Video: Paul Ryan’s argument with Matthews on spending goes pretty much how you’d expect

posted at 10:19 pm on July 26, 2010 by Allahpundit

Via News Busters, Noel Sheppard’s right on target: Matthews isn’t really interested in a discussion of paths to solvency, he’s interested in playing gotcha with the GOP’s fiscal wunderkind to make it look like Ryan lacks the political courage to endorse deep, specific cuts to programs like Medicare and Social Security. That’s why he’s quick to scoff when PR touts a way to trim $4.8 trillion from the budget; Tingles hears it initially as $4.8 billion because he’s eager to accuse the Republican of not being serious. And so it goes, up to the part where Matthews wonders aloud why Ryan isn’t talking about cutting nondiscretionary spending. The answer, offered by the man himself: Because, er, Matthews hadn’t asked him about that. (See Ryan’s website for ideas on shrinking our various entitlement boondoggles.) I’m surprised, frankly, that he’d go on this show knowing what he’s in for, but any chance to push his roadmap is a good chance, I guess.

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papa_giorgio on July 26, 2010 at 11:43 PM

Wow…how appropriate for this thread. You hit it right on the your head.

Good effort.

BigWyo on July 26, 2010 at 11:47 PM

papa_giorgio on July 26, 2010 at 11:25 PM

Are ya kidding me?

You-Eh-Vee on July 26, 2010 at 11:48 PM

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Cindy, this was quite a few months ago. Great segway into him talking about viable candidates. I got to ask the first question and I asked who are the viable candidates were. He mentioned a few (of course Hugh is a Mitt fan). One mention was John Thune. He wasn’t on my radar till then.

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papa_giorgio on July 26, 2010 at 11:48 PM

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I love Ryan, but we tend to want to rush people… let him marinate and refine and get even better.

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papa_giorgio on July 26, 2010 at 11:50 PM

I love Ryan, but we tend to want to rush people… let him marinate and refine and get even better.
papa_giorgio on July 26, 2010 at 11:50 PM

I don’t know that we have the luxury of time at the moment.

cynccook on July 26, 2010 at 11:51 PM

Ryan is a Vesuvius of facts and figures. Put him on TV more – he teaches as he eviscerates.

Well done, Ryan.

fossten on July 26, 2010 at 11:51 PM

papa_giorgio on July 26, 2010 at 11:50 PM

Ok…creepiest Concern Troll…ever…

BigWyo on July 26, 2010 at 11:53 PM

papa_giorgio on July 26, 2010 at 11:48 PM

Considering how far away 2012 is, I don’t like that he is perpetuating the Left’s line of attack. I can’t even think of a candidate yet but I am positive that no Republican should be promoting the seeds of doubt for any of the possibilities. It seems like a petty stunt. Such a shame, I like Mr. Hewitt, he has been lowered in my esteem. Not that he would care.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:53 PM

papa_giorgio on July 26, 2010 at 11:48 PM

I saw an event in Colorado with Dennis Prager, Hugh Hewitt and Sarah Palin in a hockey arena with 8,000 people.

Three speeches, and a Q/A period with a moderator asking questions and all three at the table together.

She was really good, and Hugh had glowing things to say about her performance that night, and later on. I heard a clip from Prager’s show where he praised her as well.

This was in late March, I think.

She is a natural at connecting with people, and should not be underestimated. Even some liberal media types are realizing that, and warning their colleagues.

Things are changing from last year, and will keep changing. I’m not going to rule out the most powerful force in conservatism today based on polls from 6 months ago.

We have along way to go yet, and that is what campaigns are for.

Brian1972 on July 26, 2010 at 11:57 PM

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…yeah, you may be right cynccook. You may be right.

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papa_giorgio on July 27, 2010 at 12:01 AM

We need to emphasize ideas and not personalies. The ideas are eternal but it’s futile to wait for the “perfect” spokesman. A Reagan (or an Obama) comes along rarely. Don’t let the good be the enemy of the pefect.

Drained Brain on July 27, 2010 at 12:06 AM

It was sponsored by 710KNUS, May 22nd, 2010 Denver CO.

The video is a little over an hour.

Brian1972 on July 27, 2010 at 12:07 AM

Don’t let the good be the enemy of the perfect.

Drained Brain on July 27, 2010 at 12:06 AM

I agree. The good thing is, their ideas are killing them, because they don’t do what they promised would be done.

Starting this fall, conservatism can win back enough people to get rid of this crappy experiment and go back to a Reagan foundation for governing, which worked really well.

Conservatism.

It works every time it’s tried.

Brian1972 on July 27, 2010 at 12:11 AM

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papa_giorgio on July 27, 2010 at 12:16 AM

Even if you believed, as he did, that TARP was essential to saving the financial sector, why would you vote for a bill that you know was going to end up …

Aquateen Hungerforce on July 26, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Because the alternative was no bill and a depression? And maybe because he didn’t suspect (as I certainly did not) that President Bush (and then Obama) would abuse it by, e.g., bailing out GM and Chrysler?

edshepp on July 27, 2010 at 12:21 AM

Is Matthews on ‘ludes? He seemed to be sleepy. I know he nearly put me to sleep.

thegreatbeast on July 27, 2010 at 12:33 AM

What a delightful fest.

Schadenfreude on July 27, 2010 at 12:34 AM

This Ryan dude is… umm… very good.

Ash on July 27, 2010 at 12:43 AM

Ryan kicked Matthew’s arse!

blink on July 27, 2010 at 12:45 AM

Ryan kicked both arses, er donkeys.

Schadenfreude on July 27, 2010 at 1:05 AM

Just this evening, I read a splendid line from a James Lee Burke novel, White Doves at Morning, that describes a character skeptical of those who remind me of ObaMao, the Dems, and Matthews, one of the Dem mouthpieces:

He (Jean-Jacques LaRose) thought politics was a confidence game, created to fool those gullible enough to trust their money and well-being to others.

Rep. Ryan ate Matthews’s lunch. He did not let Tweety Bird divert Ryan to the Dem talking points, and he bombarded Matthews with information that overwhelmed Matthews’s understanding.

For some obtuse reason, the Dems refuse to understand that small business people are taxed as individuals under certain chapters of the IRS code. Their punitive plans to punish success and job creation are idiotic.

onlineanalyst on July 27, 2010 at 1:49 AM

I want Rep. Ryan to stay in the House, the purse strings of the government, in a powerful fiscal position. I want him to have the ear of the fiscal policy-makers in a Republican administration.

onlineanalyst on July 27, 2010 at 2:02 AM

Ryan and Christie may not be flawless, but as far as I’m concerned, represent the Right’s best hope..

Quetzal on July 27, 2010 at 2:07 AM

Matthews was trying to twist the talking points in order to suit the Dems’ election plan of attack. Maggie Gallagher sounds the warning at NRO’s “The Corner.”

onlineanalyst on July 27, 2010 at 2:42 AM

PAUL RYAN FOR PREZ 2012!!!

HDFOB on July 26, 2010 at 10:28 PM

X 1000!

JeffVader on July 27, 2010 at 3:12 AM

matthews is a bloody putz, pure and simple…

cmsinaz on July 27, 2010 at 5:58 AM

when you look up the word journalist, matthews picture is no where to be found

cmsinaz on July 27, 2010 at 6:06 AM

Why was he on the show?

Nixon never did an interview with Pravda.

Look – Chris Mathews is a propagandist – all journalism, for the moment – has descended into propaganda. It does no good to talk to these people.

Best you can do is reach out to the media that is friendly or attempts to be balanced – that’s where most of the viewers / readers are anyway.

It’s not a crime to shun interviews from the leftist propagandist media. For crying out loud people – if Journolist had been “Foxolist” – Fox would be out of business now.

There’s only a double standard because we allow one to be.

HondaV65 on July 27, 2010 at 6:26 AM

Love this, Ryan gives specifics and and immediately after Matthews goes on a rant and demands specifics. The other Dem stooge just sits they smiling and then talks about America being great and “we have a plan” or something. Matthews rants againt Ryan again that he’s not giving specifics. Ryan again gives specifics. Matthews rants he needs specifics. What a joke.

JellyToast on July 27, 2010 at 6:28 AM

Mathew’s embarrassed himself.

rob verdi on July 27, 2010 at 7:27 AM

The best is when Chrissy assumes in bad faith that Ryan will flat out appose the recommendations of the debt commission and Ryan responds with, “I am a member of the debt commission.” All Tingles can reply with is, “I know”. (In Dowdian fashion I heard an implicit, “boy” in there too.) When those recommendations come out he will either explicitly or implicitly endorse the recommendations. If he does not, he will be required to *explicitly* recuse himself from them. It’s not hard to figure out, Chris.

drocity on July 27, 2010 at 7:30 AM

I think rep. Crowley had a pretty compelling argument: It’s Bushes fault and their going to get serious about the deficit starting…….NOW. I’m going to have really consider that. OMG what a maroon.

toongoon on July 27, 2010 at 7:33 AM

Pay as you go? Are you kidding me?

Winebabe on July 27, 2010 at 7:41 AM

The more time goes by, I realize what an intellectual lightweight Tweety really is. I think him and Ed Schultz share the same IQ number……………

adamsmith on July 27, 2010 at 7:42 AM

Ryan is savy on the economic aspects of what’s so plainly wrong with this country.
Blow it out yer a$$.

BigWyo on July 26, 2010 at 11:42 PM

I shan’t argue with you and your giant intellect.

Sheerq on July 27, 2010 at 7:43 AM

Pay as you go???? How do these people actually say things like that????

momof2 on July 27, 2010 at 7:52 AM

Love this, Ryan gives specifics and and immediately after Matthews goes on a rant and demands specifics. The other Dem stooge just sits they smiling and then talks about America being great and “we have a plan” or something. Matthews rants againt Ryan again that he’s not giving specifics. Ryan again gives specifics. Matthews rants he needs specifics. What a joke.

JellyToast on July 27, 2010 at 6:28 AM

Exactly. You can see the inners of Matthew’s head – all he wants is to personally make news and trip up a respected Republican. He was just like an examiner giving oral boards to a candidate – as soon as they know that you know what you are talking about with a tough question – they say “OK” and move on to the next question to try to get you to fail. No wonder the Democrat had a grin on his face the whole interview – he might as well have been interviewed-grilled by his grandma.

Marcus on July 27, 2010 at 7:53 AM

Deficit reduction is an issue that is not going to get any party anywhere. The last time serious action was aimed at deficit spending was back in the 90s when the repubs threatened to shut down the government until such time as funding was found to pay for it. The dems pounced on that like a hawk on a mouse and repubs were successfully branded as “mean sprited”. Since that point, neither party has proposed any meaningful budget deficit reduction measures.

As long as money can be borrowed or printed without immediately obvious negative reprecussions, spending will continue unabated, along with the growth of the defecit. Both major parties have been, and will continue to be complicit bankrupting this nation.

oakland on July 27, 2010 at 8:00 AM

Sarah Palin doesn’t scare the left. This guy does.

Infidoll on July 26, 2010 at 10:46 PM

SP doesn’t scare the left? What are you smokin’?

disa on July 27, 2010 at 8:13 AM

rockmom on July 26, 2010 at 11:21 PM

Preach it, rockmom. I’m frustrated by conservative “purity tests”.

We’re like a bunch of middle-aged women, lonely and desperate, but picking on a great guy because he was fifteen minutes late for the date….even though he brought roses and washed his car.

We haven’t time for this “purity test” garbage. In the search for perfect, we’re going to miss the good enough that would save our Republic.

Grace_is_sufficient on July 27, 2010 at 9:01 AM

We need to emphasize ideas and not personalies. The ideas are eternal but it’s futile to wait for the “perfect” spokesman. A Reagan (or an Obama) comes along rarely. Don’t let the good be the enemy of the pefect.

Drained Brain on July 27, 2010

When the “good” is just a slower march to statism, then the “good” is not good at all and we are wise to reject it. The Republicans have portrayed themselves as good relative to the Democrats. Thus far, their goals have been the same; big, powerful government at the cost of individual liberty with the ruling class dominant in perpetuity.
Those Republicans who are truly “good” (small government, fiscal restraint, more liberty – not less) will be known to us. The statist Republicans (McCain, Graham, Romney, etc.) are already known to us. That they are better than the Democrats is undeniable, but are they “good”? I think not.
Bush was “good” relative to Gore or Kerry, but he still shifted the window toward bigger government and paved the way to make Obama appear qualified (yes, the media was whore number one in that fabrication). Am I glad for Alito and Roberts and tax cuts? Yes, but it doesn’t change the fact that Bush loved big government and wanted, and got, more of it. A true small-government conservative would not have made an Obama so palatable, even with the media’s complicity.

Extrafishy on July 27, 2010 at 9:13 AM

heh. It was fun watching Chrissy struggle to have something intelligent to sat back to Ryan.

dissent555 on July 27, 2010 at 9:20 AM

Ryan is awesome.

If conservatives wish to restore the country instead of just hold power, we need to have people in the right places, not just promote people to the most powerful places.

I’m not sure where Ryan’s best place is, but he needs to be nentrusted with policy authority by more powerful people.

Definitely a good candidate for an administration appointee when the time comes.

rasqual on July 27, 2010 at 9:36 AM

Tingles aside,
Congressman Crowley, you’re doing a splendid job in NY.
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States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

1. New Jersey ($0.62)
2. Connecticut ($0.64)
3. New Hampshire ($0.68)
4. Nevada ($0.73)
5. Illinois ($0.77)
6. Minnesota ($0.77)
7. Colorado ($0.79)
8. Massachusetts ($0.79)
9. California ($0.81)
10. New York ($0.81)

diogenes on July 26, 2010 at 11:01 PM

Let’s give those put-upon blue states a federal tax holiday for 5 years. They’d still be going down the crapper.

ddrintn on July 27, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Gosh darnit!

I just love Paul Ryan, I wish I could vote for him…. Twice (I’m from Chicago)

Sinner on July 27, 2010 at 10:04 AM

If conservatives wish to restore the country instead of just hold power, we need to have people in the right places, not just promote people to the most powerful places. – rasqual on July 27, 2010 at 9:36 AM

A very wise point, very well said.

I may wish to quote you on that in the future, if that’s ok.

And though Ryan seems to be a wonderfully self-starting dynamo & unlike many of his legislator colleagues shows some genuine leadership by aggressively advancing innovative ideas in the vanguard of everyone else, he’s still a legislator & we probably ought to make sure he’s got a proven executive skill set before promoting him to the most demanding executive position on the planet.

leilani on July 27, 2010 at 10:09 AM

Sorry Palin lovers, but she can’t debate like that. Try picturing her in the exact same Chris Matthews segment. She would have been shredded.

I don’t care if Paul Ryan has said he’s not interested. He would be receptive to being drafted.

RYAN 2012!!

HDFOB on July 27, 2010 at 10:57 AM

I could not understand a word of what Rep. Crowley said. Was he speaking English or was did he have a lozenge in his mouth?

warden on July 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM

Here is why Matthews wanted to shift the topic to cuts in SS:

Pelosi and the Democrats are going to try to ride fears about a Ryan-style privatization plan for Social Security to victory — or not-so-bad defeat — this November. Reid has already run ads attacking Sharron Angle on Social Security, Talking Points Memo has circulated videos of Rand Paul supporting privatization in old interviews, and a new front group released a poll July 15 showing that Americans don’t like the idea of “reforming” Social Security in order to reduce the deficit. (Note how closely Pelosi’s remarks track this poll.)

The more President Bush talked about privatizing Social Security, the less voters liked it. They are not going to like it any more now that the stock market has collapsed and so many have lost half or more of their portfolios.

Warning, warning, warning.

Maggie Gallagher links in the observation to how the Dems want to “frame the debate” as we head into the 2010 election.

onlineanalyst on July 27, 2010 at 11:03 AM

And though Ryan seems to be a wonderfully self-starting dynamo & unlike many of his legislator colleagues shows some genuine leadership by aggressively advancing innovative ideas in the vanguard of everyone else, he’s still a legislator & we probably ought to make sure he’s got a proven executive skill set before promoting him to the most demanding executive position on the planet.

Well he was the president of his own consulting firm, which of course, gives him more executive experience than the guy sitting in the hot seat right now.

cpaulus on July 27, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Extrafishy on July 27, 2010 at 9:13 AM

Why are you arguing with yourself?

Vince on July 27, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Sorry Palin lovers, but she can’t debate like that. Try picturing her in the exact same Chris Matthews segment. She would have been shredded.

I don’t care if Paul Ryan has said he’s not interested. He would be receptive to being drafted.

RYAN 2012!!

HDFOB on July 27, 2010 at 10:57 AM

LOL…the “Anybody but Palin!!!” thing is reallllly going to be a winner. Go for it. Let’s see how it turns out.

ddrintn on July 27, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Matthews is just a bloated, overstuffed schlub who seemingly studied his economics at the same place as Obamarrhoid. I’m reasonably certain he makes well over $250,000 a year and doesn’t mind paying a little more to witness the further destruction of the nation’s economy. I don’t have the exact number but it’s something like 5% pay 80% of the taxes. I’m not sure how punishing successful people is advisable. Congress just voted themselves ANOTHER raise! You won’t get your COLA, it just goes on. There are two places to start cutting spending, the first being Congress and the other is foreign aid. Why are we paying for the rest of the the non-producing world? Cutting Social Security,Medicare and defense spending is simply more punishment. I personally feel that anyone receiving any kind of government pension should be given their choice of the pension or SS but not both. Could be a few dollars there. Same goes for union pensions. Anyway,Matthews is incapable of caring one way or the other – he’s just a liberal goon.

LarryG on July 27, 2010 at 11:50 AM

I love Ryan. He does a really good job clearly explaining the issues. He has the patience of a saint with Chrissy in this clip.

bitsy on July 27, 2010 at 12:27 PM

I absolutely love Ryan. Smart and focused. I don’t know if he would serve this country better as a behind the scenes guy like Newt or as President, but I would vote, contribute and canvass for the guy.

uskorea on July 27, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Why are you arguing with yourself?

Vince on July 27, 2010 at 11:14 AM

You have to help me out here. How was I arguing with myself?
My point was that “good” is a relative term and being “good” compared to a Democrat is not necessarily good in the long run if you end up in the same place, just more slowly.

Extrafishy on July 27, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Chris is full of talking points (and BS) but Paul Ryan knows what he is talking about. The Dems trot out Clinton and his surpluses but it was only because the Repubs forced him out of his game plan. If Repubs had stayed true to their fiscal promise they would have reined in GWB and we wouldn’t be in this mess and there would have been no TARP etc.

Herb on July 27, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Ryan is so over Chrisie’s head its almost embarrassing.

RedbonePro on July 27, 2010 at 12:52 PM

When the “good” is just a slower march to statism, then the “good” is not good at all and we are wise to reject it.

Am I glad for Alito and Roberts and tax cuts? Yes, but it doesn’t change the fact that Bush loved big government and wanted, and got, more of it.

That they are better than the Democrats is undeniable, but are they “good”? I think not.

It sounds like you were trying to work this all out in your own mind. I will take the “squishy” Republican every time over a democrat and try to make the Republican where his best interests lie. It’s too difficult to try to make a democrat “moderate”.

Vince on July 27, 2010 at 1:40 PM

I’m not sure where Ryan’s best place is, but he needs to be nentrusted with policy authority by more powerful people.

Definitely a good candidate for an administration appointee when the time comes.

Then, leave him in the House where the power of the purse strings resides. He should be the Chairman of Ways and Means. Putting him in a cabinet post would be a huge mistake. Sarah Palin in a powerful policy position in the administration; now that, I like.

College Prof on July 27, 2010 at 2:09 PM

Still haven’t met the conservative who knows how to have dialogues with people like Matthews.

Sorry, Ryan ain’t the man.

rrpjr on July 26, 2010 at 11:10 PM

I don’t think it is humanly possible to have a dialog with a leftist. They constantly move the goal posts, and if you try to nail them down to something they just change the topic.

Sample dialog with crazy lib sister in Seattle:

Lib Sis: “Republicans are evil and want to raise your taxes! You should support the Democrats because we are the ones who are trying to help the middle class.”

Me: “Really? Tell me which piece of legislation they’ve passed or even introduced to cut my taxes so I can read it.”

Lib Sis: “Republicans hate brown people!”

Me: “Do they have a plan up on one of their websites I can read?”

Lib Sis: “Republicans don’t want any of their money to help poor people or people who don’t look like them! You are delusional and mentally unstable!”

Me: “Have a nice day.”

This is an only somewhat bowdlerized version of a real converstion (it sure wasn’t a “dialog”) I had with her a while back when we were still speaking. And it’s probably the closest thing to a “dialog” I’ve ever been able to have with her.

LibraryGryffon on July 27, 2010 at 2:12 PM

Am I the only person who would love to see Palin endorse Ryan for the presidency and then see Ryan, as president, endorse Palin to chair the RNC?

cpaulus on July 27, 2010 at 2:13 PM

Forecast: I read the article and I am giddy with the palate cleanser I expect I am gonna get. I bet when I am done, Paul Ryan’s job will be done.

To question above: Because he’s been treated better at PMSNBC, but with another host, just as despicable.

ProudPalinFan on July 27, 2010 at 2:29 PM

Also, what was Matthews writing with, a giant felt marker? I could hear every single squeak.

Weight of Glory on July 26, 2010 at 10:31 PM

Don’t tell me he was pulling a Rove! XD Chrissy deserved his own booth at ComicCon. He could have whisked that whiteboard at the very end, with the goal of diminishing the cast of The Avengers.

ProudPalinFan on July 27, 2010 at 2:46 PM

Paul Ryan is the only politician that I can think of that I trust implicitly. And I am a cynical, skeptical, bad person.

cynccook on July 26, 2010 at 10:22 PM

ROFL…yeah because he would never vote for big government programs once the GOp has power again. Not again like he voted for medicare part d, TARP, the auto bailouts, and taking the bonuses away from AIG.

Paul Ryan is only a conservative at this moment in time because it is politcally sound to be a conservative during a wave election. Do not let him fool you with his talk look at his record.

unseen on July 27, 2010 at 2:46 PM

LibraryGryffon on July 27, 2010 at 2:12 PM

the only way to debate a liberal is to have strong core beliefs and do not sway from them no matter how the liberal tries to change the subject. angle and rand made the mistake to allow the liberal viewpoint to have a foundation. Angle should have stuck to her guns and explained why the government getting 15% of your pay and spending it as soon as they get it and placing into the general fund is not the way to secure your retirement.

Paul Rand should have debated Maddow why the government should not have the power to decide who the private sector fires and hires. how it impacts production, productivity, how it causes reverse racism etc etc.

the reason GOP has problems debating liberals is the GOP do not really belief in the conservative message and simply say things to get elected. Thus when confronted with those talking points they fold to the liberal view.

unseen on July 27, 2010 at 2:51 PM

unseen on July 27, 2010 at 2:46 PM

And let me guess who you really admire? Hmmmm….who could it be?

Well, I’ll let Paul Ryan explain in his own words: http://dailycaller.com/2010/02/14/paul-ryan-explains-his-votes-for-tarp-auto-bailouts-and-tax-on-aig-bonuses/

Now I know he’ll never come out with a push to dissolve the Fed or a plan to have the U.S. begin using shiny pebbles in place of money, but you know what? I still think Ryan’s a good guy.

cynccook on July 27, 2010 at 2:59 PM

Wow. Chris is a tool. Ryan answers his question, gives him specifics AND because he’s not suggesting cutting Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security benefits it really DOESN’T count as deficit reduction.

Well, Chrissy… You just laid your Carter Administration Economic Golden Egg! Based on this bit of tripe we see in clear evidence that Democrats believe that the only way you lower deficits is by either (1) increasing taxes back to Pres. Carters 75% levels, or (2) cut health care and/or retirement benefits. No other discretionary or non-discretionary spending is allowed to be cut because Democratic coffers and pet projects are sacrosanct! Good job there, Mr. Matthews, of describing Democrat Politician’s Econ 101 philosophy of screwing up any United States business, and increasing unemployment and by offshoot increasing government (read: Democratic) dependency. Brilliant philosophy. Can’t you Liberals see how brilliant you all are?

Sultry Beauty on July 27, 2010 at 3:28 PM

And if what I wrote is too complicated for you Liberals to understand, let me simplify it for you: We pay for deficit spending by taking it out of hard working American pockets in ever increasing quantities because the Government Beast must be fed. YEAH SUCKA! AT THE BUTT OF A GUN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT! YO!

Sultry Beauty on July 27, 2010 at 3:33 PM

unseen on July 27, 2010 at 2:51 PM

The problem is that you can only have a true dialog if BOTH parties actually will listen to the other. And it’s been my experience that the left will not listen. They are right and if you don’t agree with them you are sick or evil. On the rare occasion that what you say does sneak through, they can’t defend their position against it (usually because their position is indefensible), and so their only other response is further ad hominems.

Or to quote the aforementioned sister attacking one of my facebook friends, a woman whom she has never met or conversed with in any way: “I don’t know you so I’m inclined to impugn your intelligence”.

Yeah, that will really convince us that what we believe is wrong, make us see the light, and convert us to the one true religion.

I’ve asked for specifics after giving mine. I’ve asked for reasons why the policies she espouses will work better than mine, or for that matter at all after trying to explain why I think conservative ones are better. And ALL she ever responds with is personal attacks or changing the subject. Exactly like Matthews does. I’d say it was like the old adage about trying to teach pigs to sing, except that I suspect you’d have more luck with that than with having a true dialog with the average leftie. And the pig would be better company.

LibraryGryffon on July 27, 2010 at 4:13 PM

I love Paul Ryan and I think his heart is in the right place. He would be a great candidate for a future speaker of the house in a Palin administration. Imagine what reforms they would institute!

alwaysfiredup on July 27, 2010 at 4:18 PM

Paul Ryan knows how to handle the mindless idiocy of the one-party press. I hate to admit it, but this is a necessary (but not sufficient) characteristic of any candidate, and Sarah Palin lacks it.

Paul Ryan for President. Or something.

philwynk on July 27, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Ouch. Matthews is in trouble with the DNC and I bet they hold his check this week.

He almost allowed Ryan to blow a big hole in the dem talking point that the republicans have no plan and are nothing more than the party of no.

Rod on July 27, 2010 at 6:18 PM

And maybe because he didn’t suspect (as I certainly did not) that President Bush (and then Obama) would abuse it by, e.g., bailing out GM and Chrysler?

edshepp on July 27, 2010 at 12:21 AM

If you didn’t expect it, you haven’t been paying attention.

Aquateen Hungerforce on July 27, 2010 at 8:48 PM

Ryan is the best of our side.

HellCat on July 28, 2010 at 12:00 AM

Matthews was virtualy silent compared to his usual spittle frothing performances. The man needs a bib and his guests should demand goggles and masks. The man is a biohazard!

Ryan kept his cool even tho I do think Matthews used the word “bitching,” if I am correct. I guess he was really describing himself.

Good job Ryan!

Matthews cannot compete at Ryan`s level. That much is clear.

He wins on spittle hands down tho`!

Sherman1864 on July 28, 2010 at 5:48 AM

I love Ryan, but we tend to want to rush people… let him marinate and refine and get even better.

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papa_giorgio

Kinda like Illinois State Senators fast tracked to the US Senate and the White House…

StevefromMKE on July 28, 2010 at 7:58 AM

Matthews makes a valid point. For all the talk from Tea Party conservatives and Republicans about being against big government and against big spending and against “socialism,” virtually none of them are serious about actually cutting spending and unconstitutional government programs and entitlements.

In fact, as far as medicare and social security goes, these people (Ryan included) are trying to SAVE these costly, unconstitutional government behemoths, not dismantle them. Ryan’s website itself boasts of plans that would supposedly save such “critical program(s)” as medicare/medicaid and social security. And what do the conservative Hot Air commenters think about that? They love Ryan! He’s the new conservative wunderkid!

No, what Paul Ryan is is an anti-constitution socialist, just like 99% of the people who comprise today’s mainstream conservative “movement.” He believes in big, unconstitutional government, socialized medicine, and government handouts. But because Ryan is a so-called conservative Republican, he’s a good guy and so must be praised, while Matthews who’s a liberal Democrat is an idiot who never says anything true.

Newsweek was right: We are all socialists now. It’s only a question of which party’s brand of socialism is going to win out. Go Republicans!

I’m so glad that after the disaster that was George W. Bush conservatives have finally learned their lesson. /sarcasm.

2Brave2Bscared on July 28, 2010 at 10:33 AM

Ryan is the best of our side.

HellCat on July 28, 2010 at 12:00 AM

If true, that only proves that your “side” is not a whole lot better than that other side.

I’m still waiting for the Constitutionalist, anti-socialism “side” to emerge. I’m sure as hell not getting that from Ryan and his corrupt Republican/conservative ilk.

2Brave2Bscared on July 28, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Ryan did great, especially considering the clearly hostile environment. He sounded capable and brilliant and the other two looked and sounded like schmucks.

Minorcan Maven on July 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM

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