WSJ: The only people who believe that Porkulus saved 3 million jobs are …
posted at 3:35 pm on July 15, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
The White House is doubling down on the failure of its Porkulus spending to create or even save jobs in the American economy by claiming that their efforts saved or created 3.6 million jobs in the last year. That’s quite a claim, considering that overall employment fell by over 2.3 million since the passage of Porkulus in February 2009, and the Wall Street Journal isn’t buying it. Instead, the WSJ reminds readers of the promises that led to the spending of almost a trillion dollars that America didn’t have, and how far short the results have fallen:
Christina Romer went so far as to claim that the 3.5 million new jobs that she promised while the stimulus was being debated in Congress will arrive “two quarters earlier than anticipated.” Yup, the official White House line is that the plan is working better than even they had hoped.
We almost feel sorry for Ms. Romer having to make this argument given that since February 2009 the U.S. economy has lost a net 2.35 million jobs. Using the White House “created or saved” measure means that even if there were only three million Americans left with jobs today, the White House could claim that every one was saved by the stimulus.
The White House also naturally insists that things would be much worse without the stimulus billions spent on the likes of Medicaid payments, high speed rail projects, unemployment benefits and windmills. Mr. Obama said recently in Racine, Wisconsin that the economy “would have been a lot worse” and the unemployment rate would have gone to “12 or 13, or 15 [percent]” if government hadn’t spent all of that money.
This is called a counterfactual: a what would have happened scenario that can’t be refuted. What we do know is what White House economists at the time said would happen if the stimulus didn’t pass. They said the unemployment rate would peak at 9% without the stimulus (there’s your counterfactual) and that with the stimulus the rate would stay at 8% or below. (See the nearby chart.) In other words, today there are 700,000 fewer jobs than Ms. Romer predicted we would have if we had done nothing at all. If this is a job creation success, what does failure look like?
All of these White House jobs estimates are based on the increasingly discredited Keynesian spending “multiplier,” which according to White House economist Larry Summers means that every $1 of government spending will yield roughly $1.50 in higher GDP. Ms. Romer thus plugs her spending data into the Keynesian computer models and, presto, out come 2.5 million to 3.6 million jobs, even if the real economy has lost jobs. To adapt Groucho Marx: Who are you going to believe, the White House computer models, or your own eyes?
Actually, the data supports the argument made at the time Congress passed Porkulus and Barack Obama signed it. The massive and sudden increase in debt incurred for the program created a rational conclusion that national debt service costs would grow sharply. With the Democratic agenda of higher regulation proceeding apace in 2009, businesses pulled back and sheltered capital, which is why the only jobs actually saved were in state bureaucracies from the bailouts sent to cover their budget gaps … for one year only. Those jobs will shortly go on the chopping block now that Congress has gotten gun shy about engaging in another year of subsidizing state bureaucracies.
Mike Pence blasted this new message in a floor speech today in the House:
In the worst economy in a quarter of a century, American families are hurting, businesses are struggling in the city and on the farm. And that’s obvious to almost everyone in this country except the Obama Administration.
Remarkably, yesterday, the White House issued a report saying that the stimulus bill that passed a year and a half ago, had ‘saved or created 2.5 to 3.6 million jobs.’ As my three teenagers might say to me in like circumstances, ‘Really?’ Two point five to 3.6 million jobs? Unemployment was 7.5 percent when the stimulus was passed, it’s 9.5 percent today.
It’s important the American people know that the report, issued by the administration yesterday, isn’t even based on actual numbers. It comes from what economists say is a highly-inflated projection of how much economic growth is created for every government dollar that’s spent. The facts come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. They speak for themselves.
Since the stimulus was enacted, more than 3 million jobs have been lost in this country. A net job loss of 2.4 million jobs. Enough with the talk. The stimulus bill has failed. It’s time for new ideas. Across the board tax relief and fiscal discipline now.
And let’s recall yet again the actual employment data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics that exposes the White House argument as sheer fraud., with the red star designating the passage of Porkulus:
That’s a chart only Captain Kickass and Sergeant Smartass could spin into victory.
Update: Matt Welch puts it succinctly: “I don’t know about you, but government propaganda really irritates the hell out of me.” Kind of like Porkulus road signs, only more transparently false, I’d say.
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Whistle-blowers, beware. Big brother is watching you.
The Rogue Tomato on May 21, 2013 at 7:23 PM
And yet a troop of them can still be seen marching into the West Wing today in order to receive their marching orders. Pathetic.
WitchDoctor on May 21, 2013 at 7:24 PM
drip, drip, drip.
myiq2xu on May 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM
“These DOJ folks were Bush appointees, so it’s not Obama’s fault.”
-Libs
portlandon on May 21, 2013 at 7:26 PM
Um, this scandal gets bigger by the hour.
Everyone is reporting on this now.
And the IRS
And Benghazi
dogsoldier on May 21, 2013 at 7:26 PM
http://twitchy.com/2013/05/21/outrageous-did-justice-department-seize-phone-records-of-james-rosens-parents/
Outrageous: Did Justice Department seize phone records of James Rosen’s parents?
Mark1971 on May 21, 2013 at 7:29 PM
I haven’t seen the tipping point yet.
The left is still standing behind their rat-eared coward.
There may be a lot of casualties but it will not reach into the inner circle of the West Wing. The rat-eared bastard apparently is far too important to care about the running of the Executive Branch of government.
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 7:30 PM
The funny thing is none of this surprises me. We all knew what he was before he got elected the first time.
Now the world is just catching up.
gophergirl on May 21, 2013 at 7:30 PM
They are looking for a leaker from within…..
they’re paranoid.
ted c on May 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM
It is VERY VERY possible he (OBAMA) knew about it all along.
Notice how one person has been remarkably silent on all the Obama scandals?
Joe Biden.
PappyD61 on May 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM
Wow, this is strangely reminiscent of a Secret Police operation from East Germany or sumptin!
D-fusit on May 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM
Yes, Fox News noted this evening that Eric Withholder also seized phone records from James Rosen’s parents’ home.
slickwillie2001 on May 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM
Can the same accusation apply to IRS thugs who leaked info about Romney’s and Koch Brothers’ taxes?
burrata on May 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM
That’s what you find outrageous?
How about a reporter being named a co-conspirator (as in he was seeking to give classified information to the enemy)? The only reason the rest of this crap happened is because the DoJ declared that Rosen was in collusion with his sources to reveal classified information.
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM
Should have seen this coming. The most iconic artifact of his campaign is an affront to the fourth estate.
Capitalist Hog on May 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM
Joe Biden.
PappyD61 on May 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM
I noticed that Pappy.
I have meant to mention it.
I haven’t/heard/ seen a peep.
But I am missing so much.
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM
Pretty obvious Comrade O’s belligerent rhetoric directed at FOXnews was taken very seriously by some of his minions.
Dear Leader’s thin skin is making Nixon’s legendary thin skin look like rhinoceros hide.
farsighted on May 21, 2013 at 7:34 PM
In 2008 you would have been branded a racist for declaring that the Obama administration was this totalitarian. Ed Morrissey would have banned you from HA because you didn’t give the rat-eared bastard a chance to prove what a wonderful leader he is.
Five years later, things are a tad different.
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 7:36 PM
They aren’t concerned about what the regime is doing to FOXnews. Most of them despise FOXnews.
They are concerned Dear Leader may be investigating them. And they are concerned their sources might clam up.
farsighted on May 21, 2013 at 7:37 PM
Agreed but there is a slight difference. Nixon’s thin skin was mostly about his policies. The rat-eared coward will not abide any criticism of him directly. If Nixon had that standard he would have died of a heart attack by the end of 1972.
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 7:39 PM
You notice that, too?
In the 1963 James Bond movie From Russia with Love , the strategy of the criminal organization SPECTRE is compared to three Siamese fighting in the same tank: Two will fight each other to the death while the third will wait its turn to fight the exhausted victor, symbolizing the conflict between the USA and the Soviet Union, with SPECTRE as the fish that waits.
IlikedAUH2O on May 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM
Evil and insidious.
Rode Werk on May 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM
They probably have him locked up in the White House basement with duct tape over his mouth. I mean, if Biden knows ANYTHING, it will come out of his mouth at some point.
CJ on May 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM
DISCLAIMER: I am not in anyway suggesting that Rosen is a spy, merely bringing up the question for discussion, because I feel like the press has published a lot of stuff during other administrations that should have stayed under wraps (not everything, because sometimes the government has to be outed when they are just trying to cover-up political malfeasance with no national security import):
If a reporter publishes classified information and the enemy reads it, how is that substantively different from handing it over in secret?
The sources knew Rosen intended to reveal classified information, by publishing it; how is this not collusion?
AesopFan on May 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM
I agree. Everything that’s coming out now is completely consistent with everything Obama has done in the past.
INC on May 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM
I really agree with CJ. I just love the Siamese fighting fish strategy.
However, who really knows what goes on in Joe O’ Biden’s mind?
IlikedAUH2O on May 21, 2013 at 7:44 PM
Obama has done in the past.
INC on May 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM
Or insinuated..said.
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:45 PM
Update:
Bret Baier has now reported that in addition to records from James Rosen’s work phone, cell phone and email, the DOJ also seized the phone records of James Rosen’s parents.
Yes, his parents.
Zcat on May 21, 2013 at 7:46 PM
and they all laugh with the President at the Correspondents dinner.
rob verdi on May 21, 2013 at 7:47 PM
President Barack Obama told his supporters at a campaign rally – inside a public high school, no less – to vote for revenge! That definitely sounds like something the Rev. Jeremiah Wright would say, comparable to the infamous “Godd—- America” quote and other phrases that he delivered to his masses when Barack Obama was in the audience instead of standing before the masses delivering his own type of hate.
Never have Americans heard a president tell his constituents, just four days before a national presidential election, tell Americans: “Voting is the best revenge!”
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:49 PM
Ronald Machen’s name has come up before in some other leak cases hasn’t it..?
d1carter on May 21, 2013 at 7:49 PM
Best and potentially most lucrative job in America right now: Legal counsel to James Rosen. Hope he sues the shit out of them and, in the process, expose Holder and Obama for the tyrants that they are.
TXUS on May 21, 2013 at 7:49 PM
Is Ronald Machen the insulation for Eric Holder’s misdeeds..?
d1carter on May 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM
I thought he would be transformational, a new era for the country.
arnold ziffel on May 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM
Obama said this:
“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.“
Walk down memory lane…
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:52 PM
He is in remedial “oath of office” training.
hillsoftx on May 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM
Friends..awwww
Left-wing radical Bill Ayers, a longtime friend of President Barack Obama, recently defended the series of bombings that he carried out as a member of the Weather Underground, saying that his bombings were not like the Boston Marathon attack and that America is the most violent country that has ever been created.
Ayers has since served as a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago and has been a “family friend” to Obama, who previously lived in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood, where Ayers and wife Bernadine Dohrn reside.
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM
Don’t see what the MSM is so concerned about. Barry just has Holder keeping his media whores in line.
GarandFan on May 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM
Keep burning those bridges Obama. One by one.
txhsmom on May 21, 2013 at 7:55 PM
Death by a 1000 cuts..
lets go. Slice~
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM
They no marchers.
They fluffers
burrata on May 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM
OT …
Did the senate just pass an amnesty bill ?
Lucano on May 21, 2013 at 7:59 PM
He’s a nice person, so said Mitt Romney. Gag.
SouthernGent on May 21, 2013 at 7:59 PM
He sits quietly on the balcony, shot gun at the ready.
Lily on May 21, 2013 at 8:00 PM
You’ve yet to prove that Rosen knew the information he was getting was classified. The traditional balance is to go out after the leaker and not the reporter. Rosen was named a co-conspirator so that differentiation was moot.
Are you really this stupid?
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 8:05 PM
I remember when the government used to hunt down and kill enemies and leave the rest of us alone. They had this wild idea about a Bill of Rights.
They made mistakes, sure, like the incarceration of Japanese Americans and the genocide of American Indians. Racist? Well they sure fried tons of Germans!
And our old LEOs would have sized up the Marathon bomber gang pretty fast and quietly dumped them right back in the Jihad happy pastures from whence they came.
Now we have an alphabet of agencies, a crossword puzzle of issues and a world wide war going on with spending and strategy issues worthy of three dimensional chess.
We need a “reset” button, alright, but it ain’t the one Hillary made a mess of in Russia.
Repeal every law passed since 1928.
IlikedAUH2O on May 21, 2013 at 8:05 PM
Perhaps the WH can see that theyve made their most loyal lap dogs angry and fear losing their cover so theyve convened this little confab at the WH today to try and bolster their national security argument. These MSMers hate Fox News so that doesnt really bother them and Holder testified that the AP stuff was justified. Wonder if their bogus argument will appease the royal azz kissers in the MSM.
neyney on May 21, 2013 at 8:06 PM
Go check Supreme Court decisions on this, counselor.
IlikedAUH2O on May 21, 2013 at 8:06 PM
It may be a long time before elite East and West coast lefties support someone from Chicago for President again.
It must offend their sense of superior liberal propriety to see raw Chicago style thuggery and ham-handed bumbling incompetence on display now day after day after day. The Chicago Gang gets away with in Chicago because there is no political opposition, the local media is either cowed or fully on board worth the program, and the majority of the population is on the take in one way or another.
When it seemed to be working and no one knew about it the lib elites on the coasts loved it. Or at least they tolerated it. Things have changed.
farsighted on May 21, 2013 at 8:07 PM
What would it take to get Jarrett, under oath, in front of congress? I, like many here, suspect most of the current scandals lead through her and maybe even stop before it reaches her sock puppet in the west wing.
SteveInRTP on May 21, 2013 at 8:09 PM
fully on board
worthwithfarsighted on May 21, 2013 at 8:10 PM
Sorry, sir. I get nasty at times and don’t like it when I do.
I meant to say that reporter Rosen is exempt from charges by stare decisis of SCOTUS in numerous cases dating from the famous Pentagon Papers on and was free to accept classified materials and publish them.
IlikedAUH2O on May 21, 2013 at 8:11 PM
I’m really starting to wonder how Obama twists his way out this time. Regardless, his legacy is destroyed, as is any hope of any kind of meaningful legislation in his second term.
It’s over.
Fuhgeddaboudit.
Chris of Rights on May 21, 2013 at 8:13 PM
this is working out swimmingly for barry and the schumer gang. Remember, barry decided to bite the bullet on the IRS and AP stories themselves…timing was essential. Weeks of distractions.
Risky..yeah, but barry is a risk taker…he usually wins big with the help of his friends
Will this even make the news?
and btw, both Frum and Kristol are agin the bill. Who…aside from corporate lobbyists like Barbour..are for it?
the left is worried about the big impact on wages, while the corporations make big bucks off this…who is for it? Well, aside from Google and KFC…and the DNC who are counting their votes over the next generation?
this is just like barrycare…except that the prog Rs and their big buck donors love it.
r keller on May 21, 2013 at 8:18 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/22/us-usa-immigration-idUSBRE94K00L20130522?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=992637
r keller on May 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM
We are not there yet. But the slim window for meaningful legislation in a second term is quickly closing by all these hearings into his administration’s epic misconduct. The hearings this week were supposed to be about amnesty for the illegals or gay marriage. It was not supposed to be about abuse of power, curtailment of civil rights, or perjury by administration officials.
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM
This crew has never and will never give a rat’s a$$ about any of the amendments. Welcome to the start of the jackboot nation.
ghostwalker1 on May 21, 2013 at 8:23 PM
Valerie Jarrett is Keyser Soze.
can_con on May 21, 2013 at 8:27 PM
sorry to keep talking about immigration. the FT has a big article on what a big Win this was for Silicon Valley
basically, they do not have to offer jobs to Americans first…see? It is great…big rally tomorrow in the markets. More $$$$$$$ than they can count…and the poli-crooks will get their slice. Looks like mario and flake won the lottery!!!!! yay!!!!
/
r keller on May 21, 2013 at 8:33 PM
So, somebody should tell Maureen Dowd that while Gibbsy isn’t “reading” her, someone in the White House may very well be “listening” to her.
parke on May 21, 2013 at 8:43 PM
My stomach churns whenever this regime even MENTIONS leaks !!!
Ask SEAL Team Six.
Ask the doctor who helped them.
Ask …. shoot, surely we find so many others who’ve paid the price for zero’s arrogant BLARING of leaks !!!
SPIT !!!
pambi on May 21, 2013 at 8:58 PM
The media not liking it when their pimp starts tracking their every move?
And why not? The Chicago Big owns his press, they are just his whores turning tricks (stories with the AP/Reuters banner) for him.
Get used to getting beat up you media sluts.
….and just like the battered wife, they go back and want some more thumping so they’ll feel reassured.
PappyD61 on May 21, 2013 at 9:21 PM
I hope James Rosen and his parents show up on The Daily Show.
monalisa on May 21, 2013 at 9:28 PM
The Mooche
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 12:41 AM
I hope that Ailes and Murdoch put out any amount of millions to defend the freedom of all the press.
Every sane leftists should help, alas.
They are all tyrants, fascists, never liberal/progressive.
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 12:42 AM
‘S’okay.
I wasn’t clear in my question.
I know that journalists have a lot of legal protection in regard to accepting and publishing classified information (and that the leaker bears responsibility for making it available); however, given the “climate of permission” the government (in different administrations) has established for arbitrarily (e.g., politically) overlooking or prosecuting leaks, why wouldn’t a foreign entity take advantage of that ambiguity by actively soliciting sensitive information under the guise of being a reporter?
AesopFan on May 23, 2013 at 1:20 PM
I thought the classification of the information was evident in the context.
Certainly the leaker knew that it was secret, and a reporter should exercise some diligence to know what he is getting and publishing, as a matter of civil responsibility.
Regardless of the legal situation, I don’t see why we should automatically side with the reporter in these cases, as some of them in the past have wilfully and recklessly endangered covert ops despite rational national security considerations.
AesopFan on May 23, 2013 at 1:28 PM
This is a standard MO of the feds. A friend of mine was attacked (quite literally) by several agencies as a result of a false complaint by a disgruntled ex-employee. They ramsacked his home, targeted his company, and harassed his parents to the point that his father died from the stress. My friend sued the government and WON, which is almost impossible to do, so that tells you just how outrageous the feds were.
AesopFan on May 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM
Alan Dershowitz agrees with me.
FWIW
“One law must apply to everyone.”
“It is today against the law …”
“You can’t stop them in advance, but you can prosecute them after..”
“Matter of policy ..”
“There are genuine national security secrets – you might be surprised to hear this from a liberal …”
AesopFan on May 23, 2013 at 3:01 PM