Obama: American citizenship “not a matter of blood or birth”

posted at 12:55 pm on July 1, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Well, actually, it is a matter of birth, at least, in the sense of natural-born citizenship.  The Fourteenth Amendment makes that all too clear, which is why the issue of “anchor babies” has been part of the immigration debate for the last several years.  Those opposed to that reading of the Constitution might like what Barack Obama had to say about it in his widely-anticipated speech on immigration today (click the picture to watch):

“Being an American is not a matter of blood or birth, it’s a matter of faith,” President Obama declared at a speech he gave on immigration.

Obama also blamed “resentment” to new immigrants to poor economic conditions.

“Now, we can’t forget that this process of immigration and eventual inclusion has often been painful. Each new wave of immigrants has generated fear and resentment towards newcomers, particularly in times of economic upheaval,” Obama said.

We know what Obama meant in this passage — a similarity to those who have expressed the notion that they were Americans before ever setting foot in the US, thanks to their love of liberty.  However, the people expressing that concept came to the US through legal immigration, and didn’t presume to break our laws in order to express their desire to live in freedom.  They understood that the aspirational concept of being American and the legal status of American citizenship (or even residency) are two completely different things.

Besides, if being an American is a matter of faith, then the religion in question is devotion to the rule of law.  We have created the laws by which we live through representative democracy within a framework set by our Constitution.  Breaking the law to get into the country isn’t an expression of faith; using Obama’s construct, it’s actually heresy.

Obama and his open-borders allies attempt to blur the difference between illegal and legal immigration.  Almost no one of consequence opposes the latter.  Everyone of the “faith” of Americanism should insist on enforcing the laws against the former.  Unfortunately, this President — and many of those who have come before him — have proven rather faithless in this task.


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Just watch the mass exodus begin.

Pcoop on July 1, 2010 at 2:10 PM

The dems will give them a low interest loan, that will be forgiven if they don’t pay it back.
No problemo…

right2bright on July 1, 2010 at 2:19 PM

I have to agree now with those who are calling for Bozo’s impeachment. With this speech he is advocating anarchy and lawlessness.

He is saying that reality is what someone wishes it to be, not what it actually is. So either he is insane or he is telling everyone the law is a figment of their imagination.

Either way, this guy is incapable of carrying out the duties and responsibilities of his office. He may in fact have committed a high crime in this case, by publicly instructing people to violate the constitution.

dogsoldier on July 1, 2010 at 2:08 PM

Dittos. Every day brings another outrage from this regime. They are ALL corrupt and they must ALL go, right now!!!

jdawg on July 1, 2010 at 2:19 PM

merely by saying that is my desire.

hawksruleva on July 1, 2010 at 2:17 PM

…and several university’s would wave tuition for you, as well as you not having to pay taxes…

right2bright on July 1, 2010 at 2:20 PM

Considering he was born in Kenya, I imagine he believes that’s true.

ahem on July 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM

Being an American is not a matter of blood or birth, it’s a matter of faith

Ed asks what religion, Rush suggests it must be the rule of law. You both missed it. It’s the worship of Obama. If you are loyal to and worshipful of Obama, you qualify for US Citizenship. That’s what it all means. Obama the warlord, he’ll give you stuff.

Skandia Recluse on July 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM

“Being an American is not a matter of blood or birth, it’s a matter of faith,”

And you, 0bama have, MAYBE, at best, ONE and a half of those attributes. And it sure doesn’t include the faith thing.

LegendHasIt on July 1, 2010 at 2:25 PM

Brack Obama talking about what it means to be an American is like Christoper Hitchens talking about what it means to be a Christian.

Tav on July 1, 2010 at 2:26 PM

Fatal on July 1, 2010 at 2:07 PM

There is a very nice and large park around where I live. Every weekend and all holidays the place is filled up and enjoyed by, mostly, Mexican families. EXCEPT on the 4th of July. It is pretty much empty…like it’s a statement. It really makes me want to cry.

betsyz on July 1, 2010 at 2:30 PM

In my plan, step one is counting the illegals.

a) Seal, patrol, monitor, or shut down to the extent possible, the border for sixty days.

b) Make an announcement that every illegal alien in the US has sixty (or how ever many) days to register as being in the country. Make it simple & convenient; use post offices, DMV’s or whatever.

c) Then when the government does have a plan, whether it be total amnesty, deportation, or something in between, ONLY the illegal immigrants who registered will be eligible. You didn’t register, you are deported. Period. Anyone who comes across the border later and didn’t register, deported. Period. Stop the bleeding.

It is not possible for the government to produce a plan when they don’t know the extent of the problem. Giving the illegals an ultimatum between registering and potentially staying legally or guaranteed deportation, seems like a logical first-step solution.

pain train on July 1, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Brack Obama talking about what it means to be an American is like Christoper Hitchens talking about what it means to be a Christian.

Tav on July 1, 2010 at 2:26 PM

Gosh, I didn’t think Hitchens hated Christians that much.

CJ on July 1, 2010 at 2:31 PM

razor wire, night vision and a good long range rifle with silencer should get the word out real fast.

workingforpigs on July 1, 2010 at 2:34 PM

Giving the illegals an ultimatum between registering and potentially staying legally or guaranteed deportation, seems like a logical first-step solution.

Given recent history, we have no credibility on that point.

LASue on July 1, 2010 at 2:34 PM

Dowd and friend on the outskirts of Riyadh. “It’s funny,” she writes, “to see how many people have named their camels ‘Barack.’”

From the Vanity Fair link above…LOL

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 1, 2010 at 2:34 PM

It is not possible for the government to produce a plan when they don’t know the extent of the problem. Giving the illegals an ultimatum between registering and potentially staying legally or guaranteed deportation, seems like a logical first-step solution.

pain train on July 1, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Excellent point and a good plan. We have to start somewhere.

txsurveyor on July 1, 2010 at 2:35 PM

“Being an American is not a matter of blood or birth, it’s a matter of faith,”

WTF does this even mean?

lorien1973 on July 1, 2010 at 1:04 PM

It means everyone on the planet is a US citizen. They just haven’t been assigned a Social Security number yet.

BobMbx on July 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM

Shout out from Rush……excellent!

cmsinaz on July 1, 2010 at 2:37 PM

Actually, PeBO is correct. It has caused much fear and resentment. From Democrats, who were quite often against LEGAL immigration, and even included it in their Party platforms.

William Teach on July 1, 2010 at 2:17 PM

Well said. Most Americans don’t care what color the person living next to them is, as long as they don’t cause problems. And previous waves of immigrants did a good job of learning from the American way of life while retaining their individuality.

Many Mexican immigrants break the law to get here, and then resist Americanization. They refuse to melt in the melting pot. If our flag makes you angry, or you can’t stand reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, maybe you shouldn’t be here.

That goes for Dems, too.

hawksruleva on July 1, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Troubles me to hear this and to trace the lines of his thinking.

“preserve, protect and defend the constitution.” Inaugural pledge.

Guess those words were also a matter of perspective, state of mind or some other bizarre logic.

koolbrease on July 1, 2010 at 2:43 PM

It is not possible for the government to produce a plan when they don’t know the extent of the problem. Giving the illegals an ultimatum between registering and potentially staying legally or guaranteed deportation, seems like a logical first-step solution.

pain train on July 1, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Nonsense. If you don’t know where the illegals are, how are you going to give them an ultimatum? If you DO know where they are, then escort them to a train station or airport, by them a one-way ticket, and send them back to their homeland.

hawksruleva on July 1, 2010 at 2:45 PM

And you, 0bama have, MAYBE, at best, ONE and a half of those attributes. And it sure doesn’t include the faith thing.

LegendHasIt on July 1, 2010 at 2:25 PM

Brack Obama talking about what it means to be an American is like Christoper Hitchens talking about what it means to be a Christian.

Tav on July 1, 2010 at 2:26 PM

Nails hit hammer!

Schadenfreude on July 1, 2010 at 2:48 PM

Can we please have a caption contest on this?

Schadenfreude on July 1, 2010 at 2:50 PM

“Being an American is not a matter of blood or birth, it’s a matter of faith,”

So his next argument is that since the first amendment states congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof (paraphrase i think), all of our immigration laws are unconstitutional?

/sarc

Fighton03 on July 1, 2010 at 2:53 PM

Can we please have a caption contest on this?

Schadenfreude on July 1, 2010 at 2:50 PM

Glory to ME in the highest….

Fighton03 on July 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM

We do not need ANY immigration law reforms. The laws aren’t the problems, it the lack of enforcement.
NO plan should have illegals registering for anything. If your illegal leave for your home country. If you fail to leave of your own accord, then we will deport you.
I suspect once services and jobs are cuts off because they know enforcement is ongoing, most will oack up and leave…no costs.
Prices for medical care will immediately go down, jobs will open up, crime will go down.
Obama is trying to make this about “faith” because he certainly doesn’t have the law on his side, nor common sense.

LeeSeneca on July 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM

Obama and his open-borders allies attempt to blur the difference between illegal and legal immigration. Almost no one of consequence opposes the latter. Everyone of the “faith” of Americanism should insist on enforcing the laws against the former.

Well it sure will be easier to enforce the laws against illegal immigration when comprehensive reform is passed and a tiny fine and legal status is reward for being illegal. People of consequence should oppose the extreme amount of legal immigration.

PrezHussein on July 1, 2010 at 2:57 PM

“Being an American is not a matter of blood or birth, it’s a matter of faith,”

What twaddle. If citizenship isn’t a matter of birth, then what the hell am I? I’m the granddaughter of an immigrant. If I have faith that I’m of Italian descent, does that make me a citizen of Italy?

Barry needs to get a speech writer with an IQ bigger than his shoe size.

CantCureStupid on July 1, 2010 at 2:58 PM

Obama: American citizenship “not a matter of blood or birth

Just like everything else,
Obama manages to make the issue
of US citizenship
ABOUT HIMSELF

macncheez on July 1, 2010 at 3:12 PM

Doesn’t care about the law. Never did.

Merovign on July 1, 2010 at 3:21 PM

Is it just me, or is BamBam speaking very slowly and/or slurring his words again? He almost sounds like he did right after Scott Brown’s election….

TeresainFortWorth on July 1, 2010 at 3:24 PM

Geeze, what is up with wordpress today? I think It just ate my comment, and what’s worse, I’m too lazy to try to reconstruct it (and it was just a couple sentences).

Oh well, sucks for you all. I guess you’ll just have to do without my brilliant insight, which was probably already posted earlier in the thread anyway.

RINO in Name Only on July 1, 2010 at 3:27 PM

OK, I am again banging my head on my computer desk. Obama’s creed is, Let’s just throw out the constitution and the rule of law out and make it up as we go along.

SC.Charlie on July 1, 2010 at 3:49 PM

“Obama: American citizenship “not a matter of blood or birth”

All joking aside…

… “It” has just insulted all the men and women buried in our military graves that paid the ultimate price to protect American Citizenship.

Seven Percent Solution on July 1, 2010 at 3:51 PM

If you fail to leave of your own accord, then we will deport you.
LeeSeneca on July 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM

Unless and until the Republicans (real conservatives) can pull off a sweep and control all three branches of the federal gov’t (in itself a longshot), that ain’t happenin’.

We can continue to do nothing, as we have for two decades, and let the problem continue to grow, or we can come up with solutions.

Will we end up with an expanded guest worker program giving illegals an opportunity to stay legally while the apply for citizenship? I don’t know nor does anyone else.

Maybe we stipulate any illegal has to return to their county of origin and then come back across legally, possibly after a certain waiting period (as has been discussed).

What happens if the libs offer blanket amnesty to the “12M” illegals and then whoops, it was actually 20M?
The bottom line is whatever we do we have to have a head count before we do it.

If my idea sucks I’m open to suggestions. They sure aren’t coming out of Washington.

pain train on July 1, 2010 at 4:00 PM

Does this mean that Obama would approve of Presidente Calderone to occupy the office of Speaker? Treasury? SCOTUS?

TN Mom on July 1, 2010 at 4:09 PM

WE ARE SO DOOMED

unseen on July 1, 2010 at 4:09 PM

7%Sol at 3:51 PM

That one truly made me gasp.

GGMac on July 1, 2010 at 4:12 PM

This is a President who sets out to divide, and conquer.

The immigration debate is tailor made for his excuse building to ram amnesty down our throats with an executive order.

So long as one Hispanic calls his office and cries about how unfair and mean our laws are, in the divided nation he’s exacerbated that’s the perfect validation for him to drive his agenda like a stake through Americas heart.

Speakup on July 1, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Barry Hussein is a damn fool. The United States is not some theoretical construct to which every person on the planet has some claim; it’s a sovereign nation founded by and for an identifiable group of people, for the benefit of themselves and their descendants. (That’s what the Founders were talking about when they said they wanted to secure the blessings of liberty to themselves and their posterity, Barry.) And according to our laws, citizenship most certainly is a matter of blood and birth. To suggest otherwise flies in the face of historical fact, current laws, and common sense.

AZCoyote on July 1, 2010 at 4:25 PM

The audience must have been quiet. Even Obama’s magic trick making a pair of golden eagles appear in his hands here doesn’t work.

Tough crowd or what?

Drained Brain on July 1, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Well, this crappy, lying POS statist finally declared war on us.

“Rules that ultimately are unenforceable…”? Really? And you’re doing your damnedest not to enforce them, aren’t you, champ?

Obama also blamed “resentment” to new immigrants to poor economic conditions.

No, resentment – if that is the correct term – exists because a large number of new immigrants have swarmed over the border illegally, aided and abetted by you and your fellow statists. And, based on what you’ve said today, you’ll continue to turn a blind eye to enforcing the borders so the flow of people coming here illegally will continue, if not grow.

ya2daup on July 1, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Can we please have a caption contest on this?
Schadenfreude on July 1, 2010 at 2:50 PM

Red Obama’s Bull “it gives you wings”

pain train on July 1, 2010 at 4:35 PM

EXCEPT on the 4th of July. It is pretty much empty…like it’s a statement. It really makes me want to cry.

betsyz on July 1, 2010 at 2:30 PM

LOL. We jet ski on the weekends and last year, like clockwork these Mexican families would show up in 3 vans. They were all dressed up in their clothes, and they launched this POS wooden boat. They’d all cling to the sides and go swimming in their good clothes. They’d drag picnic tables from across the road and then sit on top of them and change their kids’ diapers. They always left a mess.

We are happy that they’re no longer among us. They must have left due to the Obamaconomy. Good riddance.

Key West Reader on July 1, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Is it just me, or is BamBam speaking very slowly and/or slurring his words again? He almost sounds like he did right after Scott Brown’s election….

TeresainFortWorth on July 1, 2010 at 3:24 PM

He looks ill lately.

Key West Reader on July 1, 2010 at 4:43 PM

He looks ill lately.

Key West Reader on July 1, 2010 at 4:43 PM

not feelin’ the love perhaps…

cmsinaz on July 1, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Besides, if being an American is a matter of faith, then the religion in question is devotion to the rule of law. We have created the laws by which we live through representative democracy within a framework set by our Constitution. Breaking the law to get into the country isn’t an expression of faith; using Obama’s construct, it’s actually heresy.

I am not defending Obama, in fact I refuse to even listen to his speech. The man annoys me far too much for that.

However, I do think that it is possible for some people born elsewhere to become great Americans. The desire for liberty is something we are told that all men have a right to. Like Reagan said, we are the shining city on the hill and for years people from all over the world have come here to become Americans.

I am not saying illegal immigration is okay, but my ancestors came here when all you had to do was be brave enough to cross the water. And back then, the US did not give people a lot of free stuff either. So, if you want to look at it that way, then I suppose you could make the case that being an American is about more than blood or birth. But I doubt if that is what Obama is talking about. I am sure he is just trying to cause a riff among Republicans and create voters for Democrats.

Terrye on July 1, 2010 at 4:50 PM

He looked to me today like he was wearing eyeshadow.

kingsjester on July 1, 2010 at 4:52 PM

He doesn’t use the word “citizenship” in his speech. And he’s correct that much of America is based on immigrants who believed in the concept of liberty so much that they were willing to leave their homelands and relocate to the US.

Jimbo3 on July 1, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Well, actually, it is a matter of birth, at least, in the sense of natural-born citizenship. The Fourteenth Amendment makes that all too clear, which is why the issue of “anchor babies” has been part of the immigration debate for the last several years.
I guess Obama is coming out against the 14th Amendment.

tetriskid on July 1, 2010 at 12:58 PM

And he also is againt the 1st Amendment.

If being American is a matter of “faith” then there’s a state religion.

malclave on July 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM

This man truly does not understand what it means to be an American citizen, or appearantly that we are a soverign nation with our own rules, laws and borders. An aide should quietly pull him aside, read the Constitution to him and explain to him that even though through a fluke and deception of massive proportion he actually is President of said country and explian the duties and ideals he swore to uphold.

Koa on July 1, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Obama: American citizenship “not a matter of blood or birth” or birth certificate… /s

elfman on July 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM

Obama is a True Believer in the crap of being ‘citizens of the world’. He would have no trouble with the concept of abolishing national borders, and even one world government from the UN. If the UN Charter were proposed to become the ‘constitution of the world, superseding and even replacing all other nations’ constitutions, I suspect Obama’s envoy to the UN would be raising a hand to vote for it. His mad dash to devaluate American citizenship by making it bread and circuses to the rabble is utterly sickening. From that book the Dalai Obama hates so much:

“Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.” Matt, 7:6

Not true?

Guess again.

The Dalai Obama, whose intelligence is so far off the charts that it can’t be measured, and his acolytes, are just too stupid to realize this.

Virus-X on July 1, 2010 at 5:24 PM

Obama: American citizenship “not a matter of blood or birth”

That one is going to go over really big with the Lakota, Cherokee, Cheyenne, Apache, and the other Native Peoples Nations, who happened to be here long before the original settlers showed up, and who still have several things that the government needs to settle with them…………like returning the Black Hills to the Lakota Nation for starts.

pilamaye on July 1, 2010 at 5:27 PM

No sweat, America. Barry’s administration will be in the dustbin of history before you know it. Hang tough, folks.

Christien on July 1, 2010 at 5:29 PM

However, the people expressing that concept came to the US through legal immigration, and didn’t presume to break our laws in order to express their desire to live in freedom.

This is so obvious that it leads me to believe that the politicians who are for amnesty or either very ignorant people, certainly not as smart as I am, or they are very dishonest people.

Vince on July 1, 2010 at 5:30 PM

Anyone here heard about this; There was another shooting in Juarez, Mexico yesterday, (not news in itself because at least one person is murdered by drug lords everyday there), but several of the bullets, fired from automatic weapons, came right over the border and hit El Paso’s (Texas) City Hall. One of them hit a ninth floor window, flew through the window and landed in a picture frame on the wall of an office, the others lodged into the exterior stucco walls of the building. Our City Hall is about a mile from the border, farther than many other areas and buildings in the city, so it is miraculous that no person was hit. Our Texas AG is livid, and wrote a letter to Obama slamming him and the Federal Government, and demanding that they do something. Here is the link to the article and letter.
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/97513529.html

Susanboo on July 1, 2010 at 5:30 PM

I think when Obama speaks of citizenship as being a matter of faith, I think he speaking in the progressive sense that we should have faith in the government in its ability to administer “social justice” by making all illegals…legal.

However, if Obama was a real Con law professor he would have understood that the 14th amendment was never to apply to anchor babies.

The man who drafted the 14th amendment, Senator Jacob Howard, said this:

“Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.” (Source.)

Even the Founding Fathers never intended for anchor babies to be a basis for citizenship:

Consider this point:

In sum, this legacy of feudalism—which we today call birthright citizenship—was decisively rejected as the ground of American citizenship by the Fourteenth Amendment and the Expatriation Act of 1868. It is absurd, then, to believe that the Fourteenth Amendment confers the boon of American citizenship on the children of illegal aliens. Nor does the denial of birthright citizenship visit the sins of the parents on the children, as is often claimed, since the children of illegal aliens born in the U.S. are not being denied anything to which they have a right. Their allegiance should follow that of their parents during their minority. Furthermore, it is difficult to fathom how those who defy American law can derive benefits for their children by their defiance—or that any sovereign nation would allow such a thing. (Source.)

Conservative Samizdat on July 1, 2010 at 5:31 PM

When will this nightmare be over???

yoda on July 1, 2010 at 5:34 PM

More signs of the apocalypse.

Otis B on July 1, 2010 at 5:37 PM

There’s only one problem with Obamas comparison of these illegals and those who took and are taking the proper path for citizenship,the undocumented immigrants as he calls them do not want to be assimilated into this Country. They just want the benefits.I live in Northern California and believe me there are many of these people here. No American flags just Mexican flags. No English,and no respect for property as witnessed by their trashing of rentals with ten to a one bedroom. These are generalizations but are true of most here illegally.

sandee on July 1, 2010 at 5:39 PM

7%Sol at 3:51 PM

That one truly made me gasp.

GGMac on July 1, 2010 at 4:12 PM

At least now we know why Memorial Day and laying the Wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier wasn’t such a big deal to this jackass…

… It’s almost like he wasn’t raised as an American.

Seven Percent Solution on July 1, 2010 at 5:42 PM

According to my high school history, citizenship is determined by 2 principles: jus solis, and jus sanguinis. Literally, these mean “Law of the soil” and “Law of blood.”

In other words, citizenship is determined by where you are born and who you are born to.

In other other words, Obama the Constitutional Professor [suuure] needs to google jus solis and jus sanguinis.

I knew this before finishing high school, so I’m not sure why you wouldn’t learn it after Columbia and Harvard.

tom on July 1, 2010 at 5:44 PM

This man truly does not understand what it means to be an American citizen, or appearantly that we are a soverign nation with our own rules, laws and borders. An aide should quietly pull him aside, read the Constitution to him and explain to him that even though through a fluke and deception of massive proportion he actually is President of said country and explian the duties and ideals he swore to uphold.

Koa on July 1, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Unfortunately, you’re dead wrong. Obama knows full-well what American citizenship is about, and it’s requirement.

He just doesn’t care.

His entire campaign to the stupid, remember, was based on “change”. He quite obviously wants to change what it means to even be an “American”. He would gladly trade away national sovereignty, our national rules of law, and our borders, if it meant we could throw them into the rest of the world’s pool, making us really “one world”. Just not under God. Obama is too ignorant to understand the Constitution, and his sycophants are hand-picked because they have the same hate obscured blind spot. The Constitution is a hated shackle, described by Obama, himself, as being nothing more than a statement of ‘negative liberties’, just telling People and the (Big) government what it can’t do. He takes those limitations that people are demanding he observes as a personal rebuke against him, and, as Rush Limbaugh has pointed out on more than one occasion, Obama is someone that grew up without ever being criticized, and is unable to take even the most constructive of criticisms.

Honestly, I think he swore falsely, which is a crime. I believe that he spoke the words of the Oath, only because he had to to get into the White House. I don’t think he meant a word of it. If he had the chance, he would organize a new Constitutional Convention, stocked with what he, and the rest of the leftists, called the ‘best and brightest’:

Sonia Sotomayor

Harry Reid

Nancy Pelosi

Hillary Clinton

Michael Moore

Oprah Winfrey

Rahm Emanuel

George Soros

Arianna Huffington

James Carville

Warren Buffett

Colin Powell

Henry Waxman

Charles Schumer

Cass Sunstein

Barney Frank

Robert Byrd

John Kerry

Wesley Clark

Jesse Jackson

Al Sharpton

John Dingell

Joe Lieberman

Al Franken

Steny Hoyer

Ralph Nader

etc.

Say hello to the new Founders.

Virus-X on July 1, 2010 at 5:45 PM

Terrye on July 1, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Please never confuse immigration with being a foreign criminal again.

Thanks.

tetriskid on July 1, 2010 at 5:48 PM

My solution is to build a wall/electric fence along the entire border, using free labor provided by illegal immigrants who want to stay on THIS side of the border. Every “law-abiding illegal” [heh] who builds the wall by day and takes compulsory English lessons at night gets to apply for citizenship. Everyone else goes home.

Logic on July 1, 2010 at 5:53 PM

novaculus on July 1, 2010 at 1:52 PM
You are exactly right! A couple people I work with told me they have NO allegiance to our government, even though they are citizens. I printed the Oath of Citizenship and they both said it didn’t matter. Of course they support obama, he is just what they came from and that’s what scares me.

Schadenfreude on July 1, 2010 at 2:50 PM
How about “Strangling the Eagles….

Bambi on July 1, 2010 at 5:55 PM

You must admit, it’s in his interest to deny that one must be born in the USA to be a citizen.

In his personal interest. On many, many levels.

jeff_from_mpls on July 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Uh, this will be tomorrow’s Obamateurism, won’t it? Otherwise, I’ll be very disappointed.

tom on July 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM

Obama: American citizenship “not a matter of blood or birth”

Does he know something we don’t? lol

jeanie on July 1, 2010 at 6:11 PM

He doesn’t use the word “citizenship” in his speech. And he’s correct that much of America is based on immigrants who believed in the concept of liberty so much that they were willing to leave their homelands and relocate to the US.

Jimbo3 on July 1, 2010 at 4:55 PM

He said American. Please dimwit. With word games like that maybe you are an attorney. Nah.

As for the last part of your comment that was heavy and thought out. / Gee enlightening. / You’re a tool .

CWforFreedom on July 1, 2010 at 6:12 PM

BRAZEN, the audacity to make those claims BEFORE Kagan’s up/down vote. Obama has faith in his Republicans.

maverick muse on July 1, 2010 at 6:13 PM

It means everyone on the planet is a US citizen. They just haven’t been assigned a Social Security number yet.

BobMbx on July 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM

Or, in Obama’s case, several Social Security numbers.

Daggett on July 1, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Obama: American citizenship “not a matter of blood or birth”

….but according to the Constitution and our immigration laws, American citizenship is exactly that..a matter of blood ( citizenship by naturalization )
or
birth( citizenship by birth )
Is there a 3rd category ?

macncheez on July 1, 2010 at 6:31 PM

According to my high school history, citizenship is determined by 2 principles: jus solis, and jus sanguinis.

tom on July 1, 2010 at 5:44 PM

SCOTUS disagrees.

rukiddingme on July 1, 2010 at 6:32 PM

However, if Obama was a real Con law professor he would have understood that the 14th amendment was never to apply to anchor babies.

Conservative Samizdat on July 1, 2010 at 5:31 PM

SCOTUS disagrees.

rukiddingme on July 1, 2010 at 6:38 PM

Terrye on July 1, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Please never confuse immigration with being a foreign criminal again.

Thanks.

tetriskid on July 1, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Terrye’s comment was subjective and didn’t really apply to Ed’s final statement, though Ed’s last words triggered her reference.

Her own precedence is out of context as an apology for our current dilemma dealing with the massive illegal aliens entering the US to conduct organized crime for the Mexican government’s drug cartels and human slave trade.

“Let me be perfectly clear”–as Obama says himself. It takes a thoroughly corrupt US government to provide a Mexican President a Piñata to bash IN CONGRESS. There exist corrupt elements within the US government that have had a hankering to import drugs. That federal abuse of corrupt power was made all too obvious by our ENDURING engagements in the Vietnam, the South American junta fundings, and our Afghanistan Wars. Even when considered as nation building wars, they remain hopeless wars because the natives aren’t willing to take their own responsibility to effectively govern as constitutional republics. Hence the cover war against drugs that in effect remains light years behind organized crime within our federal government.

Mugged By Reality

maverick muse on July 1, 2010 at 6:41 PM

pain train on July 1, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Good point. In the meantime, I’m for im,peaching Obambi. The likelihood of that happening are higher than your solution. Too bad Shrub couldn’t find the cajones to force the illegals to register, including biometrics, before trying to ram thru the Juan-Gramnesty act when he had the chance.

How’d Dubya’s compassionate conservatism work for us? Squat for the people and a giant leap forward for big gubmint.

AH_C on July 1, 2010 at 6:45 PM

When will this nightmare be over???

yoda on July 1, 2010 at 5:34 PM

Soon. I often wonder if we will have relief when he is out of office or just that momentary sense of satisfaction when a criminal who committed a heinous crime is found guilty in a court of law but then you realize nobody really won due to the disastrous impact they created.

sherry on July 1, 2010 at 6:53 PM

Its really getting to the point that everytime this guy opens his mouth the first thought I get is “Does anyone even proof read his crap anymore? Shouldn’t someone correct the stupidity he’s about to unleash?”

Rbastid on July 1, 2010 at 7:00 PM

“Being an American is not a matter of blood or birth, it’s a matter of faith,” President Obama declared at a speech he gave on immigration.

You mean all I have to do is BELIEVE I’m an American citizen, and I am? I don’t have to worry about whether I came here legally? Who knew?

NoFanofLibs on July 1, 2010 at 7:22 PM

This Fourth of July weekend, we Americans will, as we do each year at this time, raise Old Glory a little higher, cheer fireworks, and remember the blessing we share as citizens of this great and free land. And as we celebrate our independence and pause to give thanks for our liberty, let us also remember that the freedoms we cherish are never more than a generation away from extinction. It’s up to each of us to preserve, protect, and defend America’s precious heritage.

– President Ronald Reagan
2 July 1988

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=36078

dissent555 on July 1, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Well, maybe Obama knows about some exceptions to the law?

For the record, Traction Control understands it to be a matter of law.

It is a Yes or No question based upon someone’s having met (or not having met) the qualifications for Citizenship.

USCitizen on July 1, 2010 at 7:46 PM

“Freedom is something that cannot be passed on in the blood stream, or genetically. And it’s never more than one generation away from extinction. Every generation has to learn how to protect and defend it, or it’s gone and gone for a long, long time.”
– Ronald Reagan
Hillsdale College, 10 November 1977

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/7561

Not passed on in the blood, but paid for time and time again in the blood of those who gave the last full measure of their devotion.

Yeah, America is something special, Mr. President. It’s not just some other place that people want to go to.

dissent555 on July 1, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Is there a 3rd category ?

macncheez on July 1, 2010 at 6:31 PM

No.

Some have tried to make a case for native born (jus soli) but not natural born (jus sanguinis) citizens, but the 14th Amendment and SCOTUS case linked above are quite clear about jus soli being the requirement.

rukiddingme on July 1, 2010 at 8:04 PM

Terrye on July 1, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Please never confuse immigration with being a foreign criminal again.

Thanks.

tetriskid on July 1, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Terrye’s comment was subjective and didn’t really apply to Ed’s final statement, though Ed’s last words triggered her reference.

Her own precedence is out of context as an apology for our current dilemma dealing with the massive illegal aliens entering the US to conduct organized crime for the Mexican government’s drug cartels and human slave trade.

I did not confuse anyone with anyone. I simply made the point that many many years ago people came here without any real need to register or anything of the kind. They came here for a better life, or in pursuit of liberty..or both. However, today we have a different situation concerning illegal immigration. So while, I do agree that being an American is not just a matter of birth or blood, I don’t honestly think that has anything to do with this issue.

Terrye on July 1, 2010 at 8:09 PM

He also claimed that the current immigration law can’t be inforced because our borders are too long.

If he believes that, why not bring suit to nullify them?

Otherwise, he should keep his oath of office, or be impeached. He’s announced that he won’t do it, and is campaigning against the laws he’s sworn to enforce. To me that’s impeachable.

flataffect on July 1, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Giving the illegals an ultimatum between registering and potentially staying legally or guaranteed deportation, seems like a logical first-step solution.

Ahhhhh, they WHOLE point commiemander zero makes is it is IMPOSSIBLE to secure the border or deport them. So how is there ANY logic to the comment of GUARANTEED deportation?

The only GUARANTEE is anyone can come here and demand we give them benefits. The end. There is no other guarantee. If they can not do any enforcement now, how are they going to do it later? Is our education system that broken to produce complete illogical blather from over 50% of the population? If so, then time for a new society and country built on the ashes of the old dead one.

ray on July 1, 2010 at 8:23 PM

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errye on July 1, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Please never confuse immigration with being a foreign criminal again.

Thanks.

tetriskid on July 1, 2010 at 5:48 PM

I went back and reread my comment and I have no idea where you got the idea that this is what I was saying.

Terrye on July 1, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Just because he has no country ….

OldEnglish on July 1, 2010 at 8:27 PM

Say hello to the new Flounders.

Virus-X on July 1, 2010 at 5:45 PM

Fixed that for ya.

James on July 1, 2010 at 8:31 PM

If I were writing the Immigration Reform laws, I’d make the first condition of amnesty a requirement that the pardoned illegals permanently waive any and all right to vote in ANY election in the US. This would also apply to all current and future children of the pardoned.

The next part of the reform would require absolute proof of identity via thumbprints for all registered voters at all future US elections – local, state, and federal.

This would result in keeping the US under its current two party system that the Demoncrats are working so feverishly to abolish in their version of immigracion reform.

Hey, Mr. Illegal, what can I say – you have to give to get, si?

Sweet_Thang on July 1, 2010 at 8:31 PM

BO lies. Always. He is a criminal. That is incontestable.

proconstitution on July 1, 2010 at 8:56 PM

If it was Italians or whatever from overseas it wouldn’t be quite the same. This is a group that comes from a country America has had wars with on and off these last 200 years. These people have designs on regaining territory lost in prior wars. It aint the same you dumbshit Obozo. You would think a man who has half the blood of a people who cut one another’s balls off for territorial encrouchment (Kenyans) would get it. Maybe he does.

I realize the 20 dollar lawn service is like the greatest invention for males since the bj but that doesn’t change facts. If I am desperate economically I cannot rob another man or business out of moral imperative. What the mexicans and central americans are doing is no different. My kids are losing opportunity because some hungrier, scrappier kids are taking up the jobs by sneaking in and getting busy.

I see it first hand. My company is almost 80% hispanic. Most of the young workers are latin. They have jobs. My kids don’t. It’s really crazy. It’s like a generation of Anglos received a great education, got great jobs and then had kids that won’t/can’t compete with what’s coming at them. Oh and we had teh advantage of a functioning border patrol keeping the borders patrolled. I could get a job as a dishwasher at 16. My kids would have to fight their way across the field against the Apocalypto Mayans to get a shot at one of those entry level jobs today. And if he got across the field, the employer would just appear and rule him out due to age or whatever. Why take a young kid when you can get a full grown, non-complaining, civil-rightless mexican. Some employers have to go to jail for this to stop.

pc on July 1, 2010 at 9:08 PM

Obama’s Primary Lie: we must do something because our immigration policies are broken.

Our immigration policies are UNENFORCED. Not broken.

The only thing broken is Obama’s sense of duty to the country.

Brokeback Obama.

Conniver-In-Chief.

profitsbeard on July 1, 2010 at 9:13 PM

Hi. I just read his argument, and I am baffled as to why this person is still POTUS. I didn’t read here since I have things to do, but again: I was born and raised in the island of Puerto Rico, where we are Americans by birth. As in any other state, there is a culture that is very ingrained in each of us. There is a faith system that is highly CONSERVATIVE, contrary to what many try to portray all over the place.

There are privileges and advantages for being an American. Being an American is a matter of birth, of pride, of love of country and love for others (even if other Americans don’t love you back, as it is my case here). Blood, human blood aside from type, it’s universal; my husband works around blood all friggin’ day for all his career, until he retires. Blood has often been given this meaning of privilege, of selfishness to look either petulant or arrogant. Blood is merely a bodily fluid.

I have learned throughout my whole life to love AMERICA, the UNITED STATES, look up at the eagle, wave the American flag with pride as much as the Puerto Rican flags. I yearned for most of my life (and I sometimes I hopelessly do) that Puerto Rico may join the Union someday.

Not now, not under these circumstances, especially with the economy being so bad in both places. This is incredibly hard to acknowledge because, 1-I know it may never happen, 2-Americans are becoming incredibly more racists than I want to see, 3-whatever contributions we have given to the US is not seen-not what happens at NASA, nor all the wars, nor those of us that believe in a good, fair and correct way to do this.

Puerto Ricans do not want to be seen as political pawns-for votes-especially with a matter as volatile, nuke-wise and explosive as their final destination. In fact, they’d be royally pi$sed. From what I perceive, Obama is “far away”-a distant President that has sent money to low income families; I don’t see them concerned with status issues because that merely falls in the hands of the Resident Commish (author of HR 2499), which is a modification of a prior bill by an Alaskan senator, Don Young. It’s always a stillbirth issue. Hundreds of thousands know that “Americans don’t want us/don’t care for us”.

I am writing about this this evening because I read about theories on Obama’s agenda (which are not that way off the bat) and I am still shaking my head over the lack of interest on behalf of the GOP on PR and other territories, and to be in some sort of denial and just take for granted that PR is basically a Democrat island. Well, how do you know that, and what have you done to connect with people?

I am not posting this question to be answered here, but it needs to be answered by the top leaders of the Republican Party. Blood may be a bodily fluid, without any standard, pedigree or ranking, but I digress spilling more of my fellow Puerto Ricans’ (American!) blood. This poseur for president does not deserve it, nor honors it, and doesn’t care for our troops.

As for illegal immigration, my standing is this: TAKE-A-TICKET AND STAND IN THE FRIGGIN’ LINE. Prove yourself that you are an honorable, responsible, hard working person that will come to this country to contribute, not to harm it, nor kill Americans. Take the oath. Learn English. Look out for fellow Americans (even if they don’t necessarily love you back).

ProudPalinFan on July 1, 2010 at 9:25 PM

I want everyone to have a shot at making a living. The problems start when my 5th amendment rights get trampled in the process. The fifth amendment right I am most concerned about is the guarantee of due process, the guarantee that the government will respect, honor, and protect all my legal rights coming to me under the law.

In clause 39 of the Magna Carta, John of England promised as follows: “No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land.”

People streaming into sanctuary cities and being given blanket amnesty and citizenship would be my equals but only through the unequal application of the law. Granting amnesty and conveying citizenship on a mass scale to people who broke the law to get here is most definitely unconstitutional.

pc on July 1, 2010 at 9:26 PM

If the people who arrive here from Mexico and Central America can get okayed for citizenship by stealing their way into the country, as a citizen I ought to be able to go to my ancestral homeland and offer citizenship to as many people as care to come over. It’s only fair.

pc on July 1, 2010 at 9:31 PM

How about a provisional citizenship. They can’t vote for say 10 years. They have no right to bring in family members for the same time frame. They do pay all taxes and are not eligible for Social Security until they have worked a full 30 years. Anything less is pro-rated at say 70. Any employer who hires them and does not provide healthcare goes to prison.

flyoverland on July 1, 2010 at 9:33 PM

Obama: American citizenship “not a matter of blood or birth”

I think Mikey Monsoor would disagree…

Seven Percent Solution on July 1, 2010 at 9:36 PM

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