Oh my: Palin 28, Romney 18, Gingrich 17, Huckabee 13

Conservative Samizdat on July 24, 2010 at 2:18 PM

MANY OF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO ADMIT THE FAULTS OR WEAKENESSES OF PALIN AND IF ANYONE POINT IT OUT, A ZOMBIE SHARK FRENZY ENSUES OVER THE POSTER MAKING THE ACCUSATION

As many of you know I am a passionate supporter of Sarah Palin but I have been accused of being a supporter of Mitt Romney occasionally because of my analysis of various situations and sometimes questioning the wisdom of Palin pursuing a certain course or making a certain decision and have often commented no one would want me to become a member of their cult because I am an iconoclastic conservative which may be counterintutive for some but it is what it is.

It was in March 2009 that I called for Sarah Palin to not to run for re-election in 2010 and I also expressed my hope that she could leave office early because being under siege from the filing of multiple ethical violations at the behest of the Obama war room, Palin was not only not able to do her job as governor but if her enemies had their way they would destroy not only her political career but her personal life as well through forcing her into personal bankruptcy. Despite that the greater majority of Palinistas criticized me for my recommendation (I have never met Sarah Palin; she does not know me)saying there would be no way Palin could ever run for POTUS if she left office early, that I was irresponsible to suggest something so outrageous.

And I have called Levi Johnston and Bristol Palin Sarah Palin’s Achilles’ heel which has not endeared me to many Palin supporters. But from what has happened in the last couple of weeks with Levi getting back with Bristol, as I feared the tabloidization of the Palin family would only intensify as the MSM on orders from the Obama war room attempt to diminish Sarah Palin’s political credentials by associating her with her lowbrow future son-in-law and a daughter who they want to imply has gone astray because Sarah Palin is a bad mother and has failed her daughter by pursuing a political career. Of course we know this political strategy is directed at marginalizing Sarah from evangelical voters, traditional conservatives, and disdainful independents for the Left feels it affects their sensibilities with EV and indies not wanting to be associated with this “reality show” and someone who aspires to be the next flamboyant celebretard, often called “the celebrity meme”.

I wanted to point this out because I fully understand the situation that Sarah Palin currently finds herself in terms of personal life as well as her political life.

Having said that objectively has anyone noticed that no one of the Left, its minions in the MSM or even the anti-Palin forces on the right want to challenge Sarah Palin based on her Reagan conservative views? For example why is no one calling Palin out on her support of Governor Jan Brewer and the Arizona illegal immigration law. why is no one opposing Palin’s call to lift the moratorium on offshore drilling, and why has no one castigated Palin for opposing the building of the mosque at ground zero? Could it be because that would elevate Palin’s conservative viewpoints and her stature in the public consciousness or on the right does the GOP establishment fear a major fissure will arise on the right if it decides to lambaste Palin for her views? I think the answer is yes to both questions.

Having said that has anyone also noticed that despite the Left’s best efforts to not to give Palin a platform in which she can personally resonate with Americans in excoriating Obama and his radical agenda on a continual basas and the right’s best efforts to marginalize Palin as too polarizing and unelectable to be considered as a viable option for the GOP nomination in 2012, Palin has transcended these efforts to where she is now tied with Obama at 46-46 in a PPP h/h matchup and leading by double-digits in the Econ poll among Republicans, the topic of this thread.

In addition in a previous post I posted 18 months of blog entries at the PPP blog on Sarah Palin to show you how determined PPP, a Democratic pollster, was to destroy any chances that Palin could become viable. Obviously they have also failed.

The Left has failed, the anti-Palin forces on the right have failed, the MSM and the Journolist has failed, and PPP has failed and her eenemies in the entertainment industry and academia have failed to take her down. And how do I know this? The topic of this thread is telling.

Yes Sarah Palin has some personal challenges with her family, that is undeniable but I would suggest if you really want to derail Sarah Palin, start arguing against her political viewpoints, accuse her of being an extremist or outside the mainstream or accuse Palin of being a quitter but stop with the celebrity meme, the clueless idiot meme and trying to trivialize Sarah Palin, because it ain’t going to work. The polls tell the tale, my friend. It has taken almost two years for Palin to rehabilitate her image from narratives created about her during the 2008 campaign, and she is now very close to doing that, despite the best efforts of her enemies.

Sarah Palin is a political genius and superstar. If she were not, there is no way she would have survived the daily scrutiny of her life and the flurry of criticism, ridicule and vituperation that she has been under for the last two years and thrived as a national poltical figure. Palin is formidable and her opponents make a huge, huge mistake to underestimate her abilities and talents. There are two former governors of Alaska, one Republican and the other Democratic who can testify to that fact.

technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 10:14 AM

Potfry on July 25, 2010 at 9:38 AM

I SAID IT BEFORE I WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA OR MAYBE AN OBSCURE THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE BEFORE I VOTE FOR FRANKENSARAH. I SUSPECT MANY OTHERS WILL FOLLOW SUIT, REGARDLESS OF POLLS, WHEN THEY ARE ALONE IN THE BOOTH AND CONSIDER THE REALITY OF HER AS PRESIDENT

The Obama war room should hire you as its point man. This is exactly the political strategy imho that the Far Left will pursue against Sarah Palin going forward, but unfortunately for the Left, Obama and his radical agenda have been exposed and Sarah Palin has done a lot in her guerrilla style to “let the sunshine in” and allow the American people to understand who Obama is and what his “transformative” and “redistributive” agenda is all about.

Simply Potfry if you vote for Obama in 2012, you are voting for authoritarianism, socialism, Marxism, or Fascism and condemning America to further tyranny. If you are sincere in voting for Obama, our side doesn’t need you. You are either for us or against us. There is no in-between. And I it doesn’t matter if Palin is the nominee or not.

Now if you vote 3rd party at least you will not be voting for Obama and I congratulate you for that. But what it tells me about you is that you don’t want to be part of the solution but part of the apathy that has allowed the Leftist Zeitgeist to expand since the 1970′s and now flourish under Obama.

Finally I disagree with you that a substantial number of folks on our side will vote for Obama. He is an anathema, the personification of evil. If someone indeed casts a vote for Obama in 2012 he/she is countenancing his “reign of terror” and is not on the side of freedom and liberty and individual initiative and opportunity. Good riddance I say! Let’s expose fifth columnists sooner than later.

technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 10:54 AM

ddrintn on July 25, 2010 at 11:36 AM

SHE’S POISON

Yea, and she will also provide the antidote to Obama and his radical agenda.

technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 11:48 AM

entagor on July 25, 2010 at 12:32 PM

APOLOGIES AND HIDING UNDER ROCKS ARE NEVER SIGNS OF STRENGTH

Amen! If it were not for Palin’s relentless guerrilla attack on Obama’s fortress in the past year, Mitt Romney could have laid in the proverbial weeds and the majority of GOP primary voters would not have thought worse of Mitt for doing so, being “the next one” but imho the GOP primary voters are beginning to focus on the many political successes orchestrated by the former governor of Alaska and can no longer deny the impact she has had on the national political conversation recently and in conjunction with that many conservative Republicans imho are now feeling that Romney has been AWOL for too long, that his absence from the battlefield for most of 2012, as you say hiding under rocks, is never sign of strength but of weakness.

Imho, Team Romney has made a huge mistake in strategy in 2010 by having Mitt remain so low profile. Yes Mitt may recover and recapture his “inevitability label” to some extent but he will never again be seen as the super odds on favorite to capture the GOP nomination in 2012. Romney has lost his political luster bestowed on him by the MSM, GOP establishment and by virtue of his 2008 2nd place showing in the primaries. It’s a whole new ball game. If you want the nomination Mitt, you’ll have to get in the ring and fight for it. And you know Mitt, under those conditions, I’d give the advantage to Palin. If you beat her Mitt more power to you, but I don’t think you can unless you get a new backbone, which your ego or advisors won’t allow you to get.

technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM

katiejane on july 25, 2010 at 1:11 PM

LOOKS LIKE THEY (ANTI-PALIN CROWD) WOULD BE CHEERING HER LOSS JUST AS MUCH AS THE KOS CROWD

An interesting survey/poll question to separate the wheat from the chaff is to ask liberal/moderate Republicans who represent currently 27% of the GOP, who do they loathe most: Obama or Palin?

Unfortunately, I think the majority of the RINO’s would pick Palin. I really do. And that is what is wrong with the GOP: Too many factions to hell-bent on spilling the blood of its own members rather than inflicting pain and suffering on the enemy in a “take no prisoners” fashion.

Oh by the way there is precedent for this. In the 1930′s the Conservative govt under Stanley Baldwin hated backbencher Winston Churchill way more than they loathed the newly crowned Chancellor of Germany, Adolf Hitler.

technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Bad news for the anti-Palin forces. The editor of the Anchorage Daily News and former Palin hater will vote for Palin over Obama if she runs in 2012:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2558579/posts

From Brices Crossroads in comment section:

“Believe me, this fellow’s mindset, warped as it was, was the view of many Reagan voters in 1980. Many had misgivings about him, but they appraised the situation and decided that Carter had to go. Once the decision to fire Carter was taken, the only option (Anderson could never have won) was Reagan. And they said, as this dummie says now, “Reagan couldn’t be as bad as Carter.” And they pulled the lever for him.”

“She (Palin) is the frontrunner for the “Fire Obama vote.” if people decide he has to go for the good of the country, they can either not vote or vote for Palin. If they really want Obama out, which most will, THEY WILL VOTE FOR PALIN EVEN IF THEY HATE HER (my bold print).”

“…if she is the GOP nominee and the voters have made the judgment to fire Obama, she will be the 45th President of the United States. The real issue will be how effective her campaign will be. If she runs a campaign of conviction, guts and panache that resembles the last year, something of which she is entirely capable (and which I find the most likely scenario). the GOP will obliterate the Democratic candidates down ballot and it will be a realigning election even deeper and more enduring than 1980 and 1932.”

“This is why the Democrats fear her. Because of her vision, the strength of her convictions and her political skills, she threatens their power not merely for four or eight years, but for generations. She is going to reorient the country’s view of the Constitution away from its current use to promite “fairness” (which the liberals call “justice)and which Marx referred to as “from each according to his ability…”) to its true purpose which is to PROTECT people from the Government. She will begin repealing laws where possible, impounding funds to starve the leviathan when laws cannot be repealed, and using all the powers of the Presdiency in a full bore assault on this entire philsophy and underpinnings. This is what the liberals in D.C feared that Reagan would do, but what he never acheived for reasons too complex to get into here. Where Reagan merely scratched the surface, Palin will blow the door wide open. God go with her.”

technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 2:36 PM

This is the not first Econ/youguv poll done on Sarah Palin. Actually over the last few months periodically they have polled her favorables:

DATE: OVER 65+ W M WHITE GOP IND CONS
2009
7/10 38.6 58.8 34.8 42.9 43.3 79.0 38.3 76.4
8/20 38.5 49.9 37.2 40.0 42.9 77.5 43.8 76.1
11/6 36.5 49.4 31.9 41.4 40.4 73.9 38.0 75.4

2010
2/11 38.6 57.4 34.5 43.2 42.7 76.0 39.9 76.6
7/8 37.8 55.2 34.0 42.0 42.0 77.6 33.7 76.5
7/22 36.4 50.1 31.8 41.5 40.9 75.7 37.2 76.1

COMMENT:

I think you can see that Palin has been consistently above 40% F with WHITE voters and males, above 50 F with the 65+ crowd and around 75% F with both the GOP and conservatives for quite a while now. But what may changed now is what I call the credibility gap, the gap that exists between those who “like” her and those who would cast a vote for her, may have narrowed where there are not nearly as many people as skeptical now that either will run for POTUS or that she qualified for the job and electable.

technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 3:53 PM

NoLeftTurn on July 25, 2010 at 4:45 PM

That piece by Brices Crossroads needs to get out to every Palin site and all the Palinistas. When the going gets rough or tough as we move along to November it will be important to read his piece again and again. It is one of the most uplifting and insightful pieces that I have read for a long time that links the voters of the Reagan years with our current political predicament and lay of the land.

Once a Palinista reads it, there is no turning back. Bridges will be burnt and Rubicon will be crossed. We shall never surrender to Obama and his Marxist hordes.

technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 5:00 PM

spen52 on July 23, 2010 at 7:45 PM

I WOULD AGREE THIS POLL REPRESENTS A SLIDE IN ROMNEY SUPPORT, MORE SO THAN A SURGE IN PALIN SUPPORT…HIS CARRY-OVER POSITION FROM 2008. AS LONG AS HE STAYED IN THE BACKGROUND HIS SUPPORT STAYED ESSENTIALLY STATIC

One of the interesting dimensions in politics is the decision of a voter to “park” his vote with the candidate he/she voted for in the past primaries, which begs the question why he/she has decided on this course of action or inaction, and what incentive, trigger, or event could figuratively cause them to get off their couch and change the channel?

Well let me first deal with voters making a decision to “park their votes. Here are several reasons why they may choose to do so:

1)Some people are simply creatures of habit or intellectually lazy
2)They genuinely like the candidate
3)Lack of knowledge or appeal of current roster of candidates
4)Don’t want to think about politics now-too soon in the cycle
5)The campaign has kept in touch with them between primary cycles-on a mailing or e-mail list
6)They share the candidate’s values or ideology
7)They are currently giving money to the candidate
8)MSM reports of how candidate is doing in the polls, raising money, whether he will run etc.
9)Other family members. friends or church members are backing this candidate-follower the leader syndrome
10)Personal friendship or close acquaintance
11)Vested interests
12)Best chance to win in 2012
13)The establishment choice

Now crudely put what could cause these folks to change channels in midstream, in other words shift their loyalties to a different candidate or become undecided? And I will pay special attention to Romney in answering this question:

At the end of 2009 and beginning 2010, there was growing momentum through Fox News and the media and blogs in general that Mitt Romney “was the man to beat” as Tiger Woods is the man to beat in any golf tournament he enters. He was portrayed as “the next one” and some had the audacity to tout him as “the inevitable candidate”. Obviously the strategy of Team Romney was to surround Mitt with an aura of invincibility and to project a growing confidence that his high finish in the 2008 primaries made him deserving of the nod in 2012. And to boot the GOP had a habit of rewarding the high loser of the previous primaries with the nod in the next. For example McCain finished second to Bush in 2000 and got the nod in 2008. Same with Reagan in 1976 and then the nod in 1980. And so it stands to reason that Romney voters, as spen52 suggested, carried over their vote for Romney to this election cycle, being prepared to “park” their vote with Romney until something changed their mind, if it ever did. Thus Romney did well in the PPP state polls in February, March and April, and he did surprisingly well among conservatives, in many states even better than Sarah Palin.

But then in May, PPP changed the dynamics of the poll by including Newt Gingrich’s name and Ron Paul’s name consistently in every poll. The first sign of trouble for Romney was in Colorado in mid-May when PPP revealed that Mitt had lost 19 points in CO between the Feb. and May polls (44 to 25%) and that Sarah Palin at 29% was now the frontrunner in CO. But the real story of the poll was how much Newt had cut into Romney’s core supporters.

Now one could make the argument it was a fluke, but after the same thing happened in several more polls with Newt being the fly in the ointment and Romney declining in the second poll in a state by double-digits it became abundantly clear that Romney’s polls numbers were going “south”. And frankly until I see any evidence to the contrary I will assume they are still going south even now.

Not everybody is a political junkie but a lot of folks are and once they got wind of Mitt apparently losing support with Newt being the chief beneficiary, these folks who had parked their vote with Mitt out of 2008 loyalty imho began to gradually rethink their support for Mitt and like many folks in mid May in CO decided that Newt was more their cup of tea. Of course by laying low Romney did not do anything to help his cause while these folks made the move to Newt. If he had, perhaps he could have caused it to be a gentle ripple rather than a tidal wave that went Newt’s way.

Now the $64,000 question is why did so many of Romney’s supposed supporters move over to Newt? Frankly I don’t know and that would be an excellent for a pollster to ask. But suffice it to say it did happen. Now while this was going on Palin was also gaining more support as well, some from Romney but imho evangelicals from Huckabee because of the uncertainty he will run or not and also from the undecided category (many Tea party types) of those who always liked Palin but had fallen for the MSM that Palin was either unqualified or unelectable but had seen enough and realize that they were being sold a bill of goods by the MSM.

As a result Romney’s numbers have plummeted while Newt’s have soared and Palin has been on the ascendancy as well; but because Palin started at a higher threshold of support she jumped to #1 while Newt is shown by Econ to be only 1 point behind Mitt.

Could Romney have staved off his loss of support by being more engaged in the spring and early summer? We’ll never know but if he never retakes the lead again, we might be able to conclude that Mitt blew his opportunity to be POTUS in the spring-early summer of 2010. In a year or two we’ll find out if this was actually the case.

In conclusion I think Team Romney has missed one key component that has apparently allowed Sarah Palin to break out of the pack, which is the hatred,loathing, animosity whatever you want to call it towards Obama and his radical socialist agenda and the ability of Palin to tap into that frustration apparently oblivious to Team Romney at the time.

Is this a breakthrough for Palin in terms of the polls? We’ll see after a couple more horserace polls but let me say that Palin has had a wonderful couple of months with endorsements, speeches, appearances of Fox news, cogent Facebook posts etc. and it would not surprise me one bit that she has finally broken through with some of the folks who always gave her thumbs up but no longer are reticent about voting for her. And that is bad news for Romney and the other GOP contenders as well. Once a Palinista, always a Palinista. You will not be able to win them back.

technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Yephora on July 25, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Jeb is now sending out trial balloons to see how receptive GOP primary voters would be if he ran.

Here is how I see Jeb. Ideally he wants to wait till 2016 after the sacrificial lamb (Romney, Huckabee, Gingrich) is defeated by Obama and then he can ride in one his white steed to save the day four years later.

Unfortunately the rise of Sarah Palin may have knocked his plans into a cocked hat. Jeb is keeping his eye on Palin and frankly he may have reached a point where he is sizing up the lay of the land and may not like what he is seeing from the three wise men (Mitt, Huck and Newt) lately.

As you know the GOP eatablishment is heavily invested in Romney? The $64,000 question is whether the powers to be would bail on Mitt for Jeb and if they did when would they make the move or what would prompt them to make the move. And of course if they did, would Jeb run?

I would say if more polls confirm Palin with a double digit lead over the field and that continues throught the summer, I can see the possibility being discussed behind closed doors. It’s do or die for the GOP establishment. They cannot allow Palin to prevail and they are prepared to do anything to stop her from winning the GOP nomination in 2012 including backing another Bush.

technopeasant on July 25, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Here are the results of the entire poll of the GOP contenders at Econ/youguv (top 4 contenders):

OVERALL 18-29 30-64 65+ WHITE BLACK HISP
PALIN 16.2* 15.6 16.2* 16.8* 17.2* 14.0* 8.6
ROMNEY 14.4 16.0* 13.9 13.9 13.9 4.9 10.1*
HUCKABEE 11.3 7.5 11.8 16.0 12.0 9.1 7.2
GINGRICH 7.8 3.6 8.1 13.7 8.1 4.3 9.7

MALE FEMALE HIGH SCH SOME COLL COLL GR
PALIN 16.4 15.9* 18.2* 17.2* 10.6
ROMNEY 18.1* 11.2 9.2 16.1 23.0*
HUCKABEE 9.3 13.2 10.6 12.8 10.8
GINGRICH 11.4 4.7 6.8 8.7 8.7

DEMS GOP INDIES LIBS MOD CONS
PALIN 10.3 28.4* 13.6 12.1 11.4 23.4*
ROMNEY 11.3* 17.9 17.9* 15.5* 13.7 19.4
HUCKABEE 10.0 12.6 13.3 5.6 16.1* 15.0
GINGRICH 2.7 16.6 8.9 2.4 6.6 16.1

NE MW STH WEST <$40,000 40-100 100+
PALIN 12.9 20.9* 16.2* 14.4 16.7* 16.1* 14.2
ROMNEY 15.8* 9.6 11.7 22.1* 10.0 15.5 21.4*
HUCKABEE10.4 13.0 10.7 11.5 10.6 13.0 7.0
GINGRICH7.2 4.8 10.6 6.8 6.0 9.0 14.6

*frontrunner in category

COMMENTS:

1)Obviously from this thread Palin does very well with Republicans but she also does well with conservatives, all age spectrums, the lower and middle class, and in the midwest and the south. She does not do as well with college graduates, those who make over $100,000 a year, in the West, and with moderates. The only thing I would challenge with this profile is about not doing as well in the West. I think it has been determined there are pockets in the West, Rocky Mountain states that she does very well but not on the West coast.

2)Romney also does well across the age spectrums, does better with males than females, does very well with college graduates and those who make over $100,000 a year, but does not do well with high school grads, and in the midwest and as we know from the poll is trailing Palin by double-digits among Republicans although he only trails her by 4 points among conservatives.

3)Huckabee does well with seniors, better with females and like Palin poorly wih college graduates and those making 100+ a year. Being 15 points behind Palin among Republicans is surprising but so is being number one among moderates. Regionally it is obvious than Huck doesn't do as well in the West and it is very surprising he only finishes 3rd in the South, which is supposed to his stronghold.

4)I don't know what to make of Newt's numbers because except for 65+, and finishing 3rd among Republicans and conservatives and doing decent in the south and finishing 2nd with those making $100000+ year Newt's other numbera are abyssmal. People often talk about Palin having no crossover support. Gingrich appears in this poll to have very little of that as well.

technopeasant on July 26, 2010 at 2:20 AM

Here is how much the Left fears Palin:

From The Daily Caller:

These are e-mails and quote of journolists after Palin’s convention speech on Sept. 3, 2008

Ari Melber of the Nation:

“The speech is gangbusters. Her tone is pitch perfect.”

Adele Stan of Media Consortium:

“Palin is golden.”

Michael Tomasky of the Guardian

“People get a hold of yourselves. it’s a very good speech with good lines. But there’s very little substance.”

From Jonathan Strong of the Daily Caller

Palin’s speech had been remarkably effective. This troubled members of Journolist. On Sept. 8, 2008 five days after Palin’s national debut, some members of the group discussed producing coordinated propaganda designed to wound Palin and boost Obama.

Ed Kilgore of Progressive Policy institute

“It requires no particular strategic genius or message coordination to recognize that we and the Obama campaign have the next 2 months to demonstrate that McCain and Palin represent the status quo party, the status quo ideology and status quo policies.”

Todd Gitlin Columbia University Granduate School of Journalism

“On the question of liberals coordinating, what the hell’s wrong with some critical mass of liberal bloggers & journalists saying the following among themselves:

“McCain lies about his maverick status…Palin lies about her maverick status. McCain has a wretched temperament. McCain is a warmonger. Palin belongs to a crackpot church and feels warmly about a crackpot party that trashes America. These people are cynical. These people are taking you for a ride. These people are fakes. These people love Bush…philosophize with a hammer…”

technopeasant on July 26, 2010 at 5:38 AM

hawksruleva on July 26, 2010 at 10:39 AM

Look at the history of the GOP, they don’t go “maverick” and pick dark horses to become the nominee of their party.

They prefer prominent military men or politicians, sitting VP’s or the one who finished second in the previous primary cycle (Mitt or Huck depending on whichi unit of measurement you use): Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush 41, Dole, Bush 43, McCain.

I hate to disillusion you but the GOP is a very traditional party in picking its nominee. Now having said that Palin falls into a special category. Although she was not a sitting VP, she did run as a VP candidate. Now in case you think I am exaggerating her credentials I am fully aware that since the inception of the current two party system of Republicans and Democrats since 1854, no first-time losing VP candidate has ever gone on to win their party’s nomination in the next presidential election cycle, let alone gone on to be POTUS in the next 4 years. So yes I know Palin is bucking the odds, but she is also bucking the odds that a woman will lead the GOP into the general election. But look above at the topic on this thread-Palin leads among Republicans according to this poll by double-digits and leads Romney by 7 points among those who identify with the Tea Party movement.

Now you might ask how is that possible, and how is possible that PPP in its July poll showed Palin tied with Obama in a head to head matchup at 46-46? Could it be that she is gaining momentum with Republicans and conservatives? Could she now be perceived as electable now?

Would your opinion on Palin change if you knew she could blow the Messiah away in 2012? Currently Obama is polling around 38% with WHITE voters and Palin in the PPP poll was beating Obama 55% to 36%, a whopping 19 points. How much do want to bet over the next 2 years that Palin could extend her support among WHITE voters to anywhere between 60%-62%. If she did that she would rout the Messiah, a la Reagan.

technopeasant on July 26, 2010 at 11:02 AM

Norweigan when I said “you” I meant to write “anybody” with regards to the dark horses. Sorry if you misunderstood. My apologies.

technopeasant on July 26, 2010 at 11:41 AM