Video: Dancing at Auschwitz

posted at 4:53 pm on July 13, 2010 by Allahpundit

To cleanse the palate, it’s six months old but only beginning to go viral this week for whatever reason. I’ve watched it three times and can’t make up my mind. Triumphal joie de vivre from a survivor of the world’s most infamous death camp should make for ecstatic uplift — and yet, and yet, I can’t quite assimilate the scene with the soundtrack. Gloria Gaynor at Auschwitz? It’s like watching firefighters doing the Macarena at Ground Zero. Nothing wrong with it, exactly, just … not a combination you would have ever, ever expected. Exit question: Love it, like it, or a little bit queasy?

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Talking to yourself? You sicker than I thought.

CWforFreedom on July 13, 2010 at 5:28 PM

That’s not new.

The moment we start chuckling about the industrial slaughter of 12 million human beings is the moment we lose any shred of decency we still have left.

Nisht gut!

Captain Kirock on July 13, 2010 at 5:33 PM

Who says we’re laughing at them?

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 5:37 PM

He survived and is surrounded by a loving family. It is glorious he can still sing and dance.
Why go to tel Aviv to dance? THIS is where he survived.

did anybody watch it to the end, where he speaks of the wonder of being there ALIVE?

You Rock Granpa

RWGinger on July 13, 2010 at 5:38 PM

In the early 90s, I visited Dachau. On the train there, I met a woman and her 3 adult sons. She was Jewish, had been in Dauchau and hadn’t been back for 45 years. I could see her getting more and more distraught as we approached the stop. After we went in, we split up. About 20 minutes later, I saw her sons helping her out of the camp. It was just too much for her emotionally and she couldn’t take it. It’s fine that some people survived, but the memories for the majority of people are overwhelming. Think about everyone who you loved who died and then think about people pissing all over those memories. And remember, they are having a hard enough time making sure visitors are behaving accordingly. People steal everything, kids run around giggling and giving nazi salutes, neo nazis steal important historical symbols. This doesn’t set the greatest example.

Blake on July 13, 2010 at 5:40 PM

I’ll be the first to say it. This is crass and in bad taste. When will they come out with a Armenian, Rawanda or Sudanese genocide survival dance? My G-d! Go away and live your life in peace but go to Auschwitz and dance on the blood of the slain….???

flameofjudah on July 13, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Do we dance in cemeteries? Do we dance at Pearl? Auschwitz/Birkenau is one giant grave site.

Blake on July 13, 2010 at 5:32 PM

No.

If I caught anyone dancing on the graves of soldiers in Normandy, victims of Auschwitz, Pearl Harbor,or 9/11, the only fancy footwork I would be doing would be my boot right up against their asses.

portlandon on July 13, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Who says we’re laughing at them?

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Please don’t pretend that this was not meant to get a laugh out of people, at a Nazi death camp.

Captain Kirock on July 13, 2010 at 5:41 PM

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:25 PM

Do you have these replies pre-typed. Freak!

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM

Stop arguing with an idiot , its not helping.
Go take your meds.

macncheez on July 13, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Who says we’re laughing at them?

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Yeah, I wasn’t laughing. I didn’t think that I was expected to laugh. I was celebrating his life, celebrating the fact that Hitler failed to end both him and his family, and I was getting a little weepy in the process.

29Victor on July 13, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about casting all nazis as extremists?

Ronnie on July 13, 2010 at 5:34 PM

That would be stupid.

Many Nazis were just wannabes and followers…just like gangbangers and other big talkers. There’s nothing extreme about that, it’s rather typical.

I used to work out with a skinhead. He is a WP separatist but not white supremacist. His wife is Jewish. The family gatherings are INSANE.

I didn’t write the guy off because I met him when he needed help. A friend in need kind of thing. He and I see eye to eye on many, many issues…just not race.

I’ve said it before that racist behavior is a moral failing similar to being a blatant alcoholic. It’s excusable insofar as people own their problem or get help for it.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:41 PM

This is just wrong.

Gatsu on July 13, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Roman Polanski?

Mr. Joe on July 13, 2010 at 5:42 PM

It’s contrived and a bit cringe-worthy like Elaine’s dancing on Seinfeld, but after all he was probably too weak to move in ’45. Not every Jew can be a highbrow artist-intellectual, though I bet the staff at COMMENTARY is inwardly plotzing.

Seth Halpern on July 13, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Immediate reaction when I saw the post? Bad taste. Feeling before clicking the video? Queasy. After watching the video? I think it was great. Here you have a survivor of this horrible place dancing on the grounds where he beat death, along with grandchildren who may have never been born. It says something about the perseverence of humanity, and what we can overcome with faith and fortitude, and that evil can be defeated, and you can look back at it after time and show it that it didn’t win. I would like to believe the ghosts of the people in that horrible place would have been dancing next to him, saying, “you go, man!”

Of course I could be wrong.

P.S. It’s not the same as dancing at ground zero. Realistically, there is a time factor involved, and it would be way to soon to do something like this there.

jjverdi on July 13, 2010 at 5:44 PM

If I caught anyone dancing on the graves of soldiers in Normandy, victims of Auschwitz, Pearl Harbor,or 9/11, the only fancy footwork I would be doing would be my boot right up against their asses.

portlandon on July 13, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Personally speaking, dancing on graves and dancing at cemeteries are totally different in tone and intent.

I’ve read books, danced, skateboarded, done back flips and drank beer at a cemetery. Those are all activities I did in the past with those for whom I mourned.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:44 PM

When they bury me, I hope everyone dances.

JohnGalt23 on July 13, 2010 at 5:33 PM

Be sure to put your wishes into your will. There is a reason that linguistically, at least, dancing on someone’s grave is equivalent to spitting on it. The dance celebrates death, not life and survival. This video turns that symbolism on its head, and it doesn’t work for me.

ProfessorMiao on July 13, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Please don’t pretend that this was not meant to get a laugh out of people, at a Nazi death camp.

Captain Kirock on July 13, 2010 at 5:41 PM

I think you’re watching this in an entirely different light than many of us here. I don’t see anything in this video that was intended to get a laugh. In fact, I can’t really imagine what in this video was supposed to be the least bit funny.

29Victor on July 13, 2010 at 5:45 PM

The video could have started at Auschwitz to give us his background and then maybe he could have danced at Hitler’s bunker or the Eagle’s Nest or any other “Nazi” landmark. He could have even requested a copy of the blueprints that Germany just handed over to Israel and symbolically tore them/burned them etc.

That would be a video I would be happy to see go viral. This one makes me queasy.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 13, 2010 at 5:45 PM

If it were anyone other than a survivor I would have a problem.

But if the guy wants to dance, so be it. And his family can join in.

The ghosts there probably don’t get to many happy scenes.

cozmo on July 13, 2010 at 5:46 PM

I would not dance at Ground Zero. Ever.

runner on July 13, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Forget the location, this video is dreadfully unoriginal and unfunny. Any idiot can record 5 dolts doing 2 dance moves in any location on earth. It just doesn’t make for a good video.

TheBlueSite on July 13, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Appreciate the good intentions but as other commenters said above, the song is about a failed relationship and is, let’s be honest, pretty cheesy for the massive horror that Auschwitz represents.

I agree with singing at Auschwitz though, as a celebration of evil not accomplishing its final goal. How about something more along the lines of this (lyrics at link)?

inviolet on July 13, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Stop it old man!

You’re not allowed to do this. After surviving the 20th century’s worst atrocity you may not dance anywhere you damn well please. Nope, not you.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:49 PM

–The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:41 PM–
Wow

WitchDoctor on July 13, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Love it

Its not meant to be funny people, or ironic…its a testament of the human spirit and the spirit of the Jewish people….that despite the horror of the almighty government ( Nazi is Socialism ) the Jews survived and thrived enough to thumb their nose.

Conservative Voice on July 13, 2010 at 5:49 PM

I would not dance at Ground Zero. Ever.

runner on July 13, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Breakdance?

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM

I’ll be the first to say it. This is crass and in bad taste. When will they come out with a Armenian, Rawanda or Sudanese genocide survival dance? My G-d! Go away and live your life in peace but go to Auschwitz and dance on the blood of the slain….???

flameofjudah on July 13, 2010 at 5:41 PM

You’re not the first to day it, but why would they come out with any other survival dances? The man is Jewish and specifically survived that specific camp.

If someone who barely escaped the World Trade Center wanted to go back and do a dance, I wouldn’t be offended. It’s not the same by a long shot (a few minutes of thinking you might die compared to years of feeling that way), but the feeling of survival is a beautiful one.

Please don’t pretend that this was not meant to get a laugh out of people, at a Nazi death camp.

Captain Kirock on July 13, 2010 at 5:41 PM

I’m pretending nothing. You’re projecting maybe, but I don’t see why a Holocaust survivor would want us to laugh at dead Jews.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM

“Love it, like it, or a little bit queasy?”

I liked it…

… Living well is always the best revenge.

Seven Percent Solution on July 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM

Awesome.

This man is telling Hitler and his ilk to F off. Hitler wanted to wipe them all out, and now this mans seed is dancing on the very grounds that was used to try and accomplish that goal.

What I have a problem with is at The Alamo in San Antonio Tx, Ripleys museum which is across the mall from the memorial, is blasting out “My Lady Hump” so that all who come to that somber memorial can be distracted by the Black Eyed Peas.

RobertInLexington on July 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM

Stop it old man!

You’re not allowed to do this.
The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Awesome strawman. So disapproval is tantamount to law where you come from?

WitchDoctor on July 13, 2010 at 5:51 PM

… Living well is always the best revenge.

Seven Percent Solution on July 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM

I LOVE that quote.

inviolet on July 13, 2010 at 5:51 PM

Personally speaking, dancing on graves and dancing at cemeteries are totally different in tone and intent.

I’ve read books, danced, skateboarded, done back flips and drank beer at a cemetery. Those are all activities I did in the past with those for whom I mourned.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Auschwitz,Pearl Harbor, and 9/11 sites are memorials/cemetaries because the acts that occurred to the victims were so big that the remains are scattered or unrecoverable. I’ve drank a beer, sung songs, & reflected at a cemetery, but memorial sites are different. The loss of life was so heinous and so unnatural that the site demands respect. It should get it.

portlandon on July 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM

WitchDoctor on July 13, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Nothing’s Shocking

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Ugh. I hate that place. In the Auschwitz SS book, there is an account of the trials they held there. It always amazed me that so many SS who worked there were lawyers. It’s the antithesis of justice. They wold send Poles arrested for minor infractions there. In the book was a transcript/account of a 15 year old boy tried for stealing food. Yeah, starving people tend to steal food. They had this fake trial with the boy being sentenced to be hanged immediately. But that wasn’t enough. The so called judge taunted the boy, kept asking as the boy sobbed, what his mother would think about her son being a common thief who had less than an hour to live, what did he think about having less than an hour to live.

I can’t reconcile such cruelties with people dancing around because they survived. He didn’t.

Blake on July 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM

The video could have started at Auschwitz to give us his background and then maybe he could have danced at Hitler’s bunker or the Eagle’s Nest or any other “Nazi” landmark. He could have even requested a copy of the blueprints that Germany just handed over to Israel and symbolically tore them/burned them etc.

That would be a video I would be happy to see go viral. This one makes me queasy.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 13, 2010 at 5:45 PM

But the gentleman didn’t survive Hitler’s bunker or the Eagle’s Nest, he survived here. He feared for his life and the future of his people here. And I think that for anyone here to tell him or his descendent’s how to celebrate that fact is absolutely horrible.

And I’m fairly certain that if the dead buried there could see that he managed to survived, and that his grandchildren can walk and even dance freely and without fear at what was meant to be the graves of the Jewish race, they would be dancing too.

29Victor on July 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM

In fact, I can’t really imagine what in this video was supposed to be the least bit funny.

29Victor on July 13, 2010 at 5:45 PM

Not intended to be funny? Really? Then watching 90 year old men dance to Gloria Gaynor songs from the ’70s must be a common occurrence for you. Not me.

Captain Kirock on July 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM

This video turns that symbolism on its head, and it doesn’t work for me.

ProfessorMiao on July 13, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Then maybe you’re not the intended audience. Not everyone even keeps that symbolism in mind when thinking about dancing and death.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM

It’s awkward; no doubt. Imagine what the guy must be thinking as he passes by them dancing at the gates and does a double take. It is uncomfortable even when I watch it a second time.

It is not however, in bad or poor taste. Again their message is good triumphed over evil. Innocent Life victored in face of unjust death. I cannot imagine a better cause for celebration.

The “where” is what’s difficult to get over with some. How about the very place where his victory was secured? Looking at it that way as opposed to where the horrors occured is also consistent with celebration and not misery.

Life won…

anuts on July 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM

L’Chaim.

exception on July 13, 2010 at 5:56 PM

How about some NYFD dancing where the Ground Zero mosque is refused?

Hening on July 13, 2010 at 5:57 PM

I have a question:

The video doesn’t pick up any bystanders. Did this family put in a special request to do this video? If so, why?

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 13, 2010 at 5:57 PM

portlandon on July 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Good point. Maybe an apt comparison would be a national moment of silence or something like that. Any disturbance during such an event would be seen as offensive.

But what do you do if the victim of the tragedy wants to make a scene…at that particular moment? I suspect that dead Holocaust victims would defer to the survivor rather than the national audience.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:57 PM

I think the idea behind this video is great. I don’t think the execution was there but awesome concept.

I know we’ve grown accustomed to victim groups wallowing in despair during 20th century America but it’s refreshing to see a favored victim group buck the trend and say “it ain’t keeping me down any longer!”

Bravo!! More favored groups should take this attitude and maybe we all wouldn’t be so hyper sensitive lately…

phadedjaded on July 13, 2010 at 5:57 PM

And I’m fairly certain that if the dead buried there could see that he managed to survived, and that his grandchildren can walk and even dance freely and without fear at what was meant to be the graves of the Jewish race, they would be dancing too.

29Victor on July 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM

That’s my impression too, that this dance is for all of them as well. It would be one thing if the Germans had won or if Nazism was still a real threat, but neither of those things are true.

How many Jews thought that not only their lives would be over but that Hitler would actually succeed in wiping out all Jews?

Not intended to be funny? Really? Then watching 90 year old men dance to Gloria Gaynor songs from the ’70s must be a common occurrence for you. Not me.

Captain Kirock on July 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Not everything old people do is meant to be funny.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 5:58 PM

One day you will realize that judging all Muslims by the actions of some extremists is unfair, prejudiced and bigoted.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:12 PM

HA HA HA! Rape Tard, you empty headed cracker hater. You should know your subject before you pronounce your “feelings” on something you are totally unqualified to speak on.

Good work on trying to stamp out racism at the Gay Olympics by the way.

BL@KBIRD on July 13, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Some things they will absolutely not tolerate at Auschwitz/Birekenau: Have sex on the ramp, do nazi salutes in Block 11, hold naked dances in Krema II, III, IV, and V — knock yourselves out. But they will not tolerate an Israeli F-16 flying over during a ceremony as a symbol of “Never again.” That is considered poor taste!

Blake on July 13, 2010 at 5:59 PM

How about some NYFD dancing where the Ground Zero mosque is refused?

Hening on July 13, 2010 at 5:57 PM

Esthier, do you see what I mean? There is a palpable anti-Muslim tilt that goes beyond calling out Muslim-extremists.

This is how it starts folks. You dabble then you dive. Some of you who are mildly anti-Muslim are on your way to being bonafide bigots…many joyfully so.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:00 PM

The survivor can do whatever the hell he wants at Auschwitz, including a little triumphant dancing with his grandkids.

I would not have made this choice, and I understand those who feel it in bad taste, but I will not judge this man, this family.

God Bless ‘em all.

Johnny 100 Pesos on July 13, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Uh, he and his grandkids are not the only people there. There are plenty of others who may not appreciate their antics. They should have shown some respect for them.

Blake on July 13, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Bust a move, Gramps. It’s all you.

jdfister on July 13, 2010 at 6:04 PM

There is a palpable anti-Muslim tilt that goes beyond calling out Muslim-extremists.

This is how it starts folks. You dabble then you dive. Some of you who are mildly anti-Muslim are on your way to being bonafide bigots…many joyfully so.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Did you have a point, Obama?

Jenfidel on July 13, 2010 at 6:05 PM

If that’s not the ultimate triumph over Nazi evil, I don’t know what is. I’d bet that every soul that died there at the Nazi’s hand are dancing along somewhere. And that’s coming from an agnostic.

oddjob1138 on July 13, 2010 at 6:05 PM

The loss of life was so heinous and so unnatural that the site demands respect. It should get it.

portlandon on July 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM

I’ve always wondered why people think silence is respectful, and enjoying life and all it has to offer is disrespectful.

Do you really think the dead demand our silence? I like to think they can take joy in our taking joy.

JohnGalt23 on July 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM

you empty headed cracker hater.

“Cracker-hater?” That’s a TOS violation for sure. You won’t be banned though. You will wear this as a badge of bigot-honor.

There is little difference between your words and calling me a “n*****-lover.” My family, friends, co-workers, colleagues, neighbors and church-members are mostly white. Regardless, that is offensive language. You would never say that to my face, never.

I’ve never accused anyone of anything based on their race. I’m ashamed for you and for Hot Air.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Esthier, do you see what I mean? There is a palpable anti-Muslim tilt that goes beyond calling out Muslim-extremists.

This is how it starts folks. You dabble then you dive. Some of you who are mildly anti-Muslim are on your way to being bonafide bigots…many joyfully so.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Maybe, but putting a mosque so close to Ground Zero, close enough that the building itself was damaged on 9/11, has cut people, and I don’t believe that necessarily has anything to do with their feelings about Muslims.

For plenty it does, I readily admit that, but bigots and non bigots are routinely lobbed together in this discussion undeservedly so.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 6:09 PM

“Cracker-hater?” That’s a TOS violation for sure.

How can you complain about others tolerating this type of attack-language when you don’t report it yourself?

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:10 PM

This video is wrong. Holocaust survivor going back and dancing (he is probably not the first survivor who ever did that) – that is not the problem. Posting it on the word wide web is wrong. Selfish and foolish – there are many, many people who morn and will not be amused by someone doing a little dance on the site of their parents and grandparents extermination.

runner on July 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM

One day you will realize that judging all Muslims by the actions of some extremists is unfair, prejudiced and bigoted.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 5:12 PM

It’s not just the extremists who believe that murdering and subduing infidels (Jews singled out, BTW)by jihad is OK, it’s the entire religion because it’s in the Koran and is a religious duty for all Muslims.

Islam is a false religion of evil and saying that doesn’t make me a bigot–it makes me an intelligent person who knows who our enemies are.

Adherents of Islam slaughtered 3,000 Americans in cold blood on 9/11.
Not extremists–just motivated Muslims fulfilling one of their religious duties.

Jenfidel on July 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM

This is how it starts folks. You dabble then you dive. Some of you who are mildly anti-Muslim are on your way to being bonafide bigots…many joyfully so.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Is it bigoted to seek an end to danger? Is it bigoted to warn of danger? Is it bigoted to seek to thwart danger? Is it bigoted to speak about danger? You can’t see the danger because you know nothing about it. All you can see are peoples reaction to learning of the danger and dub it bigoted because they don’t trust the carriers of the danger. Educate yourself on Islam and then lets see you delicately lick their sacks like you do now.

BL@KBIRD on July 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM

CELEBRATION! I liked it.
.
Good for you, Grampa! I bet it’s great to be around the grand kids and help them out with their crazy ideas, huh!?

ExpressoBold on July 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Maybe, but putting a mosque so close to Ground Zero, close enough that the building itself was damaged on 9/11, has cut people, and I don’t believe that necessarily has anything to do with their feelings about Muslims.

True, true.

But that’s just not enough of an excuse to justify the ugly rhetoric and tone that I detect. I don’t excuse alcoholics who drink to drown their sorrows and I don’t excuse bigots who bash to drown theirs.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Again their message is good triumphed over evil. Innocent Life victored in face of unjust death.

anuts on July 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Good triumphed over evil? Sorry, I see this totally different. 12 million people, including millions of children, were slaughtered in giant factories of death, most at the hands of their fellow prisoners. Their bodies were then ripped apart for resources before being incinerated. Good triumphed over evil? No, evil won this one.

Captain Kirock on July 13, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Sorry. Total bummer. More than a little queasy.

obleo on July 13, 2010 at 6:16 PM

But that’s just not enough of an excuse to justify the ugly rhetoric and tone that I detect. I don’t excuse alcoholics who drink to drown their sorrows and I don’t excuse bigots who bash to drown theirs.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Stop it!
You can cut Islam and Muslims a “diversity” pass when they stop their bigoted jihad against Christians, Jews and women!
The way their “religion” treats most people is criminal or should be.

Jenfidel on July 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM

“Cracker-hater?” That’s a TOS violation for sure.

How can you complain about others tolerating this type of attack-language when you don’t report it yourself?

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Good question Rape Tard. How do you feel about rape victims too frightened and shocked to report it to the police right away?

BL@KBIRD on July 13, 2010 at 6:19 PM

I would find this more assuming if American Jewry took the Iranian threat more seriously, rather then have a deer in the headlights moment.

It just like Inglorious Bastards, it didn’t do anything for me, like it did for so many fellow Jews. Yeah, its great we can get our rocks off on this movie, but with a real threat out there, America Jews don’t want to stir the boat.

Final verdict: Not angry, just sad, very sad.

Lance Murdock on July 13, 2010 at 6:20 PM

The way their “religion” treats most people is criminal or should be.

Jenfidel on July 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Let’s be sure we know our enemy. That is..if you wish to survive.

obleo on July 13, 2010 at 6:20 PM

But that’s just not enough of an excuse to justify the ugly rhetoric and tone that I detect. I don’t excuse alcoholics who drink to drown their sorrows and I don’t excuse bigots who bash to drown theirs.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM

I agree, but you and I might be seeing different things in the comments. Maybe I’m willfully not paying attention, but I try to be slow to call people out for bigotry, if only because it happens to often in politics.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 6:22 PM

A solid B+.

I would have given them an A+ if they had been wearing Nazi regalia.

Ars Moriendi on July 13, 2010 at 6:22 PM

All you can see are peoples reaction to learning of the danger and dub it bigoted because they don’t trust the carriers of the danger. Educate yourself on Islam and then lets see you delicately lick their sacks like you do now.

BL@KBIRD on July 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Thanks BB for that. Nothing you’ve said about Muslims has not been said about other scary people. It is nice for you to explain how you arrived at such profoundly bigoted beliefs.

What is your solution for then? What do we do with all these threats otherwise known as Muslim-Americans?

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:23 PM

No, evil won this one.

Captain Kirock on July 13, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Way to pessimistic, man. You really do need to cheer up a little. Hitler is dead, by his own hand no less because he knew what would come. And Nazis are done for, at least in that incarnation.

We’re not speaking in German. We’re not even affraid of the Germans, at all.

Good did win. It sounds like you really need that reminder.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Man’s brutality to man has diminished us all. Simple acts of kindness help scrub away the stain.

obleo on July 13, 2010 at 6:25 PM

I wouldn’t dance at Auschwitz, but I certainly won’t begrudge this man.

I’m sure he’d as soon dance on Hitler’s grave, if it wasn’t in some undisclosed location in Argentina.

notropis on July 13, 2010 at 6:25 PM

But that’s just not enough of an excuse to justify the ugly rhetoric and tone that I detect. I don’t excuse alcoholics who drink to drown their sorrows and I don’t excuse bigots who bash to drown theirs.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Here’s something which may be helpful if you truly consider it: there is a demonstrable history of ‘detecting’ that which isn’t there. This is especially true when counter rhetoric manifests itself into words like bigot. The highly superfluous term has limited use without proper context.

bigotry-stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one’s own.

anuts on July 13, 2010 at 6:25 PM

Jenfidel on July 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Jen, you should stop, really.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 6:25 PM

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 6:22 PM

I totally get you. You are measured and considerate.

Regarding bigotry, I just think that we’ve coddled the bigots in the party for too long. It’s going to be painful to eject them, especially with so many good-Republicans clinging to them for fear that they too will be cast as “racist.”

As soon as conservatives use an equal scope to detect bigotry from the right as from the left things will be peachy. Until then, liars get the liars treatment even when they’re lying to themselves.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:25 PM

Another thought: Some (myself included) wanted to rebuild the Twin Towers 100 feet taller than the original, and resembling a raised middle finger.

This man’s dance seems to me to be in the same vein.

notropis on July 13, 2010 at 6:28 PM

Having toured Auschwitz while in the army…….

I can see the man enjoying the moment and the place with his grandchildren. Sort of like ‘dancing in the face of death’.

I don’t think the venue would be appropriate for Madonna or Lady Gaga.

GarandFan on July 13, 2010 at 6:28 PM

GarandFan on July 13, 2010 at 6:28 PM

That’s what I was trying to say.

You said it way better. Thanks.

notropis on July 13, 2010 at 6:30 PM

I definitely liked the IAF flyover better, but this man has the right to do this, and I’m happy to see him celebrating however he sees fit.

illustro on July 13, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Good triumphed over evil? Sorry, I see this totally different. 12 million people, including millions of children, were slaughtered in giant factories of death, most at the hands of their fellow prisoners. Their bodies were then ripped apart for resources before being incinerated. Good triumphed over evil? No, evil won this one.

Captain Kirock on July 13, 2010 at 6:15 PM

By virtue of grandpa dancing in this very video, his life won. By virtue of being with his grandkids in said video, his progeny triumphed. Evil’s intentions were to have this man and his subsequent offspring eradicated. He is still alive. Nazi Germany is dead.

anuts on July 13, 2010 at 6:31 PM

What is your solution for then? What do we do with all these threats otherwise known as Muslim-Americans?

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Well grasshopper, first you educate yourself on what drives your enemies. When you understand that, you will recognize what things mean when they happen. And you can then take an accurate stance on protecting your civilization. Really Race Card, try teaching yourself something about those you defend blindly. Until then I can’t take your silly self seriously. Being a Junior Jesse Jackson is no way to go through life.

BL@KBIRD on July 13, 2010 at 6:32 PM

Good triumphed over evil? No, evil won this one.

Captain Kirock on July 13, 2010 at 6:15 PM

No, the Jews as a People survived. The Nazis were going for full extermination…and they FAILED! Millions were killed, yes, and we all mourn them – as I know this man does. But what is so wrong about a man celebrating the fact that not only he survived, his family survived and the Jewish People still thrive.

Don’t be such a pessimist. It’s sad, yes. We all recognize the unbelievable loss of life…but the celebration of survival is still uplifting as far as I’m concerned. It wasn’t TOTAL loss. And if you told those folks that died there, that Jews would survive and thrive throughout the world – I bet you THEY’D be celebrating with this man and his progeny too.

This made me happy. And yes, I believe in dancing in cemeteries. And photographing them…and enjoying their peace. Life is a celebration…or what’s the point?

tickleddragon on July 13, 2010 at 6:32 PM

watching this, i cried tears of joy for this man and his grandchildren.

and for the jewish people.

reliapundit on July 13, 2010 at 6:33 PM

No matter what angle: BAD FORM!

faol on July 13, 2010 at 6:34 PM

GarandFan on July 13, 2010 at 6:28 PM

notropis on July 13, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Good analogy; both.

anuts on July 13, 2010 at 6:35 PM

I can not think of a better way for a survivor to say, “God breaks through gates of bronze and bars of iron,” than to dance with his progeny at the former site of his impending death.

That was deep and profound.

LEBA on July 13, 2010 at 6:37 PM

As soon as conservatives use an equal scope to detect bigotry from the right as from the left things will be peachy. Until then, liars get the liars treatment even when they’re lying to themselves.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:25 PM

I generally agree with this, but I think we disagree on its impact. Republicans do call out other Republican bigots, I’d argue even more the Democrats if only because it’s understood we have a credibility issue here, and they don’t (you could argue that it’s also because we have a greater percentage – I don’t know but hope that isn’t true). But furthermore, the Democrats have media outlets willing to lie for them, to invent stories of bigotry with Rs and suppress stories of actual bigotry from Ds.

I don’t think we can have any credibility whatsoever as a party if we don’t clean house internally, but I also believe that our credibility will be further reduced if we try to combat the problem as a policy, thereby exposing it further.

I’ve just never enjoyed the presumption of guilt on this issue just for voting my conscience, and I understand the temptation to brush this issue aside so that we can be taken seriously instead.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 6:37 PM

Exit question: Love it, like it, or a little bit queasy?

It’s not a question of love it, like it, or whatever. It is what it is. The grandfather earned the right to do whatever her wants at Hitler’s death camps. God bless him.

The only thing that makes me queasy is the possibility that the younger generation folks in this video are supporting in some way the politicians and movements who could lead to a return of this sort of thing. (I’m looking at you, Democrat party.)

I wish they had used the video to provide more educational information about the Holocaust.

Y-not on July 13, 2010 at 6:37 PM

Way to pessimistic, man. You really do need to cheer up a little. Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Captain Kirock on July 13, 2010 at 6:38 PM

Well grasshopper, first you educate yourself on what drives your enemies. When you understand that, you will recognize what things mean when they happen. …
BL@KBIRD on July 13, 2010 at 6:32 PM

That’s a solution?

Really Race Card, try teaching yourself something about those you defend blindly

I’d rather be accused of defending Muslims than proved to be bigoted against them. You simply hate more than you care to be fair.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:39 PM

anuts on July 13, 2010 at 6:25 PM

Explain this what does portraying Obama as a witch doctor convey? Do you remember how many Hotairheads wrote that

off as simply “funny?” What about watermelons on the White House Lawn? What about “Half-Breed Muslin” and “niggar?”

Those “jokes” were all excused widely by Hotairheads. There are many, many other such events that get completely

ignored by AP and ED because the intended victim is not on the right.

Again, it’s nice to see Hotairheads actually get excised about bigotry as in the case of NBPP and Nikki Haley. It

will be nice when similar considerations are given to conservative offenders, like Robert Stacy McCain.

The Race Card on July 13, 2010 at 6:40 PM

What the heck do Muslims have to do with this thread about a Holocaust survivor dancing at concentration camps??

tickleddragon on July 13, 2010 at 6:41 PM

Way to pessimistic, man. You really do need to cheer up a little. Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Are you seriously telling me to cheer up about Auschwitz? 60 million people died in WWII. It was one of the greatest calamities in the history of man and you’re telling me to lighten up?

Captain Kirock on July 13, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Beautiful, simply beautiful! I almost cried.

I would suggest to those who didn’t like this, to lighten up. This is video of dancing and joy despite the horror.

thuja on July 13, 2010 at 6:43 PM

What the heck do Muslims have to do with this thread about a Holocaust survivor dancing at concentration camps??

tickleddragon on July 13, 2010 at 6:41 PM

AP’s analogy.

Esthier on July 13, 2010 at 6:43 PM

Before I watched it, I was feeling a little queasy. But then, I really got into it. You go, Gramps!

Emily M. on July 13, 2010 at 6:43 PM

tickleddragon on July 13, 2010 at 6:32 PM

Survive? Yes. Thriving? I don’t know. Didn’t we just have a post/headline about declining Jewish populations in places that used to have larger Jewish centers? Jews leaving Switzerland, other locales of Europe, places in Africa?

Hitler and the Nazis may have lost in 45 but sadly their ideas live on in people like A-jad and others.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 13, 2010 at 6:43 PM

Its beautiful. A survivor returns to his ground zero in which despite all the odds against him, he survived. Not only did he survive, but he married and had children in which they had more children, and people say there are no miracles. He then takes his grandchildren to Auschwitz to teach them a little family and world history.

Life was miserable, we never had enough to eat, and it was extremely cold. Death was our neighbor. But Grandfather, what kept you going, how did you manage those long hours in despair.

Grandfather: “We prayed, and then we danced. My mother danced with me in her arms, telling me not to despair, that in God, hope lives.”

PrettyD_Vicious on July 13, 2010 at 6:45 PM

This made me uncomfortable, that’s the only way I can describe it.
This gentleman certainly has much to celebrate and it’s wonderful that he’s able to go back there and dance with his grandchildren. On the other hand, I feel it’s inappropriate to dance where so many suffered horrible atrocities. But who am I to judge a man who suffered through those atrocities and in his joy at being alive decides to dance there? I understand it, but dancing on a swastika might have been more appropriate.

MichelleC on July 13, 2010 at 6:45 PM

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