Netroots Nation straw poll: Lefties overwhelmingly want to face Palin in 2012

posted at 4:21 pm on July 26, 2010 by Allahpundit

Did someone here order the red meat?

In a straw poll of attendees at the Netroots Nation conference in Las Vegas over the weekend, 48 percent of respondents said they’d like to see Palin as the Republican Party’s 2012 nominee. Rep. Ron Paul came in a distant second, at 11 percent. Ten percent voted for Rick Santorum, 9 percent for Mitt Romney and 8 percent for Newt Gingrich. Seven percent chose Tim Pawlenty, while 5 percent said Mike Huckabee, and 1 percent said Rep. Mike Pence.

One name not on the list was Sen. John Thune of South Dakota. While he may not be on everyone’s radar for 2012, DNC executive director Jennifer O’Malley Dillon said at the Netroots conference this weekend that Thune was the potential 2012 GOP presidential candidate who scares her the most. “John Thune is somebody that I have nightmares about,” O’Malley Dillon said. “He has his head down and is doing some policy stuff.”

Thune would give them fits because they wouldn’t know how to define him. Same with Mitch Daniels, albeit to a lesser extent thanks to his Bush pedigree. With Palin, the DNC narrative is already set and, equally importantly, her name recognition is such that they could frame the election as a choice between two mega-stars, not a referendum on The One’s first term. That’s their strategy in November too, of course: If they run on their record they’re dead on arrival, no matter what the voices in Harry Reid’s head might be telling him, so they’re forced to push a “GOP is worse!” message that deflects attention onto their opponents. Hence the constant agonizing among the Republican House leadership about whether to endorse a specific conservative agenda for the midterms, which gives the Dems something concrete to attack, or whether to sell themselves more vaguely as candidates of, er, hope and change vis-a-vis Pelosi’s Democratic majority. If Sarahcuda’s the nominee, we get a real “A vs. B” choice election, not an “A vs. Not A” referendum as typically happens with incumbent presidents. That would be tons of fun to write about under any circumstance, but with two larger-than-life candidates like her and The One, it’d be blog paradise; it’d also have the party establishment, which is eager for a straightforward “anyone but Obama” campaign, breathing into paper bags. No wonder lefty bloggers are gung ho. And hey — just think how much fresh new Trig Truther material they must have saved up by now.

Further to the point, see PPP’s new poll on what’s happened to Kelly Ayotte in New Hampshire since Palin endorsed her. The bounce among Republican primary voters has coincided with a downturn among moderates, precisely the dynamic lefties are counting on to capture the center in an Obama/Palin race. We’ll see what happens with Fiorina, another Palin endorsee, in deep-blue California. At the moment, she’s still right in the thick of things.


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We need to show up support for everyone opposing the ratification of the START treaty. It has clearly gotten under the skin of President Obama which means it’s must be important that we stop this atrocity. This saga just got escalated to a whole new level.

President Obama has Lugar on his team, but the way so many things are now coming together is mind-boggling.

dnlchisholm on July 26, 2010 at 9:42 PM

dnlchisholm on July 26, 2010 at 9:42 PM

I hate START, but I don’t want Mittens for POTUS.

Jenfidel on July 26, 2010 at 10:02 PM

You build up weak links, so you can exploit them later on.
The Lefts actions in regard to Sarah Palin from the moment she arrived on the national scene strongly indicate they do not think of her as a weak link.

Sharr on July 26, 2010 at 10:08 PM

No, my liberal friends honestly do have contempt for Palin.

Which is bad for them, because it means they overlook her great skill at crystalizing an issue for large numbers of voters.

“Death panels” and “enemy-centric foreign policy” — they’re phrases I agree are accurate, but never would have thought of.

That’s her talent, and that’s why she’s a greater threat to them than they believe.

Good enough for us to go with in 2012? Well, she’ll get a hearing…

tigerinexile on July 26, 2010 at 10:30 PM

The nutters are just pretending to be brave. LOL!

Blake on July 26, 2010 at 10:40 PM

Remember – they fear her womb!!

Blake on July 26, 2010 at 10:40 PM

Blake on July 26, 2010 at 10:40 PM

LOL at both of those comments.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:02 PM

Sarah is UNIQUELY qualified to beat the tar out of Dear Reader the Lyin Pinnochio Presidente if he makes it that far. She has been as thoughroly vetted as is possible and still leads the pack!
She has an uncanny ability to speak and inspire! Vice Presidentaial acceptance speech had everyone including libs in awe.
She has the ability to bypass the Old Media and speak to the people precisely because she has been unfairly savaged by the JurnoListers and dinosaur media!

She thinks outside thebox and knows the best defense is a good offense, something MCcCain forgot or more likely never learned except when it came to conservative competition.

She knows the ins and outs of Big Oil and what it takes to negotiate and ramp up production to put Americans back to work and back on the road to prosperity!

Sarah is the ONLY one so uniquely qualified and that is precisely why the lefties savage her.

The nutroots are insane we all can see that Palin drives them to do foolish and self destoying things. Every attack will be met with skepticism and disgust, she will make sure of that!

dhunter on July 26, 2010 at 11:03 PM

dhunter on July 26, 2010 at 11:03 PM

THE NUTROOTS ARE INSANE

They are also Fascists. We must always be vigilant.

technopeasant on July 26, 2010 at 11:07 PM

Palin will run a populist theme and mean it! Cutting perks of office and pork, cutting extravagant vacations and payoffs for the politicos. Cutting entire duplicate and wasteful agencies and reigning in lobbyists.
She will promise to CUT government at a time when the people are fearing for their very livelyhood do to outrageous spending by Demrats and some Repubs, because of this the elitist Repubs will also oppose her but she will have the taxpayers eating out of her hand and willing to volunteer to make it happen I AM!

dhunter on July 26, 2010 at 11:09 PM

Hmmm.

Screw the moderates.

If they’re still willing to vote Democrat then this country is dead and stinking up the place.

Time to bury it and be done with it.

memomachine on July 26, 2010 at 11:15 PM

The NUTROOTS better start to worry about 2010. 2012 is where we get rid of more Democrats in the Senate, add to a majority in the house, and make sure that the President elected has no balls.

Highplains on July 26, 2010 at 11:17 PM

dhunter on July 26, 2010 at 11:09 PM

The genie is now out of the bottle: 46/46 with the Messiah in this month’s PPP poll. Palin is no longer unelectable.

Sarah will not self-destruct or be hoisted by her own petard. If she is destroyed it will be from the outside somehow (Levi and Bristol situation) or by some mole or spy penetrating her organization to spy on her or sabotage her campaign. That is why I hope and pray she surrounds herself with a cract team of politicos that understands Alinsky inside and out and does not allow her to fall prey to the attacks and traps her enemies from either the Left or the Right want to level at her or set for her.

technopeasant on July 26, 2010 at 11:21 PM

I hope they get their wish!

spen52 on July 27, 2010 at 12:02 AM

Palin is Hillary in the sense that her support is polarized. People love her or hate her. It’s hard to move people off those extreme positions. That was going to be hillary’s problem in the general election in 2008. 50% of people couldn’t stand her. This is Palin’s problem.

lorien1973 on July 26, 2010 at 5:05 PM

Blah, blah, blah.

Every great leader is “polarizing.” Again, nothing silly like this that is being said about Palin wasn’t also said about Reagan.

In reality, Sarah isn’t really polarizing so much as she is galvanizing. Again, this is like Reagan. By 2012 Sarah will have galvanized the nation against Obama.

2012 is her year, and it will be a landslide win. All of the stars are lining up perfectly.

As more of this journolist BS gets out there, the media will have no credibility about anything they say. Any media attack will be assumed BS from the start, at least among those with any semblance of intelligence.

The left has done her a huge favor.

gary4205 on July 27, 2010 at 12:11 AM

Well, netroots also voted for the guy who has ushered in their nightmare….Afghanastan….so it’s not like they have great judgment.

They think their snark remarks will continue to damage her. They haven’t figured out that they now look like the proverbial pig in the mud.

AnninCA on July 27, 2010 at 12:13 AM

gary4205 on July 27, 2010 at 12:11 AM

WHITE vote in 2012:

75%-76% of the electorate:

Obama 37%

Palin 61%

landslide victory

technopeasant on July 27, 2010 at 12:17 AM

2012 is her year, and it will be a landslide win. All of the stars are lining up perfectly.

Presumptuous, indeed

blatantblue on July 27, 2010 at 12:27 AM

This is a full on conspiracy-propaganda fest. Were the shoe on the other foot the Left (not that its not trying to turn it into it) would be screaming “Fascist”. Oh the irony.

We agree sometimes, but not on this. Why “white?”

What does that have to do with squat?

Honestly, I think people will vote their own self-interest, as it should be. And race will not necessarily be the defining factor.

AnninCA on July 27, 2010 at 12:36 AM

Presumptuous, indeed

blatantblue on July 27, 2010 at 12:27 AM

Of course, but I do think she’ll surprise everyone. Her story will be similar to the one last week with Sherrod.

She is absolutely going to cram down all the false stories about her into the throats of those who did the same thing to her.

I do predict that win, and right now, I’m betting it’s 80% chance that she’ll take down more than a few journalists while doing so.

I’m looking forward to seeing Couric handle this one.

AnninCA on July 27, 2010 at 12:39 AM

AnninCA on July 27, 2010 at 12:39 AM

Tooooo much time left to expire before the election.

So much can go wrong/right to make a judgement call like Gary, now.

blatantblue on July 27, 2010 at 12:43 AM

I’m looking forward to seeing Couric handle this one unemployed by 2012.

AnninCA on July 27, 2010 at 12:39 AM

FIFY.

Brian1972 on July 27, 2010 at 12:44 AM

This is a full on conspiracy-propaganda fest. Were the shoe on the other foot the Left (not that its not trying to turn it into it) would be screaming “Fascist”. Oh the irony.

We agree sometimes, but not on this. Why “white?”

What does that have to do with squat?

Honestly, I think people will vote their own self-interest, as it should be. And race will not necessarily be the defining factor.

AnninCA on July 27, 2010 at 12:36 AM

Proof that:
1. AnninCA is a bot
2. AnninCA is a moron
3. AnninCA is insane

There is no reason to believe that any or all of the above are true.

Inanemergencydial on July 27, 2010 at 12:44 AM

This is a full on conspiracy-propaganda fest. Were the shoe on the other foot the Left (not that its not trying to turn it into it) would be screaming “Fascist”. Oh the irony.

We agree sometimes, but not on this. Why “white?”

What does that have to do with squat?

Honestly, I think people will vote their own self-interest, as it should be. And race will not necessarily be the defining factor.

AnninCA on July 27, 2010 at 12:36 AM

I didn’t use the word “white” at all in my remark. What you pasted is from the Quote of the Day thread actually…

Sharr on July 27, 2010 at 12:46 AM

gary4205 on July 27, 2010 at 12:11 AM

WHITE vote in 2012:

75%-76% of the electorate:

Obama 37%

Palin 61%

landslide victory

technopeasant on July 27, 2010 at 12:17 AM

Oh yeah. I think she will get a large percentage of the Hispanic vote, and more of the black folk than most would think.

High 50′s low to mid 60′s for sure in the general.

Reagan won 44 states in 1980 and 49 in 1984. 2012 will be somewhere in between. Sarah will have a clear mandate when she takes office.

gary4205 on July 27, 2010 at 1:01 AM

I think the Soros detective agency has something on Thune.

eaglesdontflock on July 27, 2010 at 1:03 AM

gary4205 on July 27, 2010 at 1:01 AM

The Left never did like simplicity or simple math.

technopeasant on July 27, 2010 at 1:46 AM

Well, that’s the problem with the Big Lie technique. Eventually, the people using it start to believe it’s the truth. Many have convinced themselves that Palin really is stupid, and has no chance.

There Goes The Neighborhood on July 27, 2010 at 2:06 AM

Nutroots will say they want to run against Palin up until the time she wins – then they will scream about how terrible it was she even had the chance.

Yale and Harvard graduates only, please.

The left feels they have smeared her and can continue to smear her without facing any backlash – but I think they will find that Americans are waking up to their tactics.

If you weren’t aware of these tactics already the Jounolist story should open your eyes to reality.

Mr Purple on July 27, 2010 at 2:12 AM

Can I have what you’re smokin’? Palin is our Hillary. It’s that simple.

lorien1973 on July 26, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Simplistic, not simple.

Hillary, for all her supposed inevitability, is awful at politics. She’s also not much of a feminist, considering she never accomplished much on her own, and the only reason she was ever taken seriously was because her husband was the president.

On the other hand, at least she knows what it’s like to be under sniper fire……

There Goes The Neighborhood on July 27, 2010 at 2:40 AM

And at the end of the day, maybe she’ll win some of them over, but for most of them, MOST of them – that’s how she’s going to remain. No matter how many good speeches she gives. They don’t take her seriously. Which is why lefties ARE hoping that Palin is the nominee, because they did a damn fine job of destroying her reputation these past couple years, and there aren’t enough hearts and minds willing to change their opinion of her from that.

Vyce on July 26, 2010 at 8:10 PM

Dude. You’re missing the point entirely. You’ve decided she will NOT win them over. Already. Before she’s announced. Before ANYONE’S announced.

Let her run and let’s see how she does. She’ll either succeed or she’ll fail. And THEN we’ll know.

But I say again… to make this kind of pronouncement looks you look daft.

BTW… I noticed that article earlier on HA. Her poll numbers jumped from that “Momma Grizzlies” ad. That’s one commercial, where she’s promoting women conservatives running for office and isn’t even a candidate.

Let’s see how she does when she makes herself the focus and makes the case for herself and her ideas.

powerpro on July 27, 2010 at 2:55 AM

Let’s see how she does when she makes herself the focus and makes the case for herself and her ideas.

powerpro on July 27, 2010 at 2:55 AM

We’ve already heard it a thousand times. She’s constantly on TV and Facebook etc. making the case for her ideas. And most people already assume she’s running for president so what difference does it make whether she announced it yet or not?

Go RBNY on July 27, 2010 at 4:02 AM

We’ve already heard it a thousand times. She’s constantly on TV and Facebook etc. making the case for her ideas. And most people already assume she’s running for president so what difference does it make whether she announced it yet or not?

Go RBNY on July 27, 2010 at 4:02 AM

Because her role right now is to promote conservatism generally and other conservative candidates.

Her role is not about promoting herself or her own specific ideas.

People need to look into what she did in Alaska to win the governorship, including taking down Murkowski in a primary. She got over 50 percent in a three way race.

And if you saw the debates, she was very deep in the weeds.

Palin is a policy wonk when that’s her role. And if/when she announces and makes herself the focus of her promotion, then we’ll see if she’s able to make the case for her ideas and how she would specifically implement them.

powerpro on July 27, 2010 at 4:57 AM

Presumptuous, indeed

blatantblue on July 27, 2010 at 12:27 AM

No more presumptuous then believing Obama will be the Dem nominee in 2012. The way things are shaping up, after the November elections, the Dems may force him to step aside themselves.

Kevin71 on July 27, 2010 at 5:15 AM

Also… Go RBNY…

She’s been very successful thus far in the mission she’s undertaking.

Very few can dispute her successes this year. She’s taken people running poorly and boosted them into winning positions.

That tells me there’s an audience for her message. Currently that message is about supporting the right candidates for 2010 but next year, that message will change.

Is there any reason to think that the her power will lessen by then? Especially if she is viewed as a kingmaker?

I have yet to see anyone lay out what states McCain won that Palin would lose… or what states Bush won that Palin would not be competitive in.

I believe that if she continues on this path, she will be in great shape for 2012 because America is starving for the commonsense conservative message that Palin proudly embraces.

powerpro on July 27, 2010 at 5:28 AM

Anyone ever heard of the concept of “reverse psychology”?

Cylor on July 27, 2010 at 6:22 AM

Allahp,

Placing all responsibility of any candidate’s campaign upon Palin for giving an endorsement is DUMB.

Fred Thompson was just talking about how complex campaigning is, and how imperative to success that a candidate have the right manager and staff for the duration to the election.

maverick muse on July 27, 2010 at 6:47 AM

Anyone ever heard of the concept of “reverse psychology”?

Cylor on July 27, 2010 at 6:22 AM

I don’t think it’s reverse psychology.

I think it’s them believing that the caricature they made of her is accurate and they can beat that.

But it’s not accurate. They are underestimating her.

Like I and others said above…be careful what you wish for, Nutroots…you just might get it.

powerpro on July 27, 2010 at 7:02 AM

Fred Thompson was just talking about how complex campaigning is, and how imperative to success that a candidate have the right manager and staff for the duration to the election.

maverick muse on July 27, 2010 at 6:47 AM

I guess he would know, since his campaign was so brilliantly conceived and executed in 2008.

Brian1972 on July 27, 2010 at 7:42 AM

Seriously…….ANY GOPer will be the 2nd coming of SATAN!!!

Should we let the media decide the nominee?

PappyD61 on July 27, 2010 at 8:17 AM

It’s probably too early to tell, but the winner of the 2012 election will be the candidate who can boldly ask voters the Reagan question, “Are you better off now than you were four years ago?” If the nation says “H3ll No” after four years of Obama, but one state says “H3ll Yes” about their Governor, that Governor could be the next President.

Steve Z on July 26, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Just a News Flash: Only two states have actually increased employment during this recession/depression. North Dakota and … wait for it…. Alaska!

Guess those Sarahcuda policies seem to work pretty good after all.

‘Nuff said.

shmendrick on July 27, 2010 at 9:11 AM

No more presumptuous then believing Obama will be the Dem nominee in 2012. The way things are shaping up, after the November elections, the Dems may force him to step aside themselves.

Kevin71 on July 27, 2010 at 5:15 AM

And alienate the entire black vote?

I think not

blatantblue on July 27, 2010 at 9:47 AM

Sounds like the ressurection of the Biblical battle between David and Goliath. My bet is that Sarah swings a sling with the best they’ve got!

Don L on July 27, 2010 at 9:54 AM

The dem strategy for the next 100 years: Blame Bush!

nazo311 on July 27, 2010 at 10:43 AM

Jenfidel on July 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM

comments like that are the mirror image of the netroots. Do you not SEE that?

if you approach HRC supporters that way, MANY of us also support Sarah BTW, you WILL LOSE in 12 and afterward

you may hate us in the middle, but we swing the elections.

grow up

ginaswo on July 27, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Who are the disaffected Obama voters? White males and independents.

Palin vs Obama would hurt Obama

In a debate, Obama does not show well against Palin to the white males. Palin is pretty good a capella, and comes across as strong, not weak. Obama is already fighting his own image of weakness, and he will have to defend some stinking postions, like not calling in FEMA for the oil spill

Independents would have to be won but in this election, Palin gets to generate her own PR. She builds herself against Obama’s record, which stinks on the economy. THe jobs bills mainly hosed dollars to local government payrolls, at the expense of the already unemployed

Palin’s biggest problem would be controlling the RNC types at the convention from doing glam videos of happy political family leading to a new America. The convention would need be her new image builder and it has to skip the fluff and pretentious PR, and instead show a roll up the sleeves cost cutting job saver. To do that they have to be humble. That is the hard part.

The nation is suffering and a convention has to show empathy. That means it must be more like a battle convention to save the nation’s economy. They can’t be partying while the nation starves. And a good part of the nation will be starving and foreclosed by the next Presitdential, unoless we are in another war by then

Palin is smart enought o catch the nuance. Some of the other contenders think it is business like usual.

I give Jindal credit for showing some moxie on the oil spill. I wish he had defied the Feds and started building defenses on his own. He might have been stopped in the courts, but he would have gained in stature. If someone is drowning, no one expects you to wait for permission to save them. That moment was lost, but I wait to see if he has what it takes for the next moment to come.

Right now, the public needs proof of strength. Vacillating Senators and whining Governors do not win this next Presidential. Obama has Black Panthered himself into a corner, and there is great opportunity

entagor on July 27, 2010 at 11:46 AM

you may hate us in the middle, but we swing the elections.

grow up

ginaswo on July 27, 2010 at 11:37 AM

You also usually ride the bandwagon, otherwise you wouldn’t be in the middle. The middle doesn’t lead, it follows.

ddrintn on July 27, 2010 at 12:57 PM

You also usually ride the bandwagon, otherwise you wouldn’t be in the middle. The middle doesn’t lead, it follows.

ddrintn on July 27, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Regardless, elections are won by the base and middle working together. Alienating one other is bad politics.

alwaysfiredup on July 27, 2010 at 2:03 PM

Regardless, elections are won by the base and middle working together. Alienating one other is bad politics.

alwaysfiredup on July 27, 2010 at 2:03 PM

The middle usually follows whichever side is most fired up. Tailoring a message and image to suit only moderates equals Democrat victory.

ddrintn on July 27, 2010 at 2:21 PM

comments like that are the mirror image of the netroots. Do you not SEE that?

Nope, I do not.

if you approach HRC supporters that way, MANY of us also support Sarah BTW, you WILL LOSE in 12 and afterward

We won’t lose, because there are millions more women that are “feminists” like Sarah rather than FemiNazis like Hillary.
Sarah is pro-life.
Hillary is pro-abortion.
If you insist on supporting infanticide or are “pro-choice,” Sarah’s not your candidate.
The plain fact that both are women isn’t sufficient.

you may hate us in the middle, but we swing the elections.

grow up

ginaswo on July 27, 2010 at 11:37 AM

You grow up.
Supporting the murder of innocent babies and denying them the right to life is EVIL.
BTW, the majority of the American people are now against abortion on demand, so stop pretending you’re the majority “in the middle!”

Jenfidel on July 27, 2010 at 3:13 PM

Too bad they didn’t ask these lefties a few more questions, like:

Which GOP candidate do you think energizes their base the most effectively?

Which GOP candidate would step back the furthest from the advancement towards socialism achieved by Obama?

Which GOP candidate would you hate to see win?

Which GOP candidate drives you nuts and inspires you to stoop to unethical levels of slander and coordination with the DNC?

Mr Purple on July 27, 2010 at 8:51 PM

The only person we would rather see run on the Republican ticket would be Bush. Just imagine millions of Americans picturing in their minds Sarah Palin confronting Medvedev and Ahmadinejad and the Middle East and Al Qaeda. They’ll have visions of her pulling out her well-worn Old Testament and looking up the answers. Ha ha. Bring it on, to re-coin a phrase…

pm123 on July 27, 2010 at 10:44 PM

Just imagine millions of Americans picturing in their minds Sarah Palin confronting Medvedev and Ahmadinejad and the Middle East and Al Qaeda.

pm123 on July 27, 2010 at 10:44 PM

Um, if you’re an Obama supporter, I don’t think that would be a wise line of attack.

ddrintn on July 27, 2010 at 11:50 PM

Too bad they didn’t ask these lefties a few more questions, like:

Which GOP candidate do you think energizes their base the most effectively?

Mr Purple on July 27, 2010 at 8:51 PM

The base would be energized even if Olympia Snowe ran for President. The nutroots would “discover” that she was secretly Pro-Life and a Dick Cheney friend. I care more about energizing moderates who might have voted for Obama but realize they made a mistake.

Speedwagon82 on July 28, 2010 at 8:39 AM

With the MA legislature voting to give all its electoral votes to the popular vote winner, it would be sweet justice if Palin won the 2012 popular vote. It would be a collective nuclear head explosion coming out of Boston, Marthas Vineyard, Provincetown, Springfield etc. Not to mention the butt of jokes for years.

veni vidi vici on July 28, 2010 at 10:37 AM

I care more about energizing moderates who might have voted for Obama but realize they made a mistake.

Speedwagon82 on July 28, 2010 at 8:39 AM

I thought McCain was supposed to energize moderates. It’s strange that he never led in the polls until a conservative was on the ticket.

ddrintn on July 28, 2010 at 10:41 AM

This nonsense about eliminating the electoral college is just another leftie plot. The idea is to focus the election on the big cities and urban areas where the dems are strongest and eliminate the western and southern states where they are weakest. If this is on the agenda in your state it’s important to work against it.

MA dems have a history of shooting themselves in the foot in this regard, like they did with changing the rules as to how the next senator is choosen if someone dies in office (ie Teddy K.). It used to be the gov chose the senator but since that was Romney they changed it to having a special election, never imagining that someone like Brown would win.

shmendrick on July 28, 2010 at 6:49 PM

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