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posted at 9:00 pm on July 10, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
The Arizona governor, seemingly determined to repel every last tourist dollar from her pariah state, has sounded a new alarm about border violence. “Our law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert either buried or just lying out there that have been beheaded,” she announced on local television.
Ay, caramba! Those dark-skinned foreigners are now severing the heads of fair-haired Americans? Maybe they’re also scalping them or shrinking them or putting them on a spike.
But those in fear of losing parts north of the neckline can relax. There’s not a follicle of evidence to support Brewer’s claim.
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“The Santa Cruz County Sheriff’s Office was notified and they took possession of the head on that same date. We suspect that the head may have been placed along side the trail as a warning to other drug and alien traffickers using the trail.”
A spokesman for Rep. Bishop told me they had confirmed the details of the incident described by Lowell.
Curious, I contacted Lowell and asked him if he was willing to talk to Milbank. Here’s what Lowell said:
“I would be happy to talk to Dana Milbank and, in fact, I would like to invite him to a picnic. We could walk a mile or so up Peck Canyon from the Atascosa Ranch headquarters past where the body was found, which is being autopsied to the place where five (or more) innocent Mexicans (who claim they had broken only a few Federal laws) were fired on about two weeks ago by gentlemen in black camo shooting AK 47’s,” he said.
Lowell added that “there’s been one other shooting incident seven days ago in about the same place. We will supply the weenies and potato salad but Dana will have to walk about 200 yards ahead.” (via Fausta Wertz)
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Associated Press state and local wire, July 7, 2009 (purchased through Lexis-Nexis, emphasis mine):
(PHOENIX) State police, members of Phoenix police and federal immigration agents busted two suspected drop houses in west Phoenix rescuing 13 people and arresting 15 suspected smugglers.
Police began moving on one drop house Sunday after ransom demands were issued.
A woman said captors held her boyfriend since June 26th and threatened to beat and behead him if they weren’t paid a $3,000 ransom.
Police found the drop house and arrested seven suspected human smugglers Monday. A second west Phoenix drop house found Monday led to 15 people.
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After decades of anti-pot campaigns, from Reefer Madness to zero tolerance, so many Americans choose to smoke marijuana that the Mexican cartels have become an international threat to law and order.
Instead of paying taxes on their vice, pot smokers are enriching thugs and murderers.
“People who smoke pot in the United States don’t think they are connected to the cartels,” Brown says. “Actually, they are very connected.”
American drug users help sharpen the knives that cartel henchmen use to behead their enemies and terrorize Mexican border towns.
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A shootout that left 21 people dead and six wounded on the road last week is the most gruesome sign that a relatively tranquil pocket of northern Mexico quickly is turning into a hotbed of drug-fueled violence on Arizona’s doorstep. The violence in recent months is grist for supporters of the state’s tough new law against illegal immigration. They are eager to portray the border as a lawless battlefield of smugglers both of drugs and humans.
Nogales, the main city in the region, which shares a border with the Arizona city of the same name, has had 131 murders so far this year, nearly surpassing 135 for all of 2009, according to a tally by the newspaper Diario de Sonora. That includes two heads found Thursday stuffed side-by-side between the bars of a cemetery fence.
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Tony Estrada, sheriff of Santa Cruz County, Arizona, said the killings were very troubling amid concerns that drug violence could spill over the border, but he believes Mexico’s drug traffickers don’t want to tangle with U.S. authorities.
“Their turf wars are on the Mexican side right now, and that’s where they’re concentrating all of their violence,” Estrada said. “And we’re hopeful that’s where it will stay.”
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Wow. That’s a lot of murders in Nogales. Of course it’s nothing compared to the murders in Ciudad Juarez. One accounting says the number is as high as 1,986. Just recently the city hall in El Paso (the Rio Grande isn’t that wide when it goes through the city) was hit by stray gunfire from an incident across the border.
Something like 7 people a day are being murdered there, all thanks to a turf war between drug gangs. This situation has become so dangerous that officials who are shot and wounded in Juarez are brought across the border into El Paso to be hospitalized because they won’t survive long in a Mexican hospital. Gee, isn’t that great? How long will it be before the hit men cross the border with the thousands who do every day to shop, work, etc., and walk into an American hospital and kill American citizens while trying to finish the job they were hired to do?
“Their turf wars are on the Mexican side right now, and that’s where they’re concentrating all of their violence,” Estrada said. “And we’re hopeful that’s where it will stay.”
Huh. I hope ya’ll have better luck with that than El Paso has.
Of course, here in New Mexico, not far from El Paso, our governor wants us to be more understanding of the tragic lives illegals live and how much they suffer while trying to grab their piece of the American dream.
Somehow I feel like the folks in charge don’t understand the problem. See, they’re still seeing all of these folks as innocent, misunderstood immigrants, trudging their way to the land of milk and honey. Granted, there are plenty who fit that description.
But there are far more who do not. Sorta like that 14 year old who was shot by border agents. The libbies freaked, screaming about injustice and the murder of innocents. Until they found out the kid was in the top most wanted smugglers in the region. Then they got realllll quiet. Isn’t that interesting?
Mad Mad Monica on July 10, 2010 at 11:05 PM
As a libertarian/fiscal conservative I am all for loosing our draconian drug laws and legalizing and taxing the sale of marijuana in a way similar to the way we regulate alcohol.
As much as I am attracted to the tea party, the Sarah Palins and other social conservatives will not bend on their war against drugs. Drugs other than alcohol, that is.
Seriously folks, is this country didn’t just de-criminalize marijuana but legalized it, much of the border violence would disappear, and the power of the mexican drug cartels would be greatly lessened.
Dr.Gills on July 10, 2010 at 11:10 PM
We have another country issuing its own IDs to its citizens ( and anyone who can pay) who are illegally present in our country and living as parasites
on our public assistance programs.
Instead of dancing to Calderon’s and Vincente Fox’s tunes , if our government had taken care of our interests, we would not be heading to a 3rd world downslide.
macncheez on July 10, 2010 at 10:55 PM
macncheez:I do not like this New America that the Progressi
ves are busy trying to forge,and your right,if
this isn’t controlled soon,every State,will be in
fested with Mech E Cans,right on up to our sisters
border,Michigan!!
Btw,we need a passport or Nexus card to enter
Michigan,and rightly so!!:)
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Additional Information on crossing the International Bridge
http://www.saultstemarie.com/frequently–asked-questions–89/
canopfor on July 10, 2010 at 11:10 PM
Just wondering if Dana if he has kids, sends them to public schools. Probably not unless he lives in Virginia. People like him always judge from afar. Another snob liberal living in the safe neighborhood.
Hummer53 on July 10, 2010 at 11:11 PM
I never thought of it that someone pays someone to smuggler them in to Arizona. But once they are in the US go from being a smuggled to a captive and if the family does not pony up more money they become a head on the side of the road.
One would think this system will not last but there are 10 or more people willing to take the role of the head just to get to America to be stuck as a slave that the is indebted to the smuggler for life.
tjexcite on July 10, 2010 at 11:20 PM
My cousin, who works for (fed) LEA once called me an idiot for suggesting that both US and mehican politicians want to leave our borders unsecured to keep the illegals and drugs flowing into the US. I was an idiot because as I was explained, US and mehican politicians want to leave the border unprotected for muslim terrorists. Cayotes earn 10 to 50 times more from every muslim than a mexican/central american , they bring into the US. Muslims crossing undetected thru our southern borders is what keeps the governments of both side of the border fired up. They’ll resist every attempt to close that border.
BTW, we had this conversation in 1993 !!!
macncheez on July 10, 2010 at 11:21 PM
I noticed that too. Sort of like the environmentalists with the oil spill and any critism of the currect administration. They’re being uncharacteristically patient.
Monica on July 10, 2010 at 11:23 PM
Well, there’s not much to say to that. Have fun with your hemlock dude, I refuse to be hauled before Dr. Ezekiel Emmanuel’s death panels or the kangaroo court of political correctness and state worship.
abobo on July 10, 2010 at 11:24 PM
+100
GnuBreed on July 10, 2010 at 11:30 PM
This is theoretical on my part.
As for incidents. An aircraft like the Osprey is expected to have issues starting out. Early jet aircraft had similar problems.
And I am not even mentioning the fire support bases behind The Wall (two different kinds) as well as the things at The Wall in addition to the Gun towers.
Holger on July 10, 2010 at 11:35 PM
They’ll resist every attempt to close that border.
BTW, we had this conversation in 1993 !!!
macncheez on July 10, 2010 at 11:21 PM
macncheez: Idiot eh,you always sound reasoned and the same
-wave lengh as my thinking is!!:)
I really thought,that after 9/11,the US would of
closed all its borders until they had a good gras
p as to who was in the country,I remember reading
an article that stated the FBI can’t account for
thousands of foreigns who’s visa’s had expired!!
canopfor on July 10, 2010 at 11:37 PM
…and next up, Milbank informs everyone that the border is more secure than ever before……
….and the healthcare bill is deficit neutral….
……….and the stimulus has worked…….
…………..and the economy is headed in the right direction…..
…………and that Obama has not raised taxes on the middle class…..
……….and that Obama is keeping his promises…..
……………and that “smart power” is an International success.
Man I wish I had a ticket to the alternative universe useful idiots like Milbank live in.
Baxter Greene on July 10, 2010 at 11:37 PM
What’s sad is that this says more about Milbank than it does about Brewer, Arizona, or illegal immigration. It reveals him as a bigot who wants to believe that his opponents are racist scaremongers.
Bill Ramey on July 10, 2010 at 11:37 PM
canopfor on July 10, 2010 at 10:47 PM
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This is theoretical on my part.
Holger on July 10, 2010 at 11:35 PM
Holger: Yup,I know,and the Osprey’s,its good to hear,its
been straightened out!:)
canopfor on July 10, 2010 at 11:41 PM
About a month or so ago, Sarah Palin referred to marajuana as a ‘minimal problem’. In Alaska, possession of less than 1oz is not illegal. As far as marijuana goes, she hasn’t exactly been a staunch ‘war on drugs’ individual…
joejm65 on July 10, 2010 at 11:55 PM
There must be huge margins of profit in lawncare.
BL@KBIRD on July 10, 2010 at 11:55 PM
Dana Milbank: clueless tool.
What, can’t bother to do any real research before you spout off, Dana?
manofaiki on July 10, 2010 at 11:56 PM
America is coming apart at the seams.
Apparently, Arizona is adjacent to a seam.
God help us.
cane_loader on July 10, 2010 at 11:58 PM
Murder, human trafficking, drug cartels, and rapes are not the only problem at the border with Mexico. The threat of Hezbollah is becoming more and more of a reality. Andrew McCarthy reported on the latest intelligence in re to this weakness in our national security just yesterday.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjA0NTUwZmI0OTQ4ZWQ5ODkzYTEwNmMyMzZmMjZiMDc
onlineanalyst on July 10, 2010 at 11:58 PM
Bummer. We’re on our own.
Every man and woman – defend your family to the death.
America is in a state of collapse.
cane_loader on July 10, 2010 at 11:59 PM
IIRC, on the Tuesday 9-11 happened, el presidente de mehico vicente Fox was in DC to push Bush for amnesty. He left empty handed. The day after 9-11, when reports started coming out that the hijackers had entered the country on student visas , and stayed even after their visas had expired, Sen Diane Feinstein ( D-bag,CA) was reported as urging the State Dept and Prez Bush to scrutinize each and every student -visa issued by US. Days later she went silent and never said a word about it ever again.
We had a bunch of Egyptian muslims, who had come to US on student visas sponsered by some Univ in Montana, just disappear from JFK airport and no one knows where they went.
Student visas are issued on the basis of Univ professors signing for them. Family visit visas are issued on the basis of family members sponsering the visitors. H1 visas are given when companies sponser the candidates. Unskilled workers are given visas when contractor agencies sponser and apply for those persons. K visas are issued to fiances and fiancees when the other party applies and sponsers.
E visas are give to managerial level employees of large usually multimational companies.Then there are the ‘spouse’ visas . All these visas require ‘affadavit of support’ and bank statements by those filing for their worker/relative in US, and ID and purpose verification for those who are the subject of the visa application.
The point is that its very easy to track those who have overstayed their visas, just prosecute their sponsor if the fugitives can’t be located for deportation.
But no one will do that. Specially for student visas. Guess how many ( muslim and marxist) professors will end up in fed prison if DHS and ICE go looking for the “students” they sponsored, over the years !!!!!!
macncheez on July 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM
The WaPo is following their sister Newsweek right down the tubes in their quest to sell out all credibility for Obama.
… about 5 front page stories on “Macaca” in their personal vendetta against Senator Allen…..
…..their own employees selling access to the White House…
……..running with the bogus and now debunked claims of racial slurs and spitting being done by the Tea Party towards Congressmen……
…..having to fire their journolist buddy that they paraded as a conservative…..
….it’s hard to tell which liberal publication is more pathetic…the NY Times or Wapo.
….The National Enquirer has more credibility than these idiots.
Baxter Greene on July 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM
Did I think Obama could collapse Amereica?
No. Never thought it would be close to this bad.
The man has effectively, through precise blows at certain predetermined striations, just like a diamond bruiter, shattered our country.
It will down come down to an assertive reclamation in November and an unequivocal abnegation in 2012 — or it’s R.I.P. to the United States of America.
If the Founders had been buried in California, the state would already have broken free from gyroscopic force and been hauled in with grappling hooks tossed from a gaggle of junks in the South China Sea.
cane_loader on July 11, 2010 at 12:06 AM
I understand what you are saying and don’t necessarily disagree with you. Pot is about as dangerous to society as alcohol. However, if we legalize it and the drug lords move on to cocaine and heroin, would you have the same opinion? Should we legalize that as well. Cocaine and heroin have a much greater adverse impact on society as a whole. If you legalize it, usage will go up and being a pot head is very different than being a coke/crack head or addicted to heroin. Those are more addictive drugs and not used in a recreational manner. And those crackheads become a burden on society with crime, health care, and welfare because they can’t hold down a job and commit crime to support their habit.
Same thing with meth. That’s the reason I am against the whole “legalize drugs” position.
ramrants on July 11, 2010 at 12:19 AM
It’s a good thing guns are illegal in Mexico…
Oh, wait!
Seven Percent Solution on July 11, 2010 at 12:22 AM
Things coalesced for me at a stop light in Baton Rouge a few days ago.
Rush-hour traffic – two Mexicans (yes, they were- I have lived long enough to pick out deep-from-the-heart-of-Mehico genuine articles) start strolling across a major thoroughfare – right in front of my car – not even at an intersection. The light’s still red, but they’re blocking me from moving forward.
I follow them with my eyes as they finally let me go (the light is now green and I am still blocked because they are strolling across the road like Bonds walking off a juiced homer) and see that they are walking straight toward the kitchen entrance of a restaurant.
My line of sight shifts very slightly to the right, re-focuses upon the far corner, where I see two 21-ish white kids BEGGING at the freeway on-ramp. They’ve got a sign pleading their destitution, both are smoking cigarettes, and they have some sort of mongrel, bandana-clad pit bull.
This is right outside of the LSU campus.
I swivel my head. Greasy-haired, wrinkle-shirted Mexicans (these are the exact facts of what I saw) ignore traffic laws, stroll across a 6-lane boulevard, and go into restaurant to make money paid by a purveyor of the modern soft-slavery.
Greasy-haired, wrinkled-shirted white kids beg for money at the on-ramp.
I holler out the window, in frustration, “Mexico alla! Mexico alla!.” The Mexicans turn to look at me as I jerk my thumb southward. “Mexico ALLA!!! (Mexico is THATWAY!)
I simultaneously feel furious, ashamed at my own actions, and hopeless. I hit the gas and try to forget what I saw.
cane_loader on July 11, 2010 at 12:22 AM
DANA MILBANK:
“TRUTH!? WE DON’T NEED NO STEENKING TURHT!”
reliapundit on July 11, 2010 at 12:24 AM
having babies so they qualify for welfare.
ramrants on July 11, 2010 at 12:24 AM
whoa…whoa…whoa…you have got it all wrong…these are “moderate Hezbollah” that Obama has turned peaceful with his powerful oratory skills:
Great news: US to build up Hezbollah “moderates”
posted at 10:55 am on May 19, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/19/great-news-us-to-build-up-hezbollah-moderates/
….you know, “moderates like this:
Hamas, in their own words
ALLAH HAS DECLARED WAR ON YOU
VIDEO:
http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=f7650e4e7fcca1c9686b
…you have to have trust in “Hope and Change”….
Baxter Greene on July 11, 2010 at 12:27 AM
Really…there is nothing to worry about…democrats say that the border is more secure than ever….
Hezbollah on the Mexican border
http://www.tangle.com/view_video?viewkey=0861ff3eabea1ceb73e4
Nothing to see here…just move along….
…..trust in “Hope and Change”
Baxter Greene on July 11, 2010 at 12:36 AM
Legalize drugs and treat users as medical patients, distribute weapons to law abiding citizens……poof….problems resolved.
rickyricardo on July 11, 2010 at 12:49 AM
Pssst..lemme let you in on an open secret. You don’t need to HAVE a baby to get welfare. All you need is a baby with you to be qualified for every benefit the US taxpayers have for our spanish speaking undocumented workers who never work. It costs around 100 bucks
( Don’t ask me how I know that)
macncheez on July 11, 2010 at 12:50 AM
Frog + Boiling H2O
Obama failed.
This is a small spark of hope
cane_loader on July 11, 2010 at 12:55 AM
You’re dreaming, dude.
Did you catch the quote about the $3000 ransom for the boyfriend or he would be beaten and beheaded?
That had absolutely nothing to do with drugs. I can attest that was not an isolated incident.
I have a friend who was an illegal alien, (who has recently moved back to Mexico), who told me about his experience with border “guides” that kidnapped him, his 17 year old nephew, and four other women (one of them pregnant). They were all held for $2500 ransom or they would be killed. Their combined relatives coughed it up, and they were released.
You have absolutely no clue about what you’re talking…er…doctor.
Saltysam on July 11, 2010 at 1:03 AM
Yet another pie-in-the-sky, skip-to-my-lou, dreamer that has spent too much time watching Disney productions.
Saltysam on July 11, 2010 at 1:05 AM
PS That’s $2500 each. That’s right…$15,000 total.
Saltysam on July 11, 2010 at 1:12 AM
This happens not only to illegals from mexico but also to Vietnamese and Chinese illegals , brought in thru the same border or in containers on ships , on ports, specially Long Beach CA. Arabs and muslims are the only ones who do not mind paying the cayotes in advance. The mosques serve as hawala pickup points.But I guess everyone knows that already. Otherwise a big ooooopsie ;-)
macncheez on July 11, 2010 at 1:18 AM
That Milbank quote is jaw dropping-ly ignorant.
I can just hear him tee-heeing as he carelessly wrote that Brewer was fabricating tales of “dark skins” beheading blond haired, blue eyed white skins, because he’s got his head so far up his ass that he does not understand the issues.
That the Post doesn’t fire him on grounds that he’s childish and naive says a lot about the editorial staff and their comprehension of how reputation affects future sales. Ironically, the “educated” have become the boorish class in some respects. This clown being a prime example.
Saltysam on July 11, 2010 at 1:29 AM
These libtards are like the hippies dancing on the roof in the movie “Independence Day”. They were welcoming the ET’s with open arms only to be blown to smithereens.
Mojave Mark on July 11, 2010 at 1:43 AM
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Maybe if you’d put that bong down for a minute or two you’d have been awake a few weeks back when the naysayers went crazy after Sarah Palin said she thought the police had better things to do than go after some loser smoking dope at home. This was pretty much Reagan’s position, as well.
gary4205 on July 11, 2010 at 1:59 AM
There should be nothing more professionally embarrassing to a reporter or columnist than engaging in snotty, condescending snark, and being 100% wrong on your facts.
We’ll see what kind of integrity Millbank has; I’m guessing it’s “little to none.”
Dana, if things are so hunky-dory down by the border, why has the Federal government posted no-go signs eighty miles on our side of the border? That wasn’t Brewer. That was your boy, Barry.
Get your flak jacket and venture south, you big-talking hunk of testosterone, you.
And if you need a road dog, see if that stud-muffin Keefie will will volunteer.
notropis on July 11, 2010 at 2:20 AM
You really don’t understand that plenty of Americans have brown skin as well, do you?
Observation on July 11, 2010 at 2:42 AM
All wrong, eh? I think Dana Milbank needs to hire a fact checker.
SoulGlo on July 11, 2010 at 3:18 AM
Illegal immigrant workers – growing the pot Americans
won’tcan’t grow.Mr Purple on July 11, 2010 at 3:24 AM
wtf?
Sarah just said she doesn’t care about going after pot.
If you’re going to be a libertarian, you have to read up on things and be prepared. That’s the first basic requirement.
John the Libertarian on July 11, 2010 at 3:34 AM
America will probably be able to survive Barack Obama, but America cannot survive the idiots who elected him. They have to learn, and they have to be kept to a minority percentage of the population or we are sunk. That is indisputable.
Rush Limbaugh 7/09/2010
Ditto that!
Dire Straits on July 11, 2010 at 3:48 AM
email contact:
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/email/dana+milbank/
ted c on July 11, 2010 at 4:04 AM
Which State Department of Transportation does Dana Milbank work for (refering to the picture on the home page)?
Dire Straits on July 11, 2010 at 4:10 AM
CA.
He must have been the genius who painted over the US flag before the 4th July on Hwy 680
;-)
macncheez on July 11, 2010 at 4:36 AM
That would not suprise me in the least. :)
Dire Straits on July 11, 2010 at 4:37 AM
You need to look more closely at Palin’s stance on this. She has admitted to smoking marijuana, when it was legal in AK. You just might agree and do not Know it.
IowaWoman on July 11, 2010 at 6:35 AM
I will say Yes, I do still support legalization/decriminalization. If the cartels do indeed move to smuggling in cocaine/heroin as a main product, maybe we’ll finally have the prod to close the damned borders.
NavyspyII on July 11, 2010 at 6:51 AM
Oh, and on topic: Dana Milbank had been a buffoon for decades. This article does not surprise me. It’s just another datum point arguing that we have propaganda, not journalism.
NavyspyII on July 11, 2010 at 6:56 AM
+1
was thinking the same thing when reading the post…
cmsinaz on July 11, 2010 at 6:58 AM
Dana Milbank’s meandering blatherfest against Arizona reminds me of the fascinating experiments sociologists did back in the 1950′s, where they would put a monkey in front of a typewriter and let him bang away on the keys to see if anything inteligent would show up, even though the only thing that ended up on the page was a jumbled mess of mindless drivel; kind of like Dana Milbank’s piece presented here.
pilamaye on July 11, 2010 at 7:30 AM
Flood his e-mail in box. It won’t change his misguided efforts but it will at least make you feel a little better.
Tim Zank on July 11, 2010 at 7:49 AM
So, in this legalized-pot utopia of yours, where do 14-year-olds buy their marijuana? Wait, you say it will be illegal for them to buy it? I guess the illegal trafficking of marijuana will continue then, as will the accompanying criminality. What was the benefit of legalizing pot again?
Kafir on July 11, 2010 at 7:59 AM
*tapping my foot*
I am anxiously waiting for the President of Mexico to sue Nogales because they are allowing drug smugglers out of their city to cross over to the United States.
In the meantime, Jorge Ramos and Univisión are pro-illegal immigration. For God’s sake these illegals are being portrayed as with having less dignity than a Chihuahua in a shelter.
OTOH, their broadcast is from the Mexican border and bullets fly by the reporter; for whatever reason, I saw less police/SWAT-type Mexican officers on the defense. Of course the houses in that town are paying the consequences, these Mexicans either left or can’t leave home; their houses and cars look like Swiss cheese.
I say it’s Bazooka time, Gov. Brewer. And it’s not the hard ones that comes inside those CRACKER Jacks that I am writing about./sarc
ProudPalinFan on July 11, 2010 at 8:19 AM
Sorry! I think I meant “offense”. First cup of coffee with back pain, yikes! Anyhoo, the AZ Guv should have Judge Judy review this lawsuit. It’s THAT laughable. Imagine Brewer and Obama at those podiums in front of Judge Judy.
There’s your comic relief for the am! :D
ProudPalinFan on July 11, 2010 at 8:23 AM
It’s the same controversial but true opinion (IMHO) that O’Reilly talks about when it comes to gay marriage. What then? Legalize bestiality-marry your horse? Legalize to marry an inanimate object? A trio?
When it comes to make an illegal drug legal, the rest of them will be looked at with a similar chance to bring their arguments to court-the childish “But, but they can, how come I can’t”? POV.
ProudPalinFan on July 11, 2010 at 8:29 AM
From Illinois, my husband and I are taking our kids to Arizona in a week to see the Grand Canyon. We will spend our hard earned dollars there.
Cpoy2 on July 11, 2010 at 8:59 AM
Seeing that picture of Dana Millbank, I was ready to say “Hey, Bob McKenzie, where’s Doug?”
pilamaye on July 11, 2010 at 9:00 AM
heh. there’s probably only a few of us here that actually get what that means. He does appear to be quite a hoser, though.
ted c on July 11, 2010 at 9:12 AM
Maybe we can hook Dana up with Peggy West? :)
Dire Straits on July 11, 2010 at 9:20 AM
Prohibition got a lot of people killed. Was it the people who forced prohibition on otherwise law-abiding citizens who “didn’t give two sh*ts” or the people who drank anyway?
A bad law is a bad law. “Let freedom ring” again. Like it’s supposed to.
Squiggy on July 11, 2010 at 9:34 AM
And the Jayson Blair award for researching a story before writing it goes to…
MNHawk on July 11, 2010 at 9:39 AM
The truly sad thing is, like EVERYTHING else that is in opposition to the administration, the truth doesn’t see the light of day.
Even if it does get out – the journalistactivists pooh-pooh and scream “conspiracy theorist racist teabaggers! Do not believe a word they say!!!”.
And it works.
tru2tx on July 11, 2010 at 9:51 AM
Do you understand the concept of “straw-man”? You might as well say “in this legalized-pot utopia of yours, where do 14-year-olds shoot their girlfriends”?
I can name a few benefits – emptying our jails of non-violent offenders, for one. Raising much-needed revenue for government, not to mention ending huge outlays that make ZERO dent in the availability of cannabis, is another. Ending the drug cartels’ power of life and death over innocent people, and the massive profit they make would just be a fringe benefit. And that would happen without putting our agents and citizens in harms way (like they are now, for instance). Your idea of forcing people to do things your way is an abject failure.
Plus, and this is the one I consider the single most important reason for full legalization – getting it into the thick skulls of so many politicians, that in America we’re supposed to be able to decide for ourselves how we will live our lives. Let freedom ring, baby.
Squiggy on July 11, 2010 at 9:51 AM
All over the nation, but especially in states like California, Texas, and New York, social conservatives are the prison and security guard unions’ best friends.
abobo on July 11, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Governor Richardson of New Mexico was on CNN State of the Union this morning. He was criticizing Gov Brewer for canceling the Governors meeting with 6 of their Mexican Governor counterparts…never mind that they all declared they wouldn’t step foot in Arizona -boycotting. That’s right in the Democrats eyes, the Mexicans are right and Governor Brewer is wrong.
Those same Governors aren’t keeping Mexican citizens safe -this post just scratches the surface, and they could careless about American citizens. But Richardson claims that it’s important to have discussions with their Mexican counterparts.
In order to have any productive relationship with any Mexican Government official – don’t we first need them to be Competent and NOT Corrupt. So the Governors on the Southern border are going to get together with their Mexican counterparts, and SHUN their own fellow Governor Jan Brewer. That’s how the American public views it, and the American public are on Governor Brewer’s side. Way to make sure they lose multiple elections come November 2010.
The Democrats keep saying that Texas is in play, and that Rick Perry is vulnerable. If he attends this meeting – which slaps his fellow border Governor in the Face, the Democrats just might be right.
Country First? Apparently NOT if you are Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bill Richardson or Rick Perry.
Dr Evil on July 11, 2010 at 11:00 AM
Doot da doot da doot do dooooo! What a hoser!
Vince on July 11, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Dana Milbank.
BKeyser on July 11, 2010 at 11:31 AM
Why would you need to buy something you can grow in your back yard or basement???
BigWyo on July 11, 2010 at 11:59 AM
And a bad analogy is a bad analogy.
Let’s see… prohibition… take an entire, well developed, perfectly legal industry and, overnight, make it illegal, forcing everyone who depended on it to go broke or break the law… plus you take a thoroughly pervasive social activity, deeply ingrained in the nation’s culture (and essential to the religion of a significant portion of its citizens) and turn that illegal.
Of course, these are just niggling little details and obviously in no way affected the supply and demand, and therefore, the associated criminal activity of alcohol during prohibition, right?
JSchuler on July 11, 2010 at 12:17 PM
Your arguments have no basis in fact. Of course, facts to a juvenile pothead are an unnecessary buzzkill.
BKeyser on July 11, 2010 at 12:18 PM
Great job. Especially the “your arguments have no basis in fact” part.
I’m fifty, not a juvenile. I have a thirty-year-old daughter, all the way down to a four-year-old adopted son. And I haven’t even seen any cannabis in twenty years or so. But I have seen the Constitution, and the part about “Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” kind of epitomizes my argument.
What’s your point? Cannabis was legal too. And there were no gang-related murders, or pretty much anything else then either.
Squiggy on July 11, 2010 at 1:13 PM
Oh yeah, your link. Why not just link to “Refer madness”? It has about as much basis in fact.
Squiggy on July 11, 2010 at 1:16 PM
It’ll take a hell of a lot more than a focus on what specific poisons are smuggled over to get us off our kiesters. More and more sheeple either don’t give two hoots about the venom-vendors or want total legalization in the name of ‘freedom’.
The users aren’t losers anymore…the ‘straights’ are. Thanks to an entitlement-minded population, we’re losing the cultural battle, and with it the legal ones. If we can’t shake the notion that smoking/injecting/snorting yourself with every chemical known to man and then sticking taxpayers with the damages is not a right (it isn’t), there will be no victory in the War on Drugs.
Dark-Star on July 11, 2010 at 1:24 PM
As much as I am attracted to the tea party, the Sarah Palins and other social conservatives will not bend on their war against drugs. Dr.Gills on July 10, 2010 at 11:10 PM
She has admitted geting high and thinks that pot should not be lkisted as a Schedule 1 narcotic.
Akzed on July 11, 2010 at 2:01 PM
1. Reason doesn’t need facts, and 2. you substitute ad hominem for facts.
Akzed on July 11, 2010 at 2:03 PM
That’s what they said about prostitution in Vegas years ago, then found what prostitution also brought…
Legalizing drugs because it doesn’t do any harm, is like saying don’t cap the oil well, because where it is happening, nothing will really be harmed…it’s the ripple effect, it’s what allowing drugs to flow freely, it’s who is “attached” to these drugs, it’s the people who are drawn to them.
right2bright on July 11, 2010 at 5:33 PM
Another reason to buy local,
gbear on July 11, 2010 at 5:51 PM
This is what you call “debating”? This is so left-field it doesn’t even measure up to a “straw-man” argument.
If my neighbor grows something for his personal use, why is that any of my business? Answer – it’s not.
And to answer your “question”, there would be no cannabis “flowing freely” (define this – does alcohol “flow freely”?) If anything, all drugs, “hard” and “soft” flow freely now. If you have any intellectual honesty, you will have to admit that our current policies are an epic failure.
Look up Portugal’s little “experiment” for the answer to your “question”. They legalized all drugs a year or so ago. Drug crime has disappeared, and if anything, usage has gone down. Innocent people are no longer caught in the crossfire. You know, like when Al Capone was around.
Not that you’ll look it up. You people have the same absolute certainty that “progressives” have – you know the all the answers, and you will never question if you’re right. Well I’ve got news for you – comparing cannabis laws to not capping the oil well is truly moronic.
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, for me, can only be defined by me. You define your own, and get off my back.
Squiggy on July 11, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Dr.Gills on July 10, 2010 at 11:10 PM
While I agree in part there is an issue with that logic since it does not address the meth and cocaine trade. Hell the biggest difference is I have never heard of a driveby when someone was stoned. Besides, it’s a great cash crop ! But with obamacares nanny statism, they would have to charge even more because all the stoners would be overweight from the oreos and ice cream they wind up eating ;)
PatriotPete on July 12, 2010 at 8:54 AM
Dark-Star on July 11, 2010 at 1:24 PM
The press is a parody of itself…
Corruption is an integral part of local journalism and the war of the cartels divided loyalties in the newsrooms. Some paid the price: eight journalists were kidnapped on March 8 [in Tamaulipas], five of them are still unaccounted for. Now all are under the same threat: “plata o plomo” silver or lead, take the money or die. Serve one cartel or the other?
I figure so long as the targets are Americans, journalists (Dana Milbank) will keep fudging the truth until it’s their ass on the line and it’s too late.
meMC on July 12, 2010 at 11:23 AM
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