Dem governors wonder: This immigration lawsuit against Arizona is sort of insane, isn’t it?

posted at 8:58 pm on July 12, 2010 by Allahpundit

Naturally I want to agree, but wouldn’t it also be arguably insane for The One to flip his base the bird and declare that he isn’t going to do anything for them this year on immigration? We’re forever trapped in this rough calculus of trying to determine whether pursuing policy X will please more liberals than it will alienate centrists; presumably Obama think that his support for comprehensive reform and antipathy to Arizona’s law is sufficiently well known that he’s already pissed off everyone he’s going to piss off, in which case why not do something for the O-bots in hopes that it’ll goose turnout in the midterms? It’s not a crazy assumption — although it sure is interesting that a lot of people in his party seem to think that it is.

Look on the bright side, Democrats: Unlike so many other terrible Obama ideas, at least this one isn’t waiting to explode in your face a few years down the road.

At the Democrats’ meeting on Saturday, some governors bemoaned the timing of the Justice Department lawsuit, according to two governors who spoke anonymously because the discussion was private.

“Universally the governors are saying, ‘We’ve got to talk about jobs,’ ” Gov. Phil Bredesen of Tennessee, a Democrat, said in an interview. “And all of a sudden we have immigration going on.”…

“I might have chosen both a different tack and a different time,” said Gov. Bill Ritter Jr. of Colorado, a Democrat who was facing a tough fight for re-election and pulled out of the race earlier this year. “This is an issue that divides us politically, and I’m hopeful that their strategy doesn’t do that in a way that makes it more difficult for candidates to get elected, particularly in the West.”…

Mr. Bredesen said that in Tennessee, where the governor’s race will be tight this year, Democratic candidates were already on the defensive about the federal health care overhaul, and the suit against Arizona further weakened them. In Tennessee, he said, Democratic candidates are already “disavowing” the immigration lawsuit.

MKH notes that fully 12 gubernatorial races are toss-ups at the moment. Here’s the real issue Dem dissidents should be focused on but aren’t: Why would the DOJ sue now, on grounds that federal law preempts state enforcement — which plays right into public worries about Obama’s intrusive centralized government dictating to the states — rather than wait until the law goes into effect this month and then sue if/when there’s some sort of incident involving the cops using racial profiling? That’d be more popular politically, especially if the profiling involved a U.S. citizen. In fact, here’s Bob Schieffer asking Holder that very question; his answer, natch, is they might sue again in that circumstance. Skip ahead to 6:45.


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Why would the DOJ sue now, on grounds that federal law preempts state enforcement — which plays right into public worries about Obama’s intrusive centralized government dictating to the states — rather than wait until the law goes into effect this month and then sue if/when there’s some sort of incident involving the cops using racial profiling?

Because it’s all about kneeling before Zod.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 12, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Sweet, sweet centrism.

artist on July 12, 2010 at 9:02 PM

I’m sure I’m late on this but, Welcome back AP. The place isn’t the same without you.

TheBigOldDog on July 12, 2010 at 9:04 PM

In fact, here’s Bob Schieffer asking Holder that very question; his answer, natch, is they might sue again in that circumstance.

Of course that’s his answer. I wonder if his fool hardy actions and advice affect Obama’s decisions. That WH has suicidal tendencies. Or: Nobody is going to tell me what do do!! I’m the Prez. Welcome back AP. I hope your vacation was fun and refreshing.

jeanie on July 12, 2010 at 9:05 PM

Geo Soros and John Podesta must not have thought this one thru.

reshas1 on July 12, 2010 at 9:06 PM

When you decide ideology trumps everything, if we can only get enough illegal immigrants to vote, presto Hugo Chavez. Just think what we could do with all the undocumented Democrats.

Are the Democrats trying to recapture the party of slavery, is that their goal?

tarpon on July 12, 2010 at 9:06 PM

The neat thing about insanity is that the insane person doesn’t know.

Which in this situation means that Jug Ears will continue flying closer and closer to the sun, ignoring the feathers falling off.

In the end, he will resemble a plucked chicken. And millions will weep with joy.

platypus on July 12, 2010 at 9:06 PM

Does Bob Schieffer even KNOW what the law is? Or is he repeating lies about the law on purpose?

GarandFan on July 12, 2010 at 9:07 PM

The Obama administration’s lawsuit against Arizona is tantamount to a claim by them that states have no right to enforce any laws that Obama personally does not want enforced. It is as simple as that.

This goes way beyond dereliction of duty on Obama’s part. It is an assertion that he, like King George III, Hitler and Mussolini, is above the law.

So here in America we have a thing which for over 200 years has been most foreign to it and out of place, the delivery of our rights into a tyrant’s keeping.

Tav on July 12, 2010 at 9:08 PM

As Kris Kobach noted this is about the Obama Admin. simply going after the hispanic vote. There are already plenty of lawsuits on the matter.

CWforFreedom on July 12, 2010 at 9:13 PM

It must be that the dimocratic governors are racists!!!

Dingbat63 on July 12, 2010 at 9:13 PM

MKH notes that fully 12 gubernatorial races are toss-ups at the moment.

Election Projection is already predicting that Republicans will pick up 8 additional govenorships this November, giving them 32.

Tav on July 12, 2010 at 9:13 PM

Welcome back AP! You picked a great week for vaca. Hope you got out of town; it was hotter than hell here.

IrishEi on July 12, 2010 at 9:16 PM

They’re just pandering. That’s all.

SouthernGent on July 12, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Keep up the good work, Barry! You deserve another round of golf for your effort. If you keep going at this rate, the GOP will win every elected office in the U.S. Well done.

Philly on July 12, 2010 at 9:18 PM

presumably Obama think that his support for comprehensive reform and antipathy to Arizona’s law is sufficiently well known that he’s already pissed off everyone he’s going to piss off, in which case why not do something for the O-bots in hopes that it’ll goose turnout in the midterms?

Why not, indeed? It’s really just shadow boxing at this point. The economy will kill the Dems anyway.

But here’s another take…and it’s crazy delicious. I know others have thrown it around before, but given his almost universal impulse to push policies that the majority hates, I think he really wants the Republicans to win.

I think this goofball is trying for the Clinton replay.

He wants to run against the Congressional GOP in 2012. It’s his only hope. He wants the Dem majority in congress gone ASAP. They aren’t helping him in any way. Even with complete control of congress, he can’t get anything through now.

It’s all about him…women and children?…too bad, so sad…Obama must survive!

AUINSC on July 12, 2010 at 9:18 PM

…in which case why not do something for the O-bots in hopes that it’ll goose turnout in the midterms?

Which is worse:
1) Not doing something that the base which is already PO’d about?

2) Doing something that won’t work which will PO the base more than it is already PO’d?

Obama & Co. are SOS: Stuck on Stupid.

They have only themselves to blame for what comes next.

ajacksonian on July 12, 2010 at 9:21 PM

Election Projection is already predicting that Republicans will pick up 8 additional govenorships this November, giving them 32.

Might come in handy to veto gerrymandered congressional districts when they’re redrawn after this year’s Census.

The Monster on July 12, 2010 at 9:27 PM

Naturally I want to agree, but wouldn’t it also be arguably insane for The One to flip his base the bird and declare that he isn’t going to do anything for them this year on immigration?

Like beatey, insanity is in the eye of the beholder.

Obama and his controllers have only their own self interest at heart and will blissfully drag America down into the abyss to accomplish their goals.

Tav on July 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM

Like beatey beauty, insanity is in the eye of the beholder.

Tav on July 12, 2010 at 9:30 PM

THis is off topic but I really have to wonder what in the hell is going on with the Governers and the ones that want to be govenors, seems that Obama has tossed them under the bus, that being said I was given this link about the wanna be gov of ca , I voted for meg wittman because I saw an add that she claimed she was for the AZ imigration law. Great
NOW I see this !!!!
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/meg-whitmans-spanish-ad-she-opposes-arizonas-immigration-law-video.php
I speak spanish , YES its translated properly.

I called her office no responce!
I wont vote for her now, so I guess jerry moonbeam brown is going to get in . I will write my own name in.

I wanted to beleive that there was a new brand of politicans running for office, I sure in the hell hope that there are , I just know that meg wittman isnt one of them.
SOS .

ColdWarrior57 on July 12, 2010 at 9:31 PM

Allah, did you fall in a well?

faraway on July 12, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Hickory, dickory, dock
Obama’s lawsuit is nothing but another crock
The wheels have come undone
Now he’s naked out in the Arizona sun
Democrats are going down
If they follow this evil clown

Cheshire Cat on July 12, 2010 at 9:37 PM

Obama and dems want all Americans to sit down and STFU while they court the next voting block.

meMC on July 12, 2010 at 9:39 PM

I’m now convinced that all Holder is ever going to do is sh*t and fall back in it.

SlaveDog on July 12, 2010 at 9:42 PM

No, actually it’s just an artifact of an insane and incompetent administration.

rplat on July 12, 2010 at 9:46 PM

The other day, a newbie tennis buddy of mine asked me to teach him how to serve better… When you watch it done by a pro, it looks simple and easy. While I’m no pro, I’ve got a 100+ MPH serve at 59 yrs… It’s easy, I told him, you just do this, and this, and this, and well… this too, then this, and that, plus here’s how you start, here’s how you hold your racket, ….

After that failed, (I’m no instructor), decided to break it down to one or two things at a time… Finally, I started to get results… If life as a President were so easy, Obama would be on top of the world….

drfredc on July 12, 2010 at 9:48 PM

wouldn’t it also be arguably insane for The One to flip his base the bird and declare that he isn’t going to do anything for them this year on immigration?

He’s had an overwhelmingly Dem Congress for a year & a half & hasn’t done anything for them yet.
Obama only wants this as a campaign issue. He doesn’t care about immigration.

itsnotaboutme on July 12, 2010 at 9:49 PM

Why would the DOJ sue now, on grounds that federal law preempts state enforcement — which plays right into public worries about Obama’s intrusive centralized government dictating to the states — rather than wait until the law goes into effect this month

Wait? Wait? Awww c’mon….when you have an issue to falsify and demagogue at hand, then get about it skippy! There’s organizin’ to do..

ted c on July 12, 2010 at 9:52 PM

66 seats in November.

Inanemergencydial on July 12, 2010 at 9:53 PM

proving that liberalism really is a mental disorder

skanter on July 12, 2010 at 10:04 PM

Unfortunately, when we run Barry out of Dodge, he will continue to live like a king.

mobydutch on July 12, 2010 at 10:21 PM

Universally the governors are saying, ‘We’ve got to talk about jobs,’ ” Gov. Phil Bredesen of Tennessee, a Democrat, said in an interview. “And all of a sudden we have immigration going on.”…

Democrats are cowards when it comes to talking about jobs/economy; they even refused to pass a budget. They’ve been in majority since 2006. November is Send a Dem Home month.

Welcome back, AP! You were missed :)

TN Mom on July 12, 2010 at 10:29 PM

Obama only wants this as a campaign issue. He doesn’t care about immigration.

itsnotaboutme on July 12, 2010 at 9:49 PM

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Agreed.

RalphyBoy on July 12, 2010 at 10:31 PM

Has a president ever sued his own freaking country before? I just can’t believe I’m watching this happen.

rollthedice on July 12, 2010 at 10:38 PM

This will blow up in their faces NOW. Remember the outrage over maverick’s attempt at amnesty? People have long memories.

dogsoldier on July 12, 2010 at 11:00 PM

Are the Democrats trying to recapture the party of slavery, is that their goal?

tarpon on July 12, 2010 at 9:06 PM

Recapture would imply that they ever stopped being the party of slavery to begin with.

They haven’t. The plantation has simply shifted from the cotton fields of the antebellum South to the inner cities and union shops and barrios, where the Dems have discovered not only a way to preserve slavery, but expand it to include whites and Mexicans.

SuperCool on July 12, 2010 at 11:17 PM

I don’t see how they call the Tennessee governor’s race tight, 90% of voters don’t even know who the democrat is. Tight between Ron Ramsey and Bill Haslam maybe, but the D is the son of a former Dem governor and he hasn’t even spent 100K yet.

Mini-14 on July 12, 2010 at 11:25 PM

Why would the DOJ sue now, on grounds that federal law preempts state enforcement — which plays right into public worries about Obama’s intrusive centralized government dictating to the states …etc?

Because Hillary forced them into it. Masterfully done, Madame Secretary! She has no particular reason to love this Administration. By making her matter-of-fact comment to the Ecuadorian press, she forced the Administration to either put up or shut up. She forced them to either:
1) Deny that they’re going to file a suit, which makes Holder look like an idiot with all his threats and his mouthing off on the topic; or
2) File the suit, and hope that some judge somewhere will find something of merit in it. (That’s all the fig leaf that they really need.)

Notice how Holder has suddenly gotten very cautious about the racial aspect that he had been so pompous about for the past two months.

I say again: masterfully done, Madame Secretary.

ss396 on July 12, 2010 at 11:26 PM

Why would the DOJ sue now, on grounds that federal law preempts state enforcement — which plays right into public worries about Obama’s intrusive centralized government dictating to the states — rather than wait until the law goes into effect this month and then sue if/when there’s some sort of incident involving the cops using racial profiling?

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I heard someone this morning, I believe it was Peter Johnson on Fox, discuss this very subject.
Something about this being their only chance, slim as it is, as any allegations of ‘racism’ or ‘profiling’ after the law goes into effect will only bring charges against the “rogue” cop.
The law itself will not be “racist”, as it specifically prohibits this behavior, but the indvidual officer will be guilty of breaking said law.

mrt721 on July 12, 2010 at 11:31 PM

I don’t see how they call the Tennessee governor’s race tight, 90% of voters don’t even know who the democrat is. Tight between Ron Ramsey and Bill Haslam maybe, but the D is the son of a former Dem governor and he hasn’t even spent 100K yet.

Mini-14 on July 12, 2010 at 11:25 PM

Lots of Democrat voters unhappy that Obama didn’t visit in person nor even speak publicly when floods devastated Tennessee on May 1st this year. Also, counties state-wide have been purging dead voters as well as voters who moved out of state. When the GOP took over the state leglislator this year, they purged over 10,000 ineligible voters. Tough time for Dems. Pity ;)

TN Mom on July 12, 2010 at 11:37 PM

Obama is all about Obama. He’s more concerned about turnout for congressional races this year than the Governors, but he really only cares about congressional Democrats to the extent they help HIM. He’s building – he hopes – a bigger base in the Hispanic community to replace the young people he knows he will probably not be able to excite as much in 2012 after they’ve spent four years with his policies.
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This is also why he is considering a blanket pardon for all illegals. Presidential pardon authority is supreme, so there is no way to stop him or reverse the decision. However, the pardon power doesn’t include future offenses, and cannot overturn the law itself or hasten voting rights for the pardoned.

Adjoran on July 13, 2010 at 5:47 AM

dear leader is good at flipping the bird to anyone that doesn’t like his ways…

cmsinaz on July 13, 2010 at 6:00 AM

why now?

H I S P A N I C V O T E

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never mind the ‘sacntuary cities’ or RI and other cities doing something similar already…

cmsinaz on July 13, 2010 at 6:02 AM

wouldn’t it also be arguably insane for The One to flip his base the bird and declare that he isn’t going to do anything for them this year on immigration?

He’s already flipped them the bird. He didn’t do anything on immigration when he had the votes; now all he’s doing is posturing. He knows the lawsuit is a waste of time and taxpayer money (what does he care, since wasting taxpayer money is his raison d’etre); it’s all for show.

If hispanics and open-borders lefties are dumb enough to fall for Barry’s theatrics, then they deserve all the nothing they’re getting from this fraud.

AZCoyote on July 13, 2010 at 6:26 AM

If hispanics and open-borders lefties are dumb enough to fall for Barry’s theatrics, then they deserve all the nothing they’re getting from this fraud.

AZCoyote on July 13, 2010 at 6:26 AM

amen!

cmsinaz on July 13, 2010 at 6:35 AM

66 seats in November.

Inanemergencydial on July 12, 2010 at 9:53 PM

Yep. And though it’s only mid-July, posts like this make me hanker for crisp mornings, colorful leaves, and college football.

Oh, and elections. :-)

Grace_is_sufficient on July 13, 2010 at 7:08 AM

MKH notes that fully 12 gubernatorial races are toss-ups at the moment.

The real issue is in how the GOP doesn’t seem able to seal the deal in any of these races.

southsideironworks on July 13, 2010 at 8:51 AM

NEWS FLASH

This just in.

Dems just now realize the Emperor has no clothes on!!

skatz51 on July 13, 2010 at 9:03 AM

The real issue is in how the GOP doesn’t seem able to seal the deal in any of these races.

southsideironworks on July 13, 2010 at 8:51 AM

You do know that the elections have not taken place…so there are no “seal the deal” until after the election.
These 12 are toss-ups because they heavily favored dem just a few months ago.
Governors races may be more important then the Senate races.

right2bright on July 13, 2010 at 9:19 AM

65% of legal Hispanics agree with the Arizona law. So Obama is going against those voters as well. I don’t see anything other than a huge voter drive for people that have proven to be criminals.

jukin on July 13, 2010 at 9:48 AM