Obama underwater in Carville poll?

posted at 10:55 am on July 9, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

James Carville runs Democracy Corps, a liberal political-action group that also does regular polling on elections and issues.  Normally it provides the Left with interesting, if not necessarily compelling, data for debate, but today’s poll results have plenty for the Right to discuss.  Not only does it show Barack Obama underwater on job approval, it also shows that Obama has created a wide impression that he is a socialist in practice, as Jim Geraghty points out:

Deep in the poll, they ask, “Now, I am going to read you a list of words and phrases which people use to describe political figures. For each word or phrase, please tell me whether it describes Barack Obama very well, well, not too well, or not well at all.” …

When asked about “a socialist,” 33 percent of likely voters say it describes Obama “very well,” 22 percent say “well,” 15 percent say “not too well,” and 25 percent say “not well at all.”

In other words, 55 percent of likely voters think “socialist” is a reasonably accurate way of describing Obama.

That’s not the worst of it, though.  In this poll, which had a 35/31 Democrat-Republican split — better than some media pollsters manage — Barack Obama sinks underwater on job approval, 46/50.  More strongly disapprove (38%) than strongly approve (27%) of his job performance.  Among likely voters, the gap widens to 45/51, with 40% strongly disapproving of Obama’s performance.  The same exact splits occur on Obama’s handling of the economy, although those strongly approving drop to 22% among all respondents and 23% of likely voters.

On the Congressional ballot, the bad news continues for Democrats.  The GOP wins overall on the question, 46/43, but among likely voters the split goes to six, 48/42.  Twenty-six percent said there was “no chance” they would support a Democratic candidate, while 18% said “no chance” about the Republicans.

Americans remain pessimistic about the economy as well.  Forty percent believe we have hit bottom and have started to improve.  However, 22% say we’ve hit the bottom and are staying there, while 34% think we haven’t hit the bottom yet at all.

It probably doesn’t come as a big shock that Obama doesn’t get good marks on the oil spill, but it could be worse.  His approval numbers on the spill almost mirror that of the economy and his overall approval, 43/50 in both likely voters and the overall sample.  For those who disapprove, 66% say he’s been ineffective and 36% blame his bad leadership (the categories overlap, with multiple responses).

Perhaps most problematic, Obama can’t score a majority for any of the positive qualities listed by the pollster in the survey among likely voters.  The best he does is a 49% for “hopeful vision” and the same for “strong leader,” both of which are ties.  Otherwise, Obama sinks underwater on every other quality mentioned.  The “socialist” label reflects that, but even more significantly for the midterm, 61% of likely voters think “big spender” fits well or very well.


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Carville was very angry about Obama lacking any sense of urgency or direction to help in the gulf. Despite that, however, he recently told Anderson Cooper he was confident Obama would be re-elected in 2012. That was before he released these poll results though.

GrannySunni on July 9, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Doesn’t Carville usually oversample democrats?

meci on July 9, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Neo-Stalinist?

Soon-to-be-neo-Stalinist?

I forget: how did Stalin feel about the Jews?

Hieronymus on July 9, 2010 at 12:27 PM

At this point, I’m starting to think Obama doesn’t care what happens from here, to himself or his party. He got his “historic” health care bill passed and he can veto any attempts to repeal it. If this legislation can’t be altered, it has put us on the inevitable road to European socialism and he knows it. So why work at the job anymore? Why care what happens to a few Congressman and Senators that you never really liked much anyway?

rockmom on July 9, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Only 55%?

Sigh.

angryed on July 9, 2010 at 11:20 AM

No kidding.

Midas on July 9, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Socialist? Looks like people are starting to wake up. Even O’Reilly finally admitted that last night.

GarandFan on July 9, 2010 at 12:44 PM

In the past week you have heard a mounting chorus of criticism from people who voted for Obama (particularly in business circles) but dislike how things are going. This list includes people like Barbara Striesand, which is about as lib as you can get. Rush discussed this at length yesterday and all of these people have one thing in common, they are all longtime friends of the Clintons. I say all that to say Carville is not much different, while a full blown liberal, I think Obama scares them, he is more radical in practice than they ever dreamed of being. Clinton people might have looked buddy, buddy with bam-bam but they were simply waiting for hints from the Clintons that the time is right to start undermining him. That time is now – about 4 months out from the congressional elections. Even if Hillary has no intention of running again, they will extract payback for what Obama did to them by usurping his role and ousting Hillary from the top of the ticket. You do not diss the Clintons and get away with it – ever.

Govgirl on July 9, 2010 at 12:46 PM

Carville’s Oil Outburst

“Were about to Die Down Here”!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P693DaOeQL8

canopfor on July 9, 2010 at 12:46 PM

I’m not a golfer and can’t really verify this but I’ve heard a rumor that The Won is almost as good at golf as he is at bowling.

[Oldnuke on July 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM]

Um, yeah. I’d heard rumor last week that a golf course he played had a pin on the 18th with a flag that said, “Miss Bowling Yet?”

Dusty on July 9, 2010 at 12:47 PM

I forget: how did Stalin feel about the Jews?

Gee, you mean Woody Allen may really get his wish?

oldleprechaun on July 9, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Govgirl on July 9, 2010 at 12:46 PM

GE CEO Jeffery Immelt.

Dr Evil on July 9, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Govgirl on July 9, 2010 at 12:46 PM

It could be argued that it started when Bill Clinton advised Obama to push through an unpopular Health Insurance Reform Bill, telling the President he and the Democrats had plenty of time to recover popularity before the Nov 2010 elections. Yeah hows that working out….Bill Clinton isn’t stupid, why would he give Obama that kind of advice? Because he knew Obama would take it, you can always count on hubris.

Dr Evil on July 9, 2010 at 12:57 PM

own it dear leader…can’t pass the buck on this one….

cmsinaz on July 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

We’re on our way to Obatopia and you cretins resist.

mark of fish on July 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Øbama inherited lousy poll ratings from Booosh.

petefrt on July 9, 2010 at 1:09 PM

I forget: how did Stalin feel about the Jews?

Hieronymus on July 9, 2010 at 12:27 PM

He killed them.

Of course, he killed everybody, regardless of race color or creed. Thus making him an equal-opportunity sociopath, and therefore a hero to the American Left.

JohnGalt23 on July 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Who wants to field an omnibus overnight poll testing the data points on “Scumbag Racist Marxist Soros Puppet”?

Show of hands.

Western_Civ on July 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Carville is, once again, signalling to Dems that it’s OK to criticize Obama openly for letting the Gulf Gusher crisis go to waste politically.

I used to think Carville was speaking from the heart as a Louisianan, but it’s clearer now that he’s just gobsmacked at Barry’s horrible instincts and failure to swoop down to the Gulf Coast and capitalize on the disaster.

Christien on July 9, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Just goes to show, the people know a socialist when they see one and–unlike their supposed betters in the right of center punditry–aren’t afraid to say so.

james23 on July 9, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Dr Evil on July 9, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Interesting thoughts, I had not even stopped to consider that Clinton was encouraging Obama to push HCR through, spelling certain disaster. If there is anything Clinton is it is an expert reader of the tea leaves (no pun intended) and he had to know people hated HCR bill and that it would cost Obama dearly. I am not sure what the Clinton’s are up to, nor do I trust them, but you know how that saying goes “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” this is how I am feeling toward the Clinton’s and their machine right now.

Govgirl on July 9, 2010 at 1:28 PM

I’m not a golfer and can’t really verify this but I’ve heard a rumor that The Won is almost as good at golf as he is at bowling.

[Oldnuke on July 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM]

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Why, just last week, he hit two of his best balls.
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He stepped on a rake.

mrt721 on July 9, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Not to worry! There will be no Obama bad news. When the new internet kill switch law passes, he will be able to shut down the internet 4 months before the 2012 election. Indeed, I have only one question. Can the radio and TV kill switch laws be far behind?

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on July 9, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Ouch. I guess James Carville is off the guest list at the White House now.

SC.Charlie on July 9, 2010 at 1:49 PM

I forget: how did Stalin feel about the Jews?
Hieronymus on July 9, 2010 at 12:27 PM

He killed them. Of course, he killed everybody, regardless of race color or creed. Thus making him an equal-opportunity sociopath, and therefore a hero to the American Left.
JohnGalt23 on July 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM

That’s why liberals always say they liked Stalin but hated Hitler. It’s not because Hitler killed more Jews than Stalin — he didn’t.

It’s because Hitler ONLY killed the Jews.

logis on July 9, 2010 at 1:56 PM

The sample rate is reported to be 35% Dem’s , and 30% Rep.
I think this clearly shows Hillary is going to run in 2012 ,otherwise why would Carville release the poll ?
How does he (Carville) as a LOYAL Democrat operative help the party or it’s cause by releasing this data ?
I think everyone agrees the Dem’s will lose lots of seats in the Nov election .
Shortly after the elections we will see Hillary resign ( I bet she says she cant go on any more cause the way O is treating Israel )
The new cycle for Elections is about 2 YEARS , so that would be perfect timing .
Obama really is in no position to launch a re election campaign as he is failing on ALL fronts of his role as Socialist in chief.
Dem’s know they need to launch a plan right after the November elections , throw out Hillary and who would be poised to make a run for the Democrats ?
It’s so bad that conservatives should consider switching parties , voting for Hillary so she wins the nomination then vote for the Rep candidate ( or sit out if you live in a state where you cant cross over )
That is of course if Obama allows us to go vote in November…

ELMO Q on July 9, 2010 at 2:21 PM

Hieronymus on July 9, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Basically, if they were ‘true believers’ and followed the party line, no problem.

If they were ‘useful’, fine.

Everyone else was expendable.

Literally.

CPT. Charles on July 9, 2010 at 2:34 PM

I use a slightly different polling technique to guage Bozo’s job approval. I track the number of people that actively want to be in the audience when he shows up somewhere. The numbers have been dramatically declining with key moments at the Marcia Coakley campaign event and recently in Colorado.

At the appearance for Marcia they dragged people off the sidewalk and Bozo still only half filled a middle school gym.

In Colorado for Carnahan, they have had to deeply discount the price of the tickets, because…. heh… nobody wants them: http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/07/carnahan_drops.php

Obama is heading to MO and NV today to raise money for Sec/State Robin Carnahan (D), running for an open Senate seat, and Senate Maj. Leader Harry Reid.

The theater only holds 1078 and Bozo cannot fill it. I bet he doesn’t even half fill it.

BTW some tickets have been discounted down to $35. It would be worth that much to make signs and heckle Bozo on unemployment!

For comparison Scott Brown had over 3,000 at his campaign event.

dogsoldier on July 9, 2010 at 3:11 PM

I am not sure what the Clinton’s are up to, nor do I trust them, but you know how that saying goes “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” this is how I am feeling toward the Clinton’s and their machine right now.

Govgirl on July 9, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Maybe Bubba forgave them for insinuating to the American public that he was some kind of racist. Remember the charge when Bill commented on the South Carolina primary races stating something like Jesse Jackson Sr., carried the South Carolina primary too…or something like that, and MSM turned it into Bill Clinton was a racist, and I guess by extension his wife running for President on the Democrat ticket….he may have forgave, I doubt seriously he has forgotten.

This is a golden oldie – Bill Clinton was right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPNdIrnwyfE

Dr Evil on July 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM

Socialist describes Obama incompletely. To come closer to the full flavor of the man, one must use the term fascist-socialist.

Tav on July 9, 2010 at 4:53 PM

When asked about “a socialist,” 33 percent of likely voters say it describes Obama “very well,” 22 percent say “well,” 15 percent say “not too well,” and 25 percent say “not well at all.”

Carville needed to ask a follow-up question of the “not too well” group and the “not well at all” group. Namely, does fascist or communist describe Obama well?

I’m not convinced that these two groups view Obama more favorably than the other two groups. I’ll bet there are some who view Obama worse.

BuckeyeSam on July 9, 2010 at 5:42 PM

I’m not all that encouraged by these poll numbers. If the GOP wins Congress this fall and has nothing to show for it in two years (which is likely), Obama may be re-elected.

The Republican Party is in identity crisis. Are they for big or small gov’t? Pro-life or pro-choice? Pro-amnesty or against?

It’s not enough to be against someone–at some point a party has to define itself. Do Republicans have the leaders to do so?

jazz_piano on July 9, 2010 at 9:48 PM

C’mon Obama, yah gotta get down herah, we’re dying down herah!

chickasaw42 on July 10, 2010 at 12:46 AM

dogsoldier ~ Actually the cheapest tickets were $35, but they’ve been cut to “half price” and the good seats for $250 are available at $99.
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The funny thing is the Kansas City Star reporting Carnahan “expects . . . $250K in net donations . . .” Now, if you sold out a 1000-seat venue @ $250 per seat and didn’t have to pay any expenses, you might get that. BUT they aren’t sold out, most seats were even priced that high originally and they ALL are being discounted, and federal election law requires the venue be paid for at the going rate, or be reported as a donation (which would undoubtedly exceed the legal limit).
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If she nets $100,000, she will have to turn her head as the union thugs drop the wads of cash in the basket.

Adjoran on July 10, 2010 at 6:42 AM

dogsoldier ~ Actually the cheapest tickets were $35, but they’ve been cut to “half price” and the good seats for $250 are available at $99.

Ow, that’s gotta sting. It will be interesting to follow this and find out how many actually show up! (excluding the folks dragged in kicking and screaming) heh!

dogsoldier on July 10, 2010 at 10:13 AM

What is with the Cheshire Cat grin? Because Carville spoke President Obama’s name the President thought that he was gaining Carville’s support. President Obama just indicates that he is a lousy listener, and worse leader, with an ego that is going to do harm to all of U.S.

MSGTAS on July 10, 2010 at 10:52 AM

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