 30, 2010 at 11:33 AM

I’m waiting for it. It may never come, but it won’t shock me to hear….Obama and friends ordered it to be done this way, to create the scenario that played out. Why? To get the moratorium, and kill big oil once, and for all.

Enviromental whackos are probably popping the champaign bottles as we type.

capejasmine on July 30, 2010 at 11:33 AM

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