GOP starting to worry about Angle’s campaign against Reid

posted at 6:42 pm on July 26, 2010 by Allahpundit

The good news? She’s a solid fundraiser, hauling in more than $2.5 million in the second quarter. The bad news? Er, most everything else. Lest you think this is a hit piece by CQ Politics — and given the recent polling trends, you shouldn’t — Matt Lewis tweeted a few hours ago that he’s also hearing grumbling from conservatives about her lackluster campaign. Weak organization wouldn’t matter much against an incumbent as loathed as Reid, I think, if she were a more conventional candidate. But as a tea-party star with an eye to eliminating Social Security and the Department of Education (positions which have now been quietly revised on the campaign website), her staff has its work cut out for it.

“It’s dysfunctional,” a Nevada Republican added, when asked to give an assessment of the Angle campaign. “She can still win, but the operation seems odd at best.”…

“It gets down to pure message discipline, and she doesn’t have it,” a second Nevada Republican said. “There’s no one in the campaign to enforce it.”

This GOP operative, no stranger to Silver State campaigns, said he’s unfamiliar with senior staffers running Angle’s campaign. A second Republican, this one based in Washington, lamented that Las Vegas-based Mike Slanker, considered by many to be Nevada’s premier Republican consultant, is working for Linda McMahon’s Senate campaign in Connecticut…

Republican sources say Cornyn is working with Angle in an attempt to get her to hire a team of capable operatives. But, said the Republican operative with experience in Nevada campaigns, Angle’s ability to raise money — the one thing she has proved to be adept at since winning the primary –leaves Cornyn without the leverage to force Angle to hire a team of his choosing.

I still think she wins if she’s close in the final week, as last-minute deciders will contemplate six more years of Reid and shiver. But that’s only if she’s close; J.D. Hayworth, another grassroots favorite facing an extremely vulnerable incumbent, arguably stands to benefit the same way but his polls are tanking as public perceptions of his kookiness have grown. In fact, ironically, the one tea-party star who’s weathered the left’s inevitable kook charges thus far and maintained a comfortable lead is … Rand Paul, who took a beating for a solid week over his comments on the Civil Rights Act.

I’m interested in hearing what you guys think about the CQ piece. Better to have Angle be entirely who she is — her own staff, her heartfelt positions, rough edges and all — or should the national party move in after the primary to maximize her electability (especially with Reid’s seat as the prize)? If sacrificing purity in the interests of winning is okay, how far does that principle extend?


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eliminating Social Security and the Department of Education

I’m for privatizeing social security. I do agree about eliminatiing the department of Education. I would also like to see the department of energy go my the waste side has will.

N15PCA on July 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Personally haven’t seen enough of Angle to place a bet, but she’s better off to say as little as possible, other than to remind voters of Dingy Harry’s record. If she wanders away from that strategy she risks losing.
Meanwhile she can sharpen her skills by doing some pouncing of her own, as Reid continues to praise himself and the President for doing such a great job. Unbelievable.
Reid’s campaign will pounce on any stray morcel that falls from her lips, so we shall see how well she can chew with her mouth closed.

Randy

williars on July 26, 2010 at 7:39 PM

bacadog: thanks for the encouraging words. Every district where we can oust a Dem, we are better off. are you local?

kelley in virginia on July 26, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Which is exactly why the same old garbage will continue forever until we’re Zimbabwe.

ddrintn on July 26, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Unless we’re Japan.

dedalus on July 26, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Japan’s on the same route. As is Europe.

ddrintn on July 26, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Oh, you mean supporting another tea party freak like Rubio, or are you referring to coming to the aid of the wise moderate Charlie Crist?

ddrintn on July 26, 2010 at 7:25 PM

I like Rubio. But he’s part of “THE ESTABLISHMENT”, so can you really call him a “tea party freak”? Don’t think so.

Rubio’s a good mix of conservatism and “establishmentism”. He knows what to say and when to say it, and especially what NOT to say. If Sharron Angle was a Rubio-like tea partier, I’d be rooting for her 110%. Hell, I even like Rand Paul. He sticks his foot in his mouth a lot, but he’s a step in the right direction.

NoStoppingUs on July 26, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Angle has me worried.

Ricohoc on July 26, 2010 at 7:44 PM

I like Rubio. But he’s part of “THE ESTABLISHMENT”, so can you really call him a “tea party freak”? Don’t think so.

He’s establishment? LOL Riiiiiight. Which is why the establishment backed him from the get-go.

ddrintn on July 26, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Angle doesn’t worry me as much as Reid-ACORN thievery. Reid is a professional scumbag and will literally do anything necessary to win. Without cheating at the ballot box, Nevada Republicans could run a skunk against Reid and win.

Keemo on July 26, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Republican sources say Cornyn is working with Angle in an attempt to get her to hire a team of capable operatives. But, said the Republican operative with experience in Nevada campaigns, Angle’s ability to raise money — the one thing she has proved to be adept at since winning the primary –leaves Cornyn without the leverage to force Angle to hire a team of his choosing.

Thar’s your money quote. Wanting to leverage her to his RINO ways.

AH_C on July 26, 2010 at 7:50 PM

The national should move in to attack Reid and his positions. He just gave them a gift at the Netroots conference where he specifically expressed support for a public healthcare option and outright lied that Social Security is not going bankrupt. If the Angle campaign won’t take advantage of this, the RNC must and run ads attacking Reid, reminding people how wrong he is on the issues.

Only Angle can define herself, but anyone can attack Reid and isolate him on the issues. The national party needs to do what they can to help her out.

Daemonocracy on July 26, 2010 at 7:51 PM

I could give a flying F**K what the GOP establishment thinks.Angles will win with out those pansy waist jerks.

thmcbb on July 26, 2010 at 7:53 PM

I’ve said it before here, I’ll say it again: Angle is likely going to be the major failure of the Tea Party come November.

Too many people here are willing to engage in cognitive dissonance when it comes to elections. “The Nevada voters can’t POSSIBLY consider re-electing Reid!!!”

Oh, yes, they can, if they believe that his tea-party-approved GOP candidate is a kook.

Newt Gingrich gets a lot of flack on this site, and some of it is very justified, but he’s not really wrong in having a philosophy of “ultimately, you have to nominate someone who can win the damn election.” That doesn’t mean completely sacrificing one’s values for victory (which was what Newt’s sin was last year with Scozzaflava), but it DOES mean having to compromise on SOME of those values if the end result will NOT be an embarrassing defeat to one of the most hated Democrats in Congress. There were other candidates in the GOP primary who were quite conservative, thank you very much, but because they weren’t “tea party approved”, we get Angle, who increasingly looks like she’s going to lose. You’re not on solid ground where your hopes for victory increasingly dwindle down to the hope that the voters just can’t stomach another six years of a politician as despised as Dingy Harry.

Vyce on July 26, 2010 at 7:59 PM

He’s establishment? LOL Riiiiiight. Which is why the establishment backed him from the get-go.

ddrintn on July 26, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Rubio was the Florida House Speaker. There’s not that many other elected officials in FL more influential than that. He’s not the preferred establishment candidate, but he’s not some random nobody.

Apologetic California on July 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Palin has not endorsed Angle. Wonder why?

VidOmnia on July 26, 2010 at 6:48 PM

She is smart enough to see a loser as a loser. Palin also seems to believe in party-loyalty. It’s one thing to support an insurgency out of conservative principles, it’s quite another to lend a hand to a power-seeking selfish usurper, who cares nothing for the good of the party.

The race in NV is lost. The imperative now is for the GOP to erect a firewall around Angle to contain the damage.

year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 8:01 PM

I wouldn’t have a problem with the establishment GOP coming in and giving her some pointers. It’s not like you are born knowing how to run a campaign. Mrs. Angle is the candidate that the Republicans in Nevada have chosen. Like I said in the headlines, the RNC should be helping her as penance for endorsing Charlie Crist before the state primary. That said, can they at least shut up and quit expressing their concerns? Is that “See I told you” going to do anything for them in November?

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 8:04 PM

Rubio was the Florida House Speaker. There’s not that many other elected officials in FL more influential than that. He’s not the preferred establishment candidate, but he’s not some random nobody.

Apologetic California on July 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Neither is Angle, from what I gather.

ddrintn on July 26, 2010 at 8:05 PM

The race in NV is lost.

year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Shades of Dingy Harry!

ddrintn on July 26, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Winning doesn’t mean anything if all you get are the same slobbering GOP big government hacks as the so-called victory.

At least the socialists are honest about what they are!

sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 7:09 PM

So better to have a REALLY big government Dem in office? It’s time to face facts: this country is not returning to the halcyon days of no SS and no Department of Education. Ever. The vast majority of people like them, and you will not change their minds because they pay only passing attention to politics and “Candidate X WANTS YOU TO EAT CAT FOOD WHILE YOUR CHILDREN ARE UNEDUCATED” is a better soundbyte than a logical, thought-out case for decentralization. We need to accept this and move on, and halt the damage that the Dems will continue to inflict should they keep winning.

combatwombat on July 26, 2010 at 8:11 PM

The race in NV is lost. The imperative now is for the GOP to erect a firewall around Angle to contain the damage.

year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Oh f*cking please. She’s down by a couple of points against the Senate Majority leader. Not even Thune was this close until the end. She needs to be like…Rand Paul and know which battles she chooses to fight. Do that, and the seat’s hers.

Apologetic California on July 26, 2010 at 8:12 PM

We need to accept this and move on, and halt the damage that the Dems will continue to inflict should they keep winning.

combatwombat on July 26, 2010 at 8:11 PM

Do the Republicans actually intend to halt the damage the Democrats are causing? Up til now it looks like they make a show of doing so, but tend to go along with the Democrats when push comes to shove.

sharrukin on July 26, 2010 at 8:17 PM

How hard is it run a campaign on the most powerful man in Senate unable to do anything for Nevada. Is their unemployment rate lower than most? He has been Mr. Obama’s lacky. If Gov. Palin won’t endorse Mrs. Angle, she may want to privately council her that bring in the professionals is good idea.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 8:17 PM

year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Love that fighting spirit. I hope your name indicates that you are in Australia.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Palin also seems to believe in party-loyalty. It’s one thing to support an insurgency out of conservative principles, it’s quite another to lend a hand to a power-seeking selfish usurper, who cares nothing for the good of the party.

She endorsed John McCain. No conservative principles there; given McCain’s treatment of his party, you can’t say she endorsed him out of party loyalty.

McCain is a power seeking selfish usurper who sold out his own party for good press. Why did she endorse him? Are you saying she’s stupid? Because that’s been my arguement; she’s either loathsomely cynical, or stupid. If you’re being serious, your comment makes no sense, because Palin’s endorsement of McCain makes no sense if she truly is a conservative.

austinnelly on July 26, 2010 at 8:19 PM

If sacrificing purity in the interests of winning is okay, how far does that principle extend?

You don’t need to draw a line now, but you need to defeat Reid now…send in the big dogs, and put Reid down as quick as possible, bury him.

right2bright on July 26, 2010 at 8:21 PM

How could the repugnicans mess up the race againsr Hairy Reed ? By nominating a woman so painfully stupid she makes Palin sound like Margaret Thatcher , instead of Margaret from Dennis the menace.

borntoraisehogs on July 26, 2010 at 8:25 PM

austinnelly on July 26, 2010 at 8:19 PM

McCain gave a virtual unknown the chance to be the Vice President of the United States. Many say she is the reason he lost. I don’t believe that but he honored her and it wouldn’t have said much about her character not to stand with him.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 8:25 PM

thmcbb on July 26, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting “LALALALALALALALALALALALALA” is not a winning political strategy.

JohnGalt23 on July 26, 2010 at 8:48 PM

She needs to move to the center.

True_King on July 26, 2010 at 8:50 PM

McCain is a power seeking selfish usurper who sold out his own party for good press. Why did she endorse him? Are you saying she’s stupid? Because that’s been my arguement; she’s either loathsomely cynical, or stupid. If you’re being serious, your comment makes no sense, because Palin’s endorsement of McCain makes no sense if she truly is a conservative.

austinnelly on July 26, 2010 at 8:19 PM

That was an observation. You have to ask Sarah for those answers that you seek. Clearly, her sense of loyalty towards McCain factored into her endorsement. Do I have a problem with that? No. Loyalty matters. It’s one of the bedrocks of conservatism. You don’t go and betray people for no good reason. And that was exactly what happened in Nevada. Sharron Angle stabbed the state GOP in the back. We had a good conservative candidate who would have beaten Reid by a comfortable margin. But now, out of complete caprice, we’re going to lose that important seat. For freaking nothing.

year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 8:50 PM

I live in Ohio and Blackwell lost to Strickland for governor in a landslide. Blackwell was much more qualified it wasn’t funny. If the people are that stupid well then they get Obama.

lilium on July 26, 2010 at 9:04 PM

Angle needs to make the campaign about Dirty Harry, not herself.

Social Security is always the 3rd rail. Too many people depend on it to risk saying anything without first strongly asserting that nobody over 50 should be affected one dime.

notagool on July 26, 2010 at 9:06 PM

Would someone please explain to me what’s so kooky about wanting to privatize Social Security and wanting to get rid of the complete piece of crap known as Jimmy Carter’s Department of Education. I mean, come on, the Dep. of Education has done what for America in thirty years?

To hell with the RINO’s. Let her speak her piece. If Reid wins then we can all debate purity vs. electability. Until then, purity.

MaxMBJ on July 26, 2010 at 9:08 PM

Better to have Angle be entirely who she is — her own staff, her heartfelt positions, rough edges and all — or should the national party move in after the primary to maximize her electability (especially with Reid’s seat as the prize)? If sacrificing purity in the interests of winning is okay, how far does that principle extend?

This woman has a message that can resonate, she just needs to articulate it in more than just slogans. The stars are aligned for a small government, low taxes, limited regulation, business friendly, fiscally responsible message, but she can’t get it across! I don’t know who’s running her campaign, but whoever it is needs to be kicked out on their ear. Reid practically gave her the independents and she seems to be doing everything she can to give them back. As much as I like what the Tea Party stands for, if they can’t get the job done then it’s time to move in the people who can. She needs to run a Scott Brown/Bob McDonnell style campaign. Focus in like a laser on the issues, articulate her positions in a way that appeals to independents and moderate Democrats, and speak directly to the people of Nevada. I don’t care who’s working behind the scenes, just get the damn job done. This really boils my blood. To think that we can take down yet another Democratic Senate Majority Leader and send a strong message to this corrupt administration, and yet here we are. Reid with approval ratings in the toilet and Angle failing to capitalize. This would be the most disappointing loss of the election cycle.

ncconservative on July 26, 2010 at 9:09 PM

Here’s another thing. Angle’s down by two points in the latest poll. None of these polls are registering voter enthusiasm. Ras just uses his likely voter formula. Most are all voters.

The voter enthusiasm gap in this election is going to be worth 10 to 15 points per Republican. IOW, you’d have to be down big double digits to be out of it. If you’re down two, you’re really up eight or more.

MaxMBJ on July 26, 2010 at 9:11 PM

Some of you don’t understand that when running a statewide campaign in the general election you need more experienced campaigners and Angle needs to step it up herself. The idea she can run on the same agenda that we ran on in the primary and depend on the Tea Party is going to get us six more years of Reid if the GOP is not careful.

So far she has run a horrible campaign and needs to start listening to the people that run winning campaigns for a living. Most Tea Party people are fairly new to politics and frankly don’t seem to have a clue how to win a general election where you have to appeal to more than conservatives.

Do you all understand what it takes to win elections in the general? You have to appeal to Indy’s and disgruntled Dems to get elected something she is not doing and her website is 2nd rate. If this is the type of candidate we are getting from the Tea Party, we are going to blow 2010 because of people with egos too big to accept advise.

She needs to get experienced people into help before it is too late and the GOP blows a chance to take NV and defeat Reid. Tea Party should have stayed focused getting out their message and out of individual races. How do people know these Tea Party people are even who they claim to be now? Perfect opportunity for moles to get in with a candidate from the Dems and blow a race. I believe Reid is dirty enough to do just that.

PhiKapMom on July 26, 2010 at 9:18 PM

McCain gave a virtual unknown the chance to be the Vice President of the United States. Many say she is the reason he lost. I don’t believe that but he honored her and it wouldn’t have said much about her character not to stand with him.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 8:25 PM

This is a bit off topic, but what you said about Palin is really not true. Even before McCain picked her, she was known to those in the know as next Republican superstar. I think Bill Kristol was the first to mention her. The debate, as I recall, was always whether it makes sense to push her into the big league prematurely.

year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 9:22 PM

Sharron Angle is learning on the fly. She’s fresh out of the wrapper in politics and has the SML on his heels. She needs HELP, not derision, not criticism, except constructive criticism. Fund her, go door to door for her, make calls for her, stuff envelopes, support her in your comments, and help her out. Unlike the media, WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS….

ted c on July 26, 2010 at 7:24 PM

couldn’t get through all the comments – troll galore, looks like we have some testy lefties – I don’t have to wonder why.

Remember, “I’d rather pick random from the phone book”

Sharron Angle, with all her issues, diamond in the rough, is eons better than the esteemed Senator Harry Reid. Be real and support her.

She won the primary didn’t she? She’s the candidate. Eons better than Reid. Put up and shut up.

seesalrun on July 26, 2010 at 9:26 PM

Let the media define the candidates and we are screwed. Like I tell my kids, I hope they don’t Mc Cain us in November.

It’s no time to divide, especially when the People have spoken.

seesalrun on July 26, 2010 at 9:29 PM

Sharron Angle was chosen in the primary by the very active voters in our state. Participation in the primary was very low.

Reid drew 75% of those voting in the Democrat primary with an astonishing 12% voting for “none of the above”.

Nevada has more registered Democrats than Republicans by about 100,000 especially in Clark County, which is in the south and where Las Vegas is.

Sharron is a Northern Nevada person and if she wins it will be because of the those in the north, the rural counties and independents in the south.

Remember that independents cannot vote in primary elections in Nevada, so they have no say who the candidates are for either party.

I voted for Sharron, mostly because I believe she is an honest conservative and politician. I am sick of voting against someone rather than for someone. She has been saddled by the media with a reputation as a kook, but she’s not, she just hasn’t learned the “game”.

The media here is all liberal. Though the Las Vegas Review Journal has a libertarian conservative editorial staff, many of their writers are liberal and they run a lot of liberal media articles from other news sources.

I have not lost hope in Sharron. Harry has his supporters, but as the long, hot summer winds down and the election gets close, more people will be paying attention.

She really has to do two things, pound Harry on the piss poor economy here and offer alternatives that are not too scary to the voters. Not everyone follows politics as closely as those who post here, so she has to avoid saying anything too off the wall. Voters can be cowards and will stay with the status quo rather than risk a newbie.

And she absolutely has to discredit Harry’s claim that we need him because he is the most powerful national politician Nevada has ever had. She absolutely must hit him hard with the fact that with all his power, Nevada ranks poorly all across the board.

Jvette on July 26, 2010 at 9:30 PM

So help me, if the Repubs blow November, you can call the USA toast. What’s wrong with these people?

MainelyRight on July 26, 2010 at 9:32 PM

The repub morons are fully capable of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. We need to clean house…. both sides, and get rid of career politicians. Bas++++ds!

ultracon on July 26, 2010 at 9:37 PM

MainelyRight on July 26, 2010 at 9:32 PM
I don’t normally feed trolls but here you go, troll.
Nobody called it toast.
Because unlike you – we believe in American Spirit, Resilience and Perseverance.

It would be nice though to get to a balance in Power come November so we can recognize our Country in 2012.

seesalrun on July 26, 2010 at 9:39 PM

Here’s another thing. Angle’s down by two points in the latest poll. None of these polls are registering voter enthusiasm. Ras just uses his likely voter formula. Most are all voters.

MaxMBJ on July 26, 2010 at 9:11 PM

No. What you don’t understand is that in a state like Nevada, the Dems’ GOTV machine can produce as many votes as money allows. Any close race we’ll inevitably lose. The only way we can beat them is to going in with a decisive lead.

As it is, we cannot win.

year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 9:45 PM

Ed – answering your question: message discipline is NOT “sacrificing purity” – it’s about what to emphasize during the short amount of time you have with the voters. Every candidate needs their own people and should keep the party apparatus at arms length. But to throw away institutional knowledge that can help you get elected is just STUPID.

rock the casbah on July 26, 2010 at 9:51 PM

Reid has given the opposition enough ammo to smother him in substative attack ads but, as usual, the Repubs can’t figure out how to leverage Reid’s idiocy.

His announcement of losing in Iraq should be enough to sink him if the Stupid Party had a clue.

Alas, not.

rickyricardo on July 26, 2010 at 9:57 PM

Republican sources say Cornyn is working with Angle

Would that be charlie crist lover cornyn? That’s a good sign. Any genuine conservative working person could run a campaign in this country now and clean up. These scumbag, professional politicians will screw the pooch and blow the opportunity to set the left back 10 years. And they will do it because they love pelosi, reid, frank and schumer more then they like the American people. Any of you Texas constituents been invited to cornyn’s Georgetown house? Been invited to his Texas house? Maybe if he ever went there you might.

as public perceptions of his kookiness have grown

Because squishy “conservative” pundits like bill bennett have taken shots at him. How many of you idiots who think bill bennett is great listened to him this morning when he kept getting all wet about the ny times admitting that they couldn’t prove it was tea party members who were shouting the n word (and I’d use the leftists magic word but for the squishy’s here at hot air who would censor my statement). Either he is an idiot or on the other side. The ny times played their typical ‘do you still beat your wife game”, pushed the lie that it was said at all and the so called brilliant “conservative” philosopher wet his pants thinking it was such a wonderful thing.

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 9:59 PM

Many say she is the reason he lost.

Cindy, Cindy, Cindy. My god!

mccain would have lost by 15 points if it were not for Palin. For conservatives, unfortunately, it is always a struggle between principle and having to choose the lesser of two evils. If mccain had not chosen Palin most true conservatives would not even have made the choice. It is the leftist narrative that somehow Palin hurt him. mccain is loyal to Palin because he knows that she saved him from humiliation.

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 10:05 PM

year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 9:22 PM

I am aware of the back story, the people here were very high on her possible selection. I, personally, was unaware of her. That said, Sen. McCain was still the catalyst. She was the right wing credibility to Sen. McCain’s squish. If people don’t think she owed Sen.McCain some loyalty, she apparently did. And I have no right to second guess her. People need to stop thinking that campaigns live and die on a single incident or remark. Even the best candidates will make errors.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 10:12 PM

The race in NV is lost. The imperative now is for the GOP to erect a firewall around Angle to contain the damage.

year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 8:01 PM

That sounds like Harry himself. “This war is lost”

Well, he was wrong. Come November we will see whether Year- of-the-dingo is a prophet or a Dingy Harry.

I still have great hope for this race.

KW64 on July 26, 2010 at 10:15 PM

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 10:05 PM

Oh darlin, I know. I personally think that TARP was the kiss of death for his campaign. I am just passing on one of the excuses the Left has and will continue to use against Gov. Palin. As for Bill Bennett, I like listening to him but the fact remains that for the inside the Beltway crowd the NYT’s will remain the paper of record until the doors close. Please, God, let it be sooner than later.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 10:15 PM

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 10:05 PM

And let me take a moment to tell you how happy I am to “see” you here again. You have been missed.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 10:17 PM

And let me take a moment to tell you how happy I am to “see” you here again. You have been missed.

Thank you, that truly is a compliment.

And I am always around here, I used to come here for solice from the insanity I heard elsewhere but it seems I hear the same stuff here and wind up ranting and then bolting.

I left a message for you last week. We have to get rid of ander crenshaw. With me being notorious in these patrs I’ve nominated you to unseat him.

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 10:26 PM

He’s establishment? LOL Riiiiiight. Which is why the establishment backed him from the get-go.

ddrintn on July 26, 2010 at 7:49 PM

He was speaker of the Florida House. I’d *love* to know what you classify as establishment/non-establishment.

And you blame “the establishment” for supporting the incumbent gov over the incumbent speaker? Try again.

So I assume you wouldn’t consider Boehner part of “the establishment”? Essentially its the same position on the federal level.

NoStoppingUs on July 26, 2010 at 10:26 PM

And I have no right to second guess her. People need to stop thinking that campaigns live and die on a single incident or remark. Even the best candidates will make errors.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 10:12 PM

Whoa whoa whoa. WTF? “no right to second guess her”?!?

No offense, but you’re psychotic. It’s people like you that have allowed people like Obama to get to where they are. You refuse to second guess her because she’s never wrong? Sheesh.. You need a reality check lady.

NoStoppingUs on July 26, 2010 at 10:28 PM

Do the Republicans actually intend to halt the damage the Democrats are causing?

You don’t get that yet? There are others who don’t get that yet? I’m going out in the yard and gonna eat oleander flowers till I can’t eat any more.

The repubican “leadership” are part of the ruling class. They are not true repubicans they are a branch of the ruling elite that tries to keep the wool pulled over our eyes. Every “tea party” candidate needs to be asked,”Will you support a whole scale change in the congressional leadership if you are elected?” boehner, mcconnel, cornyn and all their toadies hate us! Don’t you guys get that? We make their cushy little lives miserable. They prefer pelosi and reid to us. When has boehner, mcconnel, cornyn or any of their toadie lieutenants been attacked by name by pelosi, reid schumer and the rest of satan’s lot? Never! They attack Rush and Palin. That is who they are really afraid of because deep down they know that Rush and palin speak the truth and if it gets out the American people are not as stupid as they treat us. By the way, has boehner, mcconnel, cornyn disparaged by name most recently Rush or pelosi?

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Why did she endorse him? Are you saying she’s stupid? Because that’s been my arguement; she’s either loathsomely cynical, or stupid.

If you have to ask why she endorsed McCain, I think it’s safe to say you’re the stupid one

xblade on July 26, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Damn! Get it together, Angle. Harry’s gotta go.

Kissmygrits on July 26, 2010 at 10:45 PM

If people don’t think she owed Sen.McCain some loyalty, she apparently did. And I have no right to second guess her.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 10:12 PM

I don’t think there are that many policy different between the two. The gut issues for Sarah, I think, are abortion and military honor, both of which are McCain’s strong points. I honestly can’t recall Palin talking about immigration, the chief issue that people beat McCain over about.

year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 10:49 PM

uh, dear peacenprosperity, you do know that oleander is poisonous, even the smoke if it’s burned in a fire can kill. Beer is a better way to go.

Kissmygrits on July 26, 2010 at 10:51 PM

Run as lib lite Sharon. That always seems to work.

LibTired on July 26, 2010 at 10:58 PM

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 10:26 PM

I hope you don’t mean as a candidate, I don’t live in his district.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:04 PM

you do know that oleander is poisonous

That’s the point. I’m out of beer.

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 11:05 PM

I hope you don’t mean as a candidate, I don’t live in his district.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:04 PM

!!!!!!!!!

Stearns or brown!?

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 11:06 PM

NoStoppingUs on July 26, 2010 at 10:28 PM

Get a grip on yourself. I am talking about her personal decision to campaign with Sen. McCain for reelection. If and when she decides to run for office I will decide whether to support her based on the totality of her career. You guys need to ratchet this $hit back, I am not willing to die on every hill, I plan to pick my battles.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:07 PM

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 11:06 PM

Mica. Who for the most part is okay (if you don’t look at the dead animal he’s wearing on his head). He annoyed me before the health care vote, I suggested that he have numerous town halls to keep the dislike of the bill front and center. He whined that his district was too spread out. Gerrymandering has consequences. Wuss.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:10 PM

year_of_the_dingo on July 26, 2010 at 10:49 PM

I don’t know about the immigration issue either but she seems to be a strong support of Gov. Brewer. I think she would be a better bargainer for energy. I think she would at least bargain for the citizens, right now I feel like I am being ridden roughshod over.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:13 PM

NoStoppingUs on July 26, 2010 at 10:28 PM

Thanks for the psychotic label though. I am sure the regulars here got a hoot out of that. We just don’t get to laugh enough.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:15 PM

Who cares what she says! The main objective is to get Reid out!

Hobbes on July 26, 2010 at 11:16 PM

Oh. I thought Mica wa north of us. I used to keep track of their voting records in the Times Union but I don’t read the newspaper anymore. Stearns is to your west I guess and then you’ve got those two evil human beings grayson and brown snaking around north and central Florida in those gerrymandered districts. crenshaw is in the mid to upper 80 percentile in voting and he does not get involved in anything. I e-mailed to find out why he wasn’t in the republican study committee and they blew me off. I called his office when the republicans stayed in congress that time and pelosi turned the lights out and he ahd already left that morning and when I checked to see if he had any appearances that weekend here in town he had none. The guy, like lots of republicans, is up there to fill his coffers and could rally care less about us.

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 11:19 PM

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 11:19 PM

I am trying to remember a time when Mica voted incorrectly (reads did not obey), I think there was one time when he voted to have a bill come to the floor and then voted against it. He’s pretty good about keeping me informed but I will have to look up his congressional extracurricular-activities. You have to figure that anybody who whines about town halls is probably not a butt buster.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:30 PM

He was speaker of the Florida House. I’d *love* to know what you classify as establishment/non-establishment.

And you blame “the establishment” for supporting the incumbent gov over the incumbent speaker? Try again.

So I assume you wouldn’t consider Boehner part of “the establishment”? Essentially its the same position on the federal level.

NoStoppingUs on July 26, 2010 at 10:26 PM

The national GOP establishment. Who was initially supported by that establishment?

ddrintn on July 26, 2010 at 11:57 PM

The national GOP establishment. Who was initially supported by that establishment?

ddrintn on July 26, 2010 at 11:57 PM

Oh so state republican “establishment” candidates are ok, but federal “establishment” candidates are not?

You *do* realize that as of November 2nd, all of your tea party candidates who win officially become ‘establishment’ candidates, right? I assume in 2 years, you’ll use the same “throw every bum out!” argument, which includes all of your newly elected tea party reps?

The hypocrisy from you folks is amusing. And yes, Rubio is establishment. The fact that you can’t admit that proves you see the holes in your own argument and you are, in fact, ok with the establishment candidate when they are conservative. If that’s the case, then we’re on the same page.

“The establishment” candidate doesn’t necessarily have to be evil, though I understand it’s the tea parties first line of attack because it’s easy. Separating the good from the bad is difficult, but I implore you to be a filter, not a sponge. :-)

NoStoppingUs on July 27, 2010 at 12:16 AM

I am trying to remember a time when Mica voted incorrectly (reads did not obey), I think there was one time when he voted to have a bill come to the floor and then voted against it. He’s pretty good about keeping me informed but I will have to look up his congressional extracurricular-activities. You have to figure that anybody who whines about town halls is probably not a butt buster.

Cindy Munford on July 26, 2010 at 11:30 PM

“did not obey”? really? you *do* realize that you aren’t his only constituent, correct? Or is your ego that big that you truly believe what you say goes? That wouldn’t surprise me. Typical tea party attitude. “you work for us” = “do what i tell you to do or else!!1!1!1″

Arrogant, yet incredibly naive.

NoStoppingUs on July 27, 2010 at 12:19 AM

Sharron, don’t be like Rubio; suck it up and make the call to Sarah Palin. If you don’t you’ll probably lose. If you do, you’ll probably squeak it out.

technopeasant on July 27, 2010 at 12:30 AM

With the hatred of Reid off the charts here in Nevada, I have a very hard time seeing a Reid win. Wait till Sharron’s ads hit the airwaves and social media. I think she’ll win in the end.

Mojave Mark on July 27, 2010 at 12:45 AM

Be of good cheer. And CONTRIBUTE TO ANGLE!!

Right after the primary, in which Angle got 41% in a 12-way race (Lowden got 26 and Tark got 23) Rasmussen had Angle up over Reid 50 to 39. Ever since, Reid has been hammering Angle on TV and radio 24/7; he actually spent more than he took in last quarter! And yet it’s still a statistical dead heat (and it is VERY hot here in NV now).

Angle does have to sharpen her message, attack Reid more, and explain his lousy record. Reid can’t improve his image and can’t improve his campaign – he and his staff are ruthless pros and are already at full speed. Angle can only get better – much better at her message and responsiveness.

Biggest issue to hammer Reid with: Reid single-handedly gave 300,000 stimulus bill jobs to illegal aliens.

He was recently caught denying that illegal workers were a problem in Nevada (sic).

Reid now brags that he saved 22,000 jobs at CityCenter by “calling the bankers to make the loan” and criticizing Angle for saying “it’s not my job to create jobs” and that she wouldn’t have made the call. My response ad would be:

WHAT IS A SENATOR’S JOB?

Do you want Harry Reid deciding if your employer is a winner or a loser?

Do you want Harry Reid strong-arming banks to make bad business decisions in a bad economy?

Harry Reid picks winners and losers all the time. In his mind, that’s a Senator’s job – earmarks galore and influence peddling.

Harry Reid uses his influence to spend your taxes on HIS choice of companies and make them winners – while competing companies lose business.

Sharon Angle believes a Senator’s job is to set national tax and regulation policies that encourage ALL businesses – and let the free marketplace decide winners and losers.

This November let’s make Sharron Angle a winner, and Harry Reid a loser.

PS – CityCenter may be in foreclosure next year.

MGM Mirage reported total debt of $13 billion as of March 31, including $845 million in new notes due 2020 that were used to pay down debt due earlier.

PPS – several unions are looking at Angle after realizing that it isn’t Angle who’s responsible for 14.2% unemployment, and that Reid is actively courting illegal aliens!!

PPPS – CONTRIBUTE!!

fred5678 on July 27, 2010 at 1:02 AM

Sharon Angle sucks! Nevada Republicans have no political clue

conservador on July 27, 2010 at 3:33 AM

You don’t get that yet? There are others who don’t get that yet? I’m going out in the yard and gonna eat oleander flowers till I can’t eat any more.

The repubican “leadership” are part of the ruling class. They are not true repubicans they are a branch of the ruling elite that tries to keep the wool pulled over our eyes. Every “tea party” candidate needs to be asked,”Will you support a whole scale change in the congressional leadership if you are elected?” boehner, mcconnel, cornyn and all their toadies hate us! Don’t you guys get that? We make their cushy little lives miserable. They prefer pelosi and reid to us. When has boehner, mcconnel, cornyn or any of their toadie lieutenants been attacked by name by pelosi, reid schumer and the rest of satan’s lot? Never! They attack Rush and Palin. That is who they are really afraid of because deep down they know that Rush and palin speak the truth and if it gets out the American people are not as stupid as they treat us. By the way, has boehner, mcconnel, cornyn disparaged by name most recently Rush or pelosi?

peacenprosperity on July 26, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Seeing as I’m not a Marxist, it takes more than labeling someone a member of the “ruling class” to rouse my ire.

combatwombat on July 27, 2010 at 3:42 AM

Arrogant, yet incredibly naive.

NoStoppingUs on July 27, 2010 at 12:19 AM

You sure make a lot of judgments about people you know nothing about. You might want to look into a sense of humor. Text lacks nuance and it is obvious that you didn’t “get it” but peacenprosperity, a commenter of long standing, did. If you weren’t so busy trying to insult you might have noticed like minds. If picking fights with anonymous people on blogs is your deal, I’m not playing.

Cindy Munford on July 27, 2010 at 7:48 AM

Do the Republicans actually intend to halt the damage the Democrats are causing? Up til now it looks like they make a show of doing so, but tend to go along with the Democrats when push comes to shove.

sharrukin on July 26, 2010

The current GOP leadership wants the power that the Democrats have. They don’t give a rat’s a$$ about the electorate any more than the Democrats do. They know that big government equals big power for them. But I am not totally pessimistic. Whatever uncorrupted (not-yet-corrupted) politicians and small government candidates exist, they are Republicans. They need to be supported and kept on the right path until the corruption rots their souls and the time comes for them to go. A big source of that rot is the knowledge that 90% of the incumbents are reelected every cycle. Until we figure out how to stop that (term limits?) the rot will continue.
Even my beloved Sarah Palin would succumb eventually, but I believe she knows that danger. She has the heart and spirit of a founder and will resist the demons that have dragged so many down. Right now, I see that heart and spirit in few others.

Extrafishy on July 27, 2010 at 8:04 AM

A herd of elephants needs to come in an rescue Angle.

Buy Danish on July 27, 2010 at 8:23 AM

The myth of moderation. Crist, McCain, Graham, etc., all are nothing less than spineless practitioners of pragmatism, the kind of policy that has lead our nation to where it is today. Believe in SOMETHING. And belief in fiscal conservatism, free markets and small government while refusing to compromise away those principles, can save our constitutional republic. Nothing less. Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Scott Brown, George Voinovich, they all will continue the slide to destruction.

davecatbone on July 27, 2010 at 8:31 AM

The GOP better remember November like the RGA is doing.

There will be a house cleaning, and no polling information will put Harry Reid at leadership again. And if the folks of Nevada decided to put Harry back in a MINORITY Senate seat, I for one will never, ever let any voting citizen of that state remember what flecks of stupidity they have become. And any one of them who complains about their healthcare smelling like a rat’s behind will be told to, “suck it up brother/sister, it’s what you wanted you freaking idiot.”

Now. Moving on to more important business.

Sultry Beauty on July 27, 2010 at 3:39 PM

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