Journolist, Day 5: Let’s campaign for Obama!

posted at 11:36 am on July 26, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

The Daily Caller offers another installment of its Journolist exposé, only this one may be most notable for the praise given … Sarah Palin.  After her speech at the Republican convention in 2008, the list members admitted their respect for the VP nominee, with one calling the speech “gangbusters.”  Palin had them worried enough that a proposal floated among members to use the listserv explicitly to coordinate efforts to get Barack Obama elected:

Sarah Palin’s speech to the 2008 Republican convention impressed more than a few doubters, including even some members of Journolist, an online community for liberal journalists.

“This speech is gangbusters,” wrote Ari Melber of the Nation. “Her tone is pitch perfect.” Adele Stan of the Media Consortium agreed: “Palin is golden.”

The exuberance appeared to unnerve the Guardian’s Michael Tomasky. “People get a hold of yourselves!” Tomasky wrote to his fellow Journolisters. “It’s a very good speech with good lines. But there’s very little substance.”

A few days later, the bargaining began:

Luke Mitchell, then a senior editor at Harper’s magazine, asked Tomasky if his paper would be able to help: “Michael – Isn’t this something that can be fanned a bit by, say, the Guardian?”

Tomasky didn’t think it would work. “The Guardian? You’re kidding right? Remember the Clark County letters?” he wrote, referring to a failed attempt by the Guardian to elect John Kerry in 2004 by asking Britons to write letters to voters in a pivotal Ohio county.

Mitchell replied: “Fair enough! But it seems to me that a concerted effort on the part of the left partisan press could be useful. Why geld ourselves? A lot of the people on this list work for organizations that are far more influential than, say, the Washington Times.

“Open question: Would it be a good use of this list to co-ordinate a message of the week along the lines of the GOP? Or is that too loathsome? It certainly sounds loathsome. But so does losing!”

To his credit, Journolist founder Ezra Klein squelched the idea:

“Nope, no message coordination. I’m not even sure that would be legal. This is a discussion list, though, and I want it to retain that character,” he wrote.

But that wasn’t the end of it, according to the Daily Caller’s Jonathan Strong. Ed Kilgore of the Progressive Policy Institute and Todd Gitlin of the Columbia School of Journalism continued to push for better messaging against John McCain and Palin.  Gitlin made it specific:

“On the question of liberals coordinating, what the hell’s wrong with some critical mass of liberal bloggers & journalists saying the following among themselves:

“McCain lies about his maverick status. Routinely, cavalierly, cynically. Palin lies about her maverick status. Ditto, ditto, ditto. McCain has a wretched temperament. McCain is a warmonger. Palin belongs to a crackpot church and feels warmly about a crackpot party that trashes America.

“Repeat after me:

“McCain lies about his maverick status. Routinely, cavalierly, cynically. Palin lies about her maverick status. Ditto, ditto, ditto. McCain has a wretched temperament. McCain is a warmonger. Palin belongs to a crackpot church and feels warmly about a crackpot party that trashes America.[“]

The Columbia School of Journalism should be answering that question today.  What’s wrong with journalists colluding to force a political message through their reporting?  Obviously Gitlin doesn’t find anything wrong with it, but perhaps the university’s ethics professors might have a bone to pick with it.

There is little doubt that Journolisters used the listserv for cheerleading and campaigning.  In most cases, that would be as surprising as hearing that journalists talk politics at bars, and worthy of the same level of outrage.  It’s certainly telling, however, that a man tasked with instructing future journalists has no trouble urging writers to secretly coordinate messages on behalf of the party and candidate he likes.  I doubt that’s the first time Gitlin has offered that advice, and Columbia needs to respond to this revelation.  Will they stand behind this as proper ethics for their students, or will they repudiate Gitlin?

Update: And don’t miss the initial Journolister foray into Sarah Palin’s uterus, although to be fair, a number of participants insisted that it was really none of their business.

Update II: John Ziegler claims vindication.

Update III: Greg Sargent claims that Ezra’s reply makes this a non-story, and that the Daily Caller is pandering to conservative media.  I note that Greg (who was a member of Journolist) doesn’t address the issue of Gitlin expressly demanding coordination later in the thread or the ethics of a J-school professor saying, “Again. And again. Vary the details. There are plenty. Somebody on the ‘list posted a strong list of McCain lies earlier today. Hammer it. Philosophize, as Nietzsche said, with a hammer.  I don’t know about any of you, but I’m not waiting for any coordination. Get on with it!”


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gh on July 26, 2010 at 12:46 PM

That kid is their HCR voice?

OK.

I’m too old, obviously. He’s barely out of his teens!

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:49 PM

So I guess this means, in a round about way, that McCain and the Journolist members both believe he’s not a maverick. Funny how that’s only true now and not then. My, my, what politicians will do to stay in power, even if that means to pretend something wasn’t true.

Weebork on July 26, 2010 at 12:50 PM

LOL. Oh be nice. It’s amusing seeing Ann being bitten by reality.

gh on July 26, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Oh please, she’s simply a snarky type. I haven’t reacted to her, really, in over a year.

I can’t really figure out why snark types think they are clever at all. It’s just plain boring to me.

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:50 PM

What’s “our side?”

Jenfidel on July 26, 2010 at 12:48 PM

The term “useful idiot” was used by Lenin to describe capitalists who would provide the rope with which to hang themselves (but surely you know this). So Klein is not a useful idiot to the left … he might be to the right. IIRC, you were calling him a useful idiot for supporting leftist policies … (I’m too lazy to check carefully what you said — feel free to correct my impression if it’s wrong).

gh on July 26, 2010 at 12:51 PM

I think the Journolist story has run its course.

So, they had a place where they gathered and expressed their real opinions. And it turns out that they are incredibly opinionated and immature.

Where’s the real news here?

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:52 PM

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:50 PM

What if you’re playing dumb to derail the explosive impact of this story?
Would the Left do that–use a truly idiotic-seeming useful idiot to soften the influence of HA?
Yes.

Jenfidel on July 26, 2010 at 12:53 PM

That kid is their HCR voice?

OK.

I’m too old, obviously. He’s barely out of his teens!

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:49 PM

Self-appointed, naturally.

gh on July 26, 2010 at 12:53 PM

Where’s the real news here?

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:52 PM

A look behind the scenes in their own words proving that the media are exactly what conservatives have been saying they are, just another campaign tool for liberals.

Brian1972 on July 26, 2010 at 12:55 PM

gh on July 26, 2010 at 12:51 PM

In the pure sense of the word, all American journalists are “useful idiots” as they seek to derail the country and the way of life they decry daily in their papers without realizing where that road is really leading (i.e. to Moscow and misery).

Jenfidel on July 26, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Jenfidel on July 26, 2010 at 12:55 PM

I don’t think “useful idiots” is the right description. Brain-washed morons is much better.

gh on July 26, 2010 at 12:58 PM

I think the Journolist story has run its course.

So, they had a place where they gathered and expressed their real opinions. And it turns out that they are incredibly opinionated and immature.

Where’s the real news here?

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:52 PM

The coordination and manipulation of stories amongst press members violates the freedom of the press privileges outlined in the Constitution. The press is to be independent. If there are journo’s giving OB/GYN exams on Sarah Palin, coordinating attack lines on her, coordinating ddefense lines for Obama, suppressing stories on REV Wright, that is concerning on several levels. First, the coordination and manipulation plans that they discussed appears to have occurred and had the effects they hoped to have–REV W story WAS buried, Sarah P WAS viciously attacked, Obama DID win and WAS NOT harmed as a result of REV W story, Bill Ayers story and so on. You and I don’t have that kind of influence, nor does Ed, sort of.

While various existing codes have some differences, most share common elements including the principles of — truthfulness, accuracy, objectivity, impartiality, fairness and public accountability — as these apply to the acquisition of newsworthy information and its subsequent dissemination to the public.[3][4][5][6]

Like many broader ethical systems, journalism ethics include the principle of “limitation of harm.” This often involves the withholding of certain details from reports such as the names of minor children, crime victims’ names or information not materially related to particular news reports release of which might, for example, harm someone’s reputation.[7][8]

Some journalistic Codes of Ethics, notably the European ones,[9] also include a concern with discriminatory references in news based on race, religion, sexual orientation, and physical or mental disabilities.[10][11][12][13] The European Council approved in 1993 Resolution 1003 on the Ethics of Journalism which recommends journalists to respect yet the presumption of innocence, in particular in cases that are still sub judice[14].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_ethics_and_standards

You’d think, that a certain point, you’d understand that you’ve been lied to. Sarah Palin is NOT the person that the MSM reported that she is. Barack Obama is NOT the person that the MSM reported that he is. REV Wright WAS a big story and should’ve been told. Those three things are really beginning to appear to be the truth, Ann. Don’t ask me, though, look at the facts.

ted c on July 26, 2010 at 12:59 PM

I am tempted to compare today’s “journalists” with prostitutes, except I’m sure “ladies of the evening” have much higher ethical standards.

bw222 on July 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM

I am tempted to compare today’s “journalists” with prostitutes, except I’m sure “ladies of the evening” have much higher ethical standards.

bw222 on July 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Heck, even prostitutes don’t kiss on the mouth, the JournoListers would’ve chewed Axelrod’s used bubble gum if they could’ve gotten a sit down with the One.

ted c on July 26, 2010 at 1:01 PM

I am tempted to compare today’s “journalists” with prostitutes, except I’m sure “ladies of the evening” have much higher ethical standards.

bw222 on July 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM

They also have to be paid. The MSM does it for free.

Missy on July 26, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Ken Starr is a good man, who went down into the sewers of the Clinton Crime Family in the service of our country. The lefties will never forgive him for that.

slickwillie2001 on July 26, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Columbia needs to respond to this revelation. Will they stand behind this as proper ethics for their students, or will they repudiate Gitlin?

Ed, wake up! You’ve GOT to be dreaming! This would only be an outrage to Columbia if the politics were on the other side of the spectrum.

lionheart on July 26, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Sorry if this was already mentioned, but it’s Day 5 of Journolist stories at the Daily Caller and they’re still only on the aftermath of Palin’s RNC speech.

Anyone else think there’s a LOT more out there that we’re going to be treated to? We still have the rest of September and October 2008, which will include the fall of Lehman Brothers, TARP, and Joe the Plumber, as well as multiple Palin “scandals.”

And then, post-election, we have the whole Obama administration up until the time Journolist was disbanded.

The J-Listers are beyond nervous by now.

Missy on July 26, 2010 at 1:07 PM

Ed Kilgore of the Progressive Policy Institute and Todd Gitlin of the Columbia School of Journalism continued to push for better messaging against John McCain and Palin.

The Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism’s purpose is to educate and train students, from all over world, to become accomplished professional journalists. The school prepares them to perform a vital and challenging function in free societies: finding out the truth of complicated situations, usually under a time constraint, and communicating it in a clear, engaging fashion to the public. The school also educates scholars of communications and journalism, and functions as a significant guiding force in journalism and inculcates in its students the habit of thinking of themselves as leaders for change and improvement in the profession.
http://www.journalism.columbia.edu/cs/ContentServer/jrn/1165270071374/page/1175374096177/JRNTabPage.htm

just a little side information for ya’ll on how Columbia does bidness.

ted c on July 26, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Kenn Starr was truly without ethical boundaries.

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:25 PM

But committing perjury before a federal judge is “ethical” – especially if you’re the POTUS.

Good Lt on July 26, 2010 at 1:08 PM

I think the Journolist story has run its course.

So, they had a place where they gathered and expressed their real opinions. And it turns out that they are incredibly opinionated and immature.

Where’s the real news here?

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:52 PM

The real news is that these journalist conspired to beat the same drum over, and over, and over again within the mainstream news in order to destroy Palin/McCain and elect Obama.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”

Goebbels would be so proud.

MississippiMom on July 26, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Here, repeat this after me, Todd Gitlin….

The school also educates scholars of communications and journalism, and functions as a significant guiding force in journalism and inculcates in its students the habit of thinking of themselves as leaders for change and improvement in the profession

Is this how Todd Gitlin, graduate of the Columbia University School of Journalism thinks of himself as a leader for change and improvement in the profession???

“Repeat after me:
“McCain lies about his maverick status. Routinely, cavalierly, cynically. Palin lies about her maverick status. Ditto, ditto, ditto. McCain has a wretched temperament. McCain is a warmonger. Palin belongs to a crackpot church and feels warmly about a crackpot party that trashes America.[“]

Sure, Todd, we’d like to hear from Columbia on this one. Is this what they mean for their graduates to engage in? Collusion, media coordination, repetitive mantras to drive stories? Is that it, Todd? Is this what Columbia wants its graduates to do in a “free society?” Were these fellow JournoListers not “free” to think for themselves, or did they need a Columbia man to do it for them? Apparently so.

ted c on July 26, 2010 at 1:12 PM

Where’s the real news here?

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Well, well, well. Where to begin?

I think it was the 2004 election cycle, when “newsrooms” across the U.S. were glowing with their unrestricted outpouring of love and admiration of Senator John Kerry. The occupants of those “newsrooms” couldn’t praise The Brave Senator enough. When asked where their vote for president would be going, somewhere in the range of 90% gushed, “JOHN KERRY!”. Oh. With one exception. One morning, on “Fox and Friends”, it was I think, Steve Doocy who reported the same question had been posed to those working for Fox. The response according to Doocy, was 49% to 51%. BUT HE NEVER STATED WHICH CANDIDATE RECEIVED 51%.

So, in that regard, you’re correct. That the vast majority of pretty boys and hair-dos that constitute the Main Stream Media have gone-a whoring for the Liberals is no surprise. It’s only news that what some of us have known for decades, has finally been confirmed. And the whores are so proud of themselves. Perhaps it’s a lack of shame on the part of the whores which is the real news.

oldleprechaun on July 26, 2010 at 1:14 PM

Combining Tradition and New Technology
As the Journalism School moves forward, embracing the challenges and opportunities of the 21st century and the information technology revolution, it continues to educate ethical journalists, ensures they are equipped to serve the public good, and it upholds the standards of excellence of the profession as a whole.

http://www.journalism.columbia.edu/cs/ContentServer/jrn/1165270069652/page/1165270071415/JRNSimplePage2.htm

ted c on July 26, 2010 at 1:15 PM

This is a discussion list, though, and I want it to retain that character

Note Ezra doesn’t say “no, because coordinating the message would be wrong.” He says, no, because I want this list to “retain” the “character” of a discussion list.

Not even “remain a discussion list.” “Retain” the “character” of a discussion list.

Pure optics.

Missy on July 26, 2010 at 1:16 PM

It bores others, Jen.

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:47 PM

I kind of enjoy the analysis.

NY Conservative on July 26, 2010 at 1:17 PM

I think the Journolist story has run its course.

So, they had a place where they gathered and expressed their real opinions. And it turns out that they are incredibly opinionated and immature.

Where’s the real news here?

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:52 PM

You CANNOT be for real…it boggles the mind.

NY Conservative on July 26, 2010 at 1:18 PM

AnninCA
http://www.journalism.org/node/1363

despite network news failures, they still outpace cable news for viewers. this is old data, but I think it’s probably a ballpark representation of what the truth is.

ted c on July 26, 2010 at 1:20 PM

The J-Listers are beyond nervous by now.

Missy on July 26, 2010 at 1:07 PM

I think they’re nailing the top floor windows shut at the NYT and WaPo this week….

jus sayin.

ted c on July 26, 2010 at 1:21 PM

I think the Journolist story has run its course.

“You cannot be serious.” –John McEnroe

The Journolist story is even bigger than the global warming fraud. It’s something like the Venona decrypts, which revealed certain Americans to be Soviet spies, and that they had been all along, just as suspected, no matter how much they denied it.

Reading the Journolist exchanges reveals the participants as treacherous, lying creeps. All that’s missing is an appearance by Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.

Emperor Norton on July 26, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Obviously what they discussed on Journolist regarding Palin and Trig did make it out to the LSM because it did become such a big story that Sarah and Todd had to announce that Bristol was 5 months pregnant… I look at the names on that list and I think- hatefilled and despicable people

CCRWM on July 26, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Obviously what they discussed on Journolist regarding Palin and Trig did make it out to the LSM because it did become such a big story that Sarah and Todd had to announce that Bristol was 5 months pregnant… I look at the names on that list and I think- hatefilled and despicable people

CCRWM on July 26, 2010 at 1:25 PM

and folks like KiPow and KaPa will disparage that as ohhh, no big deal, it was only talk among friends, like a bar conversation or something, yet, the story gets out, people are hurt, people are damaged, campaigns are affected and personal lives are upset. One wonders what the gyno exams of all the JournoListers would reveal?

ted c on July 26, 2010 at 1:29 PM

“You cannot be serious.” –John McEnroe

Ah…a good McEnroe reference is always welcome. I can just hear him yelling it. ;)

Missy on July 26, 2010 at 1:30 PM

One wonders what the gyno exams of all the JournoListers would reveal?

ted c on July 26, 2010 at 1:29 PM

eeeeewww! do not go there…

txmomof6 on July 26, 2010 at 1:31 PM

You know that Journolist isn’t the only so-called ‘discussion’ group right? There are others out there and the Journolisters will migrate to them, or restart the same thing under a different name. That won’t change.

What we have now is proof of what they are, and that ain’t journalism.

It would also be nice if some people who are repeating the garbage these hacks were putting out would take the time to actually think for themselves.

sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 1:31 PM

It bores others, Jen.

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:47 PM

If you find it boring, what are you doing here? Is your life so empty that you have no other interests or activities?

bw222 on July 26, 2010 at 1:32 PM

You know that Journolist isn’t the only so-called ‘discussion’ group right?

That makes sense, because there appears to be some coordination regarding the Sherrod story and of course the Journolist story itself.

Is Townhouse still active? Ot did Journolist rise from its ashes? I have read conflicting reports.

Missy on July 26, 2010 at 1:34 PM

It would also be nice if some people who are repeating the garbage these hacks were putting out would take the time to actually think for themselves.

sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 1:31 PM

That would require the ability and/or willingness to think.

Groupthink is so much easier.

txmomof6 on July 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM

That makes sense, because there appears to be some coordination regarding the Sherrod story and of course the Journolist story itself.

Missy on July 26, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Exactly and there will be other groups out there. I suspect some of the David Frums of the world would know their names and who belonged to them.

There is actually a rumor that David Frum was a lurker at Jurnolist. Wouldn’t surprise me.

sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 1:40 PM

That would require the ability and/or willingness to think.

Groupthink is so much easier.

txmomof6 on July 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Sadly there are conservatives who bought into this manufactured pap as well.

sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 1:41 PM

There is actually a rumor that David Frum was a lurker at Jurnolist. Wouldn’t surprise me.

sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Me, neither.

Missy on July 26, 2010 at 1:43 PM

There is actually a rumor that David Frum was a lurker at Jurnolist. Wouldn’t surprise me.
sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Unlikely. Frum was on NRO until very recently.

gh on July 26, 2010 at 1:49 PM

In related news, Charlie Rangel feels that the story about his corruption has “run its course”.
In related news, Eric Holder feels that the story about his racist double standard of prosecution has “run its course”.
In related news, Jesse Jackson Jr. feels that the story about his corruption has “run its course”.
….
….
….

slickwillie2001 on July 26, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Unlikely. Frum was on NRO until very recently.

gh on July 26, 2010 at 1:49 PM

NRO isn’t what it used to be. Mark Steyn and others are great, but it is starting to go south.

sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 1:55 PM

sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 1:55 PM

I hear this complaint from lots of people. However, if you know what the left calls Jonah Goldberg, you would realize that being on NRO by itself would disqualify Frum. Not to mention the fact that he was a fellow at the Heritage Foundation as well.

gh on July 26, 2010 at 2:01 PM

Not to mention the fact that he was a fellow at the Heritage Foundation as well.

gh on July 26, 2010 at 2:01 PM

I thought they kicked him outa there?

sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 2:02 PM

If members of a media organization explicitly agree to tilt campaign coverage for the specific purpose of tearing down one candidate and/or building up another, why does that not constitute an in-kind contribution to a campaign?

Chuckles3 on July 26, 2010 at 2:05 PM

However, if you know what the left calls Jonah Goldberg, you would realize that being on NRO by itself would disqualify Frum. Not to mention the fact that he was a fellow at the Heritage Foundation as well.

gh on July 26, 2010 at 2:01 PM

Meaning Ezra wouldn’t have let him in? Possibly. But my hunch is that Frum (and others like him) are valued by the left as “moderates” who are willing to dish dirt on their “fellow” conservatives in order to gain approbation from the media establishment.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Klein made an exception for Frum in the way he did for Dave Weigel.

Missy on July 26, 2010 at 2:15 PM

Not to mention the fact that he was a fellow at the Heritage Foundation as well.

gh on July 26, 2010 at 2:01 PM

I thought they kicked him outa there?

sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 2:02 PM

To my knowledge, Frum has never been a part of the Heritage Foundation.
He was kicked off of NRO and out of the American Enterprise Institute.

Jenfidel on July 26, 2010 at 2:16 PM

Update III: Greg Sargent claims that Ezra’s reply makes this a non-story, and that the Daily Caller is pandering to conservative media.

Ezra Klein’s statement made me spray my computer screen. I can’t help but be reminded of that cop (Claude Rains?) in Casablanca: “I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on here!”

rspock on July 26, 2010 at 2:17 PM

To my knowledge, Frum has never been a part of the Heritage Foundation.
He was kicked off of NRO and out of the American Enterprise Institute.

Jenfidel on July 26, 2010 at 2:16 PM

Oh. Right. It was AEI. He was not kicked off NRO. He left on his own. At least, that’s what both sides said.

gh on July 26, 2010 at 2:24 PM

Further proof that Palin is who the left fears most. Do we really think their assessment of her and her influence has changed much since September 2008? If anything, she’s only become more of a threat.

I wish all of the lazy people who only get their info from the MSM were hearing about all of this. It’s quite illuminating. I suppose it will be up to all of us to educate the people around us, since the biased media can’t be bothered to do its job.

Speaking of, this is the money quote, IMO:

But it seems to me that a concerted effort on the part of the left partisan press could be useful.

NoLeftTurn on July 26, 2010 at 2:26 PM

Missy on July 26, 2010 at 2:15 PM

I don’t think Weigel is a conservative. At best he’s a libertarian of some kind.

gh on July 26, 2010 at 2:27 PM

He was kicked off of NRO and out of the American Enterprise Institute.

Jenfidel on July 26, 2010 at 2:16 PM

Right that was it.

Thanks!

sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 2:35 PM

It has been my belief that all these coordinated (now we have proof) attacks against Sarah has an effect on some of our weaker sisters (pun intended) who, like the Ruling Class of Republicans look to these liberal writers and want to appear as smart as leftys are and Sarah received attacks from within the party parroting the liberals.

Herb on July 26, 2010 at 2:36 PM

I don’t think Weigel is a conservative. At best he’s a libertarian of some kind.

gh on July 26, 2010 at 2:27 PM

No, I don’t think he is either, but he was purporting to report news from the right, while dishing to Journolist under the radar. So Klein may have thought Frum would be valuable in a similar way. And certainly Frum (and others like him) did seem simpatico with the J-Listers as far as Palin was concerned.

Missy on July 26, 2010 at 3:01 PM

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”

Goebbels would be so proud.
MississippiMom on July 26, 2010 at 1:08 PM

So would Lenin:

A lie told often enough becomes the truth.
Vladimir Lenin

Isn’t it funny how Statists all have the same tactics?

Chip on July 26, 2010 at 3:09 PM

If members of a media organization explicitly agree to tilt campaign coverage for the specific purpose of tearing down one candidate and/or building up another, why does that not constitute an in-kind contribution to a campaign?
Chuckles3 on July 26, 2010 at 2:05 PM

If anything, it’s journalism malpractice – the people who seemed to have collaborated to do that should be drummed out of the profession, never to work in that field again.

Chip on July 26, 2010 at 3:13 PM

“What’s wrong with journalists colluding to force a political message through their reporting?”

Read Benjamin Franklin’s autobiography.

crosspatch on July 26, 2010 at 12:02 PM

There’s nothing wrong with it per se; it’s been going on since the country’s founding, and it actually used to be much worse than it is now. The problem is that the press today tries to hold itself out as impartial and fair and they’re not. If they would own up to their bias, OK, but they don’t. That’s why we need Fox, which makes no bones about offering the other POV. And it’s why their ratings dwarf the other nets. There’s only one right-leaning network. There’s about a dozen left-leaning ones. Do the math.

Also, can we stop letting this dim troll AnninCA hijack this thread? WTF cares about Bill Clinton and Ken Starr?

NoLeftTurn on July 26, 2010 at 3:13 PM

Journalists enjoy a freedom that is unique under the Constitution. They appear to be abusing that privilege here with this JournoList stuff. No, I don’t mean by merely talking to each other KiPow and KaPa, so settle your panties down. I mean that they colluded and conspired to fabricate stories that heavily influenced a presidential election. I expect them to talk, but when someone is saying “repeat after me” and launching into talking points that are subsequently gone over and over and over again in many outlets that happen to be associated with, shocka!, JournoList members, then there is some smoke. The media rests upon two pillars, the first is their freedom and independence, the second is their reputation. They have hacked away at both in this instance and have not improved the profession of journalism one bit.

ted c on July 26, 2010 at 3:27 PM

“This speech is gangbusters,” wrote Ari Melber of the Nation. “Her tone is pitch perfect.” Adele Stan of the Media Consortium agreed: “Palin is golden.”

Here’s another document allegedly found deep in the journolist archives:

MEMO TO “NUANCED” CONSERVATIVES

FROM: YOUR LEFTIST FRENEMIES

To those conservatives who call other conservatives who have, (in the great, but of course, scorned by us, American tradition), chosen to enthusiatically support and encourage a fellow American to run for higher office, and have received disdain and even name calling from these same “enlightened” conservatives in the best Leftist “birther” tradition, (the perjorative “Palinista” comes to mind) —

Please continue your divisive name calling in the service of your “superior” conservative intellect in recognizing how “unelectable” is Sarah Palin.

Also, continue to blind yourselves to our relentless broadcasts of fear of Sarah Palin, both implicitly, through our endless shock and awe campaign designed to destroy Palin’s political career, and explicity, in our own private intercommunications, which have been unfortunately revealed.

Please also continue to be incredibly stupid in ignoring the fact that our shock and awe campaign, which would have destroyed any other individual within weeks, has seen Sarah Palin take it on, refudiate all charges, and come out stronger than before. She also has been vetted more thoroughly than can be imagined, has come up squeaky clean -and has even sent a few corruptocrats running – some to prison sentences.

Many, if not most conservatives, as with those ghastly, racist teabaggers, (who we also must destroy), support Sarah overwhelmingly, and deep down we realize that they do so with solid reason and ample proof of her considerable intellect and abilities, demonstrated almost daily.

Unlike, it seems, with you, we know who our enemies are, and readily (among ourselves) acknowledge their strengths so we know how to attack them.

Most thinking conservatives get it. For the few that don’t, this memo is for you.

We know you are secretly afraid that we on on the Left will lump you in and label you as we have with the rest of those fanatic Palinista benighted rubes, so, by all means, please continue with your arguments in support of other candidates. That is your right and not very effective against a multiple threat such as Palin. But, what we do think is effective, and what we would like you to continue to do is to divide and personally insult anyone whom you deem as too much a Palin supporter, as we on the Left do daily.

In other words, keep up the good work, our precious USEFUL IDIOTS!!!

tigerlily on July 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM

Lookie here:

Journey into the Media’s Heart of Darkness
Today at 12:36pm

How ironic that on a day when we celebrate the 20th anniversary of the enactment of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, The Daily Caller released 15 pages of JournoListers’ email exchanges about a dark and demented conspiracy regarding my son, Trig.

It’s tough to fittingly describe these numerous members of the mainstream media who actively engaged in the debate about this conspiracy back when I was first introduced as John McCain’s running mate, and it’s impossible to legitimize any “prominent” media publication that continues to traffic in this bizarre narrative today. It wasn’t just a few fringe characters in that JournoList discussion. It included writers for major newspapers, magazines, and online news publications. Those participating in this immature exchange in attempts to plant seeds of doubt and falsely accuse even included a famous historian.

This JournoList exchange exposes the warped nature of today’s media, thus explaining why many of us are forced, in fairness to the public, to utilize other mediums to communicate until the mainstream media wakes up and begins respecting the public’s intelligence and desire for truth in reporting. There is a sickness and darkness in today’s liberal media. With revelations like the JournoList exchanges, may the light keep shining to expose the problem.

It’s always darkest before the dawn. My hope, therefore, is that today, marking the anniversary of our nation’s attempt to show respect for our brothers and sisters, sons and daughters with special needs, will also mark the beginning of a new, more respectful discourse among members of our media who at least aspire to be fair and objective.

Sarah Palin

Brian1972 on July 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Brian1972 on July 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM

awesome. thx for posting that.

ted c on July 26, 2010 at 4:21 PM

What if you’re playing dumb to derail the explosive impact of this story?

Sorry, she’s not playing, lol.

xblade on July 26, 2010 at 4:28 PM

Palin has commented on this story on Facebook.

VidOmnia on July 26, 2010 at 4:54 PM

For all the mocking the Left has done regarding Palin’s supposed lack of smarts, some of the educated people on the jlist are unbelievably stupid or dense.

Found this comment on one:

David Roberts
Sept 8, 2008, 3:34pm

….Everyone here is a /journalist /or an /independent analyst/. Their job is to /say what they think/, not to support Obama. Suggest that they focus on more electorally helpful — and equally true — messages, and they will bridle.

There simply is nothing on the left like the partisan media on the right. The left has no media soldiers, only ironically distanced media observers. “…
http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/26/raw-journolist-emails-on-palins-first-miscue/3/#ixzz0upO4CiZC

Do they really believe that? The fact that the posters there consider THEIR side to be the Obama side disqualifies all of them as distanced media observers or journalists.

katiejane on July 26, 2010 at 6:08 PM

I think the Journolist story has run its course.

So, they had a place where they gathered and expressed their real opinions. And it turns out that they are incredibly opinionated and immature.

Where’s the real news here?

AnninCA on July 26, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Can I have some of the banana you’re smoking?

Del Dolemonte on July 26, 2010 at 6:22 PM

There goes my pork dinner dammit! I want these airheads fired, fired and FIRED! Each of their mug faces is worthy of a bar’s dart game; I printed their faces from the American Thinker. I am sorry, but Sarah has got to sue. These people must pay her back, and must pay back to the state of Alaska.

Take from their direct deposits to her legal defense fund. After all, they have no defense whatsoever after this blow-by-blow to shun conservatives by conspiring, scheming and throw their diplomas to the mud. If the reporter that did not want to follow the directives of Journo’s founder didn’t care, why should I?

Because that was an assault to her personally, to her character, her convictions and spirituality. Because her husband, although stood by her thick and thin, has had tremendous amount of restraint to fire back at those who criticize his family. Against their children, no matter the age, no matter if they serve in the Armed Forces or not.

I am sick, sick sick of these bozos that keep some Americans dormant in their continued ineptitude of chugging down false information, misleading and crosses the mocking line. Why is she and her family on ET? She’s faced too much heat, and us Palinistas have been restraint enough.

Dunno if I am ban-worthy, but I don’t care. Ed, you better bring your best game face to the plate because you know that HotAir, Boss Emeritus as well as smaller blogs will weather a severe storm. Say it like it is, prove it and let that hot air hit the fans of the Won. Enough already!

Not even W. faced this same amount of agenda (IMHO)!

ProudPalinFan on July 26, 2010 at 6:25 PM

Is Buffy Wicks on this list?

Buy Danish on July 26, 2010 at 6:25 PM

Of course, the enormous, unlimited monetary value of the free political advertising disguised as news contributed to Zero’s campaign by these so-called journalists will be another massive election fraud sleazy Eric Holder will be very careful to ignore.

viking01 on July 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM

I’m a little surprised Allah and some of the other Palin critics haven’t realized how silly they look repeating the same liberal smears that the journolist who created them don’t even believe themselves.

Journolisters see Palin deliver a brilliant and effective speech that leaves them amazed at her prowess. They invent smears and talking points to belittle her that sexists like Allah and some HA posters desperately reach for because they have no actual facts to criticize Palin effectively.

Seeing some of her biggest critics drool over her abilities is amusing and disgusting at the same time. How they can so willfully rush to smear such an impressive woman makes you wonder what they are willing to do to get their agenda accomplished.

Mr Purple on July 27, 2010 at 2:16 AM

Journolisters = wussy, girly-men, boyly-girls (the few among them).

I can’t imagine a weaker bunch of people than these Journolisters. Their very organization bespeaks of weak, sneaky, conniving losers.

Lourdes on July 27, 2010 at 5:25 AM

Journolisters see Palin deliver a brilliant and effective speech that leaves them amazed at her prowess. They invent smears and talking points to belittle her that sexists like Allah and some HA posters desperately reach for because they have no actual facts to criticize Palin effectively.

Seeing some of her biggest critics drool over her abilities is amusing and disgusting at the same time. How they can so willfully rush to smear such an impressive woman makes you wonder what they are willing to do to get their agenda accomplished.

Mr Purple on July 27, 2010 at 2:16 AM

I don’t agree with that.

The Journolisters do.not.know.WHAT a compliment is.

They’ll write anything about Palin and have and likely will in trying to do anything to maintain cover. By “cover” I mean, posing as respectable opinion where no respectable source exists.

Lourdes on July 27, 2010 at 5:27 AM

I think the Journolist story has run its course.

Oh, riiiiggght. And John McCain had to be the GOP nominee in ’08. And Michelle Obama was “gorgeous.” And Barack Obama was “a Constitutional scholar” and “smart”. And, and, and…

The Journolist is just panting to be disappeared. Note that the Leftwing media is utterly silent on them and it and the rest of us know why.

It’s the silence of termites in the framing.

Lourdes on July 27, 2010 at 5:30 AM

“What’s wrong with journalists colluding to force a political message through their reporting?”

Read Benjamin Franklin’s autobiography.

crosspatch on July 26, 2010 at 12:02 PM

There’s nothing wrong with it per se; it’s been going on since the country’s founding, and it actually used to be much worse than it is now. The problem is that the press today tries to hold itself out as impartial and fair and they’re not. If they would own up to their bias, OK, but they don’t. That’s why we need Fox, which makes no bones about offering the other POV. And it’s why their ratings dwarf the other nets. There’s only one right-leaning network. There’s about a dozen left-leaning ones. Do the math.

Also, can we stop letting this dim troll AnninCA hijack this thread? WTF cares about Bill Clinton and Ken Starr?

NoLeftTurn on July 26, 2010 at 3:13 PM

The Journolist is comprised of people employed in (so we’ve assumed) journalism. Journalism does not exist to CREATE INFORMATION, but to report on existing information.

Which is exactly what the Journolist did not respect: they did not refuse to CREATE information but, instead, did so and then presented it as “news” or “reported” information.

All the while, it was nothing more than political opinion being pushed upon media (and pervasively throughout it) as “news” (which it was not).

That’s something very, very wrong and not even tolerable in media.

Labelling pieces of opinion “Op-Ed” (“Opinion-Editorial”) is one thing when opinion is presented but the Journolisters conspired to CREATE SOCIO=POLITICAL INFORMATION and the present it, instead, cloaked as “news”.

It was and remains a despicable conspiratorial abuse of media. Utterly unforgivable. Every individual on Journolist should never work in media again. Ever.

Lourdes on July 27, 2010 at 5:34 AM

I would be letting down my maternal forebearers (pun intended) if I did not point out the indoctrination among this J-List crew as to Down Syndrome and “older” women giving birth.

My grandmother was the next to last of 12 children. Her mother was 38 when she was born. That was in 1880. None of the children had Down Syndrome.

That same grandmother had my mother when she was 38 years old. My Mom, born in 1918, was the next to last child. Her younger brother was born when my grandmother was 42. None of Mom’s family had Down Syndrome.

My Mom had me — her one and only child — when she was 43-3/4 years old. I don’t have Down Syndrome. In fact, way back in 1962, my Mom was worried about being an older mother. The OB/GYN said not to worry, that he had patients of all ages that gave birth to Mongoloid children (as they were called then) and she had no more reason to think she would have a DS baby than anyone else.

On the flip, my husband’s sister Mary is DS. She was born when my late mother-in-law was 28. She calls me Mom so I guess I have a DS kid. I’m 48 and Mary is 49 — you figure it out. :p

Greyledge Gal on July 27, 2010 at 7:24 AM