Krauthammer: The Democrats are going to pass something crazy in the lame-duck Congress, aren’t they?

posted at 8:59 pm on July 23, 2010 by Allahpundit

A timely op-ed on a day when Biden’s going around telling people that the “heavy lifting” on legislation is finished and that they’re ready to run on what they’ve already passed. That means no more major bills — except, possibly, until the lame-duck session, when even the bare trace of accountability that exists now will be all gone.

Honestly, with huge GOP gains a fait accompli, it’s time to start worrying about this. Loudly and often. Just one question: What can be done to stop them?

As John Fund reports in the Wall Street Journal, Sens. Jay Rockefeller, Kent Conrad and Tom Harkin are already looking forward to what they might get passed in a lame-duck session. Among the major items being considered are card check, budget-balancing through major tax hikes, and climate-change legislation involving heavy carbon taxes and regulation.

Card check, which effectively abolishes the secret ballot in the workplace, is the fondest wish of a union movement to which Obama is highly beholden. Major tax hikes, possibly including a value-added tax, will undoubtedly be included in the recommendations of the president’s debt commission, which conveniently reports by Dec. 1. And carbon taxes would be the newest version of the cap-and-trade legislation that has repeatedly failed to pass the current Congress — but enough dead men walking in a lame-duck session might switch and vote to put it over the top…

How then to prevent a runaway lame-duck Congress? Bring the issue up now — applying the check-and-balance of the people’s will before it disappears the morning after Election Day. Every current member should be publicly asked: In the event you lose in November — a remote and deeply deplorable eventuality, but still not inconceivable — do you pledge to adhere to the will of the electorate and, in any lame-duck session of Congress, refuse to approve anything but the most routine legislation required to keep the government functioning?

His ominous parting line about the possibility of Democrats breaking their pledge: “Call me naive, but I can’t believe anyone would be that dishonorable.” Gulp. Just one question. Is there a single Republican in the Senate — Graham, Collins, Snowe, Brown, etc. — who would dare join with the Democrats to be the 60th vote in passing lame-duck legislation? I just can’t believe it. Graham is already too cowed by the politics of cap and trade to vote for it in a regular session; to do it after they’ve taken a beating at the polls, as a last gasp before a new Congress is seated, would be unthinkable even for him. Exit question: Am I the one who’s being naive now?

Update: No wonder they’re thinking about the lame-duck session. It’s not like any of their signature legislation has helped them in the polls thus far.

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Is there a single Republican in the Senate — Graham, Collins, Snowe, Brown, etc. — who would dare join with the Democrats to be the 60th vote in passing lame-duck legislation?

Bennett. It will be his way of saying F-you.

Mark1971 on July 23, 2010 at 9:03 PM

An animal is most dangerous when it is lying on the ground bleeding, you let your guard down and it will bite you one last time.

Cookies Mom on July 23, 2010 at 9:04 PM

“Just one question: What can be done to stop them?”

Can we somehow just start calling random DNC members “racist?”

cynccook on July 23, 2010 at 9:04 PM

Just one question: What can be done to stop them?

Permanently?

(I kid, I kid)

FloatingRock on July 23, 2010 at 9:06 PM

There will be some Democrats in the Senate (those up for election in ’12) who will be way too scared to vote for any of this carp.

Buford Gooch on July 23, 2010 at 9:07 PM

Bad moon rising. They are too unprincipled though to stick with a pledge…anybody remember Stupak?

So, really, I don’t know what can be done about it.

AUINSC on July 23, 2010 at 9:08 PM

Just one question: What can be done to stop them?

There’s not very many ways to stop the ruling class from doing what they do, unfortunately. This explains why: http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print

FloatingRock on July 23, 2010 at 9:10 PM

Let them make fools of themselves.

With so many lawmakers threatening subpoenae, I wouldn’t be surprised if each and every piece of “historic” “unprecedented” legislation is overturned, reversed and remanded to the new 2010 Congress and perhpas the SCOTUS.

Of course, Elena Kagan will not be on the SCOTUS because her “Appointment” will also be overturned, along with all the “historic” and “unprecedented” legislation passed by the “historic” and “unprecedented” Congress that violated the rules of Public decency without consideration of or for The Constitution.

Key West Reader on July 23, 2010 at 9:10 PM

Yeah, well, there’s another third of the Senate up for re-election in 2012. That third should consider their future with an electorate that isn’t in a forgive and forget mood.

SlaveDog on July 23, 2010 at 9:10 PM

“Call me naive, but I can’t believe anyone would be that dishonorable.”

A slight nod at anyone we know?

obleo on July 23, 2010 at 9:11 PM

There are six elections that are special elections. While it may depend on state law whether the winner takes office immediately (yes, the SoS of MA did drag it out for Scott Brown so the Kennedy flunky could keep voting), there may be some winners who will take office sooner than 1/3/11:

Vacated senate seats:

New York (Clinton)
Illinois (Obama)
Delaware (Biden)
Colordao (Salazar)
Flroida (Martinez)
West Virginia (Byrd)

Wethal on July 23, 2010 at 9:11 PM

It’s discussions like this that make me wish I still enjoyed alcohol and pharmaceuticals.

tru2tx on July 23, 2010 at 9:11 PM

Permanently?

(I kid, I kid)

FloatingRock on July 23, 2010 at 9:06 PM
Spencer Ackerman? Is that you? Have they finally turned you?

cynccook on July 23, 2010 at 9:12 PM

Is there a single Republican in the Senate — Graham, Collins, Snowe, Brown, etc. — who would dare join with the Democrats to be the 60th vote in passing lame-duck legislation?

It depends entirely on the legislation proposed. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to hear that the Maine twins and/or Brown decided to be #60 on card check, for instance.

I wouldn’t trust ANY of them at any time, any place.

GoldenEagle4444 on July 23, 2010 at 9:12 PM

You can always depend on lying little zipper weasels to be lying little zipper weasels

Aggie95 on July 23, 2010 at 9:12 PM

“Is there a single Republican in the Senate — Graham, Collins, Snowe, Brown, etc. — who would dare join with the Democrats to be the 60th vote in passing lame-duck legislation?”

It comes down to this…

Will the Country Class make enough noise that no matter what the Ruling Class has to offer…

… they realize that they still have to live in this Country?

Seven Percent Solution on July 23, 2010 at 9:12 PM

Make it clear to the dead duck politicos that they are about to be unemployed…and have to go home.

A place that they will have to live with the hatred, stares, fingerpointing and abuse, with no tattered shawl of elective righteousness to protect them.

Their wives, their children, their families extended will all suffer the enmity brought about by their final banzai charge.

And history will spit on them.

heldmyw on July 23, 2010 at 9:15 PM

Maybe its an important move to demonstrate character. Maybe we should hope this does happen. We take the slap.

obleo on July 23, 2010 at 9:15 PM

The Kraut-man is naive and so are you, AP. The Dems will leave no opportunity unturned in their quest for statism.

KS Rex on July 23, 2010 at 9:17 PM

Krauthammer: The Democrats are going to pass something crazy in the lame-duck Congress, aren’t they?

Democrats have already passed something crazy.

The lame-duck status will inspire them to reach for more crazy.

rukiddingme on July 23, 2010 at 9:17 PM

It’s discussions like this that make me wish I still enjoyed alcohol and pharmaceuticals.

tru2tx on July 23, 2010 at 9:11 PM

Ain’t that the truth.

thomasaur on July 23, 2010 at 9:17 PM

A little OT:

Was wondering around and found myself at a liberal blog. To a person, they were adamantly convinced that:
Teh won is working night and day every day for Americans.
No one wants to admit all the really great things he’s done.
The MSM is so far right they should be investigated.
History will show that this is the true leadership that Americans need.
He didn’t give us the single payer public option because Bush preempted the effort.
If it wasn’t for teh won we would have all died from global warming.
The Muslims have much greater respect for us now.
Our troops are finally coming home.
The economic recovery is going so well that the liars and racists should stop complaining.
The jobs market is beginning to sore.
WTF?? What freaken planet are they on? What a bunch of dumb shts!

obleo on July 23, 2010 at 9:18 PM

The Democrats could, of course, make the pledge today and break it tomorrow. Call me naive, but I can’t believe anyone would be that dishonorable.

I cannot believe that any conservative could be that naive!

Why do people respect this idiot?

sharrukin on July 23, 2010 at 9:18 PM

If Pelosi loses the House, what control does she have over the losers? They may not all want to stay in DC and take federal jobs or become lobbyists. Maybe they want to give up the expensive cost of living in DC, the difficulty of finding a decent school (or of keeping two homes so the kids could go to shcool back home), and move home. They may even want to go in to state politics (one of my county commissioners in suburban Philly is a former Dem congressman). Their records will follow them. The losers will be from red or purple district where high taxes and heavy regulation will not play well.

If Pelosi loses the House, would she also be a lame duck as caucus leader? Hoyer has wanted it for a long time, and lost out to Pelosi because Pelosi’s henchman, Murtha, helped round up the votes.

The House members who survive will be from deep blue districts, so maybe they’ll stay loyal to Pelosi, but imagine the humiliation of her losing the Speakership [pause here to smile]. No big office, no big staff no Air Force Three. Hastert left before his term was up. Could she adjust to being Minority Leader? Can’t wait to find out.

Wethal on July 23, 2010 at 9:19 PM

And history will spit on them.

heldmyw on July 23, 2010 at 9:15 PM

And they will be jeered out of Pizza Hut.

Wethal on July 23, 2010 at 9:21 PM

“Call me naive, but I can’t believe anyone would be that dishonorable.”

You’re naive, Charles.

IrishEi on July 23, 2010 at 9:21 PM

I hope that the lame duck Dems do something incredible outrageous. That will only make it easier for the Repubs in the 2012 elections.

docdave on July 23, 2010 at 9:22 PM

OT- AZ law upheld!

FontanaConservative on July 23, 2010 at 9:29 PM

OT- AZ law upheld!

FontanaConservative on July 23, 2010 at 9:29 PM
AW YEAH
Got a link for that?

cynccook on July 23, 2010 at 9:32 PM

OT- AZ law upheld!

FontanaConservative on July 23, 2010 at 9:29 PM

I never was worried. Link?

Electrongod on July 23, 2010 at 9:33 PM

So the domestic terrorists pass something really outrageous, get lambasted from all corners, and then the GOP tries to correct it in 2011 and dares the surviving ‘rats and PBHO to say no. It’s only a bare year after that the leftovers will have to run in 2012 and you don’ think they will be looking at the political corpses of their lost friends and think “whoa”.

Bishop on July 23, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Aren’t they?

Yes they are.

petefrt on July 23, 2010 at 9:34 PM

If Pelosi loses the House, what control does she have over the losers?

Phat cushy jobs as administrators of the over 180 new agencies just thus far, keep in mind that in the new and imrpoved and vastly expanded Obama Gov’t this means a pay raise. Bureaucrats are the highest paid cogs in the machine often making much more than the Prez. With Card Check what hasn’t been unionized yet, will be, so unlike elected office they have a job for life. Added bonus, ot only do they 100% of their current pay of their congressional pension with the new additional salary layered on top, but they can commence working towards a second pension so they hit the double bubble of retiring with both pensions.

With Fancy Nancy playing liasion with the White House promising choicest slots for the first to pledge their votes on whatever monstrosity she’s peddling I’m sure she can twist a few arms and grease some palms.

That’s the kind of leverage Pelosi is going to have in this lame duck session, and given that the Feds are the only people hiring anyways, its a persausive arguement.

Gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside don’t it? Or was that the Glenfiddich I just tossed back?

Archimedes on July 23, 2010 at 9:34 PM

OT- AZ law upheld!

FontanaConservative on July 23, 2010 at 9:29 PM

Did the judge up hold the law or just deny an immediate preliminary injuction for now, with full consideration of law to follow?

Wethal on July 23, 2010 at 9:36 PM

They’re certainly going to try.

But if Dems lose big in November, we may see a new dynamic in Congress. The less insane Dems (yeah, I know) who managed to save their seats may decide to get off the hurtling Obama bus, so as not to get thrown under it once and for all.

Missy on July 23, 2010 at 9:37 PM

This is why Democrats just losing elections is not enough. I commented about this months ago. I had said that if and when the Dems lose congress, the period in between election day and the day Republicans take office might be the most dangerous time for America. With nothing to lose they are liable to pass the most heinous laws possible.
This is why just losing elections is no longer enough in America.
When politicians stoop to this kind of evil, so blatantly working against the American people then it is time for politicians to go to jail. At the least, a congressman who loses their election should not be allowed to receive a tax funded retirement package until his district or state votes on it!

Using the standards set by congress itself, people who commit this kind of destruction on a business are investigated, tried and if convicted, go to jail and are ordered to pay restitution! Members of congress should be held to at least the same standard any other CEO is!

JellyToast on July 23, 2010 at 9:38 PM

The Senate GOP also has what is called the DEFCON strategy (not sure where term came from). They can slow down the Senate to a procedural crawl. McConnell might actually grow a spine and ok this.

Shamnesty was derailed the first time because Sessions refused to waive reading of the bill. Don’t recall what the second time was, but the third time they were voting on amendments, and Reid as Majority Leader, was supposed to vote one way, and slipped up and voted the other. Under the rules, which DeMint and Sessions popped up and cited, the bill had to go back to committee. So it did and died there.

Wethal on July 23, 2010 at 9:40 PM

“Call me naive, but I can’t believe anyone would be that dishonorable.”

You’re naive, Charles.

IrishEi on July 23, 2010 at 9:21 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Grahmnesty agree to vote with them on some sham of a law. It would be the “honorable” thing for him to do!

JellyToast on July 23, 2010 at 9:40 PM

I wouldn’t call it a lame duck strategy, I’d call it a scorched earth strategy. They’re going to burn everything down, then salt the ground.

HakerA on July 23, 2010 at 9:41 PM

If they use the nuclear option they do not need 60 votes. It will also mean that they can still control the agenda in the next congress is the GOP does not get 10 Senate seats and 39 house seats. The filibuster is only important if they are less than 50 senators and there is a Republican president. They may see it a worth pitching.

KW64 on July 23, 2010 at 9:43 PM

OT- AZ law upheld!

FontanaConservative on July 23, 2010 at 9:29 PM

Say, where did you get this?

cynccook on July 23, 2010 at 9:44 PM

Thank God for Scott Brown?

TallDave on July 23, 2010 at 9:45 PM

In 2011, Obama and hte Dems would hav problem sif the GOp took the HOuse, becaseu:

1) All appropriations bills must originate there. There is talk of just not funding Obamacare. Since htey’re going through this year under continuing budget resolutions, something has to be passed to fund the government. We could see a game of chicken between Boehner and Obama. Obama isn’t Clinton and Boehner isn’t Gingrich.

2) Another problem is that the debt limit might have to be raised. Imagine the strings that Boehner could attach to that. And the high stakes game of chicken.

Wethal on July 23, 2010 at 9:45 PM

KW64 on July 23, 2010 at 9:43 PM

I think it takes 67 votes to change senate rules. Not that Reid hasn’t been able to get the senate parliamentarian to interpret rules his way.

Wethal on July 23, 2010 at 9:47 PM

What they really might try to ram through is a budget deficit reduction bill based on the commission’s report.

Introduce a VAT, even at a few percent, and then inch it each year until it’s at 20%, where the British VAT is supposed to reach soon.

Wethal on July 23, 2010 at 9:49 PM

WTF?? What freaken planet are they on? What a bunch of dumb shts!

obleo on July 23, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Keep the faith…I, personally am relying on their ephing-cluelessness. Cheese! I hope I’m right!

Chewy the Lab on July 23, 2010 at 9:50 PM

Thank God for Scott Brown?

TallDave on July 23, 2010 at 9:45 PM

As a statement you would have needed a /sarc tag.

obleo on July 23, 2010 at 9:53 PM

“Call me naive, but I can’t believe anyone would be that dishonorable.”

Wow, that’s the most naive thing I’ve heard in a *long* freaking time.

Charles, even with a casual amount of observation of the last few to several years (even longer, actually) that statement should clearly read that you can’t believe that the Dems would *NOT* be that dishonorable. You and I and they and my dog and my potted plant all know that they will, in fact, be that dishonorable.

Midas on July 23, 2010 at 9:54 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Grahmnesty agree to vote with them on some sham of a law. It would be the “honorable” thing for him to do!

JellyToast on July 23, 2010 at 9:40 PM

So true. No wonder he reminds me of Ashley Wilkes. lol

IrishEi on July 23, 2010 at 10:06 PM

If they lose both houses of Congress, they are going kamikaze all the way. If they still maintain a slim majority, I (naively) think they may even extend the Bush tax cuts since the coming April 15 looks like it’s going to be tough on whomever the ruling party is.

JavelinaBomb on July 23, 2010 at 10:09 PM

Could she adjust to being Minority Leader? Can’t wait to find out.

Wethal on July 23, 2010 at 9:19 PM

No way… her ego is too big…

Khun Joe on July 23, 2010 at 10:11 PM

Make it clear to the dead duck politicos that they are about to be unemployed…and have to go home.

A place that they will have to live with the hatred, stares, fingerpointing and abuse, with no tattered shawl of elective righteousness to protect them.

Heh. Dollars to donuts, most of them never reside in the states they “represented” again. They’ll get cushy lobbyist jobs in DC and hang around with the same people as before rather than have to live amongst the peasants. Do you really think Dorgan’s going home to North Dakota? North Dakota??? Or how about Evan Bayh, whose “official” Indiana residence is a condo worth ~$60K, versus his DC mansion worth ~$2M. Where do you think he’ll spend retirement?

CJ on July 23, 2010 at 10:15 PM

If the ‘rats lose, their resulting tantrum will be epic in ways that will boggle the mind; these are the same people who vandalized the White House after losing the 2000 election.

They naturally abhor Americans as supposed dolts and morons, the ‘rats will look to punish us on their way out for having the temerity to vote them out and for failing to recognize the grand plans they had for us.

Bishop on July 23, 2010 at 10:17 PM

Heh. Dollars to donuts, most of them never reside in the states they “represented” again. They’ll get cushy lobbyist jobs in DC and hang around with the same people as before rather than have to live amongst the peasants. Do you really think Dorgan’s going home to North Dakota? North Dakota??? Or how about Evan Bayh, whose “official” Indiana residence is a condo worth ~$60K, versus his DC mansion worth ~$2M. Where do you think he’ll spend retirement?

CJ on July 23, 2010 at 10:15 PM

Hey, how about a law that your net worth cannot exceed twice what it was before you were elected? Wonder how many of the louses would abandon ship for a lobbiest position?

sharrukin on July 23, 2010 at 10:19 PM

Can we somehow just start calling random DNC members “racist?”

cynccook on July 23, 2010 at 9:04 PM

Their senior klansman just died and he was apparently a saint. Not sure calling them racist would even be reported…well except to call the accusers racist.

TugboatPhil on July 23, 2010 at 10:20 PM

West Virginia (Byrd)

I believe the WV special election will be for a 2 yr term, thus up for re-election in 2012. Likely winner will be current Gov Manchin. The nutroots will likely consider him a DINO. Cannot imagine that he would vote in favor of most of those proposals – if he is seated in time. The current replacement Senator is his puppet.

humdinger on July 23, 2010 at 10:21 PM

The lame-duck Congress can do plenty in the time alotted to complete the Cloward-Pevin job they’ve been doing with Obama. We’re so close to the edge of insolvency, they can just taste the fall of capitalism within their grasp!

stonemeister on July 23, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Isn’t Congress dissolved like parliaments are in the UK and Australia? Individuals and parties should have no power to enact legislation let alone sit in Congress the day after they are defeated.

Crux Australis on July 23, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Just think of the LEGACY that such actions by a ‘lame duck’ Congress would leave with the public. After pulling a stunt like that, it would be difficult for any Democrat to get elected town Dog Catcher.

And what any ‘lame duck’ Congress can pass, the following Congress can move to repeal. Even if it takes two years more to kick the ‘obstructionist’ out of the White House.

GarandFan on July 23, 2010 at 10:36 PM

CNN doesn’t get why legislative victories haven’t translated into strong approval ratings from voters? Do these people have no freakin’ clue? Passing legislation that 70% of Americans disagree with is not exactly a path to popularity or electoral victory.

AZfederalist on July 23, 2010 at 10:37 PM

Am I missing something here..? Don’t the republicans have 41 votes in the senate and can filibuster any bill..?

ujorge on July 23, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Or was that the Glenfiddich I just tossed back?

Archimedes on July 23, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Ah, A fellow wayfarer, I see. =)

OldEnglish on July 23, 2010 at 10:48 PM

first and foremost the American people will not respond well to these idle threats. They have had 2 years, since 2008, to pass this crap and they didn’t. Why? Because there is an election that was 2 years away. They will have the same problem in 2010- half of the eleceted democrats up for re-election in 2012 will not want to be booted for passing lame duck destroying nonsense.

Mainly, there are way to many elected Democrats that intend to be in office for as many years as they can. Their greed for power and money is stronger than passing damaging lame duck crap. Not being in power is what drives them to vote to save their own fannies. That being said I do hope they try the lame duck passage. It will mean the end of the Democratic party for 20 years, Repubs will have total control and even a Republican box of hair could easily get elected as president in 2012. oh yes, this will all but gaurentee it. The Democratic windbags desperation to hang on to power with blackmail doesn’t scare me in the least-or anyone else for that matter

Is this the Democrats campaign strategy? Re-elected us so we can pass corrupt damaging laws or don’t re-elect us and we can pass corrupt damging laws! Way to gaurentee only the crackpot lifties on;ly vote for you harkin! As a former life long Democrat, I am loving the Democrats implosion and coming demise

Niteowl45 on July 23, 2010 at 10:56 PM

Shut the place down. Filibuster everything and have them read any bill or amendment being considered. Let those that aren’t up for election this cycle know that they will be targeted the next cycle. No one gets a pass.

Vince on July 23, 2010 at 10:57 PM

I say the people, if need be, ring the Capitol and prevent them from entering. They could hold a Congress in some other place, but the symbolism would be just awesome.

crosspatch on July 23, 2010 at 11:23 PM

here’s the link

FontanaConservative on July 23, 2010 at 11:25 PM

humdinger on July 23, 2010 at 10:21 PM

The placewarmer Manchin has in there hsa already come out against cap & tax. I think the red state Dems up in 2012 would be a problem for that one. Arlen would vote for it, I wonder about Junior Casey, who is up in 2012. It’s the deficit reduction bill with the VAT I worry about.

Wethal on July 23, 2010 at 11:28 PM

The Senate actually did wait for Brown to be sworn in.

ButterflyDragon on July 23, 2010 at 11:50 PM

Given the danger of a lame duck congress, this means the Dems will campaign on the slogan:

Vote Democrat and nobody gets hurt. Capeesh?

NNtrancer on July 23, 2010 at 11:51 PM

How to stop them? Actually, I think the way to stop them is for every Republican running for office to hammer on this theme relentlessly.

Remind the American people how the Democrats have rammed through their programs without any regard for popular opinion. Ask them if they trust these same Democrats to restrain themselves when they are lame ducks. The answer will be “No.”

The only solution to this problem will be to elect enough Republicans to have a veto proof majority who will be able to repeal anything that the Dems pass in the lame duck session.

Harrell on July 24, 2010 at 12:18 AM

The democrat party does not need to be defeated – it needs to be destroyed.

From the president down to the local dog catcher, vote every single one of them out. Make being a democrat have the same reputation as being a child molester.

Only then will the party clean out the “progressive” anti-American socialists who have hijacked it.

Rebar on July 24, 2010 at 12:26 AM

This is the stuff of nightmares.

WisCon on July 24, 2010 at 2:13 AM

Is there a single Republican in the Senate — Graham, Collins, Snowe, Brown, etc. — who would dare join with the Democrats to be the 60th vote in passing lame-duck legislation?

Well, sometimes history calls…

tommylotto on July 24, 2010 at 2:42 AM

What is the possibility that hundreds of thousands of patriotic Americans could take turns peaceably blocking all entrances to the Capital building for two months?

Would Obama call in troops to disperse them? Would he hesitate to order our soldiers to fire on peaceful civilians?

Just a thought.

Ordinary American on July 24, 2010 at 3:09 AM

What is the possibility that hundreds of thousands of patriotic Americans could take turns peaceably blocking all entrances to the Capital building for two months?

Would Obama call in troops to disperse them? Would he hesitate to order our soldiers to fire on peaceful civilians?

Just a thought.

Ordinary American on July 24, 2010 at 3:09 AM

Answers:
Zero, in a heartbeat!

stonemeister on July 24, 2010 at 5:01 AM

I say the people, if need be, ring the Capitol and prevent them from entering. They could hold a Congress in some other place, but the symbolism would be just awesome.

crosspatch on July 23, 2010 at 11:23 PM

I’m in! Actually, while we’re all here…

Who is John Galt on July 24, 2010 at 5:16 AM

Overheard on the Mall: Excuse me, Citizen, got a light?

Who is John Galt on July 24, 2010 at 5:28 AM

Overheard on the Mall: No Sir, no Reichstag fire for us. I don’t smoke.

Who is John Galt on July 24, 2010 at 5:35 AM

If they pull a lame-duck jam-down, it might be enough to tear this country down. I wouldn’t put it past the Cloward-Piven bunch in the Executive, but surely the Legislative Branch can’t possibly be this stupid/suicidal?

Can they?

hillbillyjim on July 24, 2010 at 5:38 AM

Overheard on the National Mall: I don’t smoke, but will consider starting in mid-November.

Who is John Galt on July 24, 2010 at 5:44 AM

surely the Legislative Branch can’t possibly be this stupid/suicidal?

Can they?

hillbillyjim on July 24, 2010 at 5:38 AM

Yes, they are that stupid…Jim, got a light?

Who is John Galt on July 24, 2010 at 5:52 AM

Jim, got a light?

Who is John Galt on July 24, 2010 at 5:52 AM

My good old Zippo’s still sparkin’. Need a light?

hillbillyjim on July 24, 2010 at 6:00 AM

I should have said:

My good old American-made Zippo…

hillbillyjim on July 24, 2010 at 6:01 AM

What to do?

I agree with the read everything out, filibuster everything, make sure that each and every procedural vote is fully gone through… the Republicans lost the guts to do this with Obamacare. Can they actually figure out that this is exactly what they need to do now? Mind you the ‘read everything out’ and ‘all procedures fully gone through without unanimous consent’ parts can be done in BOTH Houses. There has been no spine to the GOP in either House to do this, and that tells me loads about the character of the current leadership.

Thus option two: at the Democratic loser’s hq in each and every district hold a lovely vigil with a nice warm pot over a fire and pillows.

In the warm pot isn’t soup, but tar.

The pillows are feather pillows.

And the nearby wooden rails and rope are just lovely to look at, no?

The point can be made about such ‘representatives’ of the people back home without having to actually spill one drop of tar. Perhaps a rousing rendition of ‘We Shall Overcome’ can go with it…

ajacksonian on July 24, 2010 at 6:30 AM

What can be done to stop them? Same stuff that stopped them on healthcare…./

ted c on July 24, 2010 at 6:57 AM

There will be some Democrats in the Senate (those up for election in ‘12) who will be way too scared to vote for any of this carp.

Buford Gooch on July 23, 2010 at 9:07 PM

FWIW, I think there are 24 Dem seats up in 2012. With that many at risk, they are almost certain to lose the Senate (if they don’t this time). The way they have been behaving towards voters, I suspect they will see Nov/Dec as their last chance to pass anything for a very long time.

CC

CapedConservative on July 24, 2010 at 7:41 AM

The Senate actually did wait for Brown to be sworn in.

ButterflyDragon on July 23, 2010 at 11:50 PM

They let Paul Kirk keep on voting after the election, even though his term as senator may have expired after the election day. I recall posts back then on whether the statute said he served until the election, which would mean the seat would have been temporarily vacant until Brown was sworn in.

Wethal on July 24, 2010 at 7:50 AM

Would you pick up a hitchhiker when you know he’s going to give you the finger if you don’t?

Would you vote for a democrat when you know he’s going to attack your country if you don’t?

Unlike the common politician, I deal in hypotheticals.

You should too.

jeff_from_mpls on July 24, 2010 at 8:17 AM

Remember back in November, 2008, immediately after the election the leftie loons started calling for W to step down immediately and not wait until January so that Obama could be enthroned? Just wondering what their take will be immediately after this year’s election when they’re handed their a$$es?

Trafalgar on July 24, 2010 at 9:21 AM

The honorable Allahpundit the only thing we can do is to continually speak the truth and remind the public the truth of politicians (D and R career types) only have their own ego in mind when they campaign.

Again, if we must have D’s and R’s running for political office, vice the governing one’s self as inspired by our Declaration of Independence and Constitution, we must insist on keeping the feet of those we vote to the fire to keep their promise.

That means telling those we voted to represent U.S. to vote NAY on anything that does not support their promises.

MSGTAS on July 24, 2010 at 9:57 AM

There will be some Democrats in the Senate (those up for election in ‘12) who will be way too scared to vote for any of this crap.

Buford Gooch on July 23, 2010 at 9:07 PM

FWIW, I think there are 24 Dem seats up in 2012. With that many at risk, they are almost certain to lose the Senate (if they don’t this time). The way they have been behaving towards voters, I suspect they will see Nov/Dec as their last chance to pass anything for a very long time.

CC

CapedConservative on July 24, 2010 at 7:41 AM

Exactly, the crop of dems is a big one in 2012, unlike this year’s. Let’s hope that after November the class of 2012 are too shellshocked to do much of anything. This is also why our shot at the Senate is not that good this year, because the class of 2010 democratic senators is a small one.

slickwillie2001 on July 24, 2010 at 10:06 AM

For one thing, voters could make it clear to the squishies that supposedly don’t have to worry until 2012 or 2014 beore their term expires that if they join in on the lame duck end-run, they WILL face recall ASAP. Barring certain States that have no provision for recalls, that ought to curb their enthusiaism for jamming their pet pogroms thru.

AH_C on July 24, 2010 at 10:57 AM

We need citizens, night and day, surrounding Capitol Hill. They need signs, “I live in XYZ district and I won’t forget your lame duck votes.” They need to know that THEIR constituents voted them down.

They need to see the whites of our eyes every day from November 3rd through the new Congress.

Grace_is_sufficient on July 24, 2010 at 11:23 AM

We can’t stop the deadbeat members of Congress, but at the least we can make Obama own it – IMHO, that’s the best chance of stopping anything like this, and if it doesn’t at least he takes a further hit.

zerosheep on July 24, 2010 at 12:04 PM

What? Cap and Trade is dead. Card-check is dead.

So what?

AnninCA on July 24, 2010 at 12:16 PM

AnninCA on July 24, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Do you perform nightly in Vegas?

Inanemergencydial on July 24, 2010 at 1:21 PM

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