House Dems feel hung out to dry on cap-and-trade

posted at 12:15 pm on July 27, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

The Washington Post tells a tale of woe in today’s edition, that of House Democrats in coal country shocked, shocked! to find themselves unpopular for voting for cap-and-trade.  They want to blame the Senate for not supporting their supposedly brave vote by joining the circular firing squad, but the Senate vote has little to do with their plight.  Their constituents have reached the obvious conclusion that their Representatives have stopped representing them, and started representing their ideological leadership:

But 13 months after that tough vote, Boccieri and dozens of other House Democrats along the Rust Belt are not at all happy with the way things have turned out. The White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) had assured reluctant members that the Senate would take up the measure. Although Senate passage wasn’t a sure thing, House Democrats hoped to go back home to voters with a great story to tell — about reducing dependence on foreign oil, slowing climate change and creating jobs.

That didn’t happen. Senate leaders, sensing political danger, repeatedly put off energy legislation, and the White House didn’t lean on them very hard to make it a priority. In the aftermath of the gulf oil spill, the Senate is set to take up a stripped-down bill next week, but the controversial carbon-emissions cap is conspicuously missing.

This has left some House Democrats feeling badly served by their leaders. Although lawmakers are reluctant to say so publicly, their aides and campaign advisers privately complain that the speaker and the president left Democrats exposed on an unpopular issue that has little hope of being signed into law.

What a sad tale!  Perhaps they should have considered the interests of their districts first, instead of their Speaker and President.  Ike Skelton’s constituents in Missouri certainly feel that way, and see his support for cap-and-trade as a sign that 34 years in Washington has made Skelton a (D-Pelosi) rather than a (D-Missouri):

“That bill would just crucify Missouri. Voting for it, it just didn’t make sense,” said state Sen. Bill Stouffer, who is one of two well-financed Republican primary candidates hoping to unseat Democratic Rep. Ike Skelton in the fall. TheGOP is using the climate change vote to accuse Skelton, now in his 34th year in Congress, of drifting from his moderate Midwestern roots.

“I vote for Ike Skelton. Everybody votes for Ike Skelton,” said Kay Hoflander, chairman of the Lafayette County Republican Party. But when Skelton voted for the climate bill, “he quit representing his district,” Hoflander said. “People now are saying, ‘Ike used to be one of us.’ “

Anyone with a map and a sense of politics knew that the Senate would get nowhere with cap-and-trade.  Harry Reid used up all of his political capital getting ObamaCare passed, and that didn’t have the regional implications that C&T has.  A number of Democrats in the upper chamber represent Coal Belt states like Pennylvania, Ohio, West Virginia, Indiana, and so on.  On top of that, imposing a de facto energy tax in the midst of economic turmoil would be akin to dousing a house fire with jet fuel, and the rational minds in the Senate know it.

If these Representatives fell for a line from Pelosi and Obama that the Senate would rush to pass such a bill after making themselves monumentally unpopular with ObamaCare, then they deserve their early retirement.  It sounds more like a case for a Captain Louis Renault award, however:


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Am I reading this correctly, the the Dems are now crying that they’re victims of the White House?
If irony were a rare element, I’d be challenging Bill Gates for the top of the Forbes list.

Amendment X on July 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM

And BP was all for cap and trade.

maverick muse on July 27, 2010 at 12:22 PM

can·non fod·der
1. low-ranking military personnel: members of the lowest ranks of the military, regarded as an expendable resource in wartime
2. expendable person: a person or group regarded as a resource to be exploited or sacrificed

what are your questions, Dems?

ted c on July 27, 2010 at 12:22 PM

If my reps ever came to me to tout their votes as a means of slowing climate change, I would laugh in their face. Then I would ask them to explain how.

Bishop on July 27, 2010 at 12:22 PM

I’m shocked to learn some these house Dems were so stupid…. well, not really.

humdinger on July 27, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Since when are the feelings of Dems important? They’re just there to do the bidding of the President and the Speaker.

ted c on July 27, 2010 at 12:24 PM

“and the rational minds in the Senate know it.”

Huh? How many of those are there?

FOWG1 on July 27, 2010 at 12:24 PM

then they deserve their early retirement. It sounds more like a case for a Captain Louis Renault award, however:

How about both?

CDeb on July 27, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Given Obama’s out spoken threats to the coal industry I wonder why PA hasn’t seen this coming all along. So much for listening to their voters…whose up for that policy?

jeanie on July 27, 2010 at 12:25 PM

If these Representatives fell for a line from Pelosi and Obama that the Senate would rush to pass such a bill after making themselves monumentally unpopular with ObamaCare, then they deserve their early retirement.

suckers, every one of them…

cmsinaz on July 27, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Who would have thought that Americans across the country in Democratic-held light blue or purple districts would be angry to discover they elected over 200 Congressmen/Congresswomen in 2008 to represent 750,000 San Francisco voters, based on their reps blindly following Nancy Pelosi’s lead. What a shocker.

(What the irate reps are really irate about is the cap-and-trade vote by the House with no Senate follow-up exposed their true beliefs to the world while not providing them the cover of claiming the American people really support this, because the Senate also passed it and Obama signed it. If they’re going to be exposed as liberals, they at least want the satisfaction of being able to claim people want liberal laws — the Senate’s cut-and-run on cap-and-trade denied them even that fig leaf.)

jon1979 on July 27, 2010 at 12:28 PM

This has left some House Democrats feeling badly served by their leaders.

Welcome to our world.

rbj on July 27, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Titanic sails…………

House Dems complained that the wheel house,er WH
is,was,steaming politically full-speed ahead……..

canopfor on July 27, 2010 at 12:28 PM

LOL Captain Louis Renault mimic in hilarious Matthau’s HOPSCOTCH flick.

maverick muse on July 27, 2010 at 12:29 PM

In other news, prostitutes feel unloved by customers.

*shocked face*

ted c on July 27, 2010 at 12:29 PM

If I were a dem in congress I would be upset too. One can only imagine what it must be like to wake up in the morning with a sore backside and a $20 bill on the dresser. Couldn’t happen to a sleazier bunch of people if you ask me.

milwife88 on July 27, 2010 at 12:29 PM

milwife88 on July 27, 2010 at 12:29 PM

heh

the red light district at its best

cmsinaz on July 27, 2010 at 12:32 PM

what are your questions, Dems?

ted c on July 27, 2010 at 12:22 PM

Were they really expecting to be regarded as “so very special” by this unengaged potus?

Sharrod’s choice to exploit her opportunity by the job lost job created Obama gives the democrat masses hopenchance to get a free ride, too.

maverick muse on July 27, 2010 at 12:34 PM

Someone, please explain how passing an unpopular bill gives one political cover? Is that the equivalent of the old adage, “if your friends jump off of a cliff, you will too?” Bueller?

30 pcs of silver on July 27, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Well,this isn’t going to help the Social
Justice cause,er,scam!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on July 27, 2010 at 12:36 PM

If they couldn’t see this one coming, then they are really in need of a wake up call. It’s too bad we pay these fools a pension. We should send them a bill instead of a pension.

ted c on July 27, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Boo. Hoo.

jennifernaz on July 27, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Fred Kicks Off Renew the Tax Cuts Campaign

/Sure do wish the neoconservative bloggers had not discouraged Fred’s ’08 potus campaign.

maverick muse on July 27, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Am I reading this correctly, the the Dems are now crying that they’re victims of the White House?

Surely not. I mean, wouldn’t that make them racists???

CJ on July 27, 2010 at 12:46 PM

I have to ask, how many elements of Cap & Trade were already passed by being inserted into the oppressive ObamaCare bill, and the Financial Reform bill?

jjrakman on July 27, 2010 at 12:46 PM

I’m shocked as well.

BKeyser on July 27, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Obama may not even need congress to get most of what he wants. He has the EPA and the AGW crowd demanding action so with enough tsars and executive orders he pretty much can by-pass congress.

fourdeucer on July 27, 2010 at 12:51 PM

How many times does it take for it to dawn on these people that Pelosi an Obama are using them like a cheap piece of Kleenex? After someone blows his nose on you a few times it would take an idiot not to get the message.

Oh. Forget I said it.

hachiban on July 27, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Obambi doesn’t need any of the hacks in either house, sadly he has the EPA and the machinery in place in other bills to do what he wants on Cap and Tax.

November is soooo important to save America.

Sandybourne on July 27, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Do we have enough waaaaaambulances?

ladyingray on July 27, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Reparations a b!tch.

ted c on July 27, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Ike Skelton’s vote on Cap and Trade is a mystery to me. He voted for the stimulus bill but against Obamacare and against repealing “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.” He has Whiteman Airbase and Fort Leonardwood in his district and has great military creds.

Obama only got 38% of the vote in his district and Skelton won with about 66% of the vote. I don’t know what they have used to turn him in Washington but he has said he would vote for Pelosi as leader again.

There are 9 Republicans running in the primary and all have said they would back whoever came out the winner but he’ll be tough to beat.

Vince on July 27, 2010 at 1:07 PM

On top of that, imposing a de facto energy tax in the midst of economic turmoil would be akin to dousing a house fire with jet fuel, and the rational minds in the Senate know it.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

LibTired on July 27, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Boo fricken hoo, dipsticks. Hope it burns going down.

CantCureStupid on July 27, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Non-leftsist House Dems feel hung out to dry on cap-and-trade entire Obama agenda

phreshone on July 27, 2010 at 1:18 PM

They weren’t used so much by the O as by Pelosi, as this was her numero uno agenda item. She got this vote done last summer before the first break when O’s approval ratings were still sky high and pre-townhall meetings. She could then say she delivered for her district, not caring one whit whether any other dem would have difficulty with their districts.

txmomof6 on July 27, 2010 at 1:31 PM

But 13 months after that tough vote, Boccieri and dozens of other House Democrats along the Rust Belt are not at all happy with the way things have turned out. The White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) had assured reluctant members that the Senate would take up the measure. Although Senate passage wasn’t a sure thing, House Democrats hoped to go back home to voters with a great story to tell — about reducing dependence on foreign oil, slowing climate change and creating jobs.

This meme about cap-and-trade “reducing dependence on foreign oil” is pure garbage, and even those pushing it in the Senate know it. I attended a conference by Sen. Joe Lieberman about a month ago, and he said that his proposed cap-and-trade bill would only impose cap-and-trade on ELECTRIC POWER PLANTS ONLY during its first four years, then he stated that the USA gets 50% of its power from coal, 20% from natural gas, and a paltry 3% from oil (the remainder from nukes and renewables). How would putting a huge penalty on 70% of our electrical energy REDUCE our dependence on foreign oil? Say it ain’t so, Joe!!!

Obambi doesn’t need any of the hacks in either house, sadly he has the EPA and the machinery in place in other bills to do what he wants on Cap and Tax.

The EPA recently published a “rule” whereby power plants releasing more than 250,000 tons/year of CO2 have to demonstrate “Best Available Control Technology” to reduce the emissions. 250,000 tons/year of CO2 corresponds to about 52 megawatts (MW) of heating value of natural gas, and since no power plant is 100% efficient, this translates to about 30 MW (max) of electric power, even less for a coal-fired plant, which is TINY compared to most commercial power plants in the hundreds of megawatts.

The problem is, nobody really knows what “Best Available Control Technology” is for carbon dioxide: some people have pie-in-the-sky ideas for capturing and compressing CO2 and storing it underground at over 1100 psi, but THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE and its cost is prohibitive. In the face of such uncertainty, power companies have stopped building power plants. Thanks a million, EPA, because my employer’s main business is permitting power plants…

Senate Democrats may do themselves a favor by NOT voting on cap-and-trade, and if no new power plants are built, it’s not THEIR fault! The truth is, we must BLAME THE EPA but the EPA will only change its policies when a new President appoints a new EPA administrator.

Will anyone remember this in 2012? Probably not, unless the demand for electric power goes up and the plants to produce it don’t exist…

Steve Z on July 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM

This is no more than punitive taxation.
It will not change the climate, weather or air pollution.
75% of the billions in India and Cghina still burn wood, coal, trash to heat and cook. It works. We can’t change that.

seven on July 27, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Start with the EPA. They are the thugs. They repeat their “endangerment findings” expression. But they refuse to consider the massive increase of deaths by reason of small cars in wrecks being deadly.

seven on July 27, 2010 at 1:44 PM

House Dems feel hung out to dry on cap-and-trade?

Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.

theCork on July 27, 2010 at 1:49 PM

look at it this way …once the Obama agenda is fully in place comprehensive immigration reform will not be needed..all the illegal immigrants will self deport for the better economy at home

JKotthoff on July 27, 2010 at 1:49 PM

granted Mexico and Canada will station troops on their side of the borders to keep Americans from entering illegally but hey they don’t have to worry about our government interfering with how they treat border jumpers

JKotthoff on July 27, 2010 at 1:51 PM

I used to vote for Ike. While he is a “D” and I am not, he always had the best interests of Missouri at heart and was a stauch supporter of the troops. I had always considered him a DINO (Democrat in Name Only) and I have been voting for him since 1988.

But recently he has been nothing more than another Democrat rubber stamp vote for the 0bama Regime’s dismantling of America. I will no longer vote for Ike Skelton.

I emailed him to tell him that as well.

Wolftech on July 27, 2010 at 1:57 PM

In the face of such uncertainty, power companies have stopped building power plants. Thanks a million, EPA, because my employer’s main business is permitting power plants… Steve Z on July 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM

And my company’s main business is helping design and retrofit power plants to make them more efficient. No one is doing ANYTHING because they think the administration’s boot will be on their neck soon. In that sense we aren’t preventing pollution BECAUSE of 0bama.

Pennsylvania is incredibly silly for having a cap n tax supportin’ Democrats running the state. It’s almost a joke that COAL-GEN 2010 is taking place in Pittsburgh.

NTWR on July 27, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Wolftech on July 27, 2010 at 1:57 PM

I notice that the 2 leading Republicans have branded each other as big taxers. Let us know about the winner in the “R” primary and if they have a prayer of winning. I am in Russ Carnahan’s district and I have my hands full here.

Vince on July 27, 2010 at 2:11 PM

Anyone is shocked to find this out?

It has only been a year. The team players are all still the same.

percysunshine on July 27, 2010 at 2:17 PM

In a neighboring district (OH-1), first-termer Steve Driehaus, voted for C&T, and, though he’s Catholic, he was schtupaked into voting for Obamacare. Driehaus also voted for the stimulus. He faces the incumbent the beat (Steve Chabot). I hope Driehaus gets creamed.

BuckeyeSam on July 27, 2010 at 2:21 PM

complain that the speaker and the president left Democrats exposed on an unpopular issue

They made their choice. So they can STFU and live with the fact they sold out their constituents.

GarandFan on July 27, 2010 at 2:21 PM

“People now are saying, ‘Ike used to be one of us.’ “

This is the fundamental failure of contemporary politics. the idea that today one is part of the party, rather than their constituency.

TinMan13 on July 27, 2010 at 2:22 PM

Vince on July 27, 2010 at 2:11 PM

Ugh.. Russ Carnahan. I feel for you. I really do.

Wolftech on July 27, 2010 at 2:39 PM

Bwahaha!! Dem representatives hoisted by their petards by their radical leadership. Couldn’t happen to a better bunch of fools.

docdave on July 27, 2010 at 2:55 PM

I just know I’m gonna feel hung out to dry too when I am denied some kind of healthcare by a DeathPanel…I feel the Dems pain.

Bikerchick on July 27, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Let us reduce America to a third world cesspool. That way we will stay in power forever. -Dem

Slowburn on July 27, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Hung out to dry, huh?
GOOD. Now you feel like 60% of America you pieces of sh*t! I hope every last one of you loses your freakin’ job! You should have paid more attention instead of paying bribes. You should have thought of someone other than your stinking rotten selves and your idiotic base. You should’ve known that the majority would NEVER support your lame attempts to unhinge America.
SCROO YOU!

Yellowdog12 on July 27, 2010 at 6:43 PM

It will not change the climate, weather or air pollution

Isn’t that the whole idea, Seven?

oakland on July 27, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Makes you proud to be an American.

Cry havoc and unleash the dogs of war.

Mason on July 27, 2010 at 9:48 PM