Excellent: Jindal rallies Louisianans to oppose the feds’ drilling moratorium

THAT ISN’T what the Founders intended. Their intent was to prevent that from occuring, to ensure that any President would not be affected by dual loyalties or foreign loyalties when compared with those of the U.S.
So, you can BE a citizen but NOT be “natural born”…

And, you MUST BE a citizen AND be natural born to be President.

Lourdes on July 21, 2010 at 10:48 PM

Yes, and obama’s alleged father, Barack Sr., a native born Kenyan and subject of the British Crown at the time of Barack Jr’s. birth, was just a visitor to the USA, not even a permanent resident, let alone a naturalized citizen.

Natural born requires that a person be born on US soil, and at the time of birth, that one’s parents be US citizens, either by birth or naturalization.

And, obama is showing, imo, his conflicted allegiances over and over. Kind of like the paternal foundation on which he could build his America hating career.

With the British, he refuses their offer of keeping the bust of Churchill, and returns it in the rudest possible way. Then, he insults Queen and British PM with bizarre, thoughtless gifts, and refused to acknowledge that US and Britain have a “special relationship”, refusing to use that wording which is of particular importance in the relations between the two nations.

Then there is the little problem of berri, as a United States Senator, campaigning all over Kenya for his communist father’s relative, communist Raila Odinga.

Andrew McCarthy wrote a great article over at NRO online about how obama’s active campaigning against the sitting President of Kenya, who was supported by the Bush Administration and US State Dept. most likely violated several laws pertaining to U.S. government officials interfering in a sovereign nation’s electoral process.

berri raised something like one million dollars for Odinga, who also cut a deal with the muslim minority in Kenya, promising them if he won, he would install Sharia law in the 80% Christian country.

When Odinga lost, he incited his (and obama’s) fellow luo tribesman to murder and butcher thousands, until the re-elected President gave in and installed Odinga as a “Prime Minister”, to co-govern with the President.

This position can be found nowhere in the Kenyan Constitution. berri had to be loving the total destruction of their Constitution.

Recently, it was also revealed that there is a referendum scheduled for a vote which would change the pro-life Kenyan Constitution to open the door wide to abortion.

berri recently sent Kenya something like 23 million dollars, “under the table”, to directly fund groups that are pushing the pro-abortion vote for the referendum.

Again, this violates several U.S. statutes forbidding direct funding in these kinds of matters in another sovereign state.

obama is a criminal on so many levels, it’s dizzying.

So, it seems the Founders were exceedingly wise in making the provision for Presidential allegience through birth and lineage so stringent.

Look at how berri’s own Kenyan father and grandfather had so much trouble with the British. He recounts it in his book. Then, observe his relationship with Britain.

Look at berri’s obsession with much more than meddling in the affairs of Kenya, to the point of most likely breaking several federal laws to do it.

But, tut, tut, he’s teflon. By the time he’s finished, we may well be also, because no one who is Constitutionally duty bound to get him removed from office is willing to even whisper the word impeach. Can’t have that, first black president and all. Riots and all.

Lady Justice is blind, I guess, but not color blind.

tigerlily on July 22, 2010 at 1:02 AM

The one thing that bothers me about Jindal is the reason that he has stated for his conversion to Catholicism. It is because he saw that it had a strong central decider unlike other forms of Christianity.

Kermit on July 22, 2010 at 1:02 AM

I assume you are referring to the authority of the Pope, Kermit.

If I may say, many converts to Catholicism have said that the clear and decisive teachings on faith and morals, which are the only two areas in which the the Holy Father can and has spoken infallibly in the 2000 year history of the Church, have been vitally important to them in their journey to the Church.

As Catholics, we believe this is a love of certainty in matters one’s conscience and ultimately, one’s immortal soul. It is personal obedience as chosen in the very highest levels of personal freedom, freely chosen through the gift of faith; God himself working in the individual to bring about this mysterious union with the Church.

So, what I am trying to say is that the individual who chooses to give their assent in matters pertaining to faith and morals to the the head of their Church, in this case we are speaking of the Pope, gives their assent in complete freedom, directly opposite of the tyranny and enslavement of body and conscience (especially manifested in obamacare), that our current “president” is attempting to impose.

It is an assent to Truth, “transmitted” as it were, through the power and integrity of the Holy Spirit, again, only infallibly in matters of faith and morals, to the faithful through the successors of Peter.

To the believer, this is a profound source of comfort. Trying to figure out the great mystery of salvation coupled with the huge moral and ethical questions that must be tackled in every soul’s life would be exhausting, with so many conflicting beliefs and dogmas in so many Christian sects, many with no “teaching authority” save one’s own individual interpretation.

For 2000 years, the Church has not been perfect by any means, but no Pope, no matter how much a saint or sinner, has ever contradicted the teachings on faith or morals. They are unbroken.

So, please don’t think that the authority of the Catholic Church in any way can be translated by the believer into a love of political tyranny, statism or abusive centralization of power.

Jindal has a formidable intellect. He knows that the Church is in the world but not of the world.

P.S. to fellow posters: I don’t want this to become a thread hijack, nor to start another religious war here. Just wanted to perhaps put Kermit’s mind at ease. Hope it helped, but maybe I made things worse. Hope not.;)

tigerlily on July 22, 2010 at 1:32 AM

I think you are wrong there, tigerlily. US v Wong Kim Ark pretty much settled that question, deciding that a child born on American soil was a citizen from birth even if the parents were aliens.

Dusty on July 22, 2010 at 1:29 AM

Yes, Dusty, being born on US soil makes one a citizen.

But, as Lourdes explained very succintly further up the thread, the Founders required, for the Office of the Presidency only, that a person be not only a citizen, but a natural born citizen.
I admit that I’m too tired to get sources now, but British common law, which the Founders based the presidential Constitutional requirement upon, defined natural born as: born on U.S. soil, with parents who are, at the time of birth of the offspring born on U.S. soil, U.S. citizens themselves, either by birth, or by naturalization as per the laws of the United States as pertaining to naturalizing and conferring citizenship upon immigrants.

If you look at the history of every one of our presidents, with the exclusion of b. hussein, you will see that not only was every U.S. President born here, but that their parents, if immigrants, were citizens of the U.S. at the time of the Presidents’ births.

tigerlily on July 22, 2010 at 1:44 AM

I was born Jewish, baptized Protestant, and joined in full communion with the Church at this years Easter Vigil.
What drew me to the church was that it’s teaching is truer to Judaism. I feel a lot more at home as a Catholic than I did as a Protestant.
The lord even lead me to a Jewish-born patron saint…Edith Stein.
(Sorry-as a recent convert I just wanted to add to Tigerlily’s eloquent comment.)

annoyinglittletwerp on July 22, 2010 at 1:43 AM

Yes, there are so many really powerful and binding realities between Catholicism and Judaism, starting with the fact that our Lord was Jewish.

It’s funny you should mention the similarities; Catholicism really is the fulfillment of the Covenant. As a life-long Catholic, I feel so comfortable around Judaism; especially their liturgical life and traditions. John Paul II had it right when he referred to the Jews as “our elder brothers in the Faith.”

P.S. Edith Stein is such an incredible witness for the power of God in a soul as unselfish as was (and is) hers. She is just tremendous. St. Edith, pray for us.

tigerlily on July 22, 2010 at 1:52 AM

Hey, I just got back from editing the video I shot of Bobby Jindal’s speech at the massive rally in Lafayette, Louisiana, and posted it on YouTube in two parts.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5hyE3FUm6w

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czk8Lqs7yMN

He rocked the Cajundome with 11,000 angry and hollering Cajuns hollering at the Rally For Economic Survival, protesting what Jindal called the “arbitrary and capricious” offshore oil drilling moratorium that will soon be coming to a gas pump near you. I was 15 feet from Bobby and he told it like it is!

Got lots of great photos, as folks turned out with their families to protest the federal boot on the collective neck of our communities here in coastal Louisiana.

It’s one thing to think that the oil spill is over. It’s another to experience the faces of the families being condemned to joblessness by the, in Jindal’s and the federal judge’s words, “arbitrary and capricious” moratorium imposed by President Obama.

cane_loader on July 22, 2010 at 1:46 AM

God bless you!!!

Hope your footage goes viral!!! Haven’t watched yet, but maybe someone with know-how can edit, add music and make it blow sky-high in the viral universe. Just an idea, forgive if I’m too forward. Maybe it needs no Hollywood tweaking at all, but either way, please God it is seen by millions.

I also hope that HA will give you a front page thread of your own to inform the masses of what you have seen and heard first hand.

We are behind you all the way!

tigerlily on July 22, 2010 at 1:58 AM