Obama: Let’s spend $2 billion to create 5100 jobs

posted at 11:00 am on July 3, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

And I thought Barack Obama’s response to the jobs numbers yesterday was clueless.  Obama proposed spending $800 million to create 5,000 jobs, which would install broadband technology where it hasn’t already expanded because of demand, which will cost $160,000 per job.  Today, Obama has refined his approach in his weekly address, proposing to spend even more money to create jobs that will mainly disappear:

That’s one of the reasons why we’re accelerating the transition to a clean energy economy and doubling our use of renewable energy sources like wind and solar power – steps that have the potential to create whole new industries and hundreds of thousands of new jobs in America.

In fact, today, I’m announcing that the Department of Energy is awarding nearly $2 billion in conditional commitments to two solar companies.

The first is Abengoa Solar, a company that has agreed to build one of the largest solar plants in the world right here in the United States. After years of watching companies build things and create jobs overseas, it’s good news that we’ve attracted a company to our shores to build a plant and create jobs right here in America.  In the short term, construction will create approximately 1,600 jobs in Arizona. What’s more, over 70 percent of the components and products used in construction will be manufactured in the USA, boosting jobs and communities in states up and down the supply chain. Once completed, this plant will be the first large-scale solar plant in the U.S. to actually store the energy it generates for later use – even at night.  And it will generate enough clean, renewable energy to power 70,000 homes.

The second company is Abound Solar Manufacturing, which will manufacture advanced solar panels at two new plants, creating more than 2,000 construction jobs and 1,500 permanent jobs.  A Colorado plant is already underway, and an Indiana plant will be built in what’s now an empty Chrysler factory.  When fully operational, these plants will produce millions of state-of-the-art solar panels each year.

If this is an example of how Obama will sell the green-jobs economy, he’d better hope that the public schools get a lot worse than they already are at teaching math.  Obama proposes spending $2 billion to create a total of 5,100 jobs.  That will cost $392,156.87 per job.  That kind of money, in the private sector at least, should fund several jobs.  Heck, even a government bureaucrat costs less than that; even at the Department of Transportation, that would cover two and have enough left over for a secretary.

But that’s not the only folly in this proposal.  Of the 5,100 jobs Obama promises, only 1,500 of them are permanent jobs.  The others are construction jobs, which will only last as long as the money flows to the project.  That means we will spend over $1.3 million per “permanent” job in building this “green economy,” which looks more like a red-ink economy with even a cursory check of the numbers.

And let’s say that these 1500 jobs are all great-paying, tax-generating jobs that earn an average of $100,000 per year, and that these folks all pay an effective tax rate of 25%, which is an incredibly generous calculation.  How long will it take to pay back that investment from the permanent jobs created by this effort?  Why, only 53 years and 4 months! And that’s only if one doesn’t calculate the cost of money over that period of time and ignore the impact of inflation.

We know that the motto of this administration is “never let a good crisis go to waste,” but it turns out that the real crisis is mathematical illiteracy — and Obama hopes it afflicts enough people to get away with this.

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We lose money on each new job, but we’ll make it up in volume.

Cicero43 on July 3, 2010 at 11:04 AM

They’ll all turn out to be government jobs (got to regulate that “green” energy, after all).

rmgraha on July 3, 2010 at 11:04 AM

By any means necessary.

Inanemergencydial on July 3, 2010 at 11:08 AM

At this point they are just playing games with the unemployment numbers. Any temporary drop in the unemployment numbers will be used as evidence the economy is improving. Who cares if it is temporary or costs us our future.

Howcome on July 3, 2010 at 11:08 AM

And Harry Reid grabs the ball and runs with it as “Look at the jobs I’m bringing to Arizona!”

What a perfect time for Harry’s floundering re-election campaign.

GoldenEagle4444 on July 3, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Jesus.

This man couldn’t run a business to save his life and he is running this country like a little kid trying to play monopoly by stealing from the banker in plain site and hoping the banker doesn’t notice. We are so screwed.

upinak on July 3, 2010 at 11:10 AM

At this point, Obama mostly reminds me of the bad ad out for Pep Boys, with the bobbing heads.

I still have trouble believing just how much I figured him out in the primary.

He really is a puppet of the DC East Coast arm of the Dem party.

AnninCA on July 3, 2010 at 11:11 AM

I know Ed and AP get bent out of shape when people call the Obamaturd a marxist, but what can he possibly be if not a marxist? What part of his philosophy is opposed to marxism?
What evidence do we have that he does not support the government control (ultimately, ownership) of the means of production and wealth?
I won’t ask you to prove a negative (prove Obama isn’t a marxist) but at least try to prove he’s something else.

Extrafishy on July 3, 2010 at 11:12 AM

New home sales must be lagging, so the contruction unions need some work.

Wethal on July 3, 2010 at 11:12 AM

Madame Pelosi said unemployment benefits create jobs. Obviously Obama is going to fail. All he has to do is order all businesses to lay off their employees and we’d be at full employment…

And this is not sarcasm, this is the way some Liberals ‘think’.

Holger on July 3, 2010 at 11:12 AM

The existing infrastructure will not handle all the lemming traffic. We need eleventy brazillion dollars to hire workers to build freeways to drive the American economy off a cliff.

bitsy on July 3, 2010 at 11:12 AM

Well since that money would be going to Arizona for construction jobs, why not send a few more billion so Arizone can BUILD A FREAKING FENCE.

I hope Arizona announces that they are unilaterally going to start building a fence since the feds won’t.

Canadian Infidel on July 3, 2010 at 11:13 AM

It doesn’t matter how much it costs…it’s our money, not his. And he can rant about creating thousands of new jobs. Not to mention, these are preliminary figures which, if implemented, should turn out to be about doubled anyway.

JetBoy on July 3, 2010 at 11:13 AM

The broadband thing, doesn’t that just allow the government to have a leg up in trying to gain control over the internet vis-a-vis net neutrality?

carbon_footprint on July 3, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Does anyone remember that email running around early in the administration, about giving everyone over 55 a million as long as they quite their job and paying off their mortgage or paying cash for a new house? Tell me that doesn’t make more sense then this crap they come up with.

Cindy Munford on July 3, 2010 at 11:15 AM

I don’t think bringing jobs to Arizona will help Reid win in Nevada…

KZnextzone on July 3, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Reminds me of Florida Governor Charlie Crist spending 10 million for 45 jobs.

Nelsa on July 3, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Why not save the money and just deem the jobs as created?

Bugler on July 3, 2010 at 11:15 AM

“..In the short term, construction will create approximately 1,600 jobs in Arizona..”

So the feb boycott is over…?

ujorge on July 3, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Why not save the money and just deem the jobs as created?

*LOL*

ujorge on July 3, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Jesus.

This man couldn’t run a business to save his life and he is running this country like a little kid trying to play monopoly by stealing from the banker in plain site and hoping the banker doesn’t notice. We are so screwed.

upinak on July 3, 2010 at 11:10 AM

He thinks he is playing with monopoly money.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on July 3, 2010 at 11:19 AM

And while we’re in deeming mode, let’s all deem our taxes as paid.

Bugler on July 3, 2010 at 11:19 AM

The fool announces it as if it’s something to be proud of. Idiot city.

jeanie on July 3, 2010 at 11:19 AM

Arizona!?!?!?! At least we can be confident that SOME of these $100K+ construction jobs will go to legal workers…

LASue on July 3, 2010 at 11:22 AM

That’s great! The solar company that I am contracted with isn’t even on the list and they are producing cells in the 20-25% efficiency range.
Abound Solar produces thin-film cells. Cheap, low cost but only half as efficient so it takes more space.
Abengoa Solar produces a variety of products but most of them are very expense and complex. The sterling engine version has promise but is very loud.

Electrongod on July 3, 2010 at 11:26 AM

FDR 2.0

Dr Evil on July 3, 2010 at 11:26 AM

meanwhile, those “broadband networks” should never carry any such filth as hotair or the Rush Limbaugh show since they were created with gubmint stimulus money.
/pick a koolaid drinker.

ted c on July 3, 2010 at 11:26 AM

I would like to see how they are proposing to “store” power for use at night. Are we feeding the unicorns beans?

mad scientist on July 3, 2010 at 11:29 AM

While on a case last week I ran into one of those recovery.gov signs. It was touting the repavement of a dead end road.

Key West Reader on July 3, 2010 at 11:30 AM

I,I,I….uhm,..oh to hell with it there simply aren’t words capable of describing the lunacy of these policies as solutionsin search of an AGW problem that just doesn’t exist.

The intellectual dishonesty inherent in the acceptance of blatant falsehoods based on collectivist ideology that has proven an abject failure where ever it has been attempted is utterly beneath contempt. That it is embraced while posturing as ethical rectitude and compassion is a moral failure of the highest magnitude.

There really needs to be adopted some sort of statue of limitations for the citizenry to emerge from its Kool-Aid induced stupor that had been slipped a “mickey” by a clearly criminally negligent fourth estate. Set it at say… 11/3/12, past which point they are found to be still blathering the Obamanable drivel, or caught with illicit Hopium paraphenalia, they are deported in exchange for a hard working Mexican they claim to care so much about.

Archimedes on July 3, 2010 at 11:31 AM

Geez, even Spain got more bang for the buck in their “green” economy. How about lifting all the offshore and onshore drilling bans, Barry? You’d create hundreds of thousands of jobs by barely having to lift a finger. And best of all, all the money for the jobs would come from the private sector, not the taxpayer.

Oh wait, there I go being logical again. I’ll say one thing. Whoever the next President is, while he or she will be inheriting a depression-level employment situation; if that President has GOP majorities to work with and can get massive tax cuts and a real energy plan through Congress, you’ll see this economy take off like gangbusters.

Doughboy on July 3, 2010 at 11:32 AM

We have paid for road construction using gasolene taxes. Obama is claiming the credit.

seven on July 3, 2010 at 11:32 AM

I live in Arizona. The construction jobs for the Solar plant will be sub-contracted to company’s that mainly employ illegal citizens( Mexican nationals). Even with SB1070, this will happen. It’s a crock that these people are “hiding in the shadows”. Every Federal regulator walking around the complex will see this and do nothing about it. We (Americans) just don’t look out and support each other any more.

Hummer53 on July 3, 2010 at 11:32 AM

Excellent criticism of an inane policy. But I have to add two things: first, solar power technology itself spends more in maintenance, upkeep, repairs, salaries, amortization of building costs, etc., than the energy it collects. I used to be a big proponent of solar power until I saw the math. We’re YEARS off from reaching break-even, while with coal power, we’re WAY beyond break-even, and have been for a thousand years…which is why we use coal, not because we’re evil. Second, the whole point of EVERY SINGLE ONE of Obama’s programs is to burn money that we get from debt, which will ultimately put the USA in a hole from which we cannot escape. It’s a simple Cloward-Piven strategy that Obama’s followed very closely with all his programs.

stonemeister on July 3, 2010 at 11:33 AM

Once completed, this plant will be the first large-scale solar plant in the U.S. to actually store the energy it generates for later use – even at night.

Wow, The One will give us electricity at night!

PattyJ on July 3, 2010 at 11:33 AM

“I’m from the gub’mint and I’m here to help.”

locomotivebreath1901 on July 3, 2010 at 11:35 AM

Meanwhile Spain’s all-out effort to “go green” has resulted in 20% unemployment and a nation that won’t buy (can’t stand to look at!)any photoelectric panels. So Odumbo says we need to follow their shining example.

mad scientist on July 3, 2010 at 11:36 AM

When you mix green jobs with red ink you get nothing but a big steaming pile of brown.

TheCulturalist on July 3, 2010 at 11:36 AM

Does “state of the art” photoelectic panel mean “it might actually pay for itself” instead of the old type “it wears out long before it pays for itself”.
Oh, right, ditto windmills. Perfect for government subsidy.

mad scientist on July 3, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Yes, Abengoa is a Spanish solar company, so he’s bailing out Zapatero now. The prez of the other company was previously a VP with, take a guess now, General Electric! It’s a privately held company and is funded with government funds and private funds, without disclosing how much or what percentage.

I’m disgusted with the American people. Does anybody care about this stuff except the righty blogosphere?

PattyJ on July 3, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Today, Obama has refined his approach in his weekly address, proposing to spend even more money to create jobs that will mainly disappear:

hey Champ? no thanks.

We the People.

ted c on July 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Barry never was good at math…..or history. Come to think of it, besides campaigning, he’s never been good at anything.

GarandFan on July 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM

The stupidity or mendacity (there’s no third possibility) just never ends.

ncborn on July 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM

STOP SPENDING MY MONEY! California can’t pay their bills.
Illinois can’t pay their bills. Our tax dollars to the federal and state governments should be going to PAY THE BILLS that will keep people employed.

Not $133,333 per job!

Skywise on July 3, 2010 at 11:42 AM

I know there are those who think Obama is a Machiavellian mastermind who’s sole intent is to destroy America and bring her to her knees as punishment. However, ideas like the ones Ed presents above convince me that Obama is the ultimate useful idiot. He actually thinks socialism/communism can work in my estimation. What a jackass. How dumb does he think Americans are? LOL You can’t fool all of the people all of the time, Barry.

JimP on July 3, 2010 at 11:45 AM

Instead of spending 2 billion on a boondoggle, can we just spend $9.95 and get Skippy a damned calculator? Hell, it can even be one of those solar powered ones, it that’ll make him happy.

Wind Rider on July 3, 2010 at 11:48 AM

Can we change the word created to purchased or bought?
It seems to make much more sense.

CWforFreedom on July 3, 2010 at 11:49 AM

The others are construction jobs, which will only last as long as the money flows to the project.

Yes but when the project is over they can just try to pass another jobs creating purchasing bill and demonize the pubs when the pubs dare say enough is enough.

CWforFreedom on July 3, 2010 at 11:51 AM

This is a textbook example of flailing wildly.

He’s in over his head so deep that no snorkel could save him.

He is toast.

The only gambit left is the voter drive for illegals.

This is gonna be an ugly November for the ‘rats.

CPT. Charles on July 3, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Was that saved or created? I’m losing count.

bloviator on July 3, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Please remember that Obama was going to file for bankruptcy before Ayers wrote that book for him.

jukin on July 3, 2010 at 11:54 AM

JimP on July 3, 2010 at 11:45 AM

So, by extension, the current government is a collection of useful idiots with multiple half-baked agendas and no real guidance?
At last, a pattern emerges.

mad scientist on July 3, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Ahora somos TODOS LOS españoles!

NY Conservative on July 3, 2010 at 11:55 AM

He reminds me of one of those guys that got a small business grant from Uncle Sugar, spent it all on signage, cell phones, space, and displays, and when no business showed up the first month, he had to close the doors.

kingsjester on July 3, 2010 at 11:55 AM

“Geez, even Spain got more bang for the buck in their “green” economy.”

Yeah, and they are clearly setting on a course that’ll result in a Greecian nightmare on steroids. Has it even begun to occur to anyone what going Greek would look like here in the US?

http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/10/guns-in-america/

The ‘official’ estimate is that there are some 240,000,000 guns in America, a figure considerably higher than the adult population. Surely this is a low-ball figure when taking into account that felons would never admit to possession of such, or nonfelons who purchased,or possessed one illegally. Which covers everyone that has a firearm in Chicago where there is no shortage as seen on TV of late.

My fear is that the morons in the Oval have indeed considered this and its ramifications and are quite content to see this nation rip itself apart. That way they’d accomplish their goal of us being no more “exceptional” than say, Somalia.

Archimedes on July 3, 2010 at 11:56 AM

GoldenEagle4444 on July 3, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Actually Dingy Harry is from Nevada not Arizona. The jobs won’t help him. My guess is if he grabs the ball he’ll stick a knife in it.

chemman on July 3, 2010 at 11:56 AM

The worst of it is that solar power is a net energy destroyer, per this presentation:
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/pvlect2.pdf

Ultimately, it takes more energy to build a solar panel than you will ever get out of it. Not that solar is useless, but it is only useful for some specific applications. The technology has a long way to go before it is a net power producer.

ZenDraken on July 3, 2010 at 11:58 AM

JimP on July 3, 2010 at 11:45 AM

Not so much “as punishment” as that what America has been is a road block to global Marxism. What the Founders wrought is, therefore, evil and must be torn down. As long as America stands by its foundational principles, it will be an impediment to what he, and those like him, think of as the ultimate goal of the enlightened.

TheCulturalist on July 3, 2010 at 12:00 PM

ZenDraken on July 3, 2010 at 11:58 AM

Denier and Racist. /

CWforFreedom on July 3, 2010 at 12:00 PM

Denier and Racist. /

CWforFreedom on July 3, 2010 at 12:00 PM

The laws of thermodynamics are racist.

ZenDraken on July 3, 2010 at 12:02 PM

mad scientist on July 3, 2010 at 11:36 AM

While I understand your ire it doesn’t help the argument to use the wrong terms. They are photovoltaic panels not photoelectric panels.

chemman on July 3, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Cable Guy in Chief.

Sheesh, doesn’t he have enough things to worry about? What’s next, “…a golf cart in every garage, arugula on every plate and an i-Pod (pre-loaded with Obama speeches of course) in every hand”?

When will we all look around and say, “Gee, guess what…we’re living in a Third World country!”. Most stuff missing off shelves in stores, chickens free ranging on the White House lawn, going to the communal well to draw water, huge posters of The One and BiteMe all over the place…will it happen quickly/suddenly or just a little at a time?

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 3, 2010 at 12:04 PM

Somebody send this guy to Spain already so that he can learn first-hand how destructive and economically dense his pie-in-the-sky plans are already. He has no idea how to positively impact the jobs market. ObaMao only knows how to spend other people’s money by throwing scads of it away and putting the taxpayers on the hook for the bill.

onlineanalyst on July 3, 2010 at 12:05 PM

ZenDraken on July 3, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Of course they are. I worked for a minority principal who told me she was quite proud of getting to where she got without the White man’s math and science.

chemman on July 3, 2010 at 12:05 PM

The moron we call Mr. President worries about solar energy while he and his feckless administration do a pathetic job of overseeing the cataclysm in the gulf where governors in 4 states literally beg for help. Not to mention the state that is in desperate need of border patrol. I wonder if it occurred to him that we could hire thousands of people to help secure our borders for less than the billions he wants to spend on solar factory jobs. Disgusting. He truly is either insane or mentally deficient.

scalleywag on July 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM

Well since that money would be going to Arizona for construction jobs, why not send a few more billion so Arizone can BUILD A FREAKING FENCE.

I hope Arizona announces that they are unilaterally going to start building a fence since the feds won’t.

Canadian Infidel on July 3, 2010 at 11:13 AM

Hey, let’s think outside the box here. Put all of those nifty solar panels along the fence.

onlineanalyst on July 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM

community organizer does not a leader/mathematician make…

cmsinaz on July 3, 2010 at 12:15 PM

mad scientist on July 3, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Sounds like it will be a solar thermal rather than a solar voltaic plant. They will use the suns energy to heat water to run turbines that produce electricity. They can store heated water over night.

chemman on July 3, 2010 at 12:15 PM

The private sector is generally more incompetent than the public sector.

crr6 on June 12, 2010 at 12:08 PM

Del Dolemonte on July 3, 2010 at 12:17 PM

$2B for 5,100 jobs? If you’re O’Bummer, why not?

I think he really believes he can follow his O’Care model and count on Dingy Harry and Fancy Nancy to push through tax increases that balance his budget. And unless fiscal conservatives wake up, he may succeed.

EconomicNeocon on July 3, 2010 at 12:18 PM

This man can’t do kindergarten math…

ladyingray on July 3, 2010 at 12:18 PM

will Abengoa use the e-verify system?

cmsinaz on July 3, 2010 at 12:20 PM

chemman on July 3, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Excuse me.

The bottom line is:
None of these “pie in the sky” schemes work.
-Photovoltaic panels wear out before they pay for themselves.
-Windmills are a break-even proposition at best; one bad windstorm and they could be gone.
- Storing electricity as chemical energy in batteries ensures that there will be losses in both the charging and discharging- as well as the cost and lifespan of the battery.
- I think of a hybrid car as a needlessly complicated combination of inefficient technologies that fails to achieve the desired goal. MIT has shown a better way but noone seems to be listening.

mad scientist on July 3, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Ok let me understand this. We won’t drill in Anwar because we don’t want to impact the Caribou breeding grounds. We will continue to dot our countryside with ugly wind turbines that kill birds and dot our countryside with ugly solar panel power generators that’ll fry any animal that comes within a 1000 ft.

Nice enviro-nazi movement. Real nice.

jbh45 on July 3, 2010 at 12:22 PM

chemman on July 3, 2010 at 12:15 PM

The only two ways to store energy from sunlight are thermal or chemical. Neither is very efficient (in energy or cost).
A coal burning or nuclear plant could do much more with the same money.

mad scientist on July 3, 2010 at 12:24 PM

The sterling engine version has promise but is very loud.

Electrongod on July 3, 2010 at 11:26 AM

If you can live with the noise then Solar Thermal Dishes coupled with Sterling engines can produce a but* load of electricity. This type of plant with the ability to store hot water could continue to produce electricity at night. The Arizona Desert would make a good site for these. That said it still should be privately funded.

chemman on July 3, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Ridiculous allottment of money per job, but in theory I like solar heat. If y’all recall, for a while it was the thing with the over the hill hippy crowd and the local environmental fanatics. The problem with it was, as I saw it and I’m far,far from expert, is that is was so much hassle. It was terribly expensive, it looked awful on the house and it required a large amount of time and muscle at least here in New England. Also had a complicated storage arrangement–salt containers of some kind?, never really grasped this part–for long days of cloud. All in all, most folks here, except the die hards, abandoned it after a couple years. Some still use it but few ,if any, now use if for primary heating. Wonder if this influx of money would change anything? Obama is such a slave to his base that I’ve come to doubt anything he does is basically practical except in the vote department.(sorry for length)

jeanie on July 3, 2010 at 12:27 PM

mad scientist on July 3, 2010 at 12:24 PM

I understand the energy density differences and the loss of energy every time you convert it. My point was that if they were claiming they can continue to produce electricity at night then a solar thermal system scales up better than a solar chemical system. If they did it through private funding I wouldn’t argue with them. Like you the use of Government Funds frosts me.

chemman on July 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Why doesn’t he just give us all $50K and be done with it. I for one will take my $50K and stimulate the economy.

Promise.

ramrants on July 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM

I think I’d rather have Al Capone run the country than this moron. Hey Mr. President, what are you doing to help in the gulf today? How about securing our borders? Anything? Seriously?

scalleywag on July 3, 2010 at 12:40 PM

If you can live with the noise then Solar Thermal Dishes coupled with Sterling engines can produce a but* load of electricity. This type of plant with the ability to store hot water could continue to produce electricity at night. The Arizona Desert would make a good site for these. That said it still should be privately funded.

chemman on July 3, 2010 at 12:24 PM

I’d bet that if it worked as well as you claim it WOULD be privately funded.

Ampersand on July 3, 2010 at 12:40 PM

mad scientist on July 3, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Additionally we all know this a**hat is trying to destroy conventional energy production and all of his promises to the contrary can be classified under the BIG LIE concept. For instance he authorizes loan guarantees for Nuclear plants but EPA regulations won’t allow them to be built until a National Repository site is operational. He functionally closed the Yucca Mountain Repository at the beginning of his term. Further we can’t build fast breeder reactors to reprocess fuel so essentially our nuclear energy plants will all have to close eventually.

chemman on July 3, 2010 at 12:40 PM

Ampersand on July 3, 2010 at 12:40 PM

It does work but it doesn’t have the energy density of coal or nuclear plants and therefore is not competitive with those. I would not want government involved in trying to subsidize them any more than I like the subsidies to wind farms. If the government gets its way we will be forced into using lesser methods of power production which will screw us all.

chemman on July 3, 2010 at 12:45 PM

I guess that ends the boycott of Arizona!

Vince on July 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Promise.

ramrants on July 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Ah but you are not one of the chosen.

CWforFreedom on July 3, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Hey, let’s think outside the box here. Put all of those nifty solar panels along the fence.

onlineanalyst on July 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM

Now, THERE’S a practical idea! At least they’ll be good for something….

TeresainFortWorth on July 3, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Wouldn’t it be cheaper to move the people to cities? hmmmm

tarpon on July 3, 2010 at 1:01 PM

When I told my wife about that, her response was, “gee, I need to get me one of those jobs!” With a minimum of thought, we realized that of course none of those 5100 workers is going to get paid anything like 400k. Much of it will go to the DOE for “administration,” lots will go to company executives for “bonuses,” some will go to tax collectors, some will go to Spain, etc. So lots of people will make lots of money off that $2 billion, most of whom don’t need it.

Instead of spending 2 billion on a boondoggle, can we just spend $9.95 and get Skippy a damned calculator? Hell, it can even be one of those solar powered ones, it that’ll make him happy.

Wind Rider on July 3, 2010 at 11:48 AM

I darned near soiled my armor when I saw that.

Athanasius on July 3, 2010 at 1:06 PM

I think Ed has missed the point here. Obama isn’t saying that job creation is the only benefit of these projects, or even the main benefit. He’s touting it as a side benefit. The main benefit, he claims, is:

“Once completed, this plant will be the first large-scale solar plant in the U.S. to actually store the energy it generates for later use – even at night.  And it will generate enough clean, renewable energy to power 70,000 homes.”

Moreover, he’s asserting that additional jobs, above and beyond the estimates provided, will be created in ancillary industries:

“In the short term, construction will create approximately 1,600 jobs in Arizona. What’s more, over 70 percent of the components and products used in construction will be manufactured in the USA, boosting jobs and communities in states up and down the supply chain.”

Whether or not these claims are true, I don’t know. But Obama’s position is more nuanced than Ed’s characterization would suggest.

sauropod on July 3, 2010 at 1:09 PM

It will be pure joy punishing democrats, Obama and his administration at the ballot box in Nov 2010 and 2012.

jdflorida on July 3, 2010 at 1:11 PM

I am shocked… a man who has never actually worked for a living doesn’t know the first thing about jobs? Who would have guessed?

Knuckledragger on July 3, 2010 at 1:12 PM

In the short term, construction will create approximately 1,600 jobs in Arizona.

Well then at least we can be sure that a bunch of illegals will have some well-paying jobs, for a while anyway.

AZCoyote on July 3, 2010 at 1:17 PM

There’s no market for this stuff. If there were, these companies wouldn’t need federal funding to make the investment in facilities and equipment to generate their product.

Not said in this proposal is that there will undoubtedly be more money spent to subsidize the product that these companies produce so that people will entertain the notion of buying it from them in the first place.

Sure the solar electricity will be created – at a cost that will likely be higher than current rates. Sure the solar panels will be ‘state of the art’ – but that won’t produce enough electricity for the buyer to be cost-effective, so folks won’t buy them.

The feds will no doubt step in and provide ‘rebates’ and other financial (ie: paid by taxpayers) offsets to make the usual market-driven equation work to the point where some folks will find a favorable cost/benefit ratio in it.

Bah – more government fiddling in things that the market does best.

Morons. Evil morons.

Midas on July 3, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Heym, Barry… Verizon, ATT, TMobile, Sprint, etc already have broadband in those regions. Didn’t cost the tax payer a penny.

kurtzz3 on July 3, 2010 at 1:36 PM

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