Whoopi: Gibson not a racist racist

posted at 12:55 pm on July 13, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Hmmm. Let’s see if we have this straight. Tea Party activists opposing big-spending programs by a Democratic President who happens to be black? Racist. Big Hollywood star tells girlfriend that her tight clothes will get her raped by “a pack of f*****g n******s”? Nuanced. Even Joy Behar has trouble with Whoopi Goldberg’s attempt to use the “some of Mel Gibson’s best friends are black” defense on The View, and the two start playing their Complete Moral Authority cards in a liberal meltdown. Pass the popcorn and watch the clip from Mediaite:

You can say he’s being a bonehead but I can’t sit and say that he’s a racist having spent time with him in my house with my kids. I can’t say it and so I really just need to say that. I don’t like what he’s done. Make no mistake. …

Drunks say stupid stuff to people all the time because they’re drunk. They’re out of control. They are not thinking they are idiotic. That’s why I don’t like alcohol. I can’t say anything about that because I know what people are like when they’re drunk. This rant, I don’t think he’s drunk on this rant.

Except, as Mediaite’s Glynnis MacNicol points out, Gibson didn’t sound drunk at all in the clips aired by Radar Online. He certainly sounds like a bonehead, as Whoopi calls him, but last I checked, bonehead and racist are not mutually exclusive. In fact, they almost always go together, just like bonehead usually goes with misogynist. Who’d have thought that two liberal women on television would debate the finer points of racism and anti-Semitism in this kind of situation, and not mention the fact that the clip also included threats of violence against the mother of the man’s child? It’s like double standards squared on The View.

However, they may not be that out of the mainstream. Survey USA surveyed 500 adults in the Los Angeles area and found that Gibson hasn’t done a tremendous amount of damage to the brand. Only 39% had an unfavorable view of Gibson, with men and women holding identical 39% negative assessments. A majority of 52% believe Gibson can rehabilitate his image, and 61% said they would go see a new Gibson movie when it hits the screens. He may not even have to hit the Betty Ford Clinic with those numbers.

Update: I had the Gibson quote slightly incorrect, Jim Treacher e-mails; it should have read “a pack of …” Which, as Jim says, is actually somewhat worse.


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Whoopi: Gibson not a racist racist

That means he will work again.

J_Crater on July 13, 2010 at 12:58 PM

She knows Gibson personally, so he’s not a racist.

It’s good to have standards.

John Deaux on July 13, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Whoopi has about zero credibility anyways. There is simply no excuse for what Gibson said…period.

Oh, and Whoopi….STFU.

search4truth on July 13, 2010 at 1:00 PM

He’s not racist racist.

Daggett on July 13, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Who do I sue to get the IQ points that evaporated while watching that back?

Good Lt on July 13, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Gibson didn’t sound drunk at all in the clips aired by Radar Online.

I disagree. He sounded like every mean drunk I’ve ever heard when they go on a rant. An experienced drunk (which Mel appears to be) does not necessarily slurr their words or sound incapacitated when they go off.

tommyboy on July 13, 2010 at 1:02 PM

I always have to preface the following comments with: “I don’t condone or find acceptable Gibson’s choice of words or ranting behavior…”

BUT, now the comments after that.

The malaise set upon Gibson is not simply due to his vocabulary and it is nearly solely a long-existing blood-libel by Ari Emanuel upon Gibson.

Emanuel has plodded along ever since THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST — Gibson produced and directed, as most know — in actually ASKING others to “boycott” or even bring harms upon Gibson, and because Emanuel is pretty much the William Morris agency, he’s been able to apply considerable pressure to people simply based upon implied harms to them (their careers, their livelihoods, their ‘popularity’ among people who make a living ‘being popular’) to in turn harm Gibson “or else”.

In other words, if one remained even neutral about Gibson and didn’t shred the guy or embarrass him or whatever, then, that put someone on Emanuel’s watch list if not out-list. So Hollywood, the entertainment industry, has been persistenly encouraged to denigrate if not ruin Gibson simply because Ari Emanuel wanted/wants that.

So here we go, Emanuel’s found the latest trap to spring upon the man for purposes of ruining him or trying to. He would have found whatever to do so. Whatever worked. Emanuel is an opportunist in character ruination and that’s his forte, and it’s also why he’s able to leverage clients by forcing or coercing rightful criticism upon them (and him) by ruining or rewarding sources.

The telephone call/s that capture Gibson’s irrational ranting were expected to be private. Gibson clearly lost his reason in both vocabulary and in purpose in saying and behaving as he did (on the call/s), but, he did have an expectation of privacy and the issue WAS a private relationship, so whatever he said was in that context. It does NOT represent Gibson smearing or being “a racist” about humanity, it’s just Gibson ranting with slur words, whatever he could grab to vent his disgust, anger, whatever…

He has never said “Black people are…(rant, rant)” or “Hispanics are (rant, rant)…” He was directing his animosity toward an individual who is the source of great pain, loss and ire to him. His foul vocabulary includes the same words heard all over the rotten town of Hollywood by many a person employed (and still employed) in studios, agencies, other businesses…it’s the ‘rough talk’ or “guy talk” heard in many a garage, in the military, in rooms and meetings and cars and ballgames and anywhere else where people vent their emotions using whatever they can say (and they do say).

So this so-called “Hollywood reaction” upon Gibson’s exposed telephone call/s isn’t about the stuff on the calls themselves but represents a sort of “sealed envelope” attempt by an arch-creep, Ari Emanuel, for purposes of “getting Gibson”.

Note that William Morris HAS NOT dumped client Roman Polanski. And that they continue to represent Wanda Sykes. Among a few others who have entire lives of disgusting aberrant words and behaviors yet Ari Emanuel is non-plussed about them, that, yet a call from Gibson assumed to be private gets Emanuel working the phones and clients to wage war on the man.

The only person I am disgusted by and with here is Ari Emanuel. Clearly, he’s waging a desperate war of personal destruction for whatever his creepy, disgusting motives may be: he hates the film Gibson made, he misunderstands the film (“Passion Of The Christ”), he loathes the New Testament (as he also does not understand it, nor respect it), he hates Gibson’s father (I don’t agree with the hate there but as to Gibson’s father, he’s got problems and I don’t agree with some of his randy opinions), he hates Gibson, and Emanuel has long called for personal destruction of Mel Gibson accordingly.

Divorce especially from long-standing marriages wrecks many a person’s composure and I defy ANYone to find ANY person undergoing the damages (cause of divorce, the divorce itself, financial destruction or rearrangements, loss of family, loss of friends, etc.) of divorce in general who is happy and well-balanced.

Throw in substance abuse recovery or struggle and you get a person who vents on the phone using crass language when they’re upset and lose control of their anger. Obviously, Mel Gibson lost control.

But the problem is the vengeance and the criminality of Ari Emanuel, in my view.

Lourdes on July 13, 2010 at 1:02 PM

And remember Wanda Sykes? She even delivered her wretched remarks from the White House with a President sitting there beside her laughing, not to mention a room full of alleged media doing likewise. William Morris continues to represent Wanda Sykes and yet dumps Mel Gibson.

William Morris continues to represent Roman Polanksi, despicable abuser of children and dishonorable refuser to reconcile himself with US laws. Yet William Morris dumped Mel Gibson because he used the “n-word” and said “w e t . b.a.c.k.s”.

Sean Penn has likely said far worse throughout his lifetime than Gibson has ever said on a few telephone calls to a conniving, betraying ex-girlfriend.

Hollywood and the Left in general continue to exemplify lack of reason, imbalance that is nonsensical and harmful.

Lourdes on July 13, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Lourdes on July 13, 2010 at 1:03 PM

This is about as bad as the SNL news segment…

“Marlon Brando apologized to the elders as the synagogue Beth Israel today saying that it wasn’t true that “Jews decided who worked in Hollywood” and the elders said he could work again”

Whoopi has given us a reenactment with a variation.

J_Crater on July 13, 2010 at 1:05 PM

We don’t care about Mel, Whoopi or you either. This is just another in a long line of distractions. We ain’t buying this bs anymore.

Kissmygrits on July 13, 2010 at 1:05 PM

She’d defend Limbaugh if it was him on those tapes. Right?

Well, either that or she’d spontaneously combust in self-righteous rage live on air.

mudskipper on July 13, 2010 at 1:06 PM

So, Whoopi goes to bat for Mel’s character based on knowledge about him that many others–including those at the table–do not have of him. This is good news, particularly with the charge of racism. If a woman such as Whoopi can defend Mel in this instance, then how is it that anyone else–without ANY knowledge of the TEA Party movement–can discern racism from merely opposing the policies of the president?

Certainly Whoopi is arguing that only someone close to another individual can provide critical information on whether or not that person has racist tendencies, even in the face of public information that suggests it to be true. This goes against the tactics of the Reverends Al and Jesse–it directly undermines them–for they are the diviners of all that is racism, in all its subtleties and forms: Lebron leaves and owner is upset–Racism. A firefighter doesn’t get a promotion—racism….all of these charges brought upon people without ANY prior knowledge of the person whatsoever….it is damaging and demeaning and I’m glad that Whoopi stood up for Mel when no one else will. A friend is a friend when no one else is….Mel should be thanking her, although she did a relatively poor and difficult job defending him. IMO..

ted c on July 13, 2010 at 1:06 PM

So the Tea Party is racist, but Mel Gibson is not?

JamesB on July 13, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Thomas Sowell would partially agree with Whoopi on her arguments.

ted c on July 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM

I am not a racist, why some of my best friends are black….

I don’t hate Jews, some of my best friends are Jews…I don’t hate gays some of my best friends are gay…

Whoopi, you are the excuse…you are the “best friend”…

right2bright on July 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Some of my best friends are racists. Wait. What was the question?

Seixon on July 13, 2010 at 1:09 PM

You miss the whole point. This is someone she knows personally. Therefore, given a pass.

We all do that. When judging a stranger and friend on the same set of circumstances, the friend will always get the benefit of the doubt.

ButterflyDragon on July 13, 2010 at 1:10 PM

leave mel gibson alone!!!

moonbatkiller on July 13, 2010 at 1:10 PM

The woman chose the name Whoopi Goldberg. From the gasbag known as a “whoopie cushion”.

Nuff said.

fogw on July 13, 2010 at 1:12 PM

LOL! I saw this live yesterday and immediately said to my sister, “Oh, she is saying he’s not a “racist-racist”. She had no idea what I meant.

Gob on July 13, 2010 at 1:12 PM

I have to say I get her point. Mel Gibson is such an obvious belligerant drunk (not all are, but he fits the label) that even his violent rants towards his wife just hit my ears as nothing but extreme self-pity rants.

He really needs to sober up.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 1:13 PM

If anyone thinks they can say whether someone is drunk or not simply by the sound of their voice then they have never spent time with a chronic alcoholic.

Rocks on July 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Whoopi be an expert on racists because she are one.

Hening on July 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM

If anyone thinks they can say whether someone is drunk or not simply by the sound of their voice then they have never spent time with a chronic alcoholic.

Rocks on July 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM

exactly

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 1:18 PM

It sounded like a Rev Wright sermon.

faraway on July 13, 2010 at 1:18 PM

His wife needs Al-Anon, too. LOL* She is talking to a bottle.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Mel Gibson needs help, that’s obvious and, we are all one recording away from destroying our credibility. Mel needs to check his heart and get some help from a good friend in his life that can help him along. Both you and me need a person like that sometime—someone who’ll love you and listen to you when absolutely no one else will. I do not envy the fame these stars (sometimes) enjoy.

ted c on July 13, 2010 at 1:19 PM

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 1:13 PM

See I’m with you. Is Mel a d*ck? A Misogynist? Un-PC? a Violent Jerk? a Drunk? yes. But as we often do today we throw racist around so quickly (most of the time it should be bigot.) He said a Un-PC word, a word someone like him shouldn’t use (or again anyone) but using a word doesn’t make you a racist.

People who believe they are superior because of race are racist, people like Eric Holder.

Rbastid on July 13, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Apologize, repent, dry out, get some help managing anger and emotional baggage, and for heavens sake don’t have a meltdown by telephone ever again.

tru2tx on July 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM

I don’t think he’s racist, he’s a nutjob.

Are people still focusing on using that one word and ignoring the other more serious issues?

I’m so sick of hearing about race and he/she/they are racist, that I just ignore it now. I just don’t care anymore.

reaganaut on July 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Even Joy Behar has trouble with Whoopi Goldberg’s attempt to use the “some of Mel Gibson’s best friends are black” defense

Well lets be honest, Behar may be *twitch* right but she’s also quite happy to have a reason to hate the guy I’m sure after the Passion movie.

Dash on July 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM

See I’m with you. Is Mel a d*ck? A Misogynist? Un-PC? a Violent Jerk? a Drunk? yes. But as we often do today we throw racist around so quickly (most of the time it should be bigot.) He said a Un-PC word, a word someone like him shouldn’t use (or again anyone) but using a word doesn’t make you a racist.

People who believe they are superior because of race are racist, people like Eric Holder.

Rbastid on July 13, 2010 at 1:20 PM

He’s doing a lot of stuff that he’d never do sober. He’s well past the “tell the truth when I’m drunk” stage. This is more like a late-stage, angry alcoholic talking who would insult his mother and his best friend.

He just needs to sober up.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 1:22 PM

I can’t stand that show. I just can’t watch it, or any clips from it. Joy is as smart as a raisin…and Whoopi’s lost all credibility with me, a long time ago.

I dont’ care what their opinions are, I only know what I think. I think Mel was wrong for his rants, and words. They’re inexcusable, and the woman…is nothing but a trashy gold digger. It’s obvious, by the way she speaks on the phone. She baits, and snares. And according to the news, the relationship went awry, when she refused to sign a prenup for $5million. Nothing to sneeze at, but she knew there was more to be had, and held out. Only to lose in the end. She’ll get child support, but nothing more.

The real victim in this, is the child.

capejasmine on July 13, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Dash on July 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Good point.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 1:23 PM

The real victim in this, is the child.

capejasmine on July 13, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Agree. Good thing the wife left. She needed to keep the child safe.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Lourdes on July 13, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Interesting

darwin on July 13, 2010 at 1:25 PM

ted c on July 13, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Yes.

tru2tx on July 13, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Gibson is passive racist vs active racists of Black Panthers.

PrezHussein on July 13, 2010 at 1:26 PM

So Goldberg seems to be saying because she KNOWS Gibson, she does not consider him a racist. OK fine. But, she seems to be OK with calling others racist she doesn’t know for saying things that don’t come close to what Gibson said. Of course we are talking about someone who defended Roman Polanski. It seems Whoopi’s standard of being a good person is anyone in the entertainment industry she happens to like.

echosyst on July 13, 2010 at 1:27 PM

This show is completely unwatchable.

I tried it on mute, but then it’s like I’m watching a low budget horror where the creatures from the swamp have abducted the blonde heroine.

mudskipper on July 13, 2010 at 1:27 PM

No matter where you are, who you are talking with, using any means of communication, even face-to-face, you must remember — the mic is ALWAYS on.

Matticus Finch on July 13, 2010 at 1:28 PM

so there is no problem with his horrendous talk about killing his wife? bashing her head in and burying her? the N word is the big talk. But tell me we are all equal now and dont need to pursue womens rights. Which as HRC noted are human rights. slavery exists in the world for women, in Muslim countries IMO women are like slaves.

Think about any man being dropped in the middle of nowhere no $ USA,m he would likely make it home. Woman same situation? perhaps not/. anywhere in the world, man likely to survive. Woman, not so much. so sick of this shxt.

ginaswo on July 13, 2010 at 1:29 PM

It seems Whoopi’s standard of being a good person is anyone in the entertainment industry she happens to like.

echosyst on July 13, 2010 at 1:27 PM

well, that’s closer to a concrete definition than either Al or Jesse have ever put forward….

jus sayin…

ted c on July 13, 2010 at 1:30 PM

Of course we are talking about someone who defended Roman Polanski. It seems Whoopi’s standard of being a good person is anyone in the entertainment industry she happens to like.

echosyst on July 13, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Her remark about Polansky was not defensible.

This one is different. He’s got a very, very obvious substance abuse problem that has hit a late stage. Next up is jail time and institutions for Mel if he doesn’t take this seriously.

Her take on Polanski showed a complete lack of information about the facts behind the story.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 1:30 PM

Whoopi’s original name is Caryn Elaine Johnson, which does not sound particularly Jewish or fun inducing. Hi Caryn!

PS Bite me. She is proof that dreadlocks restricts blood flow to the brain.

GnuBreed on July 13, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Whoopi: I know him and therefore he can’t be racist.

Phoenician on July 13, 2010 at 1:32 PM

Good thing he didn’t call her a nappy headed ho! He might have been exiled!

Vince on July 13, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Let’s see:

Rampant unemployment continues? Check.

Environmental catastrophe? Check.

Rogue states going nuclear? Check.

AZ tries to stem illegal alien invasion? Check.

Virtual unknown nominated to Supreme Court? Check.

Whoopi Goldberg’s opinion of Mel Gibson. Got it.

nico on July 13, 2010 at 1:37 PM

I just think it’s odd that someone listens to a long, drawn-out series of abusive, violent rhetoric about sexual assault, and their take-away is “OMG he used the n-word!”

It’s kind of like critiquing the grammar of one of Awlaki’s screeds – the least of offenses present.

Merovign on July 13, 2010 at 1:37 PM

If Gibson is a racist than so is Sandra Bernhard.

29Victor on July 13, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Wonderful. Whoopi thinks everyone is racist, except a real racist.

fleiter on July 13, 2010 at 1:37 PM

She needed to keep the child safe.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Lol, yeah what a trouper.

jjraines on July 13, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Goldberg: This rant, I don’t think he’s drunk on this rant.

Then he really is a surly misogynistic racist sonofabitch. Thanks for clearing that up.

Cr4sh Dummy on July 13, 2010 at 1:39 PM

MAJOR CATFIGHT BETWEEN MEGHYN AND KP!!!! ALLAH/ED GET ON IT NOW!!!

ProudPalinFan on July 13, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Of course we are talking about someone who defended Roman Polanski. It seems Whoopi’s standard of being a good person is anyone in the entertainment industry she happens to like.

echosyst on July 13, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Beligerant drunks like him always are abusive to wives. That goes with the territory.

She may really be a golddigger who saw his disease as a pretty good permanent meal ticket. He’d be easy to set up, and she clearly did. Someone recorded this stuff. And she absolutely stayed on the phone with him and calmly just let him rant himself into a corner.

I wonder.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Wait, Whoopi has kids? Whoa…

Wyznowski on July 13, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Lourdes on July 13, 2010 at 1:02 PM
Interesting

darwin on July 13, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Interesting indeed, and as any other time I hear the last name of Emanuel, I wonder, “hmmm, related to Rahm?”
That’s a big 10-4 in this case. Wow, all three Emanuel boys are jerks.

roxi618 on July 13, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Gibson is passive racist vs active racists of Black Panthers.

PrezHussein on July 13, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Yep

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 1:42 PM

MAJOR CATFIGHT BETWEEN MEGHYN AND KP!!!! ALLAH/ED GET ON IT NOW!!!

ProudPalinFan on July 13, 2010 at 1:39 PM

’bout what?

ted c on July 13, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Lourdes, I may agree with you. When people are extremely angry with a close associate, like in a divorce situation, they will often say things that they don’t really believe, in order to hurt the other person as much as possible, especially in private conversations. That is a MUCH different situation than when something is said in public or when not under extreme duress.

mydh12 on July 13, 2010 at 1:44 PM

Beligerant drunks like him always are abusive to wives. That goes with the territory.

She may really be a golddigger who saw his disease as a pretty good permanent meal ticket. He’d be easy to set up, and she clearly did. Someone recorded this stuff. And she absolutely stayed on the phone with him and calmly just let him rant himself into a corner.

I wonder.

I suppose someone could have assumed the same thing about OJ Simpson when he used rant at his ex wife, just prior to slicing her to pieces. It doesn’t matter if she is a goldigger or not, you don’t go around beating women and threatening to kill them.

echosyst on July 13, 2010 at 1:47 PM

I might be alone here, but if she truly believes he isn’t racist, I think it’s appropriate for her to say something, and I’m glad she did.

What he said was offensive and wrong and inexcusable, most especially for the admitted domestic abuse, but I have never thought that one word or one rant (or even two if you count the last drunken one years ago) is complete proof of racism.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Let’s see — which is worse? A gold-digger Russian who set him up and possibly prodded him into a rage to extort money from him, or an ex-super star in a rage using an over-protected word that white people are not allowed to use any more but which black people throw around indiscrimantly. AND, using that word in a private conversation.

In this particular case, I’d have to say even-steven, and I’m not going to hold it against him.

I’m a little more leery, however, if Miss Russian Bimbo can prove that he punched two teeth out of her face. I guess in that case, each tooth would be worth a million or so, provided she retreats somewhere with the rest of the Russians who came to America to make themselves rich at our expense and shuts the hell up, never to be heard from again.

I think Mel is probably rich enough that, really, he doesn’t have to make any more movies. Maybe he can rehabilitate himself with good charitable works for the next decade or two. Just stay away from Third World model-looking females and wear a damned condem so he doesn’t father any more children.

NahnCee on July 13, 2010 at 1:53 PM

I miss the days when Helen Thomas could say “go back home” and get away with it. Oh wait…

Electrongod on July 13, 2010 at 1:53 PM

What he said was offensive and wrong and inexcusable, most especially for the admitted domestic abuse, but I have never thought that one word or one rant (or even two if you count the last drunken one years ago) is complete proof of racism.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 1:48 PM

It’s strong evidence. Things in a person’s psyche that are usually hidden can come out in situations like this. They come from somewhere.

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 1:56 PM

NahnCee on July 13, 2010 at 1:53 PM

WTF? You’re not at all embarrassed to have typed this?

The man cheated on his wife, then left her for this woman, and somehow now he’s the victim because he verbally and physically beat her?

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 1:57 PM

Yes, the threats of violence on the tape against the girlfriend were the most perturbing. I don’t care whether it was “private” or not; threatening to kill a loved one is inexcusable. And calling a victim of at the very least verbal abuse a “Russian bimbo” just because you liked a movie that her husband did six years ago is disturbing.

Illinidiva on July 13, 2010 at 2:02 PM

It’s strong evidence. Things in a person’s psyche that are usually hidden can come out in situations like this. They come from somewhere.

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 1:56 PM

I accept that, but he aside from using a slur, he didn’t go into a rant about blacks like he did with Jews. I can also buy that he picked the word for shock value, because that’s what things like “I’ll burn down your house, but first you’ll blow me” kinds of comments sound like to me.

I won’t excuse him, but I don’t find this conclusive proof.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 2:02 PM

I suppose someone could have assumed the same thing about OJ Simpson when he used rant at his ex wife, just prior to slicing her to pieces. It doesn’t matter if she is a goldigger or not, you don’t go around beating women and threatening to kill them.

echosyst on July 13, 2010 at 1:47 PM

Agree. She’s playing with fire.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 2:04 PM

I can also buy that he picked the word for shock value,…

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 2:02 PM

I didn’t get the sense he was carefully choosing his words.

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 2:05 PM

It isn’t Genocide Genocide.

Whoopi on Rwanda.

Holger on July 13, 2010 at 2:05 PM

She may be sincerely unaware of alcoholism and the dangers. If she got close enough to get her teeth knocked out, I’d assume just that.

She needs as much help as he does.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 2:06 PM

I didn’t get the sense he was carefully choosing his words.

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 2:05 PM

I don’t either, but I don’t consider the kinds of words that can be used for shock value to be ones that take any kind of careful choosing. Do you?

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Then again, his millions buy a lot of implants. LOL*

(Sorry, that’s a bit of morbid humor here.)

Both of them are sick cookies. That’s enuf said.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 2:08 PM

All I want to know is how did the tape get out? Did she secretly tape him, then sell it to the tabloids to the highest bidder? The quality sounds much better when she is speaking so It seems the recording was done from her end. Does anyone know?

Scorched_Earth on July 13, 2010 at 2:10 PM

I don’t either, but I don’t consider the kinds of words that can be used for shock value to be ones that take any kind of careful choosing. Do you?

I’m not sure I’m following you. Either he chose them deliberately for shock value, or they just came naturally.

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 2:12 PM

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 2:12 PM

Hello. He was drunk.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 2:15 PM

Hello. He was drunk.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 2:15 PM

Probably. In which case they likely came naturally.

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 2:17 PM

All I want to know is how did the tape get out? Did she secretly tape him, then sell it to the tabloids to the highest bidder? The quality sounds much better when she is speaking so It seems the recording was done from her end. Does anyone know?

Scorched_Earth on July 13, 2010 at 2:10 PM

She is so calm and measured, I think it was a set-up, money says she hung up and high fived her attorney who was probably sitting there laughing is arse off.

right2bright on July 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM

I love how “racism” has been allowed to surpass child rape as a top tier crime in this totally f’d up society. So certain individuals hate someone based on skin color and there is no higher societal crime? Look at the way conservatives STILL walk on eggshells around the joke of an issue.

You wan’t to hate someone, go for it. Why the fvck should I care? Just part of human nature, but I don’t think it is as big a part as everyone likes to focus on.

ClassicCon on July 13, 2010 at 2:21 PM

Angry drunk man uses profanity, film at 11.

agmartin on July 13, 2010 at 2:21 PM

Probably. In which case they likely came naturally.

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 2:17 PM

Exactly.

ladyingray on July 13, 2010 at 2:23 PM

I’m not sure I’m following you. Either he chose them deliberately for shock value, or they just came naturally.

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 2:12 PM

I don’t see it as an either or situation. I can see someone being so angry that they reach for generic shock words. I don’t see that as something that would necessarily take a racist heart or shock skill.

I’m tamer than he is, so if I wanted to shock, I’d only need to go to the four letter words. If I used them more often when I wasn’t angry, I’d probably have to reach a little deeper. That’s what I’m assuming could have happened here, that telling her to f-ing blow him wasn’t enough, so he went a little deeper and wasn’t witty enough to go with anything but a racial slur.

I’m not saying it did happen that way. I also find it completely plausible that he’s a total racist. There’s certainly less evidence to the contrary.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 2:27 PM

Lourdes on July 13, 2010 at 1:02 PM

excellent post

hollywood tried to reign in Mel when they refused to have anything to do with “passion of Christ” .

So Mel put most of his money in to it and became a player overnight

Hollywood hates his type of movies, the ones with heroes, sacrifice and good vs evil

they prefer anything that cast our history in a dour light

Mel may be flawed but I doubt he’s alone in that category and he doesn’t disparage america

meanwhile ny state sponsors racism by allowing race to be considered in hiring, awarding contracts and education

mels cool with me

and the left are commies

Sonosam on July 13, 2010 at 2:29 PM

Interesting indeed, and as any other time I hear the last name of Emanuel, I wonder, “hmmm, related to Rahm?”

That’s a big 10-4 in this case.

Wow, all three Emanuel boys are jerks evil, insecure little girly-boys who have to destroy lives in order to fool themselves into thinking that they even have a slight resemblence, in any way, (and you know what I mean) to real men.

roxi618 on July 13, 2010 at 1:42 PM

FIFY

tigerlily on July 13, 2010 at 2:32 PM

I can see someone being so angry that they reach for generic shock words. I don’t see that as something that would necessarily take a racist heart or shock skill.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 2:27 PM

It’s not just the one word. Also consider the context it was embedded in.

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 2:38 PM

After Hollywood’s defense of Roman Polanski (convicted child rapist), it’s hard to give a **** about this imbroglio. Hollywood’s moral standards are as fake as its’ sets.

LarryD on July 13, 2010 at 2:40 PM

What Whoopi highlights is that many Americans do have friends who are racist. She has the same problem that GOPpers suffer from — she is unwilling to stand up to the bigots in her midst. She is a enabler. Maybe they both need 12 steps.

I don’t mind bigotry so much as it is acknowledged for what it is. That is, people like Jenfidel (“Wetbakistan”) who stand behind their words earn my respect more than those who parse them and try to bend them to the least damning connotation…like George Allen.

Racist behavior is a usually ugly expression of personal moral failure. It’s similar to alcoholism and the slurs are akin to pissing one’s self or passing out standing up. Being a bigot does not make you a bad parent or spouse. It just makes you a moral-failure in that one regard.

Most of us have a cross to bear. Most of us are lucky in that our cross is not so burdensome as Mel Gibson’s.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 2:56 PM

ClassicCon on July 13, 2010 at 2:21 PM

You’re just itching to spill some slurs aren’t ya? Go big, big boy!

Oh wait, you’re too big of a wuss. You would prefer if you could make slurs against anybody BUT did not have to deal with the fallout.

Grow a pair, WUSS!

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 2:58 PM

Whoopi: Gibson not a racist racist

Yeah, it’s not as if he went to a TEA Party rally for heaven’s sake!

(Wonder how his bud Comrade Glover feels about this?)

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 13, 2010 at 3:02 PM

I don’t think he’s racist, he’s a nutjob.

Are people still focusing on using that one word and ignoring the other more serious issues?

I’m so sick of hearing about race and he/she/they are racist, that I just ignore it now. I just don’t care anymore.

reaganaut on July 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Quoted for truth. These days crys of racism just obscure deeper issues to the exclusion of better judgement.

RAB on July 13, 2010 at 3:05 PM

Mel freaked out on someone he’s obviously very passionate about. He came off looking like a boor and an unstable idiot and, until someone finds a bloody glove on his property, I’m writing this off as nothing more than a hot-head running his mouth.

joejm65 on July 13, 2010 at 3:06 PM

Am I the only one who remember how Whoopi and Gibson broke up after he shows up at a party in a blackface?

year_of_the_dingo on July 13, 2010 at 3:06 PM

Just my own two-cents on Mel.

imo, he is possessed of genius talent and made one of the most beautiful movies about Christ in the history of film. He has been under attack, on all levels, fueled by the devil himself, ever since.

Also, imo, he is a very compassionate soul, who has behind the scenes helped many, many down and out persons, celebrity and otherwise.

On the other hand, his personality is and has been warped by substance and booze abuse, which leave any person wide open for tragedy. The devil would like to destroy Mel because he won and is winning souls for Christ with his film. Mel was a great spiritual warrior, literally snatching souls from the devil’s hand through the Passion of the Christ.

But now, through unresolved issues and especially substance abuse, Mel is handing the devil, and the devil’s human puppets, the ability to attempt to destroy him and keep him from ever being a great warrior for Christ again. It is not uncommon to see someone do something so awesome for God, and then get spiritually decimated. I think Mel let his guard down after The Passion, not realizing that his conversion was ongoing, and precarious, and dependent on a huge amount of “clean living”, because the devil was and is stalking him in an especially malicious way.

And no, I am not saying the devil made him do it. I am just pointing out the realities involved that are not visible to the human eye, but can be seen by the human heart.

Further, Mel is living a huge contradiction, brought on by his addled substance abusing brain: He cheated, divorced and attempted to continue in a relationship with the Russian girl.

That is mortal sin, and Mel knows it. As a Catholic he is taught that one must, as soon as possible, repent, confess and restore the soul to life. Mortal sin is literally a soul that is dead. And If Mel, God forbid, were to die suddenly, without confession or perfect contrition at the time of death, he would, objectively speaking, lose his soul. I say objectively, because only God Himself can know how responsible a soul is for sins committed, and only God Himself, who is infinitely merciful, is final Judge.

So, add up his booze/substance problem, his irreconcilable moral/spiritual problem, his rage at all of that, not to mention his shame in front of his adult children, and his wife of forty years, who must be thinking, if not saying: “hypocrite”, on the one hand, and on the other hand, “Dad/Mel, we love you, why did you break up our family?”

Mel has a well developed conscience and the self-hatred he must be feeling has to be a horror, and now, his sins are public in a way not one of us would wish on our worst enemy.

He MUST begin to live in the way he KNOWS is right, not be a slave to his emotions/lusts/addictions, otherwise, there is no way for him to ever have a shred of peace. Why he doesn’t disappear to a remote monastery for a couple of years is beyond me. Like any addict, he has to leave behind the places/people that tempt him. He also needs to reconcile himself to authentic Roman Catholicism, if the rumor is true that he is of the small sect of Catholics who believe that “the Chair of Peter is empty.”

And I really think the nasty and inexcusable (but forgivable if he is repentent)things he said are how he really feels about himself. And I think we should pray that he gets real help as soon as possible. Because Mel already spoke about how he very nearly ended his life in the ’90′s.

Pray that it doesn’t happen now.

Let’s all, no matter how guilty he may or may not be of various sins (and aren’t we all guilty of many sins?), pray very hard that Mel continues to live and is healed, because we are watching a drowning man. Are we going to throw him a life preserver, or talk about him as he goes under?

“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
- Jesus the Christ

tigerlily on July 13, 2010 at 3:20 PM

Whoopi: “Polanski is not a ‘rapist’ rapist.”

Jaibones on July 13, 2010 at 3:28 PM

Throw a white sheet over him and Whoopi would vote for him in a senate election.

No standards.

tommer74 on July 13, 2010 at 3:37 PM

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 2:12 PM

I think this is a whole bunch simpler.

Mel is an alcoholic.
He’s headed into the late stages, which is either jail or institution.

He either gets sober or he’ll die this way.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 4:02 PM

Folks, Mel is truly an alcoholic in the late stages.

There is a solution.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM

At least, so far, Mel Gibson hasn’t been accused of “rape rape”

J_Crater on July 13, 2010 at 4:16 PM

I think this is a whole bunch simpler.

Mel is an alcoholic.
He’s headed into the late stages, which is either jail or institution.

He either gets sober or he’ll die this way.

AnninCA on July 13, 2010 at 4:02 PM

He may be an alcoholic. He also appears to be a racist and a misogynist. A complex human being.

DarkCurrent on July 13, 2010 at 4:27 PM

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