Oh my: Palin 28, Romney 18, Gingrich 17, Huckabee 13
posted at 4:08 pm on July 23, 2010 by Allahpundit
Via Conservatives 4 Palin, not only is this the best poll I’ve seen for her this year, it comes from the august precincts of The Economist.
Dude, is this happening?
Sarah Palin 28%
Mitt Romney 18%
Newt Gingrich 17%
Mike Huckabee 13%
Mitch Daniels 4%
Tim Pawlenty 1%
Mike Pence 1%
Haley Barbour 1%
John Thune 1%
No preference 17%
That’s a sample of Republicans, natch. Among tea-partiers, specifically, it’s Palin 26, Romney 19, Gingrich 16, and Huckabee 14. (Mitt does better among tea-partiers than among the GOP generally?) She also leads among a sample of all voters, albeit by only two points over Romney. Can’t tell if this represents a surge for her or if he’s simply fallen back a bit over time due to disgruntlement over RomneyCare, but great news for Palin supporters either way.
Do we dare discuss … the bad news? From the crosstabs:
12. Do you think Sarah Palin would have the ability to be an effective president?
Yes 28%
No 51%
Not sure 20%*
18. What do you think is Sarah Palin’s main priority?
What’s best for the country 23%
What’s best for her family 18%
What’s best for her career 49%
Something else 9%
That’s among all voters, who split 41/31 for Obama in a head-to-head match-up and 30/54 on the question of whether they think it’s likely that Palin would beat him if she wins the GOP nomination. The one bright spot in the crosstabs? When asked if the media has been harder on her, treated her the same, or gone easier on her than other politicians, the split is 47/18/22. For Obama it’s only 32/21/37 and for Hillary it’s 27/34/28. In other words, even among a sample of the general public that’s cool to the idea of her as president, there’s plenty of sympathy for how she’s been treated by the press. That’ll be a useful weapon for her if/when she runs and the frenzy of attacks begins, which explains why she was so sharp in rattling off her criticisms of the media to the Daily Caller yesterday. And it’s also a reminder of the point I made last week about her opponents needing to be careful not to condescend to her. No doubt some of this sympathy from the public is a backlash to media lefties unfairly accusing her of being some kind of dullard. That backlash can be transferred to candidates too, I’m sure.
From Alaska morning radio, here’s the latest on whether she’s running next year or not. Skip ahead to 3:50.
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AnninCa on July 24, 2010 at 9:29 AM
SHE HAS KILLER INSTINCTS, ACTUALLY
It’s amazing that so few people beside you and me see her as politically ruthless as she is. Perhaps, it’s the smile, charm, grace and charisma that fools so many or the MSM narrative that she is an idiot. But I saw it almost immediately.
As you might know I am a great fan of Tiger Woods even after his personal indiscretions. And one of the reasons I am is because of his sheer ruthlessness on the golf course to put away his opponents when gets a chance to do so. And I recognized that talent in Palin in short order as well.
One indication for me that told me how Palin treated politics is during the campaign she called politics a “business”. Very few politicians to my knowledge have ever said that. But I knew exactly what Palin was getting at, that politics was a game of you get eaten or you devour your enemy, and Palin understands the nature of politics better than most, and imho that is why she is a political genius and master strategist. Her timing is impeccable and her moves are always shrewd and pivotal. Among the GOP she has no equal.
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM
I saw it in that the VP candidate is supposed to play the “heavy.” Usually, women aren’t good at doing that because it tends to backfire politically. Hillary was unable to crack that nut, and I would have guessed she’d be the right personality to be able to do it.
Palin did with aplomb. LOL* She had NO problem taking on Obama on behalf of McCain.
You’ll notice nobody ever doubts that aspect of her. She’d be the one to articulate criticisms about him, and she couldn’t care less about the notion that she’s “divisive” on this. Who wouldn’t be? Unless you tiptoe, which will not work anyway, you’re going to be labeled divisive.
AnninCA on July 24, 2010 at 10:07 AM
By the way for those who think Palin is too young to run for the GOP nomination or run for POTUS under the Republican label, the last GOP candidate under 50 to gain the GOP nomination was Richard Nixon (age 47) and many at the time thought he only got the nomination at such a young age was because he was the sitting VP but the last Republican to serve in office as President who was under 50 was Theodore Roosevelt who was 1 and 1/2 months shy of his 43rd birthday when he took over after McKinley was assassinated. By the way Teddy’s face is on Mount Rushmore.
Sarah Palin will be 48 in the year 2012.
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 10:10 AM
AnninCA on July 24, 2010 at 10:07 AM
I support Sarah Palin for many reasons but a key reason for me is that she is completely devoid of “white guilt”, that she will now allow charges of racism or insensitivity deter her for going after Obama and placing him in her political crosshairs.
And why I do not back neither Romney nor Huckabee is that these men imho don’t have the balls to go toe to toe in the ring with the Messiah; they will treat him with kid gloves because he is the “champ”, hardly laying a punch on him similar to McCain and then letting the judges award Obama a unanimous decision because he is the Messiah.
If Palin loses to Obama in 2012 it will not because she has not laid a glove on him or bloodied him up and inflicted several bruises to his political body. She will be relentless and never give up and unlike her GOP opponents she will not be afraid to go for the knockout because she knows if it goes to a decision of the judges she could still lose in a split decision.
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 10:18 AM
I simply disagree, and I’m not the only one. In fact, far more agree with me than you. So don’t argue with me and act like it’s my problem when it’s actually hers.
Esthier on July 23, 2010 at 6:31 PM
What is wrong? Can’t stand on your own?
You post and post more drivel every day.
CWforFreedom on July 24, 2010 at 10:23 AM
I would say “He was very marginally more qualified to be POTUS because he ran the 2+ year marathon than if he didn’t.” In running for president he was surrounded by a cocoon of very good campaign people, the Chicago Machine. He was managed and coached every step of the way. He also ran against one of the most incompetent campaigns in American history, the McCain jalopy. I don’t believe McCain really wanted to win.
This reminds me of Moshe Dayan’s “yes, but see, we only have to fight arabs” comment. We also must remember that it’s easy to campaign for president when the old media is 95% on your side.
He is absolutely incompetent, but he is also stupid, and believes in failed 1900′s political ideologies.
slickwillie2001 on July 24, 2010 at 10:37 AM
By the way, does anybody really believe that after what was revealed in the last couple of days with Journolist that the MSM is pushing Palin to face Obama in 2012?
What probably is most surprising is that three organizations that have been perceived as at least being friendly to the Dems, PPP, Gallup and now Econ have shown favorable numbers for Palin. Could it be that these pollsters despite oversampling Dems and moderates consistently, can’t construct a poll any longer that keeps Palin’s numbers really in the tank?
Yes I know that PPP and Econ both show Palin’s UF as above 50 but when you look at her chances to gain the GOP nomination they are looking better every day. Could it be that our side is mainly comprised of rational human beings and not drones, that we realize that Palin’s high UF are due to the oversampling taking place in polls of Dems, liberals and moderates that these people would not in a hundred years vote for Palin anyway and to boot not for any other GOP nominee either as long as the Messiah is running in 2012.
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 10:39 AM
slickwillie2001 on July 24, 2010 at 10:37 AM
I associate INCOMPETENCE with someone being a victim of the Peter Principle. Show me where Obama has been INCOMPETENT. Hasn’t he got passed what he wanted to get passed? Hasn’t his government taken over the companies or regulated the financial institutions that it wanted to regulate. Hasn’t he bowed to the world leaders and dictators that he wanted to bow to?
No, imho Obama is not INCOMPETENT or STUPID. He knows exactly what he wants to accomplish and perhaps he should win an Academy Award for making us think he is INCOMPETENT.
Rush Limbaugh has him pegged right; he is fixated on transforming America and redistributing its income to its rightful owners. The INCOMPETENCE argument frankly dilutes our resolve to take down Obama, to make us feel sorry for him so to be charitable to him. Obama is unalloyed evil and as the Devil knows what he is doing so does Obama.
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 10:48 AM
They were wrong in 2008 by a pretty good margin when they picked Zero for president and they are wrong again in 2010. GO SARAH!
Herb on July 24, 2010 at 11:12 AM
Keep kicking Obama’s butt, Sarah!
That’s why interest in her is rising.
She fights.
Everyone else is just calculating.
profitsbeard on July 24, 2010 at 11:24 AM
Herb on July 24, 2010 at 11:12 AM
This is from the Public Policy Polling blog on Feb.17, 2010:
“We found that 59% of Americans-but only 30% of Republicans-don’t think Palin is qualified…but matched up against Obama, Sarah Palin gets 22% from people who don’t think she’s qualified to be President! From my perspective it’s astounding that such a significant portion of Americans are willing to vote for someone they don’t think is qualified–this is the White House, not American idol.”
COMMENTS:
1)That was 5 months ago. I would venture a guess not as many Republicans think Palin is not qualified any longer and perhaps not as many independent voters either. The evidence was the PPP July poll which showed in a head to head match up with Obama both would get 46% of the vote and Palin would beat the Messiah 55%-36% among WHITE voters and 47%-42% among INDEPENDENT voters.
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 11:26 AM
Man, that actually gave me a belly laugh. You know you are discussing a Palin thread. Where the biggest supporter is a self-admitted Perot voter! Which means she is easily influenced by pop political culture which explains her creepy zeal concerning Palin. Forgive me if I discount her advice.
How you guys can’t see you are simply a flip-side of the Obamabots is beyond me. Groveling for some fcking politician to finally lead your side to victory simply for payback against Obama. It happens every election cycle and not one thing changes except for whose team “wins” for four or eight years.
ClassicCon on July 24, 2010 at 11:27 AM
ClassicCon on July 24, 2010 at 11:27 AM
“…SOME FCKING POLITICIAN TO FINALLY LEAD YOUR SIDE TO VICTORY FOR PAYBACK AGAINST OBAMA…”
Yea, I can dig it. Free me from Obama and I’ll be drunk for a week and I think I can speak for millions of Americans when I say that.
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 11:36 AM
I really don’t see your comparison as valid. Obamabots were unique because EVERY story was killed. I thought the most telling aspect of the Journolist story was the reaction to George Stephanopolis over his daring to ask Obama questions.
The Palin crowd can’t begin to control that with Palin. She has everything scrutinized, right down to a fence built or a family dust-up. And it will continue, no doubt.
AnninCA on July 24, 2010 at 11:56 AM
And all your type does is f*ing bitch and moan constantly with absolutely NOTHING constructive to contribute. Nothing.
ddrintn on July 24, 2010 at 12:14 PM
And all your type does is f*ing b1tch and moan every friggin’ election cycle, with absolutely NOTHING positive or constructive to contribute. All we ever friggin’ know from people like you is who you DON’T like.
ddrintn on July 24, 2010 at 12:16 PM
Cynicism much?
Extrafishy on July 24, 2010 at 12:41 PM
According to this poll, Palin’s lead over her nearest competitor (Romney) is now 10 points. That’s more than what Daniels, Pawlenty, Pence, Barbour and Thune COMBINED get in total support.
Her approval among GOP voters are sky-high and is only getting better.
Sarah is obviously the front-runner right now, and her numbers are improving. For all of those who critisize her, please show me another GOP politican who has done more to fight Obama or who has done a better job politically in the past year.
I support her 100% and look forward to vote for her in the primary. And I have no doubt that she will run.
Norwegian on July 24, 2010 at 12:44 PM
Norweigan on July 24, 2010 at 12:44 PM
The German word angst perfectly describes the reaction of the Obama war room, the Far Left and the MSM and the GOP establishment and Beltway elites to first PPP’s poll showing Palin tied with Obama, then Gallup showing Palin’s F/UF at 44/47 and then this poll showing Palin with a sizeable lead among Republicans.
Frankly this was not supposed to happen. The Alaskan bloggers and the MSM were supposed to finish her off or she was supposed to self-destruct because her opponents really believed the media narrative that she is a clueless idiot.
Now what are they supposed to do now? Palin is no longer unelectable. What are they left with? Ricky Hollywood. That’s how desperate the anti-Palin forces are now.
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 12:53 PM
Give me a politician who will do what is necessary to do the job of government—that a government is instituted among men to safeguard and preserve their rights.
ted c on July 24, 2010 at 1:10 PM
0bamaBow
Summer Recovery
Gulf Oil Spill
“Corpseman”
War On Terror
Porkulus
Fighting against Arizona 1070
That was just off the top of my head. Would you like me to go into some real detail?
On topic, I would have to say that the Sarah naysayers continue to fight a losing battle. After all, wasn’t it the political consensus that her political career was over? ;o)
DannoJyd on July 24, 2010 at 1:15 PM
She doesn’t think on her feet well enough to make it through a campaign. Outside the conservative echo chamber she is not well liked, especially with independents.
She will max @ 35% nationally. Her nomination insures 4 more years of the current bozo in the WH.
Just the facts.
rickyricardo on July 24, 2010 at 1:22 PM
I truly relish the thought of having a President as in love with America as Sarah Palin is, and so bold, courageous, and creative as to act on that love.
“We will not sit down and shut up”
Palin 2012
DaMav on July 24, 2010 at 1:51 PM
Can you let me know tonight’s Powerball numbers too? The jackpot is $52 million.
‘K thanks!
NoLeftTurn on July 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM
NoLeftTurn on July 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM
lol
Disturb the Universe on July 24, 2010 at 2:16 PM
I find people’s responses to the above quote interesting. All the Palin supporters either insulted or attacked the poster.
RedState.com seems to agree with Classic Con’s assessment.
None of you actually stopped to consider if the charge is actually true.
I would to hear an honest substantive, introspective response from a Palin fan on why they think they’re unlike ObamaBots or Paulbots because there are many who get that impression from Palin fans…
Many of you are not able to admit the weaknesses or faults of Palin and if anyone points it out, a zombielike shark frenzy ensues over the poster who made the accusation.
Many of you see her as perfect, can do no wrong, and will resolve all the problems of the world. That does seem to be similar to what the Obamabots thought about Obama…
Is that a fair characterization or not?
Whether that characterization is true or not is irrelevant, the point is that can you see that there is a rational basis for someone to come to that conclusion about some (not all) Sarah Palin supporters?
Conservative Samizdat on July 24, 2010 at 2:18 PM
Ridiculous bilge.
She thinks so slowly “on her feet” that she was able to triumphantly finesse her convention speech despite losing her teleprompter for a huge swath of it. This, in her first national address. Obama can’t get through a Rose Garden address to girl scouts without his teleprompter.
Share your “facts” with those who monger in the old deluded fictions.
rrpjr on July 24, 2010 at 2:23 PM
“When did you stop beating your wife?”
Oh, we’ve been over this crap so many times it’s beyond tiresome. The sorts of “criticisms” I find inane are “she’s unelectable”. “She’s stupid”. “She can’t think on her feet”. “She’s inarticulate”. “Her family is a circus”. And on and on and on and on.
Now prove to us that you’re not a Romney fan simply because Romney’s a Mormon. One would have a “rational basis” for coming to that conclusion, right? Or is there something very specific that you can point to in Romney’s resume that you just fell head over heels in love with?
ddrintn on July 24, 2010 at 2:35 PM
Yawn, yeah used to this kind of garbage from the political sports fans. WELL WHO IS YOUR GUY?
Who do I like? Let’s see…I like John Bolton, and that is about it. Let me run out and get a bumper stick for him, spend hours following him on Twitter and construct a small shrine to him in my backyard.
Regardless, it doesn’t matter. The system they run in will never change and the fact that politicians can pass laws to take money from me to buy votes means the country is done.
Just prep your future family to survive in a totalitarian system, teach them to keep their heads low and ride out the sh1tstorm that will inevitably end it.
Not cynical, but history provides the lessons, don’t know why you think our country is any different? Human nature is human nature regardless of citizenship.
ClassicCon on July 24, 2010 at 2:37 PM
“Ohhhhh I’m soooooo superior and fashionably jaded…can’t you just adore how jadedly superior I am? I don’t follow candidates like the rabble…I would prefer that a volume of Hayek were on the ballot…”
Get bent.
ddrintn on July 24, 2010 at 2:40 PM
If we want these monstrosities undone, we need someone we can trust! Someone who actually went against the establishment before! Someone who can take the punches and still stand tall! Not someone who made their own Romneycare. Not someone who sat on a couch with Nancy Pelosi which will only help in their efforts of bilking us! Not these losers who are hiding out until Sarah calls takes all the blowback when she bravely stands up for the rest of us! They say it took a Carter to get a Reagan and maybe only an Obama can get a Palin! Palin or a Christie gets my vote so far. Newt is probably a genius, but i can’t trust him since Scozzafava and Nancy’s couch! And a limpy RINO will never do the things we need done!
unlisted on July 24, 2010 at 2:41 PM
Done with your tantrum?
Can you name me one significant legislative victory the GOP has enjoyed in the last 20 years?
ClassicCon on July 24, 2010 at 2:47 PM
rickyricardo on July 24, 2010 at 1:22 PM
SHE WILL MAX @35% NATIONALLY
Confirmation of your statement from the PPP blog:
“…a new national PPP poll finds that nominating Palin could be a DEATH WISH for the party, with Barack Obama leading Palin 55-35 in a hypothetical contest.”
“I’ts a long way until 2012, but it appears the Republicans nominating Palin would lead to the BIGGEST LANDSLIDE in a generation.”
Confirmation rickyricardo of your statement if it were March 18, 2009 when this was written. Stop thinking like Lucy and become more world-wise like Fred Mertz. The most recent PPP poll this month showed it a tie now between Obama and Palin at 46% in a head to head matchup. In addition it revealed:
Among WHITE voters Palin would trounce Obama 55% to 36%.
Among INDEPENDENT voters Palin bests Obama 47% to 42%.
Among FEMALE voters Palin beats Obama 47% to 44%.
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM
Well, if I was a fan of Romney simply on the basis of his religion (which I am a member of as well) I would also have to be a fan of Harry Reid simply because they’re Mormon too. But I despise Harry Reid even if he’s of my faith.
So faith isn’t a factor for me. I’d still be a fan of Romney even if he wasn’t Mormon.
I am aware of Romney’s faults. I understand people’s objections to RomneyCare and why that might harm Romney. I am also aware of accusations of his flip flopping. That’s a problem he’ll have to address or overcome in 2012.
Despite Romney’s weaknesses, he has his strengths which I are strong and compelling enough to overcome his flaws. And I think he has the knowledge, experience and leadership to turn this country around in terms of debt.
When Mitt entered into office in 2003, he inherited a massive deficit of approximately $3 billion. By the time he left office, in one term, the state had a surplus of $2 Billion. That’s an impressive economic turnaround.
We don’t need a perfect candidate. We don’t a rockstar canidate. We don’t need a messiah candidate either.
We just need a human being who can lead and has experience of turning companies, states and sports organizations around.
Conservative Samizdat on July 24, 2010 at 3:12 PM
Totally agree he’d make a great economic advisor, Treasury Secretary or Czar in charge of eliminating the entire agencies that President Palin chooses for elimination.
Left to his own devises he’d merely expand them at a slower rate as would the rest of that list!
Only Sarah has the stomach for the battle to reduce Govt, lobbyists, regulation and mandates the rest still believe they can be fine tuned.
dhunter on July 24, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Show me where Obama is incompetent: Have you tried reading what was passed and is coming our way in 2012? Don’t you see that Obamacare takes away our freedom and decides who is going to get healthcare and who won’t. Don’t you see the finance reform act will monitor every facet of your spending and banking? Cap & trade will control where you drive, how hot or cool your living room will be, and how much money you will be taxed because you use too much energy? Our borders are being invaded but rather than support and defend the citizens of Arizona, Obama takes our country to court. Incompetent Obama, no! Incompetent we the people who continue to support, defend and voted for this man, well you tell me!
mistert1950 on July 24, 2010 at 3:31 PM
How does Sarah Palin beat Barack Obama in 2012:
1)WHITE turnout in 2012 is 75% (73) of overall electorate (millions of WHITE voters who did vote in 2008 do so in 2012) with Palin getting 60% (55) of the WHITE vote and Obama 38% (43)
Palin: 45.0% Obama: 28.5%
2)Black turnout is back to 12% (13) of overall electorate with Palin getting 4% (4) and Obama 95% (95).
Palin: 0.5% Obama: 11.4%
3)Hispanic turnout is 9% (9) of overall electorate with Palin getting 35% (31) and Obama 62% (66)
Palin: 3.2% Obama: 5.6%
4)Asian
Asian turnout is 2% (2) of overall electorate with Palin getting 40% (34) of the Asian vote with Obama 57% (63)
Palin: 0.8 Obama: 1.2%
5)Other
Other includes the Jewish popn which is 2% (3) of the population that goes 30% (20) for Palin and 68% (78) for Obama
Palin: 0.6 Obama: 1.4%
(Brackets 2008)
Total percentage of vote under this scenario for Palin and Obama:
Palin 50.1% Obama: 48.1%
CONCLUSION:
Under this scenario Palin would be able to win the South, Midwest, Rust Belt and Rocky Mountain states and eke out a narrow victory similar to George Bush in 2004 (286 electoral votes to 252 electoral votes.)
Of course it could approach landslide proportions for Palin if Obama fell to let’s say 36% of the WHITE vote and Palin got 62%, then it becomes 51.6% for Palin and 46.6% for Obama a spread of 5% or if the percentage of the WHITE vote in proportion to the overall electorate got to 76% or 77%.
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 3:44 PM
Well, speaking only for myself, I have a problem with this characterization because it’s applied to everyone. Not everyone who is a fan of the woman is blind to her flaws. In fact, I think even her most ardent supporters would admit she isn’t perfect.
NoLeftTurn on July 24, 2010 at 3:45 PM
Gingrich in second is the real surprise.
curved space on July 24, 2010 at 3:52 PM
That’s is the response that I was hoping to get. I respect it and appreciate it.
If more people responded this way, we could have a thoughtful, reasoned and honest about the respective candidates. Their strengths and weaknesses and etc.
No candidate is perfect. We all know that.
Would you care to address a common perception among some people that certain Palin fans respond to certain kinds of criticism in a manner that may give off the perception that Palin supporters defend her the same way a Paulbot would defend Ron Paul or Obamabots when criticized?
Its not just the idolization of Palin that bothers some people. People use flowery, poetic, rhetoric for her similar to how some Obama people spoke of him.
Other people are bothered by the way Palin fans defend her. It is the inability to see that some people have some fair, rational and credible grounds to not supporting her and that any criticism is deemed to be almost heretical or blasphemous. Any criticism is met with a horde of angry Palin fans with the same intensity that Paulbots have in manipulating an online poll.
I appreciate your rational response to the first question I had. What are your thoughts towards how some people are turned off by the way some, not all, fans respond to criticism of Palin?
Can you see how some people might be turned off by how some Palin fans react to criticism?
I look forward to your honest response.
Conservative Samizdat on July 24, 2010 at 4:16 PM
It’s pretty simple. We’re sick and tired of putative conservatives who never seem to give up the same old tired, lazy, cheap memes that came from JournoListers. These memes are usually repeated ad nauseam in the service of Mitt Romney.
ddrintn on July 24, 2010 at 4:24 PM
B.s. People within the Republican party are simply upset that Palin is the object of such alleged “adoration”, and not some other more establishment-friendly potential candidate. That’s all.
ddrintn on July 24, 2010 at 4:26 PM
I don’t count Romney. Romney is nominated and we’re looking at a full eight years of Obamalama Ding Dong.
curved space on July 24, 2010 at 4:40 PM
Allah, or Ed should title the next GOP thread with something like, “Fantasy Presidential GOP42012″. We are part of fantasy football here every year; I think we need to put up something like that-off the record in the Green Room.
Not that I am necessarily poking fun at the incessant “she’s-better-than-him” thingy, but I am getting tired of it on occasion.
ProudPalinFan on July 24, 2010 at 4:53 PM
You have a lot of nerve asking for an “honest response”
when you never give one yourself!
You are a shill for Mitt Romney and any honest criticism of him as a candidate is met with the same shrill “adoration” of Mittens that you accuse Palin supporters of.
I have given countless responses to your baseless, non-substantive criticisms of Palin only to have them summarily dismissed.
So, dismiss away and shill for Mitt, but then don’t complain about Sarah’s supporters.
And the adoration we feel for Sarah Palin is not a thing like the blind adulation of the mob who became enraptured by “The One!”
The way we feel about Sarah is like the devotion we felt for Ronald Reagan when he stood up for our country, our way of life and our troops.
Jenfidel on July 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM
You’re pretty much going to get that in any post dealing with a poll on the popularity of potential GOP candidates.
ddrintn on July 24, 2010 at 5:03 PM
Well, I think Obama will easily win the next primary, and he’ll be quite difficult to defeat, too, particularly if he no longer has control.
Americans love balance. It’s a yin-yang deal.
What will be interesting to me?
How with the GOP handle this?
If they devour the candidate, OK.
but then, that does define them.
And that isn’t a small matter.
I think the GOP blogs better decide soon how to shift gears.
If you are a “devourer”, then you should just simply say, “This blog is pro-Romney.”
If there’s one thing the last week’s media frenzy has proven, honesty is the best policy.
State your activist statement and take your hits. Or lack of hits.
AnninCA on July 24, 2010 at 5:17 PM
Seriously, blogs that are playin the game of pretending are pretty much out of time.
It’s time to move on for a lot of us.
AnninCA on July 24, 2010 at 5:19 PM
What I think that would work is a true post by the main bloggers, Ed or Allahpundit, that they have truly underestimated Palin.
If they really don’t agree? That’s OK.
But then this blog needs to be identified clearly as a Romney blog.
Don’t pretend to be otherwise.
You’re just a mouthpiece for Romney.
And you really should live or die by those clicks, too.
Enough of the anti-palin games.
Really. Enough
AnninCA on July 24, 2010 at 5:23 PM
And quite a few of us should really stop clicking this site, too.
It’s beyond denial. Let Romney pay for the site.
AnninCA on July 24, 2010 at 5:25 PM
I could say the same thing about supporters of other candidates, too. Huck and Mitt fans among the worst, IMO, as they tend more than others to suffer from PDS. I’ve personally had experiences with some of them here that have been really, really ugly.
So, I guess it’s all a matter of perception. Perhaps some of the Palinistas wouldn’t react the way they do if they weren’t constantly being provoked.
NoLeftTurn on July 24, 2010 at 5:30 PM
Right…all of us Romney supporters participated in the JournoList chat and conspired to trash Palin.
*rolls eyes*
No, I recognize that Romney has his weaknesses. I don’t dispute that.
Moreover, every response/defense of Romney I give I back up with links and sources. I try to keep my response grounded and supported by information that can be verified and looked up.
And I don’t dismiss Palin nor am I anti-Palin. I just think she has some weaknesses that could pose a problem for her in 2012 just as there are weaknesses that will be a problem for Mitt in 2012 (or for any candidate). She also has her strengths as well.
And I don’t recall ever summarily dismissing any of your response about Palin. If I have, I appologize.
I don’t adore Mitt. He’s not an idol or hero of mine. I don’t shill for him. At this moment, he’s someone I support until I am convinced or swayed by another candidate who is better for POTUS.
In fact, I have repeatedly stated that if Palin wins, she will have my 100% undivided full support and I will do what it takes as a supporter, if she wins, to become POTUS.
Conservative Samizdat on July 24, 2010 at 5:32 PM
I didn’t say “all”, and you don’t have to be a memebr of JournoList to repeat their lousy talking points.
ddrintn on July 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM
Are you leaving? AGAIN?
ladyingray on July 24, 2010 at 5:40 PM
It really is a matter of perception. And your point is true regardless of the candidate.
Conservative Samizdat on July 24, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Right. As if people needed to use the JournoList to as a basis for critizizing Palin.
Do you really think that’s the source of where critics of Palin get their material? You don’t think it could come from observation, watching the news and seeing her in interviews?
Conservative Samizdat on July 24, 2010 at 5:49 PM
I can’t believe Hot Air hasn’t picked this up yet, but Mike Huckabee was cracking jokes about Palin doing line after line after line of cocaine.
If there is ONE guy who shouldn’t be running in 2012, its Huck. Okay…there’s two. Add Ron Paul to the don’t run list.
Conservative Samizdat on July 24, 2010 at 6:02 PM
Well, there is a point there. If you are watching the news and it isn’t FOX, you are probably being fed lines of criticism and talking points formulated on JournOlist, or whatever has replaced it now that it is exposed and shut down.
As far as interviews, I have seen a whole lot of good interviews of Palin since the 2008 campaign ended.
The last two she did on the Fox Business Network were excellent.
If someone wants to keep going back to 2008, then that is what they will do.
I would address one criticism I keep hearing which is baseless.
“She won’t even talk to anyone who isn’t on FOX”
That is not true. When she was Governor, after the 2008 campaign she did interviews with lots of different media outlets. NBC News was in her living room, and again from Texas when the ExxonMobil TransCanada deal was announced, plus Wolf Blitzer on CNN the same day. At the RGA meeting in Miami, CNN again. TIME Magazine twice as well.
Once she resigned as Governor and signed up as a FOX News contributor, there is no reason to do any interviews with any other outlets, with the exception of the promotional tour for the book, which involved media all over the place.
There will be another book tour this fall, and then if she declares as a candidate for President formally, that is when there can be a reasonable expectation to obligate yourself to hostile media.
The way she has been treated by these people, I don’t blame her one bit for freezing them out as much as possible right now. Makes total sense to me.
Brian1972 on July 24, 2010 at 6:10 PM
You missed it. It was on here the day after it happened.
Brian1972 on July 24, 2010 at 6:11 PM
Oh, I forgot about the resignation itself.
If you recall, Andrea Mitchell of NBC and Kate Snow of ABC both went all the way to the salmon fishing site in Dillingham and had to go out on the boat to get their interview, which they got.
I remember Andrea getting dressed down when Sarah told her “you aren’t listening to what I’m saying!” when her questions ignored the answers. Again, I don’t blame Sarah for shutting these jerks out of her success as much as is possible.
Only give them something when you get something in return, like the book tour or this documentary coming up, which will provide a synergistic opportunity for ABC News.
She realizes they are the enemy.
They are not neutral, they are active agents of the other side. You cannot count on their honesty, either.
Brian1972 on July 24, 2010 at 6:17 PM
Well, I appologize. I’ve been busy studying for the California Bar exam. I read Hot Air when I can until I’m done with the exam…
…Which starts in three days.
Conservative Samizdat on July 24, 2010 at 6:18 PM
Good luck.
President Palin will need good attorneys at the Justice Department. :)
Brian1972 on July 24, 2010 at 6:26 PM
Here via the PPP blog posts over the last 18 months on the topic of Sarah Palin is the timeline of how we got here, to show you how far Palin has come and the potential for her that lies ahead:
March 18, 2009:
Barack Obama leading Palin 55-35, which PPP says could lead to the biggest landslide in a generation.
April 27, 2009:
Palin F/UF by conservative Republicans is 85/10 but does the worst against Obama in h/h polls with the party. Many Republicans don’t consider Palin Presidential timber.
July 3, 2009:
“With the news today Sarah Palin is resigning…for the Republican nomination, at least this early point, pretty good. For the general election, not so good…an outcome that would give Obama well over 400 electoral votes.”
“The problem for Palin is that most voters have already formed an opinion about her…for her to get elected in 2012 she would have to change the minds of INDEPENDENT and Democratic votes about her–and it’s a lot easier to make a positive first impression than it is to change a negative one once it’s already been formed…my guess is that Palin never holds elected office again.”
July 8, 2009
“…even among a decent chunk of voters who like her they don’t think she’s suited to be LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD…her detractors don’t take her seriously…”
July 13, 2009
“Last week our national survey found just 37% of voters in the country think Sarah Palin is fit to be President–55% don’t…does not include moderates she would likely need to succeed in a national election…she also doesn’t appear to have much crossover potential with conservative Democrats…and moderate independents…”
August 22, 2009
“So yesterday I wrote a post how the preferred 2012 presidential candidate of the BIRTHERS was Sarah Palin…”
Nov. 25, 2009
Nate Silver had a good post yesterday about how Barack Obama could probably get reelected with a lower approval rating if Sarah Palin was his opponent as opposed to say Mitt Romney in 2012.
Dec. 1, 2009
Comparison between July 2009 and December 2009 in favorables:
JULY DEC
CONSERV DEMOCRATS 47 52
CONSERV INDEPEND 65 84
CONSERV REPUB 81 87
MODERATE REPUB 64 57
Dec 14, 2009
“It is certainly not breaking news that Sarah Palin is THE DARLING OF THE MOST EXTREME FRINGE of the Republican party. Romney is more popular with THE REASONABLE WING of the Republican party than the LUNATIC FRINGE, which probably hurts his chances at the 2012 nomination…”
Dec. 15, 2009
Palin’s deficit against Obama now 50-44. “In March among those who favored Palin she led Obama 72-18 in a h/h matchup; now it’s 92-4. PREVIOUSLY THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIKED PALIN BUT WOULDN’T COMMIT TO HER FOR PRESIDENT–THAT RETICENCE HAS NOW GONE AWAY…”
I’d up her chances of ever being President from maybe 5% at the start of 2009 to 10% now. She still has half the country disliking her with their minds pretty much made up, and that’s going to be tough to overcome.”
Jan 22, 2010
“Sarah Palin trails Obama 49-41…her problem appears to be that THE REPUBLICANS WHO DON’T CARE FOR HER WILL GO SO FAR AS TO VOTE FOR OBAMA INSTEAD OF HER.”
Jan 26, 2010
“she continues to be the darling of conservatives in the party with 79% of them holding a favorable opinion of her compared to 61% for Huckabee and 60% for Romney. But when it comes to the general election matchup she loses 30% of the liberal/moderate Republican vote to Barack Obama compared to just 23% for Huckabee and 22% for Romney. It’s simple reality that Sarah Palin is LESS ELECTABLE than a more mainstream Republican candidate would be…”
Feb 17, 2010
“…we found 59% of Americans but only 30% of Republicans don’t think Palin is qualified but matched up against Barack Obama Sarah Palin gets 22% from people who don’t think she’s qualified to be President!…”
March 19, 2010
“One of the things holding Palin back may be ELECTABILITY concerns. 48% of Republican voters say the most important thing is getting a nominee WHO CAN BEAT BARACK OBAMA and with these people Palin lags well behind at 15% to 32% for Romney and 27% for Huckabee…”
April 9, 2010
“…if Palin is going to win her party’s nod it doesn’t appear an unusual level of support from women supporting her as a trailblazer is going to be part of the equation.”
April 19, 2010
“Mitt Romney continues to lead the way among the top Republicans likely to run for the Presidency in 2012.”
“The big story in 2012 polling continues to be Palin’s surprisingly poor performance…runs ten points behind Romney nationally. Beyond the regional differences ROMNEY LEADS WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERY SUBGROUP OF THE REPUBLICAN ELECTORATE AT THIS POINT–MODERATES AND CONSERVATIVES, WOMEN AND MEN, AND EVERY AGE GROUP EXCEPT THE UNDER 30 CROWD.”
May 21, 2010
“(in Colorado)…Romney went from 44% to 25%, losing 43% of his support. Meanwhile Palin improved her postion from 25% to 29%…” (PPP neglects to mention that Palin is the frontrunner in Colorado as of this poll.)
May 25, 2010
“Carly Fiorina’s superior resources always had the potential to blow her opponents away…now opened a 20 point lead over Campbell and 25 point lead over DeVore.”
(No mention of the Palin endorsement that propelled Fiorina from 2nd spot to the stratosphere)
June 8, 2010
“Displeasure with the Republican establishment is driving Haley’s success like it did for Rand Paul in Kentucky last month.”
(No mention that Nikki “who” was an obscure SC GOP gubernatorial candidate until Palin catapulted her to “political stardom” with her surprise endorsement.)
June 10, 2010
“The Palin endorsement of Branstad was COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS…it was irrelevant…”
June 28, 2010
“…poll in Pennsylvania finds Palin leading with 24%…”
(The blog focuses on Newt surging and Mitt slipping but no other mention of Palin.)
July 14, 2010
“Palin is the most toxic with 51% saying her endorsement would turn them against a candidate and only 30% saying it would make them more likely to support someone…”
July 14, 2010
Among those who voted for Obama in 2008 but DON’T APPROVE of his job performance now Palin performs the worst in F/UF with a 33/63 with these folks…Palin continues to be the most well-liked of the leading contenders with GOP voters. Whether she’s the one who can appeal to disaffected Obama voters is another story…”
July 15, 2010
“When we started polling a Barack Obama/Sarah Palin Presidential contest in March of 2009 her F/UF was 39/50 and she trailed Obama 55-35.’
“Now her F/UF is actually worse at 37/52 but SHE’S KNOTTED WITH OBAMA AT 46%…”
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 6:51 PM
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 6:51 PM
PPP threw everything but the kitchen sink at Palin why the GOP primary voters should not support her. Could any of the other GOP contenders stood up to such scrutiny or criticism and yes ridicule from PPP over a period of 18 straight months?
Vindication:
PPP July poll in a head to head matchup with Obama:
Overall: Palin 46 Obama 46
WHITE voters: Palin 55 Obama 36
INDEPENDENTS: Palin 47 Obama 42
FEMALE voters: Palin 47 Obama 44
Gallup F/UF:
Overall: 44/47
Republicans: 76/20
Econ/youguv poll:
Above (double digit lead among Republicans)
“You’ve come a long way baby!”
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 6:58 PM
Conservative Samizdat on July 24, 2010 at 6:18 PM
Good luck to you.
cs89 on July 24, 2010 at 6:59 PM
Mitt has the same problem as the cowardly lion – the lack of courage.
bw222 on July 24, 2010 at 7:17 PM
Excellent points, all. I’ve reminded people of the CNN and NBC interviews, and of course all the interviews she did when the book came out, but I’d forgotten she spoke to Time as well. And I have the magazine setting right here on my desk! I hope that doesn’t make me too obsessed or anything. ;o)
Anyway, even reasonable people who aren’t supporters of hers acknowledge she was treated unfairly by the press, and now we have confirmation of how the MSM colluded against her during the campaign and beyond. She’s been vindicated as far as I’m concerned. However it’s difficult to change perceptions once people have formed them and I think that’s what she’s been busy doing these last 12 months. By limiting which media have access to her, she is in control of reshaping the narrative. By and large, I think she’s doing a good job of it. People may not have changed their minds about her yet, but she is storing up a lot of evidence she can point to in primary rout when people ask what she’s been doing since she left office and where she stands on the issues. I don’t know who else is really as relevant as she is right now. I don’t always think she performs flawlessly, but I also don’t think she needs to. People who accuse Palinistas of being blind to her faults are guilty of the same black and white thinking when they declare every single misstep no matter how insignificant the beginning of the end of her career.
NoLeftTurn on July 24, 2010 at 7:33 PM
…and dismiss every single positive thing that is said as “talking points”, then go back to something that’s two years old to reinforce their negative opinion, ignoring everything just told them.
Brian1972 on July 24, 2010 at 7:43 PM
Brian1972 on July 24, 2010 at 7:43 PM
I have been following Sarah Palin well-nigh for 2 years now beginning from Adam Brickley’s web site Draft Sarah Palin for VP so I have gotten to know her personality pretty well.
Sarah recently admitted on the Bob and Mark show that she perhaps had gone overboard in and should not have been as passionate about protecting her children, that in turn gave the MSM more incentive to trash them. I could have told Sarah that when she first beseeched the MSM to leave her family alone during the campaign.
And Bristol being inteviewed by Greta in early Jan 2009 without Sarah knowing about it was inexcusable. Sarah should have appointed or hired a person to oversee interviews for the entire family, that all interviews with any member of the family had to go through him or her.
I have not hidden my feelings on Bristol and Levi. I consider them Sarah’s Achilles’ heel and the MSM unfortunately see it the way I see it. It will go after Bristol and Levi with both barrels of the gun trying to imply that they are trailer trash and of course that Sarah Palin is as well. This is what this tabloidization is all about, keeping “respectable folks” from considering voting for Sarah because she is an unsophisticated lowbrow not worthy of their consideration.
technopeasant on July 24, 2010 at 7:56 PM
I’m astounded by the Kool Aid the Palinistas have swallowed.
I like her, but anyone of you who thinks she has a prayer in a general election doesn’t travel above the Mason Dixon line.
The Palin echo chamber is alive and well.
rickyricardo on July 24, 2010 at 11:34 PM
Is Alaska above the Mason-Dixson line?
Inanemergencydial on July 24, 2010 at 11:38 PM
God Bless and you go girl.
byteshredder on July 24, 2010 at 11:52 PM
Mid-Michigan here…I like her chances very much.
Grace_is_sufficient on July 24, 2010 at 11:53 PM
All right, I give up:
http://weeklystandard.com/articles/refudiate-liberalism
Refudiate liberalism! (I’ll go with Bill Kristol.)
tigerinexile on July 25, 2010 at 12:03 AM
rickyricardo on July 24, 2010 at 11:34 PM
As I mentioned above I have followed Sarah Palin for about two years and know pretty much everything there is to know politically about her.
Refer to the PPP blogs posts above over the last 18 months you will see every possible narrative used to marginalize her and to destroy her political credibility.
In addition there is journolist and despite the media conspiracy Sarah not only survives but thrives.
The PPP poll released on July 15th showing her tied with Obama at 46 in a h/h matchup with her leading the Messiah by 19 points over WHITE voters, 5 points among INDEPENDENT voters and 3 points among FEMALE voters proves that she has come a long way.
And then we have the above poll and topic of this thread which reveals that Palin is in good shape against her GOP opponents with her own party and the Tea Party.
You claim that Palin would not get more than 35% against the Messiah. You would have been correct on March 18, 2009, but this is July 2010.
rickyricardo, before you take on Obama you must first win the GOP nomination. Palin is not guaranteed the nomination but she is definitely not the “loser” you make her out to be. Right now there are 4 top contenders for the nomination. Any of them could prevail in 2012, including Sarah Palin.
technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 12:04 AM
One Question..What if she decides NOT to run?
Dire Straits on July 25, 2010 at 12:10 AM
She will have done all of us who want the ‘clown’ out of office a great service.
She should use her star power to bring her supporters behind a solid conservative candidate and campaign her heart out for them.
She will bring out the base and energize the Hillary supporters who can’t stand the current regime while a well spoken candidate can bring in the independents with a well reasoned defense of our free market history, denunciations of crony capitalism and round house attacks against this regime.
From all that I’ve seen Sarah Palin cannot construct a coherent argument while under the hot lights of the media.
I’m not calling her dumb, she’s not, she is simply not able to communicate effectively beyond her Facebook page. That is a recipe for disaster in a general election.
rickyricardo on July 25, 2010 at 12:22 AM
Dire Straits on July 25, 2010 at 12:10 AM
Two points:
1)In an interview this week Paul Ryan admitted what is currently known by most politicos, that running for POTUS entails 2+ year commitment “to do it right” and right now he is not prepared with young children to that. The reason I point that out is that it is more likely folks like Christie, Jindal, Pence, Daniels, Thune, Barbour etc will not run because they have not done the necessary spadework to get their ducks in a row.
In contrast by resigning a year ago, Palin has had the opportunity to get her ducks in a row and build an infrastructure that is based not on hiring employees but establishing a team of consultants which she can call upon at any time on the Internet, through e-mail or blackberries etc. In early February just before her interview with Chris Wallace the NYT revealed she had been and would continue to get daily briefings from Washington insiders. Palin confirmed that during her interview.
Palin’s endorsements are no fluke. Her timing is impeccable and from the results of her endorsements the lady knows how to pick winners. Again she is not picking names out of hat.
What Palin is doing is working on a long-term plan to run for POTUS. Why did she endorse Branstad for governor of Iowa when she had never met him (a dead giveaway), why did she recently endorse Kelly Ayotte in NH, and why did she transform Nikki “who” to become the belle of the ball and the next governor of South Carolina? It’s plain as the nose on your face the lady has a plan and that is to run for POTUS in 2011 and 2012.
2)When has the frontrunner in the polls going into the year before the primaries not run for POTUS? It’s the dark horses or second-tier candidates that bow out not major players like Palin. Of course the caveat is that Palin does not have any skeletons in the closet (scandal) or a major family health problem. Other than those two reasons she has no reason not to run. And don’t use the media as a reason she won’t run. If Sarah didn’t break after two years of relentless pressure since she was unveiled by McCain on August 29, 2008, she is not about to break in the future. The lady has a will of tempered steel.
technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 12:27 AM
rickyricardo on July 25, 2010 at 12:22 AM
…SHE IS SIMPLY NOT ABLE TO COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY BEYOND HER FACEBOOK PAGE…
I guess the entities who have hired Palin through the Washington Speakers’ Bureau for Palin to speak before their members should ask for a full refund of the $75,000-$100,000 speaker’s fee.
Hey rickyricardo, attack Palin on policy, but accusing her of not being able to communciate effectively, c’mon man, that is completely out of whole cloth. We all know better. Your assertion simply doesn’t match the facts.
technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 12:37 AM
Thanks. I appreciate it.
The California Bar exam starts on Tuesday and ends on Thursday. I welcome prayers on my behalf on those days. Its my third attempt and I’d like to knock it out of the ball park this time.
Conservative Samizdat on July 25, 2010 at 12:39 AM
You make some good points..But put me in the camp that she is not going to run in 2012.
PS..IMHO She quit because of the $$$ and there is nothing wrong with that.
Dire Straits on July 25, 2010 at 12:42 AM
Dire Straits on July 25, 2010 at 12:42 AM
If you think Palin quit because of the $$$ why didn’t she go the Huck route immediately and become the next Oprah, why did she maintain SarahPAC AFTER she resigned, why has she gone out of her way to put 20 Democratic districts in the crosshairs, why has she endorsed so many candidates for Congress and flip it over why is her endorsement according to Rick Santorum “the only one to get”, and again why did she endorse Branstad, Ayotte and Haley if she planned to go Hollywood and become a celebretard? And finally do you really think the #1 mama grizzly is going to abandon her “cubs” once she helps them get to Congress and why is Palin going to campaign full time in the fall in the lower 48 if she wasn’t interested in furthering her political career? Answer all those questions and then reflect and you will soon realize Sarah Palin has a plan to run for POTUS and that she is pretty well following the Reagan playbook (updated to 21stc technology)to accomplish her goal.
technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 12:52 AM
Keep up the great work! Always enjoy your comments, you are an asset to HotAir.
Best of luck!
Norwegian on July 25, 2010 at 1:08 AM
My point was that there was too money out there to be had and that is the reason she left the Governor’s job.
Dire Straits on July 25, 2010 at 1:11 AM
Dire Straits on July 25, 2010 at 1:11 AM
Sarah Palin is not wired that way. There are close to 2m members on her Facebook who also know that.
As for Levi Johnston, that’s another story.
technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 1:20 AM
Why did she quit her job as Govenor?
Dire Straits on July 25, 2010 at 1:32 AM
Sorry.
Dire Straits on July 25, 2010 at 1:42 AM
Conservative Samizdat, this is precisely the kind of comment I’m talking about:
Are Palinistas not supposed to respond to these personal attacks? And as usual, the commenter offers no argument of substance for why she’s so unelectable. He merely thinks he can divine the future.
NoLeftTurn on July 25, 2010 at 1:44 AM
This is the political equivalent of saying that women belong barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.
NoLeftTurn on July 25, 2010 at 1:47 AM
Good luck! I will say a prayer for you; I never sat for it but I know it’s one of the toughest bars in the country. Let us know how it goes. :o)
NoLeftTurn on July 25, 2010 at 1:51 AM
That entire post was a perfect description, Brian. That’s exactly how I regard all of the media, from my own previous professional experience.
Sarah’s only mistake was going in at the national level very early, while still believing there would be some shred of professionalism or integrity by such characters as Couric and Mitchell. She did not realize yet, the depth of their fear of her.
She does now.
Fishoutofwater on July 25, 2010 at 1:54 AM
Dire Straits on July 25, 2010 at 1:32 AM
I could go into miniseries version but I hope you forgive me for going with the condensed Reader’s Digest version.
In 2009 Alaska had recently passed an ethics act which allowed the governor to be sued by private citizens without the governor being able to draw upon state funds or the Alaskan Justice Dept. to fund her legal bills or help her out. This was a loophole in the law which the Alaskan Left-wing bloggers on orders from their masters in the Obama war room (Rahm Emmanuel)took full advantage of to file one false ethics complaint after another after another against Palin to the point that Palin has amassed 1/2 million dollars in personal legal bills and the state of Alaska (bureaucracy) had spent 2m to handle the various ongoing complaints by Palin’s admission during her resignaton speech.
Are you familiar with the expression “handwriting on the wall”? Sarah could see what the last 16 months of her term in office had in store for her-many more ethical complaints, more legal bills, more taxpayer dollars down the drain. Personal bankruptcy would soon await the Palin family if Palin did not get from the under the siege of ethical complaints.
Picture a soldier in a foxhole pinnned down by besiegers on all side preparing to administer the coup de grace to its prey. And make no mistake Sarah Palin was the prey of Obama and the Far Left in cahoots with the MSM who made it appear she was guilty of all the ethical violations. And like the soldier who waited for night to come to crawl out of his foxhole to safety, Palin decided to extricate herself from her foxhole on July 3, 2009 to save herself and her family from being permanently ruined and as she said to save the taxpayers of Alaska millions more in costs if she had stayed in office.
You know the rest: Palin wrote Going Rogue and became financially independent. All the ethical complaints were all thrown out, having no basis in law. The narrative is that Palin “quit” but in reality she eluded personal bankruptcy and ruination and total destruction by the Far Left.
Palin will eventually have to explain to the world why she left office but almost 2m members on her Facebook know why she did leave and we’re happy she did. Would Obama and the Democrats be on the ropes right now without Palin pounding them guerrilla style over the last year and would Obama be now at 43 with Rasmussen in job approval and 44 with Gallup without Palin being omnipresent, constantly a thorn in Obama’s side, day after day exposing the Obama radical agenda for what it is?
technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 2:08 AM
Dude – are you still using LSD in your old age or something?
As another poster noted, she’s the hottest ticket in the speechmaking market. There’s a reason for that. See if you can figure out what it is. (caveat: your answer will reveal much about who/what you are.)
Fishoutofwater on July 25, 2010 at 2:10 AM
Thanks..:)
Dire Straits on July 25, 2010 at 2:19 AM
A reminder why Sarah Palin is viable:
From Time article March 31, 1980
President Ford: “A very conservative Republican cannot win in a national election.” (speaking of Reagan)
National opinion polls continue to show Carter leading Reagan by…a margin of about 25%. March 31, 1980
California Pollster Mervin Field, who just last fall felt that Reagan’s nomination would lead to a Republican disaster, has changed his mind. “I just don’t see how you could dispassionately and factually argue that it will be a Carter victory. It’s going to be very close race.” (Reagan won in a landslide)
“Reagan cannot hope to win, however, unless he moves beyond the hard-line conservative base that has sustained him…he has no experience in Washington politics or foreign affairs.” (sound familiar)
“But to say that Reagan can be elected is by no means to say that he will be. On the contrary, he looks very much the underdog. Some party operatives are plainly unhappy with his selection.” (preview of coming attractions)
“Carter, for all his problems, has the power of incumbency…he also is a relatively known quantity in the White House, whereas the inexperienced Reagan would require a definite leap of faith by voters supporting him.” (notice that even a two term governor like Reagan was called inexperienced)
“Worse perhaps…is Reagan’s relentlessly simple-minded discussion of complex problems…” (This does sound familiar)
COMMENT:
The more things change the more they remain the same.
technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 2:56 AM
This:
http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2010/06/26/sarah-palin-barack-obama-and-the-cost-of-fighting-chicago-thug-politics/
gary4205 on July 25, 2010 at 3:12 AM
Thanks for posting the Time article about Reagan, technopeasant. I am gonna save it to my computer and just copy and paste it in the Palin threads from now on to save myself the trouble of constantly having to repeat myself. ;-)
NoLeftTurn on July 25, 2010 at 5:49 AM
Refudiate liberalism! (I’ll go with Bill Kristol.)
tigerinexile on July 25, 2010 at 12:03 AM
RightXBrigade on July 25, 2010 at 6:59 AM
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