Ed Rendell: Obama could face a primary challenge over Afghanistan; Update: RNC video added

posted at 6:32 pm on July 27, 2010 by Allahpundit

Dumb fun via HuffPo, made newsworthy only by the fact that Rendell was one of Hillary’s staunchest backers and thus this will inevitably be seen by some as the Clintons sending up a flare. Simple question per his point about “deterioration”: How far, realistically, would conditions in Afghanistan have to deteriorate for left-wingers to decide that it’s worth tearing the party apart with a primary fight? I could understand someone like Howard Dean launching a symbolic candidacy in order to turn up the pressure on Obama to start pulling out, but … an honest to goodness bid for the nomination? Never happen. There’s no draft and no real risk of catastrophic battlefield defeat, so there’s nothing to galvanize widespread support for an insurgent peacenik Democrat. If Obama stays the course, we’re likely to just keep muddling through, and while no one’s thrilled with that idea, it ain’t enough for a Hillary 2012 campaign when progressives are already wetting themselves about losing the White House to the GOP. The racial politics would be poisonous too, of course. George Bush got reelected in 2004 while muddling through in both Afghanistan and Iraq, and yet Democrats are going to bounce the first black president after a single term for doing the same — when he’s already committed to some sort of token drawdown next summer? Not a chance.

If you’re looking for political intrigue, forget the primary challenge and start thinking about a third-party candidate. Ron Paul will never have a better opportunity: The country’s trending both anti-war and fiscally conservative, and Paul can easily sell himself as the only candidate who’s serious on both points. He’ll still lose big, but he’ll take plenty of votes from the Republican nominee in the process. In fact, ironically, by keeping the war going Obama may inadvertently end up encouraging Paul to jump into the race, which will only end up benefiting … Obama. A neat trick.

Rendell-related exit question: Is the best TV show evah really on par with “Jerry Springer”? C’mon.

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Update: Is the RNC trying to stir the pot a little here? Hmmmm.


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Rendell just conflated guests on the View with Springer’s trailer park trash? Was that fair?……hmmmm?!

ted c on July 27, 2010 at 6:36 PM

Maybe Ed is thinking of challenging him. He will be unemployed after all.

msmveritas on July 27, 2010 at 6:38 PM

Sure Ed.

rob verdi on July 27, 2010 at 6:39 PM

As sure as I’m sitting here, HRC will oppose BHO in 2012. I’ve been saying that since March 2009.

Oink on July 27, 2010 at 6:40 PM

LOL at Mika on Morning Joe on that clip asking that Ed get Obama to do her show. Must be tiring for her to never have met that man who writes her “points” every day. The View – “oh, I just love them!” says Mika.

Marcus on July 27, 2010 at 6:41 PM

Over Afghanistan? Didn’t he run on it his first go round?

Cindy Munford on July 27, 2010 at 6:42 PM

In fact, ironically, by keeping the war going Obama may inadvertently end up encouraging Paul to jump into the race, which will only end up benefiting … Obama. A neat trick.

Dude, that would seriously suck.

WisCon on July 27, 2010 at 6:43 PM

Those WikiLeaks coming out now are the best thing Obama has going for him, he will use those leaks as the means to reinforce his withdrawal deadline and possibly start the draw down early to keep the left from bailing on him.

fourdeucer on July 27, 2010 at 6:47 PM

As sure as I’m sitting here, HRC will oppose BHO in 2012. I’ve been saying that since March 2009.

Oink on July 27, 2010 at 6:40 PM

I have said it all along, bho will not have one primary opponent, but at least 2

ConservativePartyNow on July 27, 2010 at 6:50 PM

OT: Massachusetts declares war on the Constitution. Presidental elections now determined by swing cities.

BDU-33 on July 27, 2010 at 6:50 PM

but … an honest to goodness bid for the nomination? Never happen.

Actually, it already happened when “the Lion of the Senate” decided to take down Carter only to have a small bit of car trouble that derailed him.

slug on July 27, 2010 at 6:51 PM

There’s no draft and no real risk of catastrophic battlefield defeat, so there’s nothing to galvanize widespread support for an insurgent peacenik Democrat.

If Obama stays the course, we’re likely to just keep muddling through, and while no one’s thrilled with that idea

Some seem pretty thrilled with it. Either that or the lives and limbs of American Soldiers and Marines don’t mean too much to them.

Tav on July 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM

A Challenge in the primary? Who would’ve thought that was possible?

Dr Evil on July 27, 2010 at 6:54 PM

OT: a ruling re: the SB1070 coming shortly???

cmsinaz on July 27, 2010 at 6:54 PM

Is Hillary! related to Rory!? They have the same last name.

Cicero43 on July 27, 2010 at 6:56 PM

have to agree with ed here, he does lower the dignity of the office by going on that crap of a show

cmsinaz on July 27, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Ron Paul would be the biggest idiot in the world if he starts a 3rd party campaign. If he can’t win the nomination straight up, then support the one who does.

OT: France declares war on Al Qaeda.

MadisonConservative on July 27, 2010 at 6:35 PM

About time.

OT: Massachusetts declares war on the Constitution. Presidental elections now determined by swing cities.

BDU-33 on July 27, 2010 at 6:50 PM

More idiots trying to undermine our country.

Mirimichi on July 27, 2010 at 6:58 PM

The problem with Afghanistan is the rules of engagement. The less disposed we are to killing civilians, the more accomodating those civilians will be to accomodating Taliban in their midst.

Akzed on July 27, 2010 at 6:58 PM

“If Obama stays the course, we’re likely to just keep muddling through, and while no one’s thrilled with that idea…”

Small comfort to those killed in action by the Taliban who have been trained and armed by Pakistan using our money…

… I wonder how Obowma will fare once that story gains traction?

Seven Percent Solution on July 27, 2010 at 6:59 PM

OT: France declares war on Al Qaeda.

MadisonConservative on July 27, 2010 at 6:35 PM

That’s funny considering that France only has “Surrender Bombs”. They drop them from 30,000 feet and when they hit they split in half and a white flag comes out.

(I’m kidding, they’re fierce, fierce warriors. Really! Fierce!)

hawkdriver on July 27, 2010 at 7:02 PM

A Challenge in the primary? Who would’ve thought that was possible?

Dr Evil on July 27, 2010 at 6:54 PM

But AnninCA has told us over and over Hillary ain’t running.

fourdeucer on July 27, 2010 at 7:03 PM

speaking of leadership. Check out this oil spill video at the 912 site. It is really well done and got a big shout out from GB this am.

http://www.the912project.com/2010/07/13/713-video-summary-of-the-bp-spill-action/

ted c on July 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM

OT: Massachusetts declares war on the Constitution. Presidental elections now determined by swing cities.

BDU-33 on July 27, 2010 at 6:50 PM

preceded by a phone call:

“Hey Deval. Help me out, this reelection thing ain’t lookin’ too good. Do you think you could suspend that electoral college thing or something?”

ted c on July 27, 2010 at 7:06 PM

OT: a ruling re: the SB1070 coming shortly???

cmsinaz on July 27, 2010 at 6:54 PM

You got a link?

ConservativePartyNow on July 27, 2010 at 7:06 PM

Rendell seems to have his mad on today – or 18 months of mad finally boiling over. It’s just funny that of all the thing Obama’s done so far, going on “The View” is finally what made Ed snap.
(As for Ron Paul, of course he’s running in 2012 – the Olympics doesn’t run as much every four years. But this could be the first time Ron runs with Rand in the Senate – the same Rand Paul who was endorsed in the primary by Sarah Palin. Could make for a fun conundrum for the son two years from now.)

jon1979 on July 27, 2010 at 7:11 PM

I could be wrong but wasn’t the French Underground during WWII made up of, I don’t know, French people. They fought very well against the Nazi’s. I suppose they were the French’s version of the Greatest Generation.

Bikerchick on July 27, 2010 at 7:12 PM

OT: France declares war on Al Qaeda.

MadisonConservative on July 27, 2010 at 6:35 PM

That’s known as a “Welcome to the party pal!” moment.

marinetbryant on July 27, 2010 at 7:12 PM

Does anyone know what the ratings for the View are?

ramrants on July 27, 2010 at 7:13 PM

You got a link?

ConservativePartyNow on July 27, 2010 at 7:06 PM

no, heard it on special report…will see if I can find one…

cmsinaz on July 27, 2010 at 7:13 PM

ramrants on July 27, 2010 at 7:13 PM

i don’t know, but I bet they are better than any of the msdnc shows…

cmsinaz on July 27, 2010 at 7:14 PM

when progressives are already wetting themselves about losing the White House to the GOP. The racial politics would be poisonous too, of course.

I dunno, Allah. Suppose the Progressives run with someone like Van Jones, Menedez, Susan Rice, or even Hilda Sollis? All that is needed is a compliant journolist media..

TN Mom on July 27, 2010 at 7:24 PM

There is no doubt whatsoever that O’Carter will get a primary challange.

2012 will be just like 1980.

1. O’Carter will be primaried, but prevail although severely weaken.

2. Palin will win the GOP nomination.

3. The Frum RINOs will whine and run a John Anderson type RINO candidate who will get 6-7% in the general election.

4. Palin will win election.

Norwegian on July 27, 2010 at 7:29 PM

on cnn just now, jan brewer nows says probably no ruling today…
darn…

cmsinaz on July 27, 2010 at 7:33 PM

FIRE CONGRESS

97 Days, 6 Hours, and 24 Minutes.

We are down to double digits.

Dr Evil on July 27, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Why not? In 1980, Teddy challenged Carter which resulted in senile Lillian Carter making vague assassination threats. The incumbent will win, but hell, it’s always fun to watch the whackys on the left go nuts.

Blake on July 27, 2010 at 7:42 PM

“…an honest to goodness bid for the nomination? Never happen.

Don’t be so sure. Bet Jimmy Carter said the same thing. Only he didn’t count on the head honchos at the DNC seeing the writing on the wall. THEY gave Teddy the okay to challenge Carter. Teddy was never called a ‘traitor’ or a ‘divider’.

If the economy still SUCKS in 2014 – and it will – the honchos will be BEGGING Clinton to run.

GarandFan on July 27, 2010 at 7:48 PM

If the economy still SUCKS in 2014 – and it will – the honchos will be BEGGING Clinton to run.

GarandFan on July 27, 2010 at 7:48 PM

..2014? Don’t you mean 2012? Or have you been sniffing too much Hoppes? Better leave the garage door open when you clean them M-1s, my friend.

The War Planner on July 27, 2010 at 7:52 PM

if Paul runs and poses a real threat, he will get torn to shreds. he has a lot to lose by running, whether acknowledged or not

jp on July 27, 2010 at 7:57 PM

I think Howard Dean is just itching for a comeback. He will be on the ticket, and he has a grudge since he was passed over for any job in Bammie’s administration. That may turn out to be all the better for him, since he can claim that he had nothing to do with all the democratics’ screwups.

slickwillie2001 on July 27, 2010 at 8:01 PM

There is nothing in Afghanistan to win or to lose except the political blowback in elections here. That a scumbag Chicago Pol can send to their useless deaths and dismemberments the soldier of today’s super trained forces so that he can steal federal money for his gang a little longer is a scandal that cannot be taken away by useless dreams of glory. Today the conservatives have had to turn to female opinion leaders like Ann Coulter to speak this truth.

jimw on July 27, 2010 at 8:04 PM

I think Howard Dean is just itching for a comeback.

Dean would be a gift from heaven.

GarandFan on July 27, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Obama will not finish the term. Still stand by this talking point. Sorry I am at a ball game but PA has come across lately as a toss-up; still does and I hope it changes colors in Nov. and in 2012.

ProudPalinFan on July 27, 2010 at 8:29 PM

OT: France declares war on Al Qaeda.

The French Foriegn Minister plans to submit surrender documents at noon tomorrow.

Apparently, the French are tired of this war. Again.

BobMbx on July 27, 2010 at 9:04 PM

Hilly Clinton will be on the Democratic ticket in 2012 as the VP candidate. Roosevelt had a different one each time he ran. I think Biden steps down next year either way he’s off the ticket in 2012.

borg on July 28, 2010 at 1:42 AM

Rendell just conflated guests on the View with Springer’s trailer park trash? Was that fair?……hmmmm?!

ted c on July 27, 2010 at 6:36 PM

Not to Jerry. Were any of the view people graduated from Tulane BS, Northwestern JD, twice elected mayor to a great City like Cincinnati. Obama has never sat and never will sit with as skilled a questioner as Springer.
Secretly screwing a married US Senator does not count as public service. Think Monica.

borntoraisehogs on July 28, 2010 at 2:39 AM