Mexico prison guards let inmates out for massacres
posted at 10:55 am on July 26, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Mexico likes to blame its gun violence on the US, and gun-control advocates love to repeat the canard that 90% the weapons in Mexico come from the US. (It’s actually less than 20%; more of them come from Mexican Army deserters.) They’ll have a little more trouble with that argument after this weekend. Mexico discovered that the perpetrators of several massacres are now behind bars, and were behind bars before the massacres — before prison guards let them out and armed them for their murderous rampages:
Guards and officials at a prison in northern Mexico allegedly let inmates out, lent them guns and allowed them to use official vehicles to carry out drug-related killings, including the massacre of 17 people last week, prosecutors said Sunday.
After carrying out the killings the inmates would return to their cells, the Attorney General’s Office said in a revelation that was shocking even for a country wearied by years of drug violence and corruption.
“According to witnesses, the inmates were allowed to leave with authorization of the prison director … to carry out instructions for revenge attacks using official vehicles and using guards’ weapons for executions,” office spokesman Ricardo Najera said at a news conference.
The gang at Gomez Palacio were responsible for 33 murders in three incidents, including the massacre of 17 people at a rented hall filled mainly with young adults. They fired more than 120 rounds into the crowd; it was the bullet casings that led investigators back to Gomez Palacio. The prison director and three of his henchmen have been placed under house arrest, although considering this story, that may wind up being more secure than prison anyway.
This should impress the truth on people, which is that the problem in Mexico isn’t American guns, or any kind of guns at all. The problem in Mexico is corruption. They are on their way to becoming a failed state, which is why the violence there spreads across the border — and why it’s all the more important for us to secure our side of it.
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This will be generally ignored. It doesn’t fit the meme.
Troika37 on July 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM
Civil war. Half of Mexican government is in the thugocracy and always have been.
borntoraisehogs on July 26, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Ay Caramba!…
angrywonk on July 26, 2010 at 10:59 AM
The border should be immediately sealed! No one in or out. What is it going to take for this administration to wake up ? Never mind I already know the answer…..
sandee on July 26, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Careless use of colloquialism, actually more like 90%.
borntoraisehogs on July 26, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Yeah, but see, these prisoners aren’t all that bad, after all, they did return to their jail cells. . .
Actually they went back to prison in order to be protected from revenge attacks.
So which government is more corrupt, Pakistan’s or Mexico’s?
rbj on July 26, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Coming to a border town near you. Coming up, how to save on your protection money. /s
Oil Can on July 26, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Bring back the French Foreign Legion, let them get a little revenge for Camerone.
In the meantime, open our own southern border wide and let the flood of people through, that will keep the world from calling us racist.
Bishop on July 26, 2010 at 11:02 AM
What are the gun laws in Mexico? Can citizens own guns?
Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Yeah, let’s face it guys. It’s time to annex Mexico. We have 2 choices now. Annex it, kill a bunch of criminals, spend a bunch of cash and turn it into a paradise or do nothing and let it devolve into Gaza. We aren’t going to close the border and all that will ever do is allow any half way decent person to run away and cause the problem to get worse.
Annex Mexico, clean it up and put it on a 50 year path toward statehood.
Rocks on July 26, 2010 at 11:03 AM
Mexico is already a failed state, and that the federal government has not secured and armed the border is a constitutional crisis so severe – that should have the border states thinking of leaving the union and doing it themselves.
Rebar on July 26, 2010 at 11:04 AM
Mexico needs a Tea Party movement: take back your country.
And do so rather than running into the US to replicate the same here. We have it bad enough with Obama.
BuckeyeSam on July 26, 2010 at 11:04 AM
Anybody living within 300 miles of the border that doesn’t own multiple weapons with plenty of ammo need to wake up to reality and ask themselves whether they want to be secure, because f**k knows the government ain’t gonna keep them safe.
MadisonConservative on July 26, 2010 at 11:06 AM
What do you mean “on their way to becoming a failed state”?
Mexico failed years ago man.
MadDogF on July 26, 2010 at 11:06 AM
I don’t think so. Mexican gun laws are very strict, as is the case in most lawless, corrupt countries.
year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 11:09 AM
You got that right. I live well within 300 miles of the Minnesota/Wisconsin border and I am armed to the teeth. If those Cheesehead whackjobs want to swarm over the border, I say bring it on.
Bishop on July 26, 2010 at 11:10 AM
Need gunships,up and down the US border,as an
equalizer,against prisoners,who get free armed
rampages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on July 26, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Uh-oh, Bob Schieffer is back from vacation. How will he duck this story?
scullymj on July 26, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Bulid the freaking fence already. Violence keeps going up, people are going to stop going there and the whole place is going to collapse.
WisCon on July 26, 2010 at 11:12 AM
Surprise!
Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:12 AM
Sorry, Ed. The problem is corruption, fueled by cartel drug money which is created in turn by the U.S. appetite for illegal drugs. We seem unable to face the fact that we are responsible for creating wealth for the cartels. And, no, just making drugs legal won’t fix it now. Is there an answer? No, I don’t think so. We seem unwilling or unable to curb our appetites. Colombia fixed their problem, in large part, by using hit squads on crucial players to eliminate Escobar’s reign, so the problem shifted to Mexico. It is a supply and demand problem. Until demand is reduced, the problem will continue.
a capella on July 26, 2010 at 11:12 AM
It’s already here.
E.g. the city of Bell, California, that’s been in the news lately.
BowHuntingTexas on July 26, 2010 at 11:14 AM
I believe you can’t annex Mexico. They are not in the tradition of a educated Western Country. They are a different type of Western Country. They don’t want to become Americans, and don’t want the corrupt ways (and culture) to be adopted here in this country.
Look how long it’s taken PR just adopt some English and they are a small island.
Oil Can on July 26, 2010 at 11:14 AM
What are the gun laws in Mexico? Can citizens own guns?
Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Cindy Munford:)
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Information For residents and visitors
Guns are Illegal in Mexico
http://tijuana.usconsulate.gov/tijuana/warning.html
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Gun politics in Mexico
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Mexico
canopfor on July 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM
From what I understand, no.
Vera on July 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM
When that place really goes to shiite, we are going to wish that there had been a real fence with real defenders manning it.
Jihadis are coming over the border now, just wait until the Mexican federal government dissolves, it will be every entrepreneur for himself. $20k to get across the border into the U.S. with a truck bomb? No problemo, amigo.
Bishop on July 26, 2010 at 11:16 AM
Given the fact that illegals refuse to assimilate into our ctlture, I would say that Mexico is trying to annex us. And Scooter is bound and determined to let them do it.
kingsjester on July 26, 2010 at 11:17 AM
Rocks on July 26, 2010 at 11:03 AM
“Path towards statehood”? Are you kidding?
I’d treat it as a demilitarized zone.
teke184 on July 26, 2010 at 11:17 AM
Well, at the very least occupy the first ten miles on the other side of the border and militarize it. Clean out the border towns and establish law and order and the locals would actually be on our side.
shuzilla on July 26, 2010 at 11:18 AM
Yes, I know and it’s scary, I live in the OC. There are three or four little towns south of LA that are about 1/2 illegal alien. That’s what you get. Let’s please keep Mexico in Mexico.
I have family in TX in the Dallas area, my wife and I mess with the idea of moving all the time
Oil Can on July 26, 2010 at 11:18 AM
This story is jawdroppingly shocking even by the woeful standards of Mexican corruption.
jwolf on July 26, 2010 at 11:21 AM
I was thinking just that. The abandonment of Manifest Destiny is a historical mistake whose consequences we live with today. Our southern border is far too long. A naturally defensible border would be the Isthmus of Panama.
year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 11:21 AM
“This should impress the truth on people…”
Yeah, but it won’t.
psrch on July 26, 2010 at 11:23 AM
year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 11:21 AM
That has “horrible idea” written all over it.
teke184 on July 26, 2010 at 11:26 AM
Mexico needs a complete new govt. After Iraq, we need to deply to Mexico and set up a true capitalist republic and drop bunker busters on every drug lord’s mansion.
jeffn21 on July 26, 2010 at 11:27 AM
Instead of annexing Mexico, let’s give them California too and build a wall north to south too. Better yet, drop a bomb on the San Andreas fault ad watch California sink into the ocean….
Tim Zank on July 26, 2010 at 11:28 AM
Parts of Mexico are beginning to look like Somalia. The level of corruption is astounding and it appears no one is in control.
scalleywag on July 26, 2010 at 11:29 AM
Yeah, and just think, both parties want open borders with these people. I can’t wait to see the spin on this.
austinnelly on July 26, 2010 at 11:32 AM
Mexico is almost an Afghanistan, substitute the drug lords for the Taliban and they are very close.
mydh12 on July 26, 2010 at 11:35 AM
how about we just turn it into a combo Bombing Range/Gitmo detainee center.
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on July 26, 2010 at 11:36 AM
Is there simply no hope for Mexico, then? If we’re gonna go a’nation building why not look to our own neighbors ? If we could attempt (without sincerely trying, let’s be honest) to establish a democracy in Iraq, imagine what we could do for Mexico — they’re already half way there. As it is, I wouldn’t travel to Mexico for tourism for a million dollars (coincidentally, that’s also probably the amount of the ransom my abductors would demand from my family.) No wonder so many people are willing to risk death to crawl across the border. American may not be perfect — but geez, look at the competition.
cynccook on July 26, 2010 at 11:37 AM
bomb on the San Andreas fault ad watch California sink into the ocean….
Tim Zank on July 26, 2010 at 11:28 AM
Pretty sure God already has that pencilled in on his DayPlanner sometime in the nearish future.
cynccook on July 26, 2010 at 11:40 AM
Thanks for posting that, Cindy. The one time I went into Mexico (across one of the bridges, on foot) a few years ago, I had my pocket knife with me. I’ll never do that again.
Ward Cleaver on July 26, 2010 at 11:40 AM
Yes we need to secure our border but that will not stop my compassion for the people living on both sides of it.
shick on July 26, 2010 at 11:40 AM
Corruption in Mexico, who knew. This will in general implode on itself.
tarpon on July 26, 2010 at 11:41 AM
This is starting to sound familiar
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Guys:
Check out Trial by fire by Harold Coyle.
El Coqui on July 26, 2010 at 11:45 AM
As long as demand for illegal drugs remains high in the U.S., a new mexican government will be easily and quickly corrupted. The root of the cartels’ power exists here. Mexico has always had a corruption problem, but not the wads of cash to completely exploit that tendency, till now. Any governmental institutions are completely rotted and will remain that way as long as large amounts of money are available to the cartels. The cartels will eventually run the government, with complete legal access to military ordnance and the judicial system. U.S. citizens don’t want to accept the fact they are responsible for funding it and change their ways. This will continue to be a festering sore.
a capella on July 26, 2010 at 11:46 AM
Mexico is in the process of getting the log out of its own eye before trying to get the speck out of America’s eye.
Mojave Mark on July 26, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Mexico is making Iran look rational and stable by comparison.
I’m sure it’s hopeless under the current administration, but I do think it’s time to have a serious conversation about what to do with Mexico. They seem incapable of righting their own ship.
TexasDan on July 26, 2010 at 11:49 AM
RACIST
RACIST
RACIST
RACIST
RACIST
RACIST
SDarchitect on July 26, 2010 at 11:51 AM
Think a little further north, Villiagarosa, Mexican gangs and special order 40. That is if you have any doubts.
Speakup on July 26, 2010 at 11:54 AM
A successful parasite does not kill the host, it allows the host to live on and continue to provide for the parasite.
The Thugocracy in Mexico is not a successful parasite, it’s killing the host. Build the F*cking fence.
iurockhead on July 26, 2010 at 11:55 AM
Bush’s fault…they were imprisoned on Bush’s watch, therefore it is his problem…
right2bright on July 26, 2010 at 11:55 AM
I’ve been saying it for a few years, now: the next major deployment of US troops will be on our southern border.
If we cannot support our own sovereignty with the civil means of fences and walls, then what comes after that is less than thrilling, less than lovely and completely blamed upon those unwilling to enforce the laws of the land. We were lied to with the Amnesty under Reagan, and we still have some of those fossils sitting in the House and Senate. Enforcing laws work… I prefer civil means, but I am never without doubt that the civil sword must be bloodied to come to just defense of this Nation.
ajacksonian on July 26, 2010 at 11:57 AM
Over the past few years, I have had the, er, learning experience of traveling to a Central American country a number of times. The corruption is so endemic, I do not think the average citizen of that country even realizes how corrupt their culture is. Does a fish know it’s in water? Honestly, when I hear “corruption” bandied about in that country, I assume the problem is that he wasn’t offered a big enough bribe. That’s just the way business was, is, and always shall be.
The people are nice. I enjoy their company. I like the food. I hope for the best for them. But having seen a bit of that culture up close, I have a bit of concern that we have let vast numbers of people from that culture into our country.
CJ on July 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM
I wonder if any of the victims were taking their child for ice cream in AZ…
mjbrooks3 on July 26, 2010 at 12:05 PM
Mexico is burning and their El Presidente has the b***s to address our Congress and complaim about our AZ law, then the stupid DEMS give him a standing ovation. WTF.
I have lived a very long time and have never seen such a bunch of idiots in charge of this great country, I pray to God we can survive without another civil war.
We need leaders that will give us a balance sheet and let us decide who gets our tax dollars, not the Kings and Queens in congress.
God Bless America
concernedsenior on July 26, 2010 at 12:07 PM
But they’ll never have their civil war. They, unlike most failed countries, have a “pressure valve” called the United States. They are able to export their social problems (in the form of millions of poor & unempoloyed) here while at the same time blaming the U.S. for their continued problems at home.
This is why I never understand the “compassion” argument for illegal immigration. Sure, allowing it may help out the relatively small percentage of Mexicans who come here, but it also allows the corrupt and falied Mexican government to continue being corrupt and failed without any social reprecussions.
29Victor on July 26, 2010 at 12:10 PM
Direct government involvement in drug cartel business. I think they call that a Narco-state.
OxyCon on July 26, 2010 at 12:12 PM
I was just going to write either “wow” or “*facepalm*” as my comment, but you said it better.
itsnotaboutme on July 26, 2010 at 12:16 PM
Unbelievable! Not only was this reported in our local paper, The El Paso Times, this morning, but I heard it on a CBS News radio broadcast! I realize that we are across the river from Juarez, Mexico, so this should get reported here, but the CBS report was really unexpected. Now if they would just report the percentage of weapons coming from the U.S. accurately, but I don’t think that will ever happen.
Susanboo on July 26, 2010 at 12:16 PM
Again, Bash California for all of the U.S. problems, wanna cut us off? go ahead, we can still wreck the economy worse than our politicians could even dream of.Like your cheap chinese Wal-mart products? we will tariff you til the mexicans go home(bad pun), don’t forget We have lots of guns too, I’m talking to you, Mr. Zank
bomb on the San Andreas fault ad watch California sink into the ocean….
Tim Zank on July 26, 2010 at 11:28 AM
Bobnormal on July 26, 2010 at 12:25 PM
I have a bit of concern that vast numbers of them believe California, Arizona, NM, Texas, Colorado and God knows what other states belong to Mexico and want to turn them into that hellhole.
Eren on July 26, 2010 at 12:28 PM
The War of 1848, I beleive is the only the thing that is tought in Mexican schools. They still considered those states as Mexcian land. It is one (of many) reasons why I don’t see big assmilation or an embrance of OUR culture in those states. You are just traveling to a different part of Mexico or Aztlan. It’s even pushed in the Mexican charter school in LA. It’s a different type of immigrant (illegal), so we need strict immigration laws. A no bilingual education or government services. English only.
Oil Can on July 26, 2010 at 12:36 PM
Mexico is too corrupt to hold organized crime-criminals in prison. They should look at contracting prisons out to private enterprise in another country.
slickwillie2001 on July 26, 2010 at 12:49 PM
Also the GOP candidate is a open borders person. From LA Times
It doesn’t take much to get John and Ken into a swivet — the radio duo’s fan base was built on indignation — but this week Meg Whitman offered them more than enough with which to work.
Outraged over Whitman’s new, more liberal tone on immigration, they filled the airwaves — and they have plenty to fill, with five hours on KFI every workday — with broadsides at the Republican nominee for governor. They mocked her statements as “garbage,” read aloud their correspondence with a campaign aide they labeled a “weasel” and recounted old interviews to show her change in emphasis. They used the station’s website to scream “Stop the Pandering” and urge listeners to barrage Whitman’s campaign with phone calls and her Facebook page with criticisms.
By the end of the week, the voicemail attached to the number they had supplied was too full to accept any more calls, and Whitman’s Facebook page was awash in supportive sentiments like “Here’s a note for ya, Meg… Go away! Go run for Governor of Mexico!”
Hell, it turns out, hath no fury like radio hosts scorned.
Oil Can on July 26, 2010 at 12:54 PM
My wife is Hispanic and her Mexican relatives want us to build the freaking wall!
Their culture is not like Western European. They behave more like tribal Africans. It is not unusual, when their is a change in party control of the government, for the new group in power to “clean out” some of the former officers. My wife lost an uncle to such a “cleansing.”
This is par for the course and none of them so much as bat an eye over it….
Ace ODale on July 26, 2010 at 12:55 PM
a capella on July 26, 2010 at 11:46 AM
OMG just give it a rest, you bleeding heart liberal!!! It is not our problem that Mexico is overrun by drug lords. If you take that logic then it is our fault China is polluting the world by producing consumer products that we buy. Oh wait, that IS your stupid logic…
catlady on July 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM
Oh and by the way, I DO live in a major city in Texas less than 300 miles from the border. And I DO have a shotgun and some ammo, but obviously not nearly enough. I have friends who have ranchland closer to the border that now live in fear every day. It really really makes me angry, and I expect my governor to do something soon if BO wont.
catlady on July 26, 2010 at 1:03 PM
That explains the warm welcome and standing ovation the Democrats gave Presidente Claderone during his address to congress…
TN Mom on July 26, 2010 at 1:05 PM
TN Mom on July 26, 2010 at 1:05 PM
Good one!
catlady on July 26, 2010 at 1:06 PM
What we need is a NASA outreach program for mexicans, you know, to praise their math skills…
TN Mom on July 26, 2010 at 1:10 PM
Perhaps that is the problem.
Historically the law abiding citizens of Mexico are the helpless victim of the lawless gangs and corrupt officials, subject to kidnapping and extortion, murder and fear of their life and family. They have no way of telling those who feed on their helplessness, no! They have no way of defending themselves if they do.
It has been shown time and again that when citizens are unarmed, criminals have nothing to fear and crime goes up. When citizens are allowed to carry, are trained to use their guns and do so, crime goes down.
Perhaps the problem is that Mexican citizens are not armed to protect themselves, or others. Crime is going up and nothing stands in the way of the criminals doing what ever they want with their helpless populations.
How would that change if citizens were allowed to arm and carry and have protection if they use their guns in defense? Sending more guns to Mexico might be the answer. As it is, only the criminals, the ones that don’t care who they shoot, have the guns.
Franklyn on July 26, 2010 at 1:17 PM
Look at the story behind Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter. Mexico has to have the USA Special Forces invade, because the CINC has been kidnapped, thanks due to their increasing lawlessness.
As for ‘annexing’ Mexico, that’s a really stupid idea. Yeah, just what we need: a country filled with violent offenders and uneducated migrant workers that will take advantage of being an appendage of the US to legally flood across the borders. What we have to do is seal that border with armed men, all empowered with the power to shoot to kill any invaders, and anyone that fires at them, no matter how far across into Mexico they have to return fire. This would, in fact, provide a boost to national employment figures across states like New Mexico, Texas, Arizona and California as securing the border will require vastly expanded state, county and city police forces (meaning more hiring), as well as the possible inclusion of private security/military forces, like Xe Services LLC (Blackwater). Mexico is not only exporting economy-draining criminals masquerading as workers, but they’re also flat-out expanding violent criminals that wear no mask, other than the ones designed to hide their identities from the people they victimize as they come across the border. Building a massive, Great Wall of China would be nice, but that’s going to take too long. A combination of law enforcement, sheriffs’ department posse forces and private military and security force contractors would be much faster. I’m not saying it would be cheap, but it would be much faster, and probably much more efficient. Also, anyone captured on this side of the border would face prosecution for at least a class-b felony and long term imprisonment at hard labor (maybe they could build the wall). States know they can’t rely on the federal government (i.e.: DHS) for help, so they would have to use their vastly expanded law enforcement organizations and private security contractors to form a large, cohesive, interstate network to provide criminal intelligence aiding in capturing illegal aliens, their families and those that harbor them.
Virus-X on July 26, 2010 at 1:17 PM
I just don’t understand how Mexico can have so much gun violence when it has such strict gun laws. Can somebody explain this to me?
Tantor on July 26, 2010 at 1:56 PM
That statement is dead-nuts-right-on. But for the love of all that is good and decent, could we please stop abusing the word violence?
What’s happening across the border is lawlessness and anarchy; and should be identified as such. If all violence is bad, then we should abolish sports, action movies, video games, self defence, etc. This is one area in which we have allowed the dominant elitists culture (journalists and politicians) to corrupt our terminology. They are trying to condition us to the premise that all violence is bad. And it just so happens that self defence against a physical attack is itself, violent. And I refuse to allow them to define self defence as wrong.
oops…got off topic. Those last several lines had nothing to do with story-line.
listens2glenn on July 26, 2010 at 2:16 PM
Thread winnah!
Laura in Maryland on July 26, 2010 at 2:22 PM
You guys are all racists. This is all George Bush’s fault.
manwithblackhat on July 26, 2010 at 2:24 PM
The Republicans under Bush refused to seal the border. Out goes the Republicans, in comes demonrats. The demonrats under Obuma refuse to seal the border. Out goes the demonrats, in comes the Republicans. The beat goes on.
volsense on July 26, 2010 at 2:28 PM
The problem is not the corruption but the culture. I’m afraid that is the ugly truth. Until Mexico changes its educational system so that the majority of its citizens finish highschool this will continue.
Theworldisnotenough on July 26, 2010 at 3:58 PM
We need to do the colonial thing right, but not allow them free access to are lands until they are indistinguishable from us.
Slowburn on July 26, 2010 at 3:58 PM
I really wish France had the balls to go on a Colonial/Imperialist march…
Tim Burton on July 26, 2010 at 5:23 PM
I agree with your comment that Mexico is on the verge of becoming a failed state. The problem is corruption at all levels in Mexico. A big part of the problem is the apathy of the people to accept it as “oh well, that’s the way it is”.
LurP on July 26, 2010 at 6:11 PM
And yet the Left is more concerned with helping bring Mexicans Here that helping Mexicans There
Observation on July 26, 2010 at 6:55 PM
This is ALL Arizona’s fault, and that dang law they passed. *rolls eyes*
Now what say you, Eric Holder? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
capejasmine on July 26, 2010 at 7:36 PM
I hope you sleep well at night knowing that the drug cartels have diversified.
According to Borderland Beat:
Not even the Government is saved. Several Mayors are slapped by drug traffickers, senior state officials are stripped of their showy vehicles, federal employees unable to accomplish their tasks.
They charge for the electricity, the water and the farms. They became public service providers Pemex has oil stolen and sold back to them.
It’s not only about the drugs anymore. I’m trying to find the story of the losses from farmers and ranchers, too.
meMC on July 26, 2010 at 8:51 PM
1. Drug cartels would leave the people alone. They only killed other people involved in their same business.
2. Family.
Unfortunately they believe that making a deal with the devil (the three cartels that united to get rid of the Zetas) will take them back to peace.
meMC on July 26, 2010 at 8:56 PM
That is what corruption creates. Think about it when it comes time to choose between a strongly suspected corrupt politician and even a slightly kooky Tea Partier. The more we tolerate corruption the more the results will emulate Mexico or even Venezuela or Cuba.
{^_^}
herself on July 27, 2010 at 2:21 AM