McChrystal: “I’ve compromised the mission”; Update: McChrystal misses strategy session? Update: “We are so screwed”

posted at 9:30 am on June 23, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Will General Stanley McChrystal keep his job or won’t he?  And what will that say about the Obama administration either way?  We will have to wait until after a mid-morning tete-a-tete between the theater commander and his Commander-in-Chief this morning, but that won’t keep people from reading the tea leaves.  Jake Tapper reports on McChrystal’s efforts to show remorse in an attempt to keep his job:

During his round of phone calls to top officials of the Obama administration whom he and his team disparaged to a Rolling Stone reporter, Gen. Stanley McChrystal said, “I’ve compromised the mission,” a senior administration source tells ABC News.

Whether he did so irrevocably is at the top of the agenda in his Oval Office meeting with President Obama this morning. The president will press him as to what he was thinking and whether he still has the ability to serve as commander of 100,000 US troops in Afghanistan after making remarks about the president and his national security team that the general could use to justifiably fire any of his underlings if they were made about him.

Tapper also points out the Catch-22 of making a show of abject humility:

But if McChrystal by his own admission has compromised the mission, where does that leave him?

It’s a good question.  If McChrystal is perceived to have fouled up the mission, he will return in a weakened position, somewhat the same as McChrystal described Richard Holbrooke’s situation in that Rolling Stone interview.  Hamid Karzai yesterday issued a strong statement of support for McChrystal, calling him the best American commander in the last nine years in Afghanistan.  Will his NATO colleagues feel the same, especially the French, whose social and diplomatic efforts were derided by McChrystal’s team in the article as “f***ing gay”?  Or will he be seen as too tightly leashed to the White House now for any reliable independent judgment?

Barack Obama may have another problem on his hands — his own party.  According to Ben Smith at Politico on Twitter, Democrats are telling him sotto voce that keeping McChrystal in place would make Obama another Jimmy Carter.  And then there’s this from Dana Milbank at the Washington Post:

Only two words were missing from this disembowelment of the commander: You’re fired. Gibbs hinted that Obama would deliver that message to McChrystal in person on Wednesday. If he doesn’t, it’s hard to see how he can maintain his credibility as a leader.

Even before the quotes in the Rolling Stone article (the accuracy of which McChrystal hasn’t challenged), the commander in chief had surprised foes and worried friends by how far he allowed himself to be pushed. That accounts for an Washington Post-ABC News poll earlier this month finding that 57 percent of respondents viewed Obama as a strong leader and 43 percent did not; 14 months ago, it was 77 percent to 22 percent.

On the Hill, Democrats have ignored White House pleas for party unity, and intraparty disputes are preventing action on the budget, war spending, job creation, immigration reform and energy legislation. In the media, stalwart allies such as MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow panned Obama’s speech on the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. Obama’s own secretary of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton, told the world about his unannounced plan to file suit over Arizona’s new immigration law.

Republicans, in turn, have reached new levels of presidential disrespect. After Obama pushed BP to set aside money for those hurt by the oil spill, the opposition apologized — to BP. Jon Kyl (Ariz.), the No. 2 Republican in the Senate, took the extraordinary step of attacking Obama at a political rally over comments he says (and the White House denies) the president made in a private meeting.

OMG!!!  Republicans criticized the President!  It’s a “new level of presidential disrespect,” but only if you were in a coma from 2000-2009.  The meeting between Kyl and Obama may not have had the press in the room, but Kyl has no requirement to consider Obama’s statements on policy as off the record.  Note also that Milbank doesn’t mention the fact that John McCain — hardly a foe of comprehensive immigration reform — corroborated Kyl’s statement.  Milbank seems to be in the middle of a hysterical meltdown over the fact that people don’t much like Obama or the job he’s doing, and suddenly after eight years of people deriding George Bush as a chimp, another Hitler, an idiot, and a corruptocrat, Milbank is shocked, shocked to hear disagreement on policy and considers it the nadir of public discourse.

The President’s party will write him off as a leader if he doesn’t cashier McChrystal.  Will that make any difference in Obama’s decision-making process?  I’d say no, especially since these are mainly the same people who don’t want us to stay in Afghanistan anyway.  That doesn’t mean that Obama won’t fire McChrystal, either, but either way Obama will pay a political price.

The issue will probably come down to how true McChrystal’s admission is.  If he has really compromised the mission, then it’s time to go, and McChrystal should resign instead of forcing Obama to fire him.  If Obama thinks McChrystal’s doing a good job (which is hotly debated at the moment anyway) and feels he can continue to work with the commander even after the childish and reprehensible remarks McChrystal and his team felt comfortable making in public, then Obama will probably stick with him.  I predict that McChrystal returns to Afghanistan, if for no other reason than to avoid another confirmation hearing on his replacement and the questions that will arise from it.

Update: Jules Crittenden says this is Obama’s chance to finally become a war President rather than a wartime President.  Be sure to read it all.

Update II: Wire services now report that McChrystal left the White House at 10:30 ET, and apparently did not return for an 11:30 ET strategy session on the war.  That looks as though McChrystal got his walking papers.

Update III: That appears to be the analysis of McChrystal’s supporters at the Pentagon, according to McClatchy:

The mood among McChrystal’s supporters at the Pentagon as he walked out the White House was despondent, especially given the relatively short length of his meeting with the president. Some then began questioning whether the military can succeed in Afghanistan. Many here were convinced that McChrystal was irreplaceable and one of the best counterinsurgency experts the military has. “We are screwed,” said one military officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the highly sensitive nature of the developments, as he watched the images of McChrystal leaving the White House. “We are so screwed.”

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Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 10:35 AM

I don’t think he spoke with them since Paris until they brought him the article for approval. The content of the article itself is not all that bad. It’s just the publication of the article that has done damage.

Based on what has been written about his personality both by Byron York yesterday and in the article itself, he may not have thought through the consequences of publication. He also may have realized that it was not possible for him to stop them anyway.

But it is entirely possible that he’s so busy in the theatre that he made a mistake in letting them publish it.

I don’t discount your theory entirely but it seems less likely.

Anyway, if he resigns or Obama fires him, then we may find out more.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM

There are plenty who are a disgrace to the ideals the military claims to stand for.

DrMagnolias on June 23, 2010 at 10:36 AM

Who?

Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM

This is really a no-win for Obama.
If he keeps McChrystal, he looks like a wimp and enrages his base.
If he fires him, he has to go through another confirmation and transition phase. Another grueling debate and review process (and we know how great his handling of it was last time when it took him several months to make up his freakin’ mind).

And, in a month or two, when the Afghan campaign is still floundering, people will say: “Wait, he fired his top General for what? Making a few comments making fun of Biden and Holbrooke, etc.? Was it really worth it?”

JohnInCA on June 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM

The President is being handed a gift by Gen. McChrystal; all Pres. Obama has to do is pull the trigger and fire him. Pres. Obama gets to look like a strong decisive leader after 18 months of waffling.

That being said, the fact that it’s taken the President this long and this set of circumstances to even get him to mention the war in Afghanistan is damning enough. He made a speech 7 months ago, and ignored it ever since, until one of his commanders insults him. So he can look like a strong but thin-skinned leader, or a forgiving leader with no regard for the Code of Justice the military swears to live under. Once again, Pres. Obama finds himself in a no-win situation of his own making.

Sgt Steve on June 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM

mountainaires on June 23, 2010 at 10:00 AM

I do agree about the deployments. They are very, very hard on troops and their families.

DrMagnolias on June 23, 2010 at 10:43 AM

IMHO the General should walk in, Lay his resignation on the presidents desk, walk out, Grin at the reporters, Send a bottle of champagne to the Rolling Stone Magazine and begin writing his Memoirs entitled “The Audacity of Making a Community Organizer the Commander in Chief”.

Guest1.1 on June 23, 2010 at 10:01 AM

Hey! That all sounds pretty good, except the title of his memoirs should be something along the lines of “Why I Drank the Kool Aid”.

Gang-of-One on June 23, 2010 at 10:43 AM

gh on June 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM

I am just looking at the results after the fact, and high ranking officers are not novices when it comes to D.C. politics.

I think you are right if he resigns or is fired we will find out more.

Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 10:43 AM

gh on June 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM

Talk is, their PAO lost control of the Stones visit.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM

I’m not sure what you are looking for. Are you wanting me to name the names of these people on a blog? That would be inappropriate–for all my disgust with them, they are not public figures.

DrMagnolias on June 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM

And, in a month or two, when the Afghan campaign is still floundering, people will say: “Wait, he fired his top General for what? Making a few comments making fun of Biden and Holbrooke, etc.? Was it really worth it?”

JohnInCA on June 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM

That’s the size of itm that’s it in a nutshell.

McChrystal who is not unfamiliar with strategy probably understands this fully.

Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Sgt Steve on June 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Exactly right, IMO. But Obama doesn’t really want to fight and his base wants him to leave so firing McC is not a good option for him either. To quote his favorite minister, “the chickens have come home to roost”.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 10:46 AM

The one thing about firing McChrystal, is that it would then require Dear Liar to initiate a search for a new commander.
rbj on June 23, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Jon Kary reporting for doody Sir!

dhunter on June 23, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Good Lt on June 23, 2010 at 10:10 AM

So well put. You did Good Lt!

Gang-of-One on June 23, 2010 at 10:49 AM

Stupid, stupid, stupid…

This never should have happened. Keep effing reporters out of war zones and keep your mouth shut.

“Never write if you can speak; never speak if you can nod; never nod if you can wink.”

reaganaut on June 23, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Talk is, their PAO lost control of the Stones visit.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Who is “their PAO”? I presume you are saying that RS visited Afghanistan and had more access than to McC’s staff than they should have. I’m a bit fuzzy on exactly when they visited and when the Paris trip for McC was. Those details are unimportant but my mind works better when it can attach dates to events.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Lets put this in perspective,
Obama is declaring war on Arizona over a law he has not read,
Now he is sitting down with General McChrystal over an article he did read in….Rolling Stone Magazine. Whats wrong with this picture?

Guest1.1 on June 23, 2010 at 10:58 AM

Newsweak interview with the author. States part of the interview was conducted while “they were getting hammered” in Paris.

It’s an IO war with the Taliban and the press. You don’t put out propaganda, but you have to get your message in there and keep out crap that’s not part of your message.

His staff and PAO lost control of the Rolling Stones visit.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:01 AM

I hope Rolling Stone is happy with the mess they made. There really was no reason at all to print that article, unless they deliberately wanted to damage General McChrystal and hurt the war effort, or perhaps get revenge on McChystal for the last encounter he had with Obama which made Obama look bad. Anyways, it looks like Rolling Stone ended up putting Obama in a real bind and a no-win situation.
Good job Rolling Stone for reporting what most military people feel, as if it’s newsworthy, and for damaging America!

OxyCon on June 23, 2010 at 11:03 AM

His staff and PAO lost control of the Rolling Stones visit.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Seems more like he, his staff, and his PAO lost control of their mouths while a Rolling Stone Journo was in the same room, which is much worse. You’ve got a press-pass with an agenda in the room, and that’s when you get random cases of diarrhea at the mouth?

Sgt Steve on June 23, 2010 at 11:04 AM

gh on June 23, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Public Affairs Officer. (could even be an NCO, ours was) Especially for the high-profile and toxic media media sources, you have to anchor your PAO with the journalists during the visit. Even embeds get checked on by your PAO.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:04 AM

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Thanks … nice to know newsweak is good for something.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Sgt Steve on June 23, 2010 at 11:04 AM

And freaking drinking? When that part of the story starts circulation in theater…

Not good.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:06 AM

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:04 AM

Thanks again.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 11:06 AM

I hope Rolling Stone is happy with the mess they made …
OxyCon on June 23, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Just click on the link. They are heroes to the left. I haven’t even read any of the article yet.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 11:08 AM

. The idea that McChrystal “allowed” an article to be published is contrary to normal practices in “journalism.” The extent of his control is to allow them access in the first place; beyond that, he doesn’t have veto power over an article, and probably didn’t see it before anyone else. They can–and often do–lie, twist, and misconstrue with impunity (although I haven’t heard anyone say the piece was inaccurate).

–RS submitted the article for his approval before it was published. That’s standard practice. If he had said that he was misquoted, etc., they very likely would have changed the article.

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 11:08 AM

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 11:08 AM

That’s not exactly what was stated by the editor. He said General McChystal saw the material and was asked about the quotes. Can you link to where he saw the actual article? I personnally find it hard to believe he’d even be okay with the title. “Runaway General”?

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:11 AM

McChrystal: “I’ve compromised the mission”

Is anybody asking why?

Speakup on June 23, 2010 at 11:12 AM

The video at newsweak is quite incredible (and not in a good way). They are heaping abuse on McChrystal … they prefer Biden’s strategy apparently.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 11:12 AM

And, in a month or two, when the Afghan campaign is still floundering, people will say: “Wait, he fired his top General for what? Making a few comments making fun of Biden and Holbrooke, etc.? Was it really worth it?”

JohnInCA on June 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM

Yes, I happen to believe that McChrystal’s actions here were pretty reprehensible, but if Obama removes the General for it, when the history books are written & future citizens open their “Who lost Afghanistan?” section, this whole kerfuffle will look tremendously petty & Obama will look like the prickly thin-skinned narcissist everyone now knows he is who was willing to throw away any hope of military & geopolitical success in Afghanistan simply to assuage his wounded ego.

It already fits the generally accepted narrative & that perception will only solidify – that’s how “the bigger pictures” paint themselves.

leilani on June 23, 2010 at 11:14 AM

It’s just a tongue-bath for Obama … so much for the Hillary theory.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 11:14 AM

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:06 AM

The drinking doesn’t bother me. It wasn’t in theater, or so it sounds from the article; they were in France. Admittedly, the notion that Gen. McChrystal and his entire entourage all duck out at the same time is a little disconcerting.

Sgt Steve on June 23, 2010 at 11:16 AM

The Infiltrator in the Peoples House can be counted on to do that which damages America and her allies the most!

That said I hope the Good General lives up to his oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC!
At present the greatest threat to the CONSTITUTION is the enemy DOMESTIC.
Continue the fight good soldier, your country calls and your duty demands it!
Reposted from the strata-sphere.com

dhunter on June 23, 2010 at 11:16 AM

Just click on the link. They are heroes to the left. I haven’t even read any of the article yet.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 11:08 AM

Yep, and even in the Newsweak interview there are a couple thinly veiled comments that speak to the authors attitude. I post them here so you all need not soil your keyboards.

Can you explain how the article came about—what was the pitching and reporting process?
I was Baghdad correspondent for NEWSWEEK for two years, and I left the magazine after covering the elections. I wrote a piece for GQ before Obama took office that raised some serious questions about the direction we were taking in Afghanistan. So it was something I wanted to be writing about. I saw General McChrystal and his new strategy as a way to look at our Afghan policy to see if it’s working or if it’s a totally insane enterprise.

It was always clear that you were a reporter and you were, in essence, on the record? And more, the entire article was thoroughly fact-checked, yes?
Yes. It was crystal clear to me, and I was walking around with a tape recorder and a notepad in my hand three-quarters of the time. I didn’t have the Matt Drudge press hat on, but everything short of that it was pretty obvious I was a reporter writing a profile of the general for Rolling Stone. It was always very clear.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:17 AM

The video at newsweak is quite incredible (and not in a good way). They are heaping abuse on McChrystal … they prefer Biden’s strategy apparently.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 11:12 AM

Yep, Will Dana Rolling Stone Magazine Managing Editor, said as much this morning on Imus In The Morning.

I still think McChrystal wanted this to go “off” in the news cycle.

Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 11:20 AM

The drinking doesn’t bother me. It wasn’t in theater, or so it sounds from the article; they were in France. Admittedly, the notion that Gen. McChrystal and his entire entourage all duck out at the same time is a little disconcerting.

Sgt Steve on June 23, 2010 at 11:16 AM

Yeah, I almost commented to clarify. I don’t think anyone would have a problem with drinking in general, but “getting hammer” with a reporter and talking freely? If our command allowed an article to get out under similiar circumstances, some echelon above us would drop the “hammer” (pun intended)

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM

…on us.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 11:08 AM

Both my husband and I, at different points in our careers, have been interviewed extensively by the media. Neither of us has ever–not once–seen/heard the pieces before they were published, let alone given the opportunity to approve or change them. With whom is it standard practice?

DrMagnolias on June 23, 2010 at 11:26 AM

Chemman, as a veteran who has BEEN THERE DONE THAT with regard to Iraq and Afghanistan, you’re the one looking like the fool. We have spent nearly $1 Trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan, money we could have spent to develop new weapons systems. The F-22 is nothing but a boondoggle. Meanwhile, China and Russia aren’t wasting time developing their future weapons systems. G.W. Bush screwed the pooch, waging a wasteful war in Iraq, and from all recent news, planning to wage another one in Iran.

Hawkdriver: What a joke. I’m a veteran of 26 years, 10 of them flying caps over Iraq. I’m a conservative, but not the ideological rube you clearly show you are. “love” G.W. Bush? Only a complete moron would love a man who thinks the Constitution is “just a piece of paper,” and who trashed the Constitution every day he was in office, and bankrupted this country for his political agenda.

While you tools are busy defending the indefensible, others aren’t wasting time making sure you rue the day you ever bought the lies of Presidents from the right or the left.

Putin boasts new jet fighter better than U.S. plane
Thu, Jun 17 2010
MOSCOW (Reuters) – Prime Minister Vladimir Putin climbed into the cockpit of Russia’s newest fighter jet on Thursday and said it would trump a U.S.-built rival, the F-22 Raptor.
Putin watched a test flight of a “fifth-generation” stealth fighter, dubbed the T-50 and billed as Russia’s first all-new warplane since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.
“This machine will be superior to our main competitor, the F-22, in terms of maneuverability, weaponry and range,” Putin told the pilot after the flight, according to an account on the government website.
Putin said the plane would cost up to three times less than similar aircraft in the West and could remain in service for 30 to 35 years with upgrades, according to the report.
Successful development of the fighter, built by Sukhoi, is crucial to showing Russia can challenge U.S. technology and modernize its military after a period of post-Soviet decay.
Russia also plans to manufacture T-50s jointly with India.
The F-22 raptor stealth fighter first flew in 1997 and is the only fifth-generation fighter in service. Fifth-generation aircraft have advanced flight and weapons control systems and can cruise at supersonic speeds.
According to the government website, the test pilot told Putin the controls of the T-50 allowed the pilot to operate most of the plane’s systems without taking his hands off the joystick, which he said would be very useful under high forces of gravity.
“I know, I’ve flown,” Putin replied. Sukhoi has said the plane should be ready for use in 2015.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65G64820100617

‘The truth about American politics is this: disguised by the theatrics of squabbling Democrats and Republicans, Washington governs according to limits prescribed by a fixed and narrow consensus. The two main parties collaborate in preserving that consensus. Doing so requires declaring out-of-bounds anything even remotely resembling a fundamental critique of how power gets exercised or wealth distributed. -Andrew Bacevich”

mountainaires on June 23, 2010 at 11:26 AM

Cut-and-paste from NRO/Corner is easier than linking:

McChrystal Watch [Daniel Foster]

After meeting with the president in the Oval Office for about a half hour, Gen. Stanley McChrystal left the White House at about 10:26 A.M. EST. He was supposed to attend the monthly strategy session in the Situation Room at 11:35 A.M. EST, so the fact that he left the before that meeting could mean something. Or it could mean nothing.

06/23 11:16 AM Share

Foster is too cautious. I’d say that McC has quit. Obama will brief the retards before making the announcement. Looks like a win for the pro-McC crowd here.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 11:26 AM

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM

I think that’s ultimately what bothers me most. There’s a pretty distinct lack of discipline being shown by Gen. McChrystal’s staff. It seems like these guys are almost bad stereotypes of Special Ops guys. And that’s fine, as far as I’m concerned, but I’ve put on enough dog & pony shows to know when to keep my mouth shut, say “hooah,” and move out. But these guys don’t know when to do that? They think they’re above what some butter-bar fresh from OBC knows, and that’s to keep your mouth shut when it comes to politics.

Sgt Steve on June 23, 2010 at 11:27 AM

Hawkdriver: What a joke. I’m a veteran of 26 years, 10 of them flying caps over Iraq. I’m a conservative, but not the ideological rube you clearly show you are. “love” G.W. Bush? Only a complete moron would love a man who thinks the Constitution is “just a piece of paper,” and who trashed the Constitution every day he was in office, and bankrupted this country for his political agenda.

While you tools are busy defending the indefensible, others aren’t wasting time making sure you rue the day you ever bought the lies of Presidents from the right or the left.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:32 AM

Hawkdriver: What a joke. I’m a veteran of 26 years, 10 of them flying caps over Iraq. I’m a conservative, but not the ideological rube you clearly show you are. “love” G.W. Bush? Only a complete moron would love a man who thinks the Constitution is “just a piece of paper,” and who trashed the Constitution every day he was in office, and bankrupted this country for his political agenda.

While you tools are busy defending the indefensible, others aren’t wasting time making sure you rue the day you ever bought the lies of Presidents from the right or the left.

Oops, sorry. Hit send too soon. Hey, do me a favor, when you post, try not to do it in such a manner that it looks like what you’re saying is a quote of mine.

I’m a Conservative too. 34 years of service. Flown over almost every modern theater to include OIF and OEF in UH1s/UH60s (not fully understanding what 10 years in caps over Iraq means) but I just think your indictments of the Bush Administration is a bit much. I think your name calling in responce to my pretty tame comment is too.

Take a breath.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:37 AM

One thing I’ve noticed is that this has brought out a lot of those on the left’s true feelings about the military. If you can stomach it, Maureen Dowd’s column today was just dripping with contempt for the military. One of her quotes was “Military guys are rarely as smart as they think they are”.

Aside from the specifics of this incident, it seems that some on the left are using it to trash the military in general. I guess they can’t believe that anyone in the military is as smart as their heroes who all went to Harvard and Princeton.

JohnInCA on June 23, 2010 at 11:37 AM

The President is being handed a gift by Gen. McChrystal; all Pres. Obama has to do is pull the trigger and fire him. Pres. Obama gets to look like a strong decisive leader after 18 months of waffling.

Additionally, he can now throw in the towel on Afghanistan and blame it on McCrystal. Replacing McC will throw off all the time lines and a new CO will want his own strategy and ops plans. The Kandahar operation will have to be postponed yet again. Mr. Obama wants to cut and run and the State-run Media will give him all the cover he needs.

lonesomecharlie on June 23, 2010 at 11:38 AM

At this point, it seems that US foreign policy is being determined or at least manipulated by the Rolling Stone.

Moreover, Obama seems to have declared all-out war on the states (re the gulf spill).

I hope everyone here is doing everything they can to purge the house and senate in the fall … in Toronto, I have a daughter who is spending much of her time working for conservative causes, including the mayor’s race where we now have a fantastic candidate (Rob Ford) leading the polls (he was in 4th place a few weeks ago). It’s no accident. He’s been waging a comprehensive all-out campaign to win. But not in the press … his campaign called our house and invited us to participate in a conference call on policy.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 11:40 AM

response..

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Aside from the specifics of this incident, it seems that some on the left are using it to trash the military in general. I guess they can’t believe that anyone in the military is as smart as their heroes who all went to Harvard and Princeton.

JohnInCA on June 23, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Except many of those same Military Officers go to the JFK school of government at HARVARD, and graduate from said school.

So the Left really is clueless.

Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Additionally, he can now throw in the towel on Afghanistan and blame it on McCrystal.

lonesomecharlie on June 23, 2010 at 11:38 AM

Yep. McChrystal should get used to two words: scape and goat. He’s about to be shredded, not just for this incident but for Obama’s failed strategy and coordination of the Afghanistan campaign.

JohnInCA on June 23, 2010 at 11:43 AM

gh on June 23, 2010 at 11:40 AM

So you’re Canadian, or your kid is just up there? Loved working with the Canadians in RC South. Very professional! I’ve mentioned that to another commenter here, canopfer, many times.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:45 AM

All right. Above all this noise about the RS article, a couple of things stand out. One, the good general’s severe criticism of civilian leadership, very publicly, very openly. There is much to criticize I am sure, obama is a pantywaist if there ever was one, but the structure of our Union is such that it is the civilian leadership that makes the ultimate decisions. If McChrystal had serious problems with the strategy, performance of his colleagues, latitude on the field and whatever else, he should have taken it to Gates, IMO. Two, and this is just personal, he voted for obama, he cannot be that good.

runner on June 23, 2010 at 11:46 AM

John F Kennedy School Of Government HARVARD.

But really we can’t expect people like Maureen Dowd to pay attention to little details like, what ivy league institutions are educating our military :)

Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Hawkdriver, apparently the Politico piece was wrong:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/rolling-stone-editor-explains-fact-checking.php

Rolling Stone Managing Editor Will Dana told TPM in an interview this morning that the fact-checking process for the magazine’s profile of Gen. Stanley McChrystal went extremely smoothly and the magazine has “utter confidence and faith in the reporting.”

Dana said that, contra a report in Politico, neither McChrystal nor anyone else was shown the article before it ran.

“We don’t read the quotes back directly. If there’s any assertion made that’s factual in a quote, we check that independently, and we talk whenever possible with the person who said the quote to make sure they said that. We don’t let them retract the quotes,” Dana explains.

He said a Rolling Stone staffer did the fact-checking on the piece and the process was “very smooth.” Writer Michael Hastings “is a pro,” Dana says. “Everything was backed up. He had all his research, all his notes.”

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 11:08 AM
Both my husband and I, at different points in our careers, have been interviewed extensively by the media. Neither of us has ever–not once–seen/heard the pieces before they were published, let alone given the opportunity to approve or change them. With whom is it standard practice?

DrMagnolias on June 23, 2010 at 11:26 AM

–When newspapers or magazines are interviewing executives at companies. In my experience, companies demand that they be given a chance to review and comment on articles (and quotes) before they are published. And they’re given that by the periodicals.

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 11:48 AM

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:45 AM

Sorry to be unclear. I live in Toronto with my family.

I lived in New Jersey from 1981-88 … grad school.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 11:48 AM

Only a complete moron would love a man who thinks the Constitution is “just a piece of paper,” and who trashed the Constitution every day he was in office, and bankrupted this country for his political agenda.

who are you talking about ? Bush or obama ?

runner on June 23, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 11:47 AM

That’s what I thought and different than, “Having the article submitted to you”. I’ve never seen the finished product of an article I’ve been interviewed for before it was published.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Sorry, didn’t see that comment before my last. Well then, more like what I thought then. Like Doc Magnolia said, we don’t normally see any finished product. You trust these people and it’s a toss of the dice sometimes. You have to have a great PAO these days. Sad but true unless you want your unit to be painted in the worst possible light.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:55 AM

The RS reporter was the one who compromised the mission. The mission was going as good as it could given the variables. What he did was publish a bunch of comments from one drunken conversation in Paris made by the general’s aides when they were relaxing at a bar, and now MCCHRYSTAL has compromised the mission?

He’s just a big enough man to say something like that, but I think no doubt he had done nothing unusual. I’ll bet you $10 that Eik and all those other azz-clowns from the civilian side of the mission have disparaged him in their circles a million times. In fact the soldiers under McChrystal’s command criticize him for his strategies too. But the RS reporter doesn’t stick a mic in their faces when they’re drunk.

McChrystal did the reporter a favour, and this clown has decided to publish these comments. It’s HIS (reporter’s) fault and HIS actions that has compromised the mission, the coalition, the president and his team, and has put at risk the job of the best man to execute it (if someone else was better they’d be commanding it from the start).

No one is irreplaceable, but you don’t replace someone and his entire staff in such a crucial moment, with such a stiff timetable.

And you know what, if he fires McChrystal, Obama will look terrible for it. He already looks weak and indecisive (surprise surprise) on Afghanistan, and now when a genius general’s comments happen to exacerbate that perception, Obama goes and fires him? Looks petty in my opinion.

Do NOT fire him.

AlexB on June 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM

Has he shown up yet for the strategy meeting?

kingsjester on June 23, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Major Garrett just said that they have not seen him.

kingsjester on June 23, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Using the term “Bite Me” in referring to Biden’s name is making fun of the VP? Hell, EVERYONE makes fun of Biden. No news here.

volsense on June 23, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 11:47 AM
That’s what I thought and different than, “Having the article submitted to you”. I’ve never seen the finished product of an article I’ve been interviewed for before it was published.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM

–You can demand it up front as a condition to your participation.

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Has he shown up yet for the strategy meeting?

kingsjester on June 23, 2010 at 11:59 AM

No. The post at NRO was updated to confirm that (I should have linked ;-)

gh on June 23, 2010 at 12:04 PM

Do NOT fire him.

AlexB on June 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM

I think he’s resigned already … Obama is on record saying that he needs to stay course. The press conference after the securty meeting will be interesting … I wonder how he’s going to spin it.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 11:48 AM

I would expect Rolling Stone to say nothing other than they have great faith in their story. CBS had great faith in its story about Westmoreland, too, and NYT had great faith in its story about Steven Hatfill, even though they deliberately omitted details to make him look bad.

If you have had the ability to review and comment on articles in advance, your experience with the media has been greatly different from mine, my husband’s, or anyone’s I know. Perhaps it was the nature or purpose of the articles.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 11:55 AM

The operative word would be “great” PAO. My husband’s PAO seemed so intimidated by his rank that she basically rubber stamped everything. He was badly abused in a hit piece by one reporter, and has refused all interview requests since that time. So, I can sympathize with McChrystal and what he–and his wife–are experiencing right now.

DrMagnolias on June 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM

Access to McChrystal would have to have gone through the Pentagon. I suspect they have their own protocol – stipulations for publications.

Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM

Hawkdriver, FYI:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3677/is_200610/ai_n21032450/

Of the top 50 U.S. newspapers, the majority uses an informal, non-written policy on sources reviewing articles before publication. More common is a form a partial review, such as orally checking quotes.

As editor of The Stockton Record, Will Corbin created a stir in the newsroom in the summer of 2004 when he allowed the director of the Port of Stockton to read an article before it was published. The story in question was a follow-up to an investigative article by Audrey Cooper, published a week earlier. The newsroom reaction, he said, appeared based on the notion that “no self-respecting journalist would ever do such a thing.”1 Aware of the heated discussion, “if not abject panic,” surrounding the pre-publication review, Corbin said, he sought to explain his rationale in Newsroom News, an in-house publication. First, he said, the paper had extended the offer, and not because of any demands from the port. second, the port was an aggrieved party because of erroneous assumptions that were in the original investigative piece. He wrote:

……..
In the same issue of the Newsroom News, Corbin laid out the new policy, including these elements:

* Pre-publication review of stories or parts of stories should be considered a helpful and useful part of the newsgathering process.

* There is no obligation on the part of the reporter or the newspaper at any time to allow a pre-publication review. At the same time, the idea should not be rejected out of hand.

* If a source or subject asks to see a story before publication, the reporter or her editor may consider allowing such a preview if they consider it useful to the pursuit of truth.

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM

I wonder how he’s going to spin it.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM

Øbama will use the firing as proof that he is a strong, decisive leader.

petefrt on June 23, 2010 at 12:10 PM

If you have had the ability to review and comment on articles in advance, your experience with the media has been greatly different from mine, my husband’s, or anyone’s I know. Perhaps it was the nature or purpose of the articles.

…..
DrMagnolias on June 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM

–These were executives at publicly-held companies, so we had to demand that because of potential securities law problems if the articles/quotes weren’t complete and accurate.

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 12:11 PM

petefrt on June 23, 2010 at 12:10 PM

It’s a resignation (imo). So you are saying he’s going to lie. That would be boring but par for the course.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 12:13 PM

Morrisey, I’ve read the article from that Rolling Stone rag, Mark Levin read it, and we both disagree with you.

If Obama thinks McChrystal’s doing a good job (which is hotly debated at the moment anyway) and feels he can continue to work with the commander even after the childish and reprehensible remarks McChrystal and his team felt comfortable making in public, then Obama will probably stick with him.

And what “childish and reprehensible remarks” were those? You’re getting more-and-more like a Daily Kos blogger with each passing article, because I didn’t see any quotes from McChrystal. Where did you see them? Defaming McChrystal by making false allegations of “childish and reprehensible remarks” is childish and reprehensible, in and of itself, given the lack of any from the General, not to mention defamatory. Did he disparage Obama? Where? Looking at this with some rationality, as a guy that served in the law enforcement community when I was in the Army, I don’t see any insubordination. I don’t see McChrystal as a duty derelict malingerer, either, no longer able to do his job. What I do hear is people calling and coming out of the woodwork that were/are from the SOF community, staunchly defending General Stan McChrystal; that‘s what I hear. The rest of Team America? Letting off steam, and unless you’ve lived in dangerous environments, negative comments about their professionalism and discipline just come off as stupid and petty. Biden and the US ambassador aren’t in their chain of command, just as future president George HW Bush wasn’t in mine, when Ronald Reagan was my CINC during the Cold War. Try some decaf, read the article, and stop with the knee-jerk “GUILTY!GUILTY!GUILTY!” crap. It’s unhelpful. Negative comparisons between General McChrystal and Generals MacArthur and Patton are just more asinine crap, because McChrystal did nothing rising to the levels of insubordination and pointlessly challenging their CINC, like they did.

The Rolling Stone piece was nothing more than an effort to undermine. To undermine McChrystal (which seems to be working just fine with you, Morrisey), and with the stupid public that actually believes that rag to have a single objective journalist associated with it. The language was unprofessional and clearly spoke of attempts at bomb-throwing and trouble-making, and the writer clearly had an axe to grind, both against American forces and the War on Terror. Helen Keller could see that. The most ‘incendiary’, ‘inflammatory’ comments were examined, and they were nothing. On top of that, they didn’t even come from General McChrystal. This “CRUCIFY HIM! CRUCIFY HIM!” crap from you and others has got to stop. If you want me to be mad at McChrystal, you’re out of luck, because I’m too distracted being mad at a half-assed, anti-Semite, wannabe dictator that’s trying to destroy my nation’s economy, throw in with our nation’s enemies and nullify the Constitution. If anybody needs to be tendering his damned resignation, today, it’s Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

Virus-X on June 23, 2010 at 12:14 PM

even after the childish and reprehensible remarks McChrystal and his team felt comfortable making in public

Most of the critical comments came from McChrystal’s staff, whether he was in the room or not. How much of the flack was spoken under an “off the record” agreement broken by the Rolling Stone?

PRIVATE political comments become public once publicized and published. Yet the magazine has yet to be printed. This tap dance has too many choreographers, all of whom have personal agendas. The only party whose agenda aligns with McChrystal’s report which Obama supposedly endorsed is McChrystal. Who would be foolish enough to stipulate that the Rolling Stone article is going to be critical of Obama’s malleable Afghan War “policies”, as if that publisher cares about Afghan soldiers.

Obama’s PUBLIC OUTRAGE over private criticisms made public is no surprise, since Obama already told everyone that he “doesn’t appreciate” hearing criticism, and since Obama lacks the class to refrain from publicizing what OUGHT to first be confidential conversations between himself and McChrystal.

maverick muse on June 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM

The Afghan War is a pimple ready to pop on Obama’s hind side, and Obama’s been handicapping McChrystal from the onset while laying all responsibility on his General.

maverick muse on June 23, 2010 at 12:20 PM

The Rolling Stone article says he voted for Obama, so why should we care what happens to him? He thought McCain wasn’t good enough even though he has 10000000 times the experience that Obama does.

Speedwagon82 on June 23, 2010 at 12:20 PM

–You can demand it up front as a condition to your participation.

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Well, our PAO might, but as a technical source for some aspect of a news story about my unit or our equipment, I really can’t demand anything.

The Washington Post did an article on the high number of personnel that were stop-lossed in my unit for our last deployment. I was the highest ranking person that was stop-lossed so I guess they thought that was interesting for the story. I was interviewed for about two hours in our DFAC (with our PAO sitting with us through the entire interview) and the tener of her questions really just ended up trying to push the point that we were now better prepared for our upcoming year under Obama and she additionally tried to get me to assert that the war was forgotten under Bush. It was my assertion that the war was not forgotten at all, but that the focus of the war like any war changes back and forth from one theater to the other based on the enemy. I stated frankly, whether one might agree or not, that those outside forces that influenced Iraq where now trying to influence Afgahnistan and with the increase in the use of IEDs that that was more of what was causing it to heat up as opposed to inattention from The Bush Administration. Anyway, I had another one hour telephonic followup where she tried to get me to say the same things. I simply stated that my understanding was that the point of the interview was my stop-loss. I had maybe two lines in about 9 paragraphs that covered almost nothing of the three hours of interview.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 12:20 PM

If anybody needs to be tendering his damned resignation, today, it’s Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

Virus-X on June 23, 2010 at 12:14 PM

Bingo!

maverick muse on June 23, 2010 at 12:21 PM

maverick muse on June 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM

The Article from RollingStone – Runaway General is posted online HERE.

Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 12:21 PM

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Free press and the death of journalism.

maverick muse on June 23, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Dr. Evil, thanks. Before I link to read through it, how often or how many of their articles do they post online prior to print? Why go to the expense of the paper product print job after releasing articles online?

maverick muse on June 23, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Virus-X on June 23, 2010 at 12:14 PM

On a side note, Cindy Munford is a great AMerican and a great patriot. I think you jumped the gun a little on her comments yesterday, with all due respect.

Just to let you know, she is a constant defended of we in the military on these boards. And on a personal note, she organized the biggest care package program for my little detachment this last year that I’ve ever seen.

To see her dismissed as someone who could even insult the military off-handedly, I think is just a shame.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 12:26 PM

defender…

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 12:27 PM

maverick muse on June 23, 2010 at 12:24 PM

I think this might be a precedent for Rolling Stone? I am sure this is going to gin up their readership/subscription base. I don’t think, they would be described as a must read go to source. Although I think the managing editor Will Dana would like to position them as such.

Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 12:28 PM

maverick muse on June 23, 2010 at 12:24 PM

The article is worth reading. It’s clearly a hatchet job but there are about 3 pages of bio on McChrystal which ring true. He’s an interesting guy.

Checkout the newsweak link above. The author of the article pretty much confirms that McChrystal was not consulted. There is a 7 minute video, which is mostly left-wing congratulatory noise on forcing Obama out of Afghanistan (read between the lines).

gh on June 23, 2010 at 12:29 PM

All right. Above all this noise about the RS article, a couple of things stand out. One, the good general’s severe criticism of civilian leadership, very publicly, very openly. There is much to criticize I am sure, obama is a pantywaist if there ever was one, but the structure of our Union is such that it is the civilian leadership that makes the ultimate decisions. If McChrystal had serious problems with the strategy, performance of his colleagues, latitude on the field and whatever else, he should have taken it to Gates, IMO. Two, and this is just personal, he voted for obama, he cannot be that good.

runner on June 23, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Really? Where’s that? I want you to show me a direct quote from that rag-piece that was a quote from McChrystal where he was engaging in “…severe criticism of civilian leadership, very publicly, very openly.” I don’t see a single quote from General McChrystal. Did you actually see this, or are you just saying that, with that not being true?

the structure of our Union is such that it is the civilian leadership that makes the ultimate decisions.

Oh, really? And show me the quote where General McChrystal, former commander of JSOC disputed that? Show me where General McChrystal disputed the Constitutional position of the civilian leadership, however incompetent and corrupt, to make the decisions that the military has to follow. I certainly didn’t see any such quote.

Go to Gates? Please. Gates is a sycophantic idiot that rubber stamps everything the Dalai Obama says. And, don’t forget Gates’ looong and possibly careless history of firing admirals and generals, left-and-right (at least one of those firings I seriously disagreed with). This is your boss that you know won’t get anything done, and that will make meeting with very counterproductive (maybe even resulting in getting you fired).

As for being an O-Bot, that I’m not happy with, either, and I just can’t be a big McChrystal booster, in spite of his apparently expert handling of JSOC, being a United States Army Ranger that altered the way Rangers train for the better, and being US Army Special Forces. True, he’s probably suffering buyer’s remorse, but that doesn’t excuse buying what everybody knew was a big piece of crap.

Virus-X on June 23, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Anyways, it looks like Rolling Stone ended up putting Obama in a real bind and a no-win situation.
Good job Rolling Stone for reporting what most military people feel, as if it’s newsworthy, and for damaging America!

OxyCon on June 23, 2010 at 11:03 AM

If this is the case, the New York Times should be hiring the RS writer and day now.

Rovin on June 23, 2010 at 12:32 PM

I predict that McChrystal returns to Afghanistan, if for no other reason than to avoid another confirmation hearing on his replacement and the questions that will arise from it.

Not a bad guess. I can barely imagine the loons tirades questions the loons may direct to a successor.

Having read the entire Rolling Stone piece, about the worst charge the General faces is fostering an environment that welcomed criticism of the Administration and its policies. All of the damaging quotes were attributed to aides. But most were uttered in the General’s presence, and no rebuke issued. That may be what ultimately gives him a final pass and a ticket back to wait for the green light.

EconomicNeocon on June 23, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM

Yep, I see what you’re posting. You have to understand there are without a doubt elements in the media whose sole purpose it is to paint us in the worst possible light. As in this case, we seemed to have facilitated a lot of it, but Rolling Stones certainly offered no deference to us or retraint they might offer some liberal entity.

That’s why we have PAOs.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Speedwagon82 on June 23, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Why care about General McChrystal?

Because he is a real warrior defending our Constitution to the best of his ability.

Michael Savage discussed McChrystal’s background last night. He’s West Point, son of a general and 4th US generation military man, prior to this appointment was chief of black operations and frequently participated unannounced in the night time operations with his forces, is a true spartan dedicated to service, and is a straight arrow.

I was angry reading the initial report linked @ Drudge that he voted for Obama. Whether he did or not, though, that claim certainly grabs everyone’s attention and promotes sales. And if he did, he had his reasons. If he didn’t, he had his reasons, including a reason to say he “voted for Obama” –perhaps in a poll to reference Obama’s negative status –perhaps in order to try to improve military morale or support for the CinC over in Afghanistan where everyone except Karzai is suffering.

maverick muse on June 23, 2010 at 12:34 PM

OT fox is reporting that 2x personnel have been killed in oil cleanup effort.

ouch.

ted c on June 23, 2010 at 12:34 PM

Kinda makes one wonder how many interviews rolling stone will get with the military top brass in the future.

dragondrop on June 23, 2010 at 12:36 PM

so mcchrystal missed the strategy session…. How is that any different than the previous 6 mos? probably not much.

ted c on June 23, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM
Yep, I see what you’re posting. You have to understand there are without a doubt elements in the media whose sole purpose it is to paint us in the worst possible light. As in this case, we seemed to have facilitated a lot of it, but Rolling Stones certainly offered no deference to us or retraint they might offer some liberal entity.

That’s why we have PAOs.

hawkdriver on June 23, 2010 at 12:32 PM

–And that’s why your PAOs should generally demand to see articles. Companies have the same concern you (collectively) do–reporters trying to paint the companies in a bad light. And that’s why they demand this.

Jimbo3 on June 23, 2010 at 12:36 PM

I’m not questioning her patriotism. What bothered me was her careless, inarticulate statement, which was a highly unflattering comment against my family that’s still in uniform, hence, though I may’ve gone back into military mode and been excessively harsh, it was all to illustrate the fact that insulting the military as a whole, based on fictional, spurious statements was very unintelligent. I say “fictional, spurious”, because if you read the article, there was not one quote attributed to General McChrystal. NEVER ONCE was he quoted as disparaging the Dalai Obama, his CINC. There was not a single quote from the General attacking Obama, and yet everywhere I look, including here, there are people saying he did question Obama’s authority, and/or insult him. I didn’t see it, Mark Levin, and attorney, didn’t see it. So making negative comments about Soldiers and Marines by questioning their discipline and maturity were very off-color, to me. However, in light of your comment and you being a military man, I’ll calm down on my critique of her. My apologies, Hawkdriver.

Virus-X on June 23, 2010 at 12:37 PM

If McChrystal had serious problems with the strategy, performance of his colleagues, latitude on the field and whatever else, he should have taken it to Gates, IMO.

runner on June 23, 2010 at 11:46 AM

No one is proving that McChrystal did not first approach both Obama and Gates as well as the Joint Chiefs on multiple occasions, only to be put off every time.

That is the most likely scenario.

maverick muse on June 23, 2010 at 12:37 PM

I would like to see Holbrooke and Eikenberry resign. I bet there are folks in the State Department that want them replaced too….if they rotate out in the near future McChrystal taking a tongue lashing in the press would be worth it. If McChrystal is fired, it’s just more wood being thrown on the bonfire.

Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Update II

We are double clusterf%cked.

maverick muse on June 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM

Ed just added a link to an excellent piece by Jules Crittenden and he’s confirmed the NRO post with a link to a wire story.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 12:39 PM

There was not a single quote from the General attacking Obama, and yet everywhere I look, including here, there are people saying he did question Obama’s authority, and/or insult him.–VirusX

It’s called Whole Cloth, and Obama holds the monopoly on it.

maverick muse on June 23, 2010 at 12:40 PM

It’s a resignation (imo). So you are saying he’s going to lie. That would be boring but par for the course.

gh on June 23, 2010 at 12:13 PM

Well, probably not lie outright, as it would be so demonstrably false to say he ‘fired’ him. But Øbama will lead us to believe that he extracted the resignation and extracting/accepting it proves what a decisive leader he is.

I expect Øbama will also use the change of command to accelerate his disengagement from Afghanistan. It’s too much of a distraction from his domestic agenda.

petefrt on June 23, 2010 at 12:41 PM

The Idealogs winning the Day, but not the War.

Dr Evil on June 23, 2010 at 12:42 PM

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