Federal court says Stolen Valor Act violates First Amendment
posted at 7:47 pm on July 16, 2010 by Allahpundit
Via Gabe Malor, does freedom of speech include the freedom to lie?
Rick Glen Strandlof claimed he was an ex-Marine who was wounded in Iraq and received the Purple Heart and Silver Star, but the military had no record he ever served. He was charged with violating the Stolen Valor Act, which makes it a crime punishable by up to a year in jail to falsely claim to have won a military medal.
U.S. District Judge Robert Blackburn dismissed the case and said the law is unconstitutional, ruling the government did not show it has a compelling reason to restrict that type of statement…
Denver attorney Christopher P. Beall, who filed a friend-of-the-court brief for the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado, said the Stolen Valor Act is fatally flawed because it doesn’t require prosecutors to show anyone was harmed or defamed by the lie.
“The government position was that any speech that’s false is not protected by the First Amendment. That proposition is very dangerous,” Beall said.
“It puts the government in a much more powerful position to prosecute people for speaking out on things they believe to be true but turn out not to be true,” he said.
Indeed, but of course Strandlof didn’t believe his service to be true. That’s a key distinction, and that’s one of the reasons Eugene Volokh thinks we should make a First Amendment exception for this particular type of lie. (You can read his 15-page amicus brief here.) We make an exception for fraud and, in certain cases, defamation because they involve knowing falsehoods. No one wants people afraid to speak for fear of being prosecuted in case they happen to have their facts wrong, but stolen-valor degenerates realize full well what they’re doing. Nothing innocent or mistaken about it.
The other key element is whether there’s “fraud” in any meaningful sense if no one suffers concrete/financial harm from it. Read the court’s opinion — like Volokh’s brief, it’s nice and concise at 14 pages — for more on that. You can argue, of course, that there is concrete psychological harm done to vets who earned their medals honorably by letting liars walk around with phony brass pinned to their chests. But if you go that route, then you have to start explaining whether it should also be illegal for, say, a guy to tell women at a bar that he’s an investment banker in order to make them think he’s rich. That is to say, we don’t really care about people lying about their credentials in the abstract; we care about them lying about military credentials specifically because most of us have tremendous respect for the unique sacrifices that vets make. But judges don’t like carving out constitutional exceptions for specific classes of people, whether based on respect or otherwise. Once you go that route, then suddenly you’re back to arguing whether flag-burning should be a special exception to the First Amendment because of the unique respect we have for the stars and stripes, etc. Volokh’s line of attack is the more clever one legally: No unique carve-outs for military decorations but rather a more broad-based argument that most knowing falsehoods in any context should receive lesser constitutional protection, especially (if not necessarily) when they cause concrete harm. Like I say, read — or skim — his brief. Good stuff.
Update: My mistake. It was DrewM who posted this at Ace’s site, not Gabe Malor.









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upinak on July 16, 2010 at 7:50 PM
only if your democrat
rob verdi on July 16, 2010 at 7:50 PM
Well then it should be perfectly legal to beat the crap outta these phoney phuqs!
Tony737 on July 16, 2010 at 7:53 PM
The ACLU has to be taken down.. This BS cannot continue!
Dire Straits on July 16, 2010 at 7:53 PM
So I can’t be prosecuted for claiming to be a doctor if I’m not?
amerpundit on July 16, 2010 at 7:54 PM
You are just exercising your 1st ammendment rights by telling them how it felt… with your hands.
upinak on July 16, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Outrageous.
hawkdriver on July 16, 2010 at 7:56 PM
I mean, if I can’t be prosecuted for falsely claiming to have qualified for and having been awarded a military distinction, how can I be prosecuted for claiming to have qualified for and having been awarded a medical degree?
Don’t infringe on my free speech, yo.
amerpundit on July 16, 2010 at 7:56 PM
Only if you say you were at a V.A. Hospital for an old war wound.
upinak on July 16, 2010 at 7:57 PM
What if the guy tells the woman that he is a police officer…
… but isn’t, but he believes that he is, and also believes that she should come with him right now?
Seven Percent Solution on July 16, 2010 at 7:57 PM
Golly,you are good. I was just thinking that the guy in Connecticut must be thrilled.
Cindy Munford on July 16, 2010 at 7:57 PM
I wonder if the judge would object to anyone making a false claim in his court room…?
Seven Percent Solution on July 16, 2010 at 7:59 PM
I can’t claim to be a police officer if I’m not. That would get me in serious crap.
I can’t claim to be a lawyer if I’m not. That would get me in serious crap.
I can’t claim to be a doctor if I’m not. That would get me in serious crap.
I can’t claim to be certified in a medical specialty if I’m not. That would get me in serious crap.
But I can claim to have valiantly fought for my country in a way that earned me a medal. That’s fine, because stopping people from falsely claiming a status would be a horrible precedent to set.
amerpundit on July 16, 2010 at 8:01 PM
1: It was a knowing falsehood. First amendment does not protect deliberate lies.
2: Obviously the government thinks the information presented by a medal is important, or else it wouldn’t issue medals. If some one claimed that their restaurant had passed a board of health inspection but hadn’t, would we require that people get sick before punishing them? No. It would be fraud because the lying restaurant was using the trust given the government to deceive others into trusting it. Deception is intrinsically harmful because it damages trust in all other claims- even true ones.
Sackett on July 16, 2010 at 8:02 PM
You can trust me, I’m a police officer, fireman, priest, doctor, congressman and senator.
smfoushee on July 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM
This is absolute and complete BULLSH!T!!!!
…To lie about enduring the same sacrifices and committing the same acts of bravery of the American Soldier so that one can falsely prop themselves up is disgusting and unforgivable.
…If they can work around the first Amendment with “Hate speech” legislation…. They can certainly honor the American Soldier by punishing the vermin that so arrogantly disrespect their service.
Baxter Greene on July 16, 2010 at 8:04 PM
….with many of the people making these false claims being anti-war activists….. your point of it being harmful rings loud and clear.
Baxter Greene on July 16, 2010 at 8:07 PM
You forgot the bigger prize…
… he used the claim to raise money. Now if there were only a law that made it illegal to behave in a fraudulent manner.
Oh, wait!
Seven Percent Solution on July 16, 2010 at 8:07 PM
I can’t believe people claiming to be on the side of the US Constitution believe it’s okay to treat different types of liars differently.
Fraud is fraud, there doesn’t need to be a special law in place for one specific type of fraud.
We talk of limited government among conservative circles, but then believe an overlap of this kind for nothing more than mere political reasons is okay?
I definitely agree with the judge.
ButterflyDragon on July 16, 2010 at 8:08 PM
Like I said in the last thread, bizarro world and perpetual dizziness for me. Anyone claiming false service and false honors deserves criminal charges,
bluemarlin on July 16, 2010 at 8:11 PM
It dishonors the soldiers that earned the medal. And by extension it hurts the country by showing a lack of respect to heroism and valor.
It’s against the law to claim to be a lawyer, doctor, police officer, government official, and many other types of fraudulent claims but some how it isn’t illegal to claim you’re a decorated veteran when you’re not?
I think a year in jail is far too stiff for the claim. The judge had something of a point in that the damages are actually minor.
However, a week in jail would probably be fitting in this case and fully sufficient to deter this sort of behavior from politicians. A week in jail doesn’t sound like long but it’s a massive loss of face and that’s not something they’d be able to recover from internally. They might even get their voters to stop caring but within the beltway he would always be that guy that was so stupid he had to be sent to jail to set him straight.
Anyway, it is a legitimately complex issue. You don’t want some kind of blanket judgment that “lies” are not protected speech because often what is and isn’t a lie can be subjective. Consider the global warming debate or the creationism debate.
Scientifically, they might be able to claim officially that certain things are X or Y and thus shut up anyone that disagrees because a panel of scientists say so.
How far do you want to take this? I personally think creationism is nonsense and fine the movement embarressing but the anti global warming movement is credible to me and it would be a disservice if it were made illegal. That might be possible if we shut things down on the basis of official falsehood.
Anyway, this is a much clearer cut case. I think a better way to go is to push for a new law that avoids this counter with a lighter punishment. A year in jail for lying about medals is silly. Now, if you put a special provision that it was a year if an elected federal official did it… that would be ok. But can you imagine some stupid neighbor going to jail for a year because he makes stupid lies over the barbecue? A week at most and I think that’s still on the harsh side of things. If they’re congressmen though… by all means, throw them in for a year but even a week would ruin them.
Karmashock on July 16, 2010 at 8:12 PM
defrauding anyone using a Medal awarded by the U.S. Government wouldn’t the U.S. Government want to protect itself from abetting a crime? Isn’t there laws on the books for this kind of stance the judge took? Aiding and Abetting a criminal in a criminal act “fraud” colluding to defraud people by this guy being allowed to misrepresent himself – by using a Medal issued by the U.S. Government?
Who does he harm – everyone that believes him and might donate to him out of the belief he is a war hero…for starters.
This judge isn’t looking at this from any other perspective but how he could get a con artist off? I don’t believe that’s the role of a judge.
Dr Evil on July 16, 2010 at 8:12 PM
That Judge is a major league______
The rest of this post has been deleted by poster, to save his posting privileges.
listens2glenn on July 16, 2010 at 8:13 PM
The ACLU has tried as of late to appear as though there are cases on both sides of the political spectrum that they’ve taken on; like they’re completely thought independent and only interested in pure civil liberties.
But why would they even take this case? Why would any person want to defend an admitted liar? Why would anyone want to defend a thief who’s stolen something so dear to those who have put themselves in harm’s way to receive it themselves? It’s because the victims in any of these cases are the men and women of the Armed Forces who are dishonored by the act. The ACLU and Left in general never miss a chance to surreptitiously or overtly let us know how they feel about us. This is just another way for them to say, “We don’t have respect for what you do and what makes you think you’re any better than anyone else.” As if we did.
hawkdriver on July 16, 2010 at 8:13 PM
I’ve always been kind of bothered by the Stolen Valor Act.
If the claim causes harm to others… for example, they give the scumbag making the claim money because of his false pretenses, or the scumbag gets a job ahead of others (which he would not have otherwise gotten), then those acts should be treated as fraud (or whatever the appropriate charge is, I’m not a lawyer and I don’t feel like looking it up).
If it doesn’t cause harm, then I don’t think the law should interfere. Of course, the scumbag’s name and lies should be broadcast for all to know.
malclave on July 16, 2010 at 8:14 PM
Nice points.
I guess now we know you can say you are any of these professions as long as no one is hurt. Remember the key is that damages must be proven.
Print this out just in case you need to show it to a judge./
CWforFreedom on July 16, 2010 at 8:14 PM
Nonsense.
Although politicians seem to have a right to lie like rugs
clnurnberg on July 16, 2010 at 8:15 PM
I think the Judge is right. Rick Strandlof may be a lying sack of shi*t but I feel the Constitution gives you the right to be a lying sack of sh*t. Fraud on the other hand.
lowandslow on July 16, 2010 at 8:16 PM
Does this mean we can yell “Fire!!!” in a crowded theater when there isn’t one?
Really Right on July 16, 2010 at 8:17 PM
I’d rather the scumbag be required to wear a sandwich board in a heavily-trafficked area of the community advertising what he did. A month should do the trick.
malclave on July 16, 2010 at 8:18 PM
Dr. Evil, he’s looking at getting his fellow leftists off the hook. This guy may not be one of them, but it gives him the excuse he needs.
Hard Right on July 16, 2010 at 8:18 PM
If I say I am a cop in order to subdue a criminal(without infringing on his civil rights) because no cop is around would I be charged with impersonating a cop?
CWforFreedom on July 16, 2010 at 8:18 PM
As a disabled VET, I would love to have a chat with not only
with Rick Glenn but also the Judge about this. You talk about making my blood boil…I better leave it at that before I get into trouble.
Teleycoman on July 16, 2010 at 8:19 PM
I guess as long as there are no damages.
CWforFreedom on July 16, 2010 at 8:19 PM
That doesn’t wash, I can claim to be all those things if all I’m doing is trying to impress somebody, it ain’t against the law.
lowandslow on July 16, 2010 at 8:21 PM
Did you know that it used to be a CAPITAL offense (yes, as in you’d be hanged) in England to impersonate an Army officer? Granted, this was over 100 years ago, but still…
goddessoftheclassroom on July 16, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Be this as it may, pity the fool exposed as a false veteran by someone real.
KillerKane on July 16, 2010 at 8:24 PM
i’m siding with the court on this one. It is not a crime to lie. It is only a crime if that lie has consequences. Fraud, perjury etc.
Lying is a needed thing in a society.
Now I have no problem if a bunch of ex-marines pay the little creep a late night visit.
unseen on July 16, 2010 at 8:25 PM
That’s fine. But if a guy falsely claims to be a veteran and recipient of valorous awards, and then gets the sh!t stomped out of him by a guy like me, I should be able to at least claim some kind of post-traumatic stress caused it. I figure that’s a fair trade.
Sgt Steve on July 16, 2010 at 8:26 PM
Uh, excuse me? Haven’t they been doing that on gender and raced based issues for quite some time?
AUINSC on July 16, 2010 at 8:28 PM
I agree Sgt Steve!!!
Teleycoman on July 16, 2010 at 8:29 PM
Two questions :
1. When they ask you in a courtroom to
” tell the truth , whole truth and nothing but the truth ” …it means nothing anymore right ?
2. There won’t be anymore “expert testimony” needed by any “expert” in any courtroom, right ?
If I want an expert in ballistics for a murder case, I can just bring in the neighborhood bum because he thinks he works for FBI, right ?
macncheez on July 16, 2010 at 8:31 PM
I’m really curious how many people incensed by this judge’s decision are supporters of hate crime legislation? I’m betting not many.
ButterflyDragon on July 16, 2010 at 8:34 PM
Barack claims to be an American but I can’t believe him.
thomasaur on July 16, 2010 at 8:34 PM
cindy,
it was my first thought as well with thefirst line of the post: “freedom of speech and the freedom to line”
rob verdi on July 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM
I think that he should be sent to the front lines, so to speak, to experience fear and the solution to fear, first hand. This should shut this a**hole up. We do have the Uniform Code Of Military Justice.
mixplix on July 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM
I figure that’s a fair trade.
Sgt Steve on July 16, 2010 at 8:26 PM
I doubt a jury of your peers would disagree.
unseen on July 16, 2010 at 8:38 PM
ButterflyDragon on July 16, 2010 at 8:34 PM
im also against hate crimes. I try to remain straight on my dislikes. anything that attempts to regulate speech I’m against. I believe in the market place of free speech.
unseen on July 16, 2010 at 8:40 PM
The simple answer is the court ruled the first amendment doesn’t choose sides to a lie. If we were to allow that, law to decide truth, where would we end up.
One of the responsibilities, probably long forgotten, is the citizen has to know and decide who is lying. We have become to lax in being told the truth, instead of figuring it out for ourselves.
tarpon on July 16, 2010 at 8:41 PM
I know this is a stretch, but will we get around this by claiming false valour awards is a form of date rape? Stay with me here. Hypothetical woman has pathological weakness for man in uniform (admit it ladies, that’s pretty much all of you.) Man claims to be war hero. Woman finds Purple Heart and Silver Star an intoxicating aphrodisiac…you get the idea.
Point is, if a woman goes home with a man predominately on false pretenses, how far is that from just cutting out the lying and putting a roofie in her drink?
Sgt Steve on July 16, 2010 at 8:41 PM
Why in hell is he not in jail for a year?
mixplix on July 16, 2010 at 8:45 PM
I wonder how the Judge would feel if I walked into his courtroom dressed as a judge…..?
“Just expressing myself sir and you are out of order”
NeoKong on July 16, 2010 at 8:46 PM
I agree with the judge on this one. AP fails to realize that fraud and defamation do cause harm to others just by being fraud and defamation. The law really does need to stipulate whether or not someone tried to cause harm by lying about their military service (or lack thereof). Did Mr. Standlof try to defraud anyone with these lies? If not, there is no case of any sort.
Making an exception just because most of us have a great deal of respect for our military and Mr. Standlof being a giant a$$hole is ludicrous on its face. Such an exception would throw the doors wide open for the government to declare many different kinds of statements and comments criminal.
NotCoach on July 16, 2010 at 9:15 PM
This is public service of the highest order. The lie is easily proven. If it takes a law, pass it. Fakers claiming they risked death under fire should be shot by firing squad.
rcl on July 16, 2010 at 9:16 PM
How can defaming all honorable medal winners NOT be HARM?
Lies to de
profitsbeard on July 16, 2010 at 9:22 PM
Lies that deceive for gain are fraud.
profitsbeard on July 16, 2010 at 9:22 PM
Cool, now I can be a cop without all that silly training.
faol on July 16, 2010 at 9:32 PM
That will get scruitiny on appeal. One could use all these arguments to say defamation law violates free speech. Certainly the efficiency and morale of the United States Military are compelling interests so as to prohibit knowingly made false statements with regard to the acts of another (the military) which potentially constitute forgery. (forgery doesn’t have to be in writing in many states, such as mine)
tommyboy on July 16, 2010 at 9:36 PM
It seems that most of you are being obtuse. Not just you faol, but others as well. Impersonating a police officer will quickly get you a felony conviction in just about any state with no sympathy from a judge. Pretending to be a cop to impress a chick is free speech even if it is disgusting.
Go and read DrewM. on this over at Ace. He has a good take on it. Read all the way to the end.
NotCoach on July 16, 2010 at 9:40 PM
You sure?
CWforFreedom on July 16, 2010 at 9:45 PM
This raises the old question of whether all immoral or dishonorable behavior should be illegal. Is prosecuting this king of behavior how I’d like the government to spend its resources? Not so much.
jazz_piano on July 16, 2010 at 9:48 PM
This.
Stolen Valor is an act of identity theft, not free speech.
liquidflorian on July 16, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Hello. My name is Harry Reid, male prostitute.
29Victor on July 16, 2010 at 9:53 PM
If you’ll all excuse me, I’m off to the local VA hospital to go get some check-ups taken care of. This ol’ Lt. needs some attention.
My ‘Nam wounds are acting up lately………….
(/born in 1983)
Techie on July 16, 2010 at 10:00 PM
That would be an absolutely hideous precedent and even a blind man should be able to see that.
Tav on July 16, 2010 at 10:20 PM
What about a “degenerate” who says he saved someone from a burning building or saved someone from drowning, when he did not? Would he be prosecuted? What about someone who said he was a member of MENSA or such, when he is not? Would he be prosecuted?
I think the best remedy here is exposure, not tailored laws.
Tav on July 16, 2010 at 10:25 PM
Think I’ll go around telling everyone I’m the President of the US.
Want to bet that the genius who came up with this ruling never spent one day in the military.
GarandFan on July 16, 2010 at 10:29 PM
Some things are just too obvious for college guys.
LarryG on July 16, 2010 at 10:33 PM
John Kerry argued, essentially anyway, that those who join the military are intelligence impaired. Do we want to argue that they are psychologically impaired too?
So all animals are equal, but some are more equal, and much more so, than others? And we are going to do it by species of animal rather than individual animals to boot?
Cleaver all right. Like see-right-through-him Slick Willy was cleaver. This whole matter is best left out of the legal system as the “cure” is likely to be worse, perhaps far worse, than the illness.
Tav on July 16, 2010 at 10:38 PM
Over the years, I’ve met a lot of guys who said that they were also in Special Forces. Goodness, wannabes abound! But they weren’t there when my friends were suffering from wounds and in trouble.
I’ve lost over forty friends/acquaintances who died in Vietnam. I guess that the judge hasn’t had the same experiences that I’ve had, so I guess that he doesn’t understand the valor and sacrifice. So be it.
But, some of my other friends/acquaintances have won Medals of Honor and lesser decorations. But, the judge doesn’t care.
Well, judge I don’t care about you. You’re just a stupid enabler. You’d bitch in a moment if someone passed him/herself off as a lawyer but could care less for the warriors that protect your sorry ass.
Special Forces Grunt on July 16, 2010 at 10:43 PM
Exactly.
NotCoach on July 16, 2010 at 10:48 PM
It would depend on whether you acted out on your hypothetical fantasies as in trying to perform the duties of such.
Tav on July 16, 2010 at 10:48 PM
Maybe we should have a law prohibiting criticism of Islam as Muslims are more hurt by criticism of their religion than are others. They are also more likely to hurt someone else if their religion is criticized. This whole Stolen Valor Act is a “cure” more dangerous than the illness it would treat.
Tav on July 16, 2010 at 10:53 PM
Agreed. No need to create more gov’t where not necessary.
Gilda on July 16, 2010 at 10:55 PM
Is that a quiz question? Pick out the two that don’t fit with the others. Too easy!
Tav on July 16, 2010 at 11:01 PM
The guy merely awarded himself the medals prematurely. Now he will go join the Marines to actually earn them. Not that he would pass muster with that tough group of men. They could put him on individual IED duty. He takes point. I have a feeling he will actually earn some of those medals the hard way they are earned.
Sherman1864 on July 16, 2010 at 11:07 PM
There is a certain irony to it all, especially given the following -
“I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.” (DA Form 71)”
Tav on July 16, 2010 at 11:08 PM
Hmmm… I think I’m with the judge on this one.
Lying about receiving military honors is despicable and the perpetrators should be beaten. But you shouldn’t need a court for that. Some thing just resolve themselves…
But on the flip side, you’re opening the door for government to have the right to criminalize bragging and hyperbole. If a guy claims he won a purple heart and never served that’s easy… but what happens if it’s a Senator who claimed he earned a Silver Star but it was really his troop that did it as a group, not him personally.
And then you extend that to other things… Should somebody be able to claim a sports record they never earned or face jail time? Fish tales?
Next thing y’know, you’ve got an Obama pushing a First Amendment Reform act to protect Americans from corporate speech followed closely by the McCain/Reid Truth in Politics act that restricts all political speech by unelected officials to whatever political topics are approved by the congress this year.
If the guy’s lying, we prove it and get the truth out and tar and feather the guy. Government’s too out of control as it is and when legitimate laws get broken ]cough[black panther voting intimidation]cough[ politicians have now shown they will politically choose which laws to enforce ]cough[illegal immigration]cough[
Works the same way with gun laws.
Skywise on July 16, 2010 at 11:28 PM
My understanding is that the First Amendment was intended to protect political expression; a fundamental freedom needed for defending liberty. It seems to me that to claim that the First Amendment protects your right to lie about your service record in the pursuit of political office would be the opposite of any intent the founders would have had for the First Amendment.
rbk2000 on July 16, 2010 at 11:44 PM
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Some exceptions have been made to this, but the exceptions should be kept to an absolute minimum consisting of only those things for which there is a very clear and compelling argument. The argument for “Stolen Valor”, although not without merit, does not meet this test.
Tav on July 17, 2010 at 12:02 AM
What a stupid ruling. Maybe people should start impersonating federal judges…it’s doubtful they could do any worse.
stuartm650 on July 17, 2010 at 12:16 AM
This is Total Bullsh!t.
To assume an award (and the honor that resides with it) without proper merit is not even remotely ‘free-speech’.
Deceit is not a right.
Any judge who thinks over-wise is unfit to sit in judgment of others.
CPT. Charles on July 17, 2010 at 12:29 AM
Since when is fraud a Constitutionally-protected right? Oh, yeah, since November, 2008.
Just email the Hawaii state department of records and they’ll happily send you a brand-spanking new Medal of Honor Citation from when you single-handedly took out that Kraut machine gun nest back in 1918.
Dr. ZhivBlago on July 17, 2010 at 12:29 AM
This is nonsense – we have laws against fraud and libel for a reason.
ebrawer on July 17, 2010 at 12:29 AM
Which means a new law is not called for.
Tav on July 17, 2010 at 12:59 AM
With the left more and more pushing the silencing of opposing or inconvenient voices, I am becoming even more convinced of the need for a presumption toward almost any faintly reasonable decrease in bars to free expression. I will even go along with the ACLU if I think the result will be some spill over that increases our rights to question and criticize our government. I know this instance leaves a bad very bad taste in the mouth but sometimes that is one of the prices that must be paid for freedom and self-government.
snaggletoothie on July 17, 2010 at 1:58 AM
I hereby declare that clubbing hippies in phony military garb is my way of expressing myself, and any attempt to bar me from doing so violates my right to freedom of speech and expression, especially when I club them using my taxpayer funded VA approved prosthetic arm I earned in Iraq from an Iranian IED.
Logboy on July 17, 2010 at 2:38 AM
INSANE.
griv on July 17, 2010 at 3:07 AM
We prosecute those who falsely claim to be doctors.
What if a man presented himself as a priest in order to get another to reveal private information? Or said he was a lawyer?
jeanneb on July 17, 2010 at 3:15 AM
But you can still go to jail for lying to the FBI. Go figure.
Ricohoc on July 17, 2010 at 3:43 AM
If it doesn’t, the Democrat party is in a whole heap of trouble.
American Elephant on July 17, 2010 at 5:48 AM
The question is not whether freedom of speech includes the freedom to lie but whether we want to extend government power too far into deciding what is or is not a lie. Do you want to jail climate change deniers? Al probably does.
snaggletoothie on July 17, 2010 at 7:08 AM
I agree “Fraud Is A Crime” is perpetrating a crime covered under Free Speech?
There isn’t a need to over think this issue – no need to apply pretzel logic, like the Judge applied in order to find a way to get this guy off the hook.
I think the real issue is “The Judge” doesn’t he have to follow the Rule of Law? Or does he get to make Law up out of whole cloth?
This can’t go unchallenged.
Dr Evil on July 17, 2010 at 8:17 AM
It didn’t make sense to drop the case against the Black Panthers with video evidence either but they did.
mixplix on July 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM
Candidate May Have Lied About Heroic Death In Vietnam
year_of_the_dingo on July 17, 2010 at 9:33 AM
Simple Solution.
We shouldn’t charge him with a crime for lying about service.
We also shouldn’t charge any veteran with a crime for smacking his lying arse around a bit either.
bds1976 on July 17, 2010 at 9:34 AM
Some restaurants and other businesses give freebies or discounts to soldiers. If this guy ever took advantage of these offers, that’s fraud and there is damage involved. If you claim to be a pilot but don’t fly, no harm done. If you fly without a license, they can get you for that. Just reword the law.
Kissmygrits on July 17, 2010 at 9:43 AM
As a 25 year vet I am extremely disgusted that Political Correctness and those of the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado give stealing Valor as a little untruth.
The next thing I would expect to be seen is President Obmma presenting the ‘Medal of Honor’ to a worker for the ACLU that identified a new PC term, or to an EPA employee who levied the largest fine for littering. When caught, Oh it was a mistake so no big dear.
The left must be stopped before they sell U.S. to the lowest bidder or to a friend under a no bid contract.
MSGTAS on July 17, 2010 at 10:24 AM
“Rick Glen Strandlof claimed he was an ex-Marine“??
I thought that distinction only went to John Murtha
UncleOlaf on July 17, 2010 at 12:11 PM
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