Quotes of the day

posted at 10:55 pm on July 26, 2010 by Allahpundit

Now, in the latest revelations from the Journolist archives, The Daily Caller reprints Journolist emails regarding Trig. And obsessed with Trig they were, filling 15 screens in The Daily Caller post…

[T]he focus was on whether to jump on the bandwagon promoted by Andrew Sullivan and many others that Trig was Sarah’s grandchild not child, and that Bristol Palin was the real mother. As documented here before, this was a very widespread point of attack immediately after Sarah was nominated, and by no means limited to Andrew Sullivan.

Some of the comments, to be fair, were benign and even protective. For example, Mark Kleiman of the Reality Based Community [sic] was all in favor of attacking Sarah on numerous points, but warned others “But leave the kid alone.” Ezra Klein, founder of the Journolist, wrote: “By all accounts she’s a wonderful mother, and devoted to her fifth son [sic]. Leave this be.”

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It’s tough to fittingly describe these numerous members of the mainstream media who actively engaged in the debate about this conspiracy back when I was first introduced as John McCain’s running mate, and it’s impossible to legitimize any “prominent” media publication that continues to traffic in this bizarre narrative today. It wasn’t just a few fringe characters in that JournoList discussion. It included writers for major newspapers, magazines, and online news publications. Those participating in this immature exchange in attempts to plant seeds of doubt and falsely accuse even included a famous historian.

This JournoList exchange exposes the warped nature of today’s media, thus explaining why many of us are forced, in fairness to the public, to utilize other mediums to communicate until the mainstream media wakes up and begins respecting the public’s intelligence and desire for truth in reporting. There is a sickness and darkness in today’s liberal media. With revelations like the JournoList exchanges, may the light keep shining to expose the problem.

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By the way, the conspiring on the right goes beyond this: The Daily Caller appears to be deliberately picking subjects from J-List threads that will get it maximum pickup from the conservative media — and right-leaning outlets are obliging.

The Daily Caller builds stories by cherry-picking from threads about Fox News and Rush Limbaugh — and gets rewarded with pickup on Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. It does a story transforming J-List discussion about Sarah Palin into “coordination,” and Palin — who’s fast becoming a media figure in her own right — responds by giving it a big push herself. And on and on.

The real story here is that right wing media are engaged in a coordinated, conspiratorial effort to pretend that J-List proves that there is a Vast Left-wing Media Conspiracy, when the evidence conclusively shows otherwise.


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Mark Kleiman
Aug 30, 2008, 1:03am
Absolutely don’t touch it.
Hit her on bringing the cameras when she visited the wounded warriors. That’s fair game, and that will hurt with her base.

Gosh, the jealous non-lover of Mr. Husband, Mark Kleiman, wanting to destroy the reproducing female…”hurt her”…”with her base” (“base” is Mark Kleiman’s reference subliminally or otherwise to Husband, supporter, strength).

These Journolisters are just wuss’s, very sick wuss’s trying to destroy…presto…THE FAMILY: wife, husband, happiness, children (even ones with an illness).

Their target, when all is said and done, is the human race. Proof that the Left is, indeed, anti-social. So is their politician, Obama, so it’s no wonder they were so keen on lying on his behalf to get the White House.

“get the…House…” — think about that. House, home, family, married couple, happy America…

I’m quite serious here.

Lourdes on July 27, 2010 at 5:47 AM

I quote, again, Mr. Kleiman:

Mark Kleiman
Aug 30, 2008, 1:03am
Absolutely don’t touch it.
Hit her

Lourdes on July 27, 2010 at 5:48 AM

The real story here is that right wing media are engaged in a coordinated, conspiratorial effort to pretend that J-List proves that there is a Vast Left-wing Media Conspiracy, when the evidence conclusively shows otherwise.

Riigght, *it’s all the Right’s fault.*

/sarc.

Lourdes on July 27, 2010 at 5:50 AM

It is interesting to think back to John Ziegler’s documentary now that the Journolist e-mails are being exposed and realize how much of a sham the 2008 election coverage was. The drive-bys will never live this down. The fact that Obama is a complete disaster as President only makes it worse.

Doughboy on July 26, 2010 at 11:08 PM

And, THUS, goes where these ongoing crooked Journolisters are going: blame the Right.

It’s not about Obama being a disaster in the Presidency (or otherwise), it’s not about them exercising deplorable lack of ethics (or, rather, exercising utterly corrupt ethics), it’s not about them, it’s about ‘THE RIGHT’….

That’s essentially why I identify the Journolisters as “wuss’s” or otherwise, as cowards. Miserable, crying cowards. Truly, they give “human” a bad name, including this article linked in this post here.

It’s pathetic desperation to blame others for their own, obvious, bad and amoral behavior. It doesn’t get any more cowardly than that.

Lourdes on July 27, 2010 at 5:56 AM

I think it’s called “Insecurity”. You’ve heard of the Napolean Complex, have you not? There are several varieties of disorders of the mind that involve personal physiology of a reproductive (or lack thereof) nature, and I’m trying to be delicate here in my choice of words.

The Journolisters continue, in my view, to be revealed to be sick people, yes, but motivated by some sort of unnatural obsession that very likely as not relates to their concept of “control” or, rather, their inability to manage it.

Lourdes on July 27, 2010 at 5:42 AM


The Anchoress had some similar thoughts
.

Quisp on July 27, 2010 at 6:00 AM

It’s not about Obama being a disaster in the Presidency (or otherwise), it’s not about them exercising deplorable lack of ethics (or, rather, exercising utterly corrupt ethics), it’s not about them, it’s about ‘THE RIGHT’….

That’s essentially why I identify the Journolisters as “wuss’s” or otherwise, as cowards. Miserable, crying cowards. Truly, they give “human” a bad name, including this article linked in this post here.

It’s pathetic desperation to blame others for their own, obvious, bad and amoral behavior. It doesn’t get any more cowardly than that.

Lourdes on July 27, 2010 at 5:56 AM

spot on L

cmsinaz on July 27, 2010 at 6:02 AM

The real story here is that right wing media are engaged in a coordinated, conspiratorial effort to pretend that J-List proves that there is a Vast Left-wing Media Conspiracy, when the evidence conclusively shows otherwise.

Na nananana! We don’t have a conspiracy—-you do!

third grade arguments.

ted c on July 27, 2010 at 6:09 AM

Here’s the problem:

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
–Edmund Burke

Way, way, way too much of American journalism has been hijacked and needs a good scrubbing. Being liberal is one thing, being dishonest is another.

ncborn on July 27, 2010 at 6:26 AM

As has been mentioned earlier, “Unofficial Campaign.”

This QOTD just highlights the worst aspects of the mudslinging segment of said campaign- or at least the worst “cherry-picked” examples so far.

If there is any justice, any “journalist” on this list, who knew what was being discussed in this “confidential” setting was setting the tone in the Presidential campaign of 2008 and assisted/remained silent, will have a pink slip and never have a job at a “reputable” news organization again.

Hey, a guy can dream….

cs89 on July 27, 2010 at 6:42 AM

It doesn’t matter if Ezra said leave this be. He is still looking for angles.

tomas on July 27, 2010 at 7:13 AM

The Daily Caller builds stories by cherry-picking from threads about Fox News and Rush Limbaugh — and gets rewarded with pickup on Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. It does a story transforming J-List discussion about Sarah Palin into “coordination,” and Palin — who’s fast becoming a media figure in her own right — responds by giving it a big push herself. And on and on.

Which is another way of saying the DC cherrypicks stories their readers will be most interested in.

Since when was that journalistic malfeasance?

S. Weasel on July 27, 2010 at 7:49 AM

Way, way, way too much of American journalism has been hijacked and needs a good scrubbing. Being liberal is one thing, being dishonest is another.

ncborn on July 27, 2010

I fully understand your point, but since I regard liberalism as a lie, in and of itself, how can I believe in an honest liberal? That they believe their lies doesn’t make the lies themselves more honest. It only makes them fools.

Extrafishy on July 27, 2010 at 8:14 AM

During the 2008 Elections,with the so called vandalism
at Liberal campaign offices,as well as stories of racism,
and with the latest revelations of coordination,with
Journolists.

Just cross-check the names against the stories,during that
period,and along with the googling,Doug Ross was already a
step ahead!!
===================================================

Heres the story I googled:

Racist Incidents Give Some Obama Campaigners Pause

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/05/13/ST2008051301359.html?sid=ST2008051301359
———————-
And,

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/07/trip-through-archives-what-kind-of.html

elaborates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on July 27, 2010 at 8:22 AM

The real story here is that right wing media are engaged in a coordinated, conspiratorial effort to pretend that J-List proves that there is a Vast Left-wing Media Conspiracy, when the evidence conclusively shows otherwise.

Conclusively? Oh, I don’t know about that, champ.

Leave it to the lefties to whine about conservative “coordination”, when TDC and conservative blogs are just discussing a story that the MSM doesn’t want to ever report on, and wouldn’t, if it had its way.

Vyce on July 27, 2010 at 8:46 AM

They’re just mad because they got caught.

College Prof on July 27, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Biased plagiarism.

rlwo2008 on July 27, 2010 at 8:52 AM

Can we paint all Journalists with this brush yet, as the Washington Post is using their brand to defend Journalist.

Yes…whine…but…he waited until the 10th paragraph to say that Ezra thought that was a bad idea…Whaaaaaaaaaa…that’s not faaaiiirrrr.

Barak H Obama! Did these tards ever make it past 3rd grade? Is this what we get for drugging a generation of boys, while growing up? Or is it what we get for the endless self-esteem training? This generation now about 30ish really has some issues in the being an adult, department.

MNHawk on July 27, 2010 at 9:12 AM

From a damage perspective, the Daily Caller is handling this in a way that causes the most damage. With the daily releases, damage control can’t really have any effect. Each time they start to plug the hole, another hit gets made and a new hole appears.

If the Daily Caller had done this by releasing the entire archive at once, we would already be in the “nothing to see here” phase.

Well played!

MTinMN on July 27, 2010 at 10:42 AM

But way down in the 13th paragaraph, the story quotes a post from the very same thread in which J-List founder and Post blogger Ezra Klein excplicitly rules out any such coordination:

Ezra Klein of the Washington Post, the founder of Journolist, quickly jumped in: “Nope, no message coordination. I’m not even sure that would be legal. This is a discussion list, though, and I want it to retain that character,” he wrote.

In other words, the headline on this story could have been: “J-List founder ruled out conspiracy.”

Other Greg Sargent scoops throughout history.

“Nixon claims self not crook, could not be involved in shady deals”.

“Enron CEO states accounting practices perfectly clean, nothing to see here”.

“Clinton denies extramarital affair; so claims otherwise must be false”.

See if there’s a question; he asks the ringleader if there’s anything hinky or conspiratorial; and if they deny it… he’s got his story. Impressive Journalism skills he’s got there… just scary-good.

gekkobear on July 27, 2010 at 11:20 AM

From a damage perspective, the Daily Caller is handling this in a way that causes the most damage. With the daily releases, damage control can’t really have any effect. Each time they start to plug the hole, another hit gets made and a new hole appears.

If the Daily Caller had done this by releasing the entire archive at once, we would already be in the “nothing to see here” phase.

Well played!

MTinMN on July 27, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Nope, too fast. The Breitbart method is more like Chinese water torture than waterboarding. Carlson should space these out further, so just when the kerfuffle appears to be dying out, it flares up again. We need this to last until the election. I doubt if there’s that much material there.

slickwillie2001 on July 27, 2010 at 12:28 PM

By the way, the conspiring on the right goes beyond this: The Daily Caller appears to be deliberately picking subjects from J-List threads that will get it maximum pickup from the conservative media — and right-leaning outlets are obliging.

The Daily Caller builds stories by cherry-picking from threads about Fox News and Rush Limbaugh — and gets rewarded with pickup on Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. It does a story transforming J-List discussion about Sarah Palin into “coordination,” and Palin — who’s fast becoming a media figure in her own right — responds by giving it a big push herself. And on and on.

The real story here is that right wing media are engaged in a coordinated, conspiratorial effort to pretend that J-List proves that there is a Vast Left-wing Media Conspiracy, when the evidence conclusively shows otherwise.

Do I understand correctly that the above quoted paragraphs are Allahpundit’s writing and not his reprint of lefty drivle? It sounds an awful lot like lefty drivle…I sure hope it’s not what AP actually thinks.

dczombie on July 27, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Nevermind, WaPo reprint. That wasn’t clear in the original post by AP.

dczombie on July 27, 2010 at 12:35 PM

I found it interesting that not only were the birther types ready to jump to that conclusion but also how many just assumed had it been Bristol’s child that she’d of course have wanted an abortion and been prevented from doing so by her mother.

It’s also interesting how a friend and (at the time) Obama supporter referred to Sarah Palin’s having so many kids in a disparaging manner as though it were indicative she were trailer trash – this friend and his wife have one less child than the Palins. He also referred to “her daughter the pincushion”. I wonder if all women he approves of waited until marriage?

RDuke on July 27, 2010 at 2:15 PM

Greg Sargent slays me. Well if the guy who was on Journolist says they aren’t a conspiratorial buncha dirtbags, then it MUST be true. Give it up. You’ve been EXPOSED.

The WaPo couldn’t find ANYONE to write something like this who didn’t have a dog in the fight? This is the equivalent of asking a KKK member whether or not it was appropriate to use the ‘N’ word when describing a black man and shouting ‘see, he said it was OK so you guys are dumb!’when the Klansmen gives the expected response.

MannyT-vA on July 27, 2010 at 6:44 PM

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