Beeler: The party of No

posted at 10:12 am on July 20, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

The debate over extending jobless benefits at times sounds a lot like a married couple’s arguments as they talk past each other.  In truth, both Democrats and Republicans want to extend jobless benefits (regardless of whether it’s a good idea or not), although Democrats have mainly succeeded in spinning the debate for the media as heroic Democrats defending the jobless against the Republican meanies who want to cut off benefits.  The actual debate is over debt, and how much we want to keep creating while the Deficracken continues to roar.  Nate Beeler of the Washington Examiner uses this spin to pin the Party of No tail squarely on the donkey:

Actually, perhaps they should be the party of Pay-Go-No.  Ever since Democrats ostentatiously signed that measure into law, they have used every excuse in the book to avoid complying with it — in order to keep running up deficits and debt.

Be sure to check out Nate’s blog for more of his excellent work, featured at the indispensable Examiner.


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Dead on.

milwife88 on July 20, 2010 at 10:14 AM

LOVE THAT.

maverick muse on July 20, 2010 at 10:14 AM

Extending unemployment benefits is a bad idea, regardless of whether you “have the money to pay for it”.
And I say that as someone who is looking at unemployment in the next month or so.

Count to 10 on July 20, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Notice how the elephant looks white and the donkey looks…

mjbrooks3 on July 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM

while the Deficracken continues to roar

Awesome, Ed!

ladyingray on July 20, 2010 at 10:19 AM

Yet the GOP continue to accept the premise, the context, the way the story line is framed as they search for a suitable response.

Yet the democrats will instantly attack the premise of any question that traps the conversation in a context they can’t deal with, and immediately change the context to reflect their point of view.

Skandia Recluse on July 20, 2010 at 10:20 AM

Count to 10 on July 20, 2010 at 10:16 AM

So if extending unemployment is a bad thing, please explain how giving welfare recipients 100% of their “benefits” and allowing a cost of living increase is a good thing.

milwife88 on July 20, 2010 at 10:22 AM

PERFECT

cmsinaz on July 20, 2010 at 10:25 AM

Notice how the elephant looks white and the donkey looks…

mjbrooks3 on July 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM

stupid?

VibrioCocci on July 20, 2010 at 10:26 AM

The Democratic Party:

HIGHER TAXES
DEAD ECONOMY
FORFEIT NASA
NO MOON EXPLORATION (there’s a moon?)
NO BORDER SECURITY
NO PROSECUTION OF ISLAMIC AND MEXICAN CARTEL TERRORISTS
PROSECUTION OF LAW ABIDING US CITIZENS
FABRICATION OF EVIDENCE FOR POLITICAL SPITE

The Democrats must knife the Reagan legacy in Nancy’s back while she’s still here, while Republicans rally at his name. So “Just say no” to crime and perversion = party of no. No more federal corruption and dissolution of the Constitution sponsored by our own HIGHER taxes, particularly during a damned recession!

The Democrats are the party of no logic, and no criticism accepted, no self criticism deemed appropriate, the party of the politically correct asshats necessarily worn at all times to cover erupting corruption.

maverick muse on July 20, 2010 at 10:26 AM

Nailed it.

BKeyser on July 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM

How long can a person collect unemployment compensation?

Vince on July 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM

The Democrats are the party of no logic, and no criticism accepted, no self criticism deemed appropriate, the party of the politically correct @sshats necessarily worn at all times to cover erupting corruption.

maverick muse on July 20, 2010 at 10:29 AM

Sadly this mantra of the evil Republicans withholding unemployment monies to the people hurting is working. Just once I would like to hear the Republican leadership explain their position. We need a voice. Maybe they are trying but not hard enough. Go out on the Capital steps and hold a news conference. Do something..

sandee on July 20, 2010 at 10:29 AM

While this is funny, I really wish the Republicans would start asking the right questions. Stop trying to be DemLite Sen. Hatch, et. al. Stop the Dem talk right in its tracks by asking the right question. What makes you think extending Jobless Benefits will improve the economy and get people working? Because it won’t…it doesn’t. Extended jobless benefits is just another form of welfare. It’s encouraging people to sit home and not work…not everyone but enough that it’s detrimental to our long-term economic health.

MainelyRight on July 20, 2010 at 10:30 AM

The Democratic Party:

HIGHER TAXES
DEAD ECONOMY
FORFEIT NASA, NOT EVEN SOLD AT A PROFIT, STILL TAX SPONSORED
NO MOON EXPLORATION (there’s a moon?)
NO BORDER SECURITY
NO PROSECUTION OF ISLAMIC AND MEXICAN CARTEL TERRORISTS
NO EQUALITY OF CITIZENS UNDER THE LAW
PROSECUTE LAW ABIDING US CITIZENS ON FABRICATED EVIDENCE

maverick muse on July 20, 2010 at 10:32 AM

O, socialism! Thy black market booms!

Illegals working for cash. The unemployed working on the side for cash. Poor unemployed wretches on the WH lawn and no adult to ask “Where does all this lead?”

And the trillion dollar answer is: “The 300 stinkin’ jobs for that Korean company in Michigan! And more months in limbo for these folks!”

IlikedAUH2O on July 20, 2010 at 10:33 AM

By the way Obama doesn’t need the Republicans to pass this. He just wants cover. Yeah, a pathetic threat of a filibuster was made, but in the end we all knew that the Maine twins would come through for Obama.

sandee on July 20, 2010 at 10:33 AM

The Democrats must knife the Reagan legacy in Nancy’s back while she’s still around and while Republicans rally at his name. So “Just say no” to crime and perversion translates to “the party of no.” No more federal corruption and dissolution of the Constitution sponsored by our own HIGHER taxes, particularly during a damned recession!

maverick muse on July 20, 2010 at 10:34 AM

The next phase of unemployment benefits will to make them permanent. 99 weeks is so limiting. 990 weeks is so much more humane.

Dasher on July 20, 2010 at 10:37 AM

Yup. Another case where the repubs win the cartoons but lose the votes. This time in the millions. The repubs have absolutely no credibility when it comes to saving money. As I pointed out in a comment yesterday even the National Review is taking them to task for being phonies.

So real smart, stop unemployment benefits so millions more can’t make their rent or house payments. Yup, great repub thinking from the losers that built bridges to nowhere and ran up record breaking earmarks until they were swept from the leadership. They couldn’t even beat a community organizer last time around.

Steele, Boehner and McConnell the three stooges of today’s politics guaranteed to say and do the wrong thing at the right time as we get closer to the election.

Well we could always look at the bright side–three times is a charm. They lost in 06, 08 and 10 coming. Maybe then the Repub party will clean house and get some credibility.
Yeah, you are right, even then they won’t!

patrick neid on July 20, 2010 at 10:39 AM

How long can a person collect unemployment compensation?
Vince on July 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Depends how long Dems are in power or at least listened to – potentially forever

LincolntheHun on July 20, 2010 at 10:42 AM

6 years of deficit spending to finance 2 wars and all of Bush’s other expansionist programs and NOW you are concerned about the debt? And you want to continue Bush’s tax cuts for the rich?!?

Funny the timing of all of this concern about deficits…

Today’s “WORD OF THE DAY” is disingenuous. Or as Palin would probably tweet, disingenius.

cornfedbubba on July 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM

After a certain amount of unemployment collected, you are not getting back what you paid into the system, you are living on the indulgence of the taxpayers. When you hit that point, are the taxpayers paying for just a little more time for you to check your prospects in Texas, or are they paying for you to stay in your nice condo in Palo Alto in hopes of the Java programming job you lost somehow coming back from India? Are they bridging the gap while the temp agency struggles to find you a temp-to-perm gig, or are they paying for you to let your 401(k) fatten up a bit more before you tap it?

Sekhmet on July 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM

I think the most surreal thing is watching Obama blasting the Republicans yesterday for denying an extension of unemployment benefits surrounded by people out of work. Did it occur to them that they were standing next to the person responsible for their predicament? Obama lamenting that there were no jobs? I feel like we are in the Twilight Zone.

sandee on July 20, 2010 at 10:47 AM

The Party of NO-vember.

Emperor Norton on July 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM

Up yours, bubbatroll.

SurferDoc on July 20, 2010 at 10:54 AM

@mjbrooks3 10:18 a.m.

Notice how the elephant looks white and the donkey looks…

….like an ass

ziggyville on July 20, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Green shoots, Recovery Summer — if these are true as the administration contends, then shouldn’t the temporary extension of unemployment benefits be canceled? At least, that is an argument the GOP could be making. Second, by the classic definition the recession is over — that being defined as two consecutive quarters of growth in the GDP. This also argues for ending the extensions.

Instead, we have an argument about how to pay for it. The GOP continues with the weaksauce approach, which still gets them the blame and yet will ultimately do nothing to reduce the deficit.

GnuBreed on July 20, 2010 at 10:57 AM

99 weeks of unemployment benefits? You could go on unemployment and build a business from home subsidized by the government! It would have to be an all cash business I guess…. let’s see, what kind of business could I do from home that is all cash? Hmmmmm!

Vince on July 20, 2010 at 10:57 AM

The actual debate is over debt, and how much we want to keep creating while the Deficracken continues to roar.

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry!

itsnotaboutme on July 20, 2010 at 11:02 AM

6 years of deficit spending to finance 2 wars and all of Bush’s other expansionist programs and NOW you are concerned about the debt? And you want to continue Bush’s tax cuts for the rich?!?

Funny the timing of all of this concern about deficits…
cornfedbubba on July 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Yeah! about time huh bubba!? Better late than never! Like you.

Vince on July 20, 2010 at 11:02 AM

Better to be the party of no than the party of no clue.

RBMN on July 20, 2010 at 11:02 AM

This is a public relations disaster for the GOP.

The Donks have been on defense for months; this gives them some wind in their sails.

Good grief.

Sometimes you win by picking your battles.

This was one of those times.

Foolish.

Bruno Strozek on July 20, 2010 at 11:04 AM

The party of “Anything Goes” vs. the party of “No.”
.
Can Democrats benefit from psychological counseling or, like addicts without internalized coping skills, will they be a harm to themselves and us?

ExpressoBold on July 20, 2010 at 11:07 AM

I wonder what about we are broke, Democrats do not understand.

tarpon on July 20, 2010 at 11:14 AM

While we are bashing the GOP, it is the summer and most of the ‘hot air’ on this subject is lacking the audience it would receive in October. So by the time the vacationing people hear it (the ones who are paying taxes), it will resemble a deflated balloon.

Or so I hope. But it is a reasonable hope.

platypus on July 20, 2010 at 11:19 AM

Funny the timing of all of this concern about deficits…
cornfedbubba on July 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM

A fair point. But what’s funnier is how the Democrats wailed at Bush’s deficits and now that Obama and the Democrats have turned a deficit into generational theft, not a peep. In fact, they claim we have to incur these destructive record deficits to “fix” the economy. You know, the one that is getting worse and worse under Obama and the Democrats. Yeah, that one. Funny as hell.

Extrafishy on July 20, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Funny the timing of all of this concern about deficits…
cornfedbubba on July 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM

I find it anything BUT funny. All the same, better late than never.

Assuming it isn’t already too late…and they’ll actually change their ways if they get into power this time…

Okay. I admit it. We’re pretty much grasping at straws now. But what else can we do?

Dark-Star on July 20, 2010 at 11:25 AM

“So real smart, stop unemployment benefits so millions more can’t make their rent or house payments. Yup, great repub thinking from the losers that built bridges to nowhere and ran up record breaking earmarks until they were swept from the leadership. They couldn’t even beat a community organizer last time around.” patrick neid on July 20, 2010 at 10:39 AM

For some one that has most of the time made common sense statements, this time you really don’t get the message the Senate Republicans, (and most conservatives in congress) are attempting to convey to the voting public. PAY-GO IS A JOKE

Watch this morning as Republican Senators WILL vote for the extension of unemployment benifits while at the same time explain that they have learned from the past, that piling on unfunded national debt must come to an end. You are buying into the “Republican meanies who want to cut off benefits” meme that the Democrats and the media are using and it’s pure BS. The Democrats have tripled the debt in two short years–that’s a million bridges to knowwhere—and have done NOTHING to address this debt.

Rovin on July 20, 2010 at 11:31 AM

It’d be funny if it weren’t so darn tragically accurate and true.

Yakko77 on July 20, 2010 at 11:51 AM

correction: knowwhere = nowhere

Rovin on July 20, 2010 at 12:02 PM

correction: knowwhere = nowhere

Rovin on July 20, 2010 at 12:02 PM

I was just about to refudiate your grammar.

Shy Guy on July 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM

The Democrats have tripled the debt in two short years–that’s a million bridges to know where—and have done NOTHING to address this debt.

Rovin on July 20, 2010 at 11:31 AM

All so true but even truer is the fact that the repub leadership these last six years is incompetent. Penny wise and pound foolish. This is the same crew that started the financial bailout under Bush and allowed members of their own party to facilitate the passage of all of Obama’s trillions in spending. The Collins, Snowe’s and Brown’s along with a few others have undermined the party and the message with no retribution. This the same leadership that supported Crist vs Rubio.

Look at their earmarks. The current repub party is not credible when it comes to spending restraint. Even the National Review in an editorial says they are not to be trusted. Instead of jumping ugly about unemployment benefits they should have thrown Snowe and Collins out of the party when they passed all of Obama’s trillions in spending. Instead they grandstand for 20 billion when they know it was all a charade.

Trust me when I tell you this, Independents will find pulling the lever for Repubs in November very loathsome indeed. The only chance we fiscal conservatives/small government folks have is that Dems are worse. Boy, there’s a campaign message. “Vote for me, I suck less”!

patrick neid on July 20, 2010 at 12:42 PM

patrick neid on July 20, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Very well said Patrick. A brickhard pledge is in order for every candidate on fiscal policy. Break that pledge, and feel the full weight of the party including those in office.

Rovin on July 20, 2010 at 5:29 PM

6 years of deficit spending to finance 2 wars and all of Bush’s other expansionist programs and NOW you are concerned about the debt? And you want to continue Bush’s tax cuts for the rich?!?
cornfedbubba on July 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM

6 years of deficit spending?

Actually it was 8 years of deficit spending with more than 70% of the total deficit spending occurring in the last 2 years 2006- 2008
50% or $750 billion in Sep 2008.

Finance 2 wars, that would be the 2 wars Dems voted on? And agreed to finance?

You forgot the 2 Bush tax cuts the Dems overwhelmingly supported. BTW are you aware that both wars and both tax cuts occurred when the Dems controlled the Senate? Naw, didn’t think so.

Are you aware that Dems/Pelosi claim jobless benefits are a “stimulus” to the economy?

Are you aware of Obama’s “paygo” policy? Can’t spend any “new” money without cuts in “old” money. Under “paygo” congress would have to find an equal amount of cuts to make this extension “deficit neutral”?
No? didn’t think so.

Are you aware that there is $400 +Billion of unspent “stimulus” money? And as Pelosi says jobless benefits are a “stimulus” to the economy, and because that money is already in the budget for “stimulus” its not subject to “paygo”?

So what’s the problem with using “stimulus” money to finance a “stimulus” program?

That makes it “deficit neutral” and because its money we already have its not subject to “paygo”!

If this isn’t the definition of a “no brainer” what is?

DSchoen on July 20, 2010 at 8:59 PM

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Stop bringing reality into this stuff.

IlikedAUH2O on July 21, 2010 at 7:38 AM

Does it matter any more. When you have fools like Lindsay Graham voting for people like Kagan, when seemingly every Republican caves on every issue – does it really matter. The only way we can possibly save this country for our offspring is to vote every one of the fools out of office, regardless of party. A single vote for any program that any of the current leadership proposes is enough to warrant a vote to dispose. That is the only thing these fools (and I include both of my republican senators in that group) will understand.

georgeofthedesert on July 21, 2010 at 9:18 AM