Waxman: I’ll use a conference committee to get cap-and-trade

posted at 1:36 pm on July 1, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) just handed the Senate Republicans a great excuse to filibuster any energy bills Harry Reid wants to advance in 2010.  Waxman tells The Hill that any energy bill from the Senate, regardless of whether it has a cap-and-trade component for any industry in it, will allow him to attach his version of cap-and-trade in conference committee:

House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) said he would “absolutely” seek to keep greenhouse gas limits alive in a House-Senate conference if the Senate approves energy legislation this summer that omits carbon provisions.

“It would be open in conference to consider because our bill has it,” Waxman told The Hill Wednesday.

Waxman authored a sweeping climate and energy bill that the House narrowly approved last year that merges an “economy-wide” cap-and-trade system with other provisions to boost alternative energy and energy efficiency.

Greenhouse gas caps face large hurdles in the Senate, and may be left on the cutting-room floor when the Senate debates an energy package that Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) wants to bring up next month.

Well, Waxman may certainly try to get the House version of cap-and-trade inserted in the conference report, but that won’t help move it in the Senate.  A conference report is subject to a cloture vote, just as the Senate version authored by John Kerry and Barbara Boxer is.  If Kerry and Boxer can’t move their somewhat less egregious version now, a conference report with Waxman’s version would be dead on arrival in the Senate.  Democrats like Russ Feingold have already objected to the strange allocation of carbon credits that favor California and Massachusetts, not coincidentally the two states represented by the authors of both versions of the bill.

However, that may be Waxman’s point.  He may want to derail any energy package that doesn’t include cap-and-trade, because once such a bill gets passed, it makes it more difficult to get back to C&T.  With the oil spill ongoing in the Gulf, there is some political pressure to do something about America’s direction on energy. Without that component, Congress might not address energy for another few years, and C&T isn’t popular enough to stand on its own.

That’s precisely why Republicans need to remain vigilant regarding energy policy.  Any deal conducted in the Senate between the GOP and Reid will get undone in conference.  Waxman’s practically putting  that on a billboard in Washington, and Republican leadership had better pay attention.


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Gophers are not allowed to be in committee…

right2bright on July 1, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Isn’t that what they did with FinReg when the conference committee added in the bank tax?

Skandia Recluse on July 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM

A conference report is subject to a cloture vote, just as the Senate version authored by John Kerry and Barbara Boxer is.

This in only true if you plan on following the rule of law. On the other hand, if you are democrat politician, and the laws are a quaint distraction, this may not be true.

dirtseller on July 1, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Time to go out and turn up the propane on the Henry Waxman voodoo doll.

Have to handle it with tongs, as it’s every bit as slimy and poisonous as the original.

JEM on July 1, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Yep. There it is.

It’s no wonder none of us are comforted when we hear, “They don’t have the votes to pass (fill in the blank).” As if that ever deters them from doing whatever the hell they want…

Bee on July 1, 2010 at 1:43 PM

“With the oil spill ongoing in the Gulf, there is some political pressure to do something about America’s direction on energy.”

What oil spill…?

Seven Percent Solution on July 1, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Waxman needs to get kicked out on his ass. Unfortunately, expecting California voters to do something intelligent is pretty much a lost cause.

GarandFan on July 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM

Waxman’s practically putting that on a billboard in Washington, and Republican leadership had better pay attention.

They have a gulf full of oil they can’t keep the public’s attention on. Please.

Marcus on July 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM

Filibuster everything that’s even remotely controversial until the election. Then, filibuster everything during the lame-duck session.

BuckeyeSam on July 1, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Bee on July 1, 2010 at 1:43 PM

That didn’t stop them with healthcare.

Jorge Bonilla on July 1, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Not happening, Ratface. You may get the bailout bill….errrr, financial regulation reform through, but that’s it for this Congress. The midterms are in 4 months.

Doughboy on July 1, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Try it, ya rat faced bastige.

Who elected this thing? How long has it inhabited our Congress? What is its background? Where is it from? What qualifies it to hold this seat? If you were walking down the street and you saw this thing walking toward you, would you cross the street and run? I would.

Key West Reader on July 1, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Again with the crazy pills.

We have a huge energy/security problem in the US (foreign oil) and the answer is to make it all much, much worse. What freaking universe do democrats live in? I mean, honestly.

WitchDoctor on July 1, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Senate GOP should filibuster with impunity.

Then, when the GOP wins one or both houses, the house it controls should pass legislation that it then goes to the public and clearly explains it–what it will do and why it’s necessary. It will be a stark change to TARP, stimulus, Obamacare, and FinReg, which, in each case, were sold with the slogans, “Trust us, you’ll love it when you find out about it after we pass it.”

BuckeyeSam on July 1, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Waxman is bad for the planet. Remember he never read the bill with his name on it.

seven on July 1, 2010 at 1:49 PM

They will find a way to cram it through.

forest on July 1, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Democrtas lie cheat and steal. Keep that on line one when you meet a Democrat …

tarpon on July 1, 2010 at 1:50 PM

It’s not enough that these whacked out liberals are kicking us, and beating us bloody.

They want to pummel, stab, mangle, and maim us even more next year. Then to top it off…kill us of any chance of recovery, or moving forward.

They call themselves progressives. Progressives to what? Making us live like the neanderthals of yester year?

capejasmine on July 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Let me channel Dave Weigel and call out Henry Waxman for the ratf**k he is, literally.

MadisonConservative on July 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM

If Congress is not going to legislate a budget they should just go away until the next election…

mjbrooks3 on July 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM

I smell a rat.

bloggless on July 1, 2010 at 1:52 PM

You’re busy trying to remake the World, from Congress, and the American People keep getting in the way. It must be very frustrating.

RBMN on July 1, 2010 at 1:52 PM

As far as getting Waxman’s bill through the Senate, do not think for amoment they are above using reconcilliation again. All they have to do is make it somewhat relational to a budgetary issue and they’ll go for it, paticularly if by remote posibilty the R’s take the Senate (very remote, I admit) then in the lame-duck session the outgoing Sen’s will have nothing to lose and a very real possibility of a high paying bureaucratic, supervisory position overseeing our new wonderous green economy.

Ironically, the bigger the seats won by the R’s in Nov, the greater chance of a major power grab by the D’s in the lame-duck session after. The Chicago way in politics ain’t bean bag, and the brazen corruption of power for power’s sake will itself more apparent as its control is threatened.

Bet on it.

Archimedes on July 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM

Anyone who looks like Alvin the Chipmunk has a hard time being credible. Nobody is threatened by a chipmunk, especially a demonrat chipmunk.

volsense on July 1, 2010 at 1:58 PM

BuckeyeSam on July 1, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Yep, a non-wavering solidarity of fillibuster the entirety of the progressive agenda for the rest of the term is the only sane course of action from here on out.

Archimedes on July 1, 2010 at 1:59 PM

Why is it that the Dims in Congress keep pushing one bad bill after another down our throats? This bill will do even more damage to the economy that clearly doesn’t need any more. Are all Congresscritters crazy?
Where are the Repubs to explain to the country why this is a bad idea and to offer up their alternative?

BackwardsBoy on July 1, 2010 at 2:02 PM

Meanwhile back at the motel…..Here in New England, it has been learned that the extra money being charged as a result of the Cap and Tax agreement that 13 Northeast states signed is being used to, gasp, cover pre-existing budget holes in at least 5 states and is not being used to subsidize green energy as everyone agreed to. The chairman of the Cap and Tax committee is furious and is now saying that C&T will actually cost energy users more money and not save a dime!

Johnnyreb on July 1, 2010 at 2:02 PM

While I was in Europe recently, Waxman’s interrogation of BP’s Tony Hayward was played in such a way that Waxman looked like a pompous buffoon. I think it is part of the reason Obama got smacked-down at the G20 — and why Team Bush will end up looking like beacons of effectively diplomacy in comparison. Details on the European media’s reporting, seemingly far more accurate than America’s, are here:

A Perfect Storm to Bring Obama Down

Mutnodjmet on July 1, 2010 at 2:03 PM

While I was in Europe recently, Waxman’s interrogation of BP’s Tony Hayward was played in such a way that Waxman looked like a pompous buffoon. I think it is part of the reason Obama got smacked-down at the G20 — and why Team Bush will end up looking like beacons of effective diplomacy in comparison. Details on the European media’s reporting, seemingly far more accurate than America’s, are here:

A Perfect Storm to Bring Obama Down

Mutnodjmet on July 1, 2010 at 2:03 PM

Are we still talking about this “global warming” drivel? Move on, people, the gig is up. Climategate exposed the whole thing as a fraud. Some people just don’t get it.

There’s something about this whole thing that makes me want to kill polar bears with my car.

KillerKane on July 1, 2010 at 2:04 PM

A graphic demonstration of the difference between the GOP and DNC, for those that say there’s no difference. The DNC is fighting tooth and nail to pass cap-and-trade, VAT, ObamaCare tax, etc. They’re even looking for dirty, underhanded ways to get these things done (like “deem-and-pass”, bypassing normal procedures for committees, etc.). The GOP is fighting to prevent those things from happening. I’m really hoping the Tea Parties start looking more seriously into recall efforts, if they can work, because these people have to be removed from power, right now.

Virus-X on July 1, 2010 at 2:04 PM

Beware of the Lame Duck Congress in Nov

Oil Can on July 1, 2010 at 2:06 PM

While CA voters have an opportunity this fall to put their version of C&T on hold, this rat bastard wants to extend it to everyone else in the country. Not content to just foul his own nest, he wants to take a dump on the rest of us.

I wonder if his aides have to follow him around with a whisk broom and a baggie, collecting the little Wax balls he leaves behind.

GnuBreed on July 1, 2010 at 2:07 PM

I’d bet the farm the internals for the Dems show that Boxer is OUT come January. So I wouldn’t put anything past them between now and then.

Marcus on July 1, 2010 at 2:08 PM

Waxman, wax off. And this is for you.

Mr. Joe on July 1, 2010 at 2:11 PM

All they care about is power.

David Shane on July 1, 2010 at 2:13 PM

Time to go out and turn up the propane on the Henry Waxman voodoo doll.

Have to handle it with tongs, as it’s every bit as slimy and poisonous as the original.

JEM on July 1, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Advocating violence! He’s advocating violence against Henry Waxman!!! Where are the post police?!? Where are the thread monitors?!?

AAAAOOOOOOGAAAA! AAAAOOOOOOGAAAAAA!

HotAir advocates violence against Henry Waxman!!!

misterpeasea on July 1, 2010 at 2:14 PM

A conference report is subject to a cloture vote, just as the Senate version authored by John Kerry and Barbara Boxer is.

The Obamacare conference report wasn’t subject to a cloture vote. Since Cap’n Trade is specifically about plundering industry for government revenue, it’s even less illegitimate a subject for reconciliation than Obamacare was.

Fabozz on July 1, 2010 at 2:17 PM

This is why the GOP members of Congress should do EVERYTHING to delay every action the House and Senate can take. This congressional session needs to grind to a halt. Basically, every bill becomes a trojan horse for more dem bullshit to squeak out.

They failed to pass a budget, so what further damage can be done. November can’t get here fast enough.

joeindc44 on July 1, 2010 at 2:18 PM

King Henry of nostril has spoken and will do what every he and his minions wants and whatever his minions tell him to do.

tjexcite on July 1, 2010 at 2:19 PM

A shout out to Mark Kirk for making this possible – jerk.

Sheerq on July 1, 2010 at 2:27 PM

The House Dems remind me of that bad 90s movie Speed. Remember when they had to drive the bus over the chasm? Faster, faster, faster….we have to go over the cliff FASTER!

A graphic demonstration of the difference between the GOP and DNC, for those that say there’s no difference.

Virus-X on July 1, 2010 at 2:04 PM

I agree. I’m getting weary of the “they’re all the same” idea. They’re not. Some of them–a few, at least–even realize they work for us.

Grace_is_sufficient on July 1, 2010 at 2:27 PM

this little piggy went to committee

workingforpigs on July 1, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Please take the senate mole rat’s photo down.
He’s scaring my cats.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 1, 2010 at 2:37 PM

perhaps one day Waxmen will be held account for his connections to cdr financial products, a company that is under trial for many of the muni-bond scandals that have devastated municipalities across the country.

rob verdi on July 1, 2010 at 2:37 PM

Again with the crazy pills.

We have a huge energy/security problem in the US (foreign oil) and the answer is to make it all much, much worse. What freaking universe do democrats live in? I mean, honestly.

WitchDoctor on July 1, 2010

It must be worse to justify the next step. Dictatorship is that next logical step. What evidence do you have from the past eighteen months that this is not a possibility?

Extrafishy on July 1, 2010 at 2:42 PM

They call themselves progressives. Progressives to what? Making us live like the neanderthals of yester year?

capejasmine on July 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Maybe not that much yesteryear. But even the Kerry-Lieberman bill sets CO2 emission targets in 2050 at 17% of current emissions, which (on a per capita basis) would be equivalent to the emissions in 1870, during horse-and-buggy days.

Gee, could we breed enough horses by 2050 to get our tens of millions of urban cowboys back in the saddle? We’re gonna have a boom market for phaetons and buggy whips and stable boys! And what about those sweet, fragrant emissions from horses’ @$$e$ (there are quite a few in Washington, but I digress) in the streets, attracting rats and flies? We can’t let all that methane cause global warming, can we? We’ll just have to train all those horses to use public rest rooms, capture the gas and use one-horsepower gas lights downtown.

Isn’t this wonderfully modern and progressive?

Steve Z on July 1, 2010 at 2:46 PM

It was reported weeks ago that Reid would send through a “neutered” energy bill that would go to conference after the Novemeber elections.

J_Crater on July 1, 2010 at 2:50 PM

And Susan Collins, Scotty Brown and John McCain will vote yes.

angryed on July 1, 2010 at 2:51 PM

He pushes this issue to the limits.Not to be a save the planet hero so what is really in it for him and his cronies?

docflash on July 1, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Hey Waxman, when will you begin hearings on the AG’s failure to prosecute the Black Panthers and the DOJ official who lied under oath?

…. Miss Piggy says, “Did you hold hearings yet Daddy?”

fogw on July 1, 2010 at 3:00 PM

I propose that Godwin’s Law be suspended any time we are discussing the actions of Nostrilitus Waxman.

He is soooo trying to be Obama’s Lil’ Himmler.

VelvetElvis on July 1, 2010 at 3:05 PM

Henry “Nostrildamnus” Waxman predicts C&T will pass the Sentate in his fourth quatrain of the Obama years.

hip shot on July 1, 2010 at 3:05 PM

If Waxman clipped his nose hairs, he’d have enough to make a full toupee.

Up ’til now I’ve ascribed the Democrat’s mishandling of the economy to ignorance, ideology and incompetence. If they pass cap & tax in the middle of a depression, and launch us into a double-dip depression that will make the Great Depression seem like the good times. If that happens I’ll find it impossible to believe that this wasn’t what was intended all along. So will a lot of people.

theCork on July 1, 2010 at 3:15 PM

If we destroy our economy, our CO2 output will decline slightly.

If we don’t, it may increase slightly.

China’s is expected to triple or quadruple.

Also, CO2 is trivial compared to water vapor as a greenhouse gas.

Existing “carbon markets” are almost entirely fraudulent.

OF COURSE Waxman supports this! It’s harmful to people and accomplishes nothing, why wouldn’t he support it!

Merovign on July 1, 2010 at 3:27 PM

Can we REALLY depend on the Republicans to remain vigilant?

mobydutch on July 1, 2010 at 3:29 PM

He really needs to retire and go back to hunting for truffles.

Extrafishy on July 1, 2010 at 3:34 PM

This is nothing less than a takeover of the United States of America.

paul1149 on July 1, 2010 at 3:54 PM

Job killer.

TN Mom on July 1, 2010 at 3:57 PM

I see some more deeming in our future.

BobMbx on July 1, 2010 at 4:09 PM

Henry Waxman’s delusions present a clear danger to himself, and others. He should be involuntarily committed?

Slowburn on July 1, 2010 at 4:16 PM

Rep. Henry Waxman seriously needs to get his nostrils waxed!

pilamaye on July 1, 2010 at 5:33 PM

Q: Why does Waxman have such big nostrils?
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A: ‘Cuz he has big fingers.

mrt721 on July 1, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Also, CO2 is trivial compared to water vapor as a greenhouse gas

Without the pre-industrial atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, most of the earth would be uninhabitable due to cold and ice. We are far beyond that (pre-industrial) level now.

Carbon dioxide is a moderate greenhouse gas, and certainly not as much so as water vapor, but that is not the issue here.

oakland on July 1, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Henry Waxman, enemy of the United States of America.

Inanemergencydial on July 1, 2010 at 10:17 PM