Gibbs on McChrystal: All options are on the table; Update: McChrystal offers resignation? Update: Or did he merely offer to resign?

posted at 4:56 pm on June 22, 2010 by Allahpundit

Politico takes this as the strongest sign yet, among many signs being sent today, that big Mac is headed for the exit. It’s a nasty dilemma for Obama, but the calculus is straightforward: Which will cost him more, looking weak by retaining McChrystal after his staff’s shots at Biden, Eikenberry, etc., or shuffling the command in Afghanistan at a delicate moment? Via Danger Room, the case for giving him a second chance — sort of:

Not only is McChrystal the “only one with any sort of relationship with [Afghan president Hamid] Karzai,” says this civilian advisor to the McChrystal-led International Security Assistance Force. Eikenberry “has no plan, didn’t get COIN [counterinsurgency] when he was the commander and still doesn’t.” Plus, the advisor adds: “The Embassy hates Eik. That’s not necessarily an indictment (I’m no fan of the Embassy). But it contributes to the dysfunction and it means that half the Embassy is focused on keeping Eik in line.”

But even this McChrystal backer admits that the backbiting and the sh*t-talking between the general’s camp and Eikenberry’s is hurting the war effort.

“There are very few things we control in Afghanistan. In every review of COIN best practices, ‘unity of effort’ tops the list. Every. Single, Review. And we’re totally f***ing it up; f***ing up the one thing that should be in our control,” the advisor says. “We can’t control Karzai, or the ANP [Afghan National Police], or the Pakistani tribes, but we should be able to get our sh*t in one sock and we’re not.”

Indeed, Karzai issued a statement of support for McChrystal this morning. Case closed, then — he’s staying on, right? Not so fast. Also via Danger Room, has big Mac become more of a liability than an asset?

If President Obama fires McChrystal, there’s a very real possibility of months of chaos as the commands switch over—just as there was last year, when McKiernan was axed. Worse still, it’s unclear that McChrystal’s original strategy can be pulled off without his staff there to push it down the chain of command. There’s also another possibility, namely that Team Obama could use this as an opportunity for reversing many of McChrystal’s astoundingly bad decisions (like going into Kandahar in the first place), focusing resources instead on winnable battlegrounds like Kunduz and Herat and Khost.

Reportedly names of replacements are already being kicked around the Pentagon, with Gen. Mattis and possibly Petraeus himself targeted as successors. For my money, the worst detail in the “Rolling Stone” piece was an aide claiming McChrystal told people that Obama appeared “intimidated” by military brass during an early meeting after his inauguration. However true that may be, it’s the last thing a commander should want troops in the field believing about a C-in-C who’s sending them into combat, especially given the preexisting stereotype of Democrats being “wimpy” on war. It’s poisonous to morale, and would be unimaginable coming from someone like Petraeus. But then, as one of Byron York’s sources tells him, McChrystal’s tactless disdain for his civilian superiors is apparently well known. Provided that replacing him wouldn’t instantly wreck the whole mission — which isn’t exactly rolling along anyway — I’d fire him.

Just as I’m writing this, I’m seeing reports that Joe Klein told Rick Sanchez on CNN that McChrystal’s submitted his resignation. But Marc Ambinder, who’s tapped into the White House like few other bloggers are, is hearing that the war cabinet is urging Obama to keep him on. Maybe Dan Foster is right: By having McChrystal submit his resignation but refusing to accept it, Obama gets to save face while also retaining him in the field. Stay tuned; supposedly The One’s going to speak sometime soon.

Update: Via the Right Scoop, here’s the CNN report on Joe Klein’s scoop about McChrystal’s resignation. No independent confirmation yet, although it’s possible that Klein’s source is McChrystal himself. He’s a big fan of Mac, despite the fact that he argued today at Time’s website that McChrystal should go.

Update: Time is now walking back Klein’s scoop a bit, claiming that McChrystal didn’t actually tender his resignation but offered to do so. Over to you, Barry.

Update: The plot thickens: Toby Harnden of the Telegraph says a source tells him that McChrystal has indeed tendered his resignation and that the White House is “actively discussing a replacement” in case Obama accepts it.


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Corrected linkie: Swat that fly.

petefrt on June 22, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Corrected linkie: Swat that fly.

petefrt on June 22, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Even the flies are beginning to smell the corpse

TheBigOldDog on June 22, 2010 at 5:57 PM

I thought the fly was that ugly mole growing hair!

clnurnberg on June 22, 2010 at 5:58 PM

These guys can’t even handle a resignation properly.

joejm65 on June 22, 2010 at 5:58 PM

McKiernan was loved by those who served under him. He was fired and replaced by McChrystal, who was loved by those who served over him. I know it happens in lots of large organizations, but when it happens to the military, it get troops killed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/16/AR2009081602304.html?sid=ST2009081700748

In his first two months on the job, McChrystal has moved with alacrity to shift the focus of U.S. and NATO troops from chasing the Taliban to protecting cities and towns, reasoning that expanding areas of population security would have greater impact on the insurgency than a series of raids. But there is also a recognition in McChrystal’s headquarters that McKiernan had made valuable contributions: The troops he asked for are now central to counterinsurgency operations in southern Afghanistan. McKiernan also set in motion changes in training Afghan security forces that McChrystal plans to continue.

Soon after arriving in Kabul, McChrystal issued a “tactical directive” to all forces under his command: The use of airstrikes on housing compounds, which have caused hundreds of civilian casualties since 2001 and stoked deep anger among Afghans, would be restricted to the most clear and critical cases.

McChrystal said bombs could be dropped only when solid intelligence showed that high-level militants were present or U.S. forces were in imminent danger. He made it clear he would rather allow a few rank-and-file Taliban fighters to get away than to flatten a house whose occupants might include women and children.

funky chicken on June 22, 2010 at 5:59 PM

TheBigOldDog on June 22, 2010 at 5:57 PM

Wonder what that fly is thinking.

petefrt on June 22, 2010 at 5:59 PM

“There are very few things we control in Afghanistan. In every review of COIN best practices, ‘unity of effort’ tops the list. Every. Single, Review. And we’re totally f***ing it up; f***ing up the one thing that should be in our control,” the advisor says. “We can’t control Karzai, or the ANP [Afghan National Police], or the Pakistani tribes, but we should be able to get our sh*t in one sock and we’re not.”

Obama is not the Commander of anything other than what golf course he will choose. The man needs to step down, step aside, step away… just effing go away, Obama. Even Biden could do a better job than you, ya putz.

/I have family fighting in Afghanistan, his Humvee was hit by an IED last week…. Obama’s too busy playing beauty queen and photo op king to give a crap about anyone but himself, and our Troops see this.

Key West Reader on June 22, 2010 at 6:00 PM

In this case, McChrystal should be fired. Just because Obama is weak and conservatives don’t like him, doesn’t give McChrystal the right, under our form of government, to bad mouth his CIC – no matter how right he is. Whether you like it or not, our Republic has stood for so long, because no military person has placed himself above his civilian commander. He should be fired on general principle! We have a lot of fired generals in our history. This guy is not magic, and isn’t any better than other fired generals.

Old Country Boy on June 22, 2010 at 6:02 PM

I thought the fly was that ugly mole growing hair!

clnurnberg on June 22, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Lol, a bump next to his lip to accompany the bump next to his nose. But only one bump moves.

petefrt on June 22, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Has Michael Yon ever said specifically why he’s so critical of McChrystal? I saw various things on his facebook feed but nothing really specific.

TexasDan on June 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM

Wonder what that fly is thinking.

petefrt on June 22, 2010 at 5:59 PM

Well they are attracted to most forms of _ _ _ _.

Did I say that out loud?

tru2tx on June 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM

ConservativePartyNow on June 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Good news!

petefrt on June 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM

tru2tx on June 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM

Photo opp for the prez. Bad press for the fly.

petefrt on June 22, 2010 at 6:08 PM

By having McChrystal submit his resignation but refusing to accept it, Obama gets to save face while also retaining him in the field.

AWOL time me thinks

cmsinaz on June 22, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Update: Time is now walking back Klein’s scoop a bit,

So it was an offer to offer? Can we walk it back a little further to an offer to offer to offer if it was in the form of a question?

Dusty on June 22, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Oh, and Karzai loves him some Stanley. Duh

In his first two months on the job, McChrystal has moved with alacrity to shift the focus of U.S. and NATO troops from chasing the Taliban to protecting cities and towns, reasoning that expanding areas of population security would have greater impact on the insurgency than a series of raids.
Soon after arriving in Kabul, McChrystal issued a “tactical directive” to all forces under his command: The use of airstrikes on housing compounds, which have caused hundreds of civilian casualties since 2001 and stoked deep anger among Afghans, would be restricted to the most clear and critical cases.

McChrystal said bombs could be dropped only when solid intelligence showed that high-level militants were present or U.S. forces were in imminent danger. He made it clear he would rather allow a few rank-and-file Taliban fighters to get away than to flatten a house whose occupants might include women and children.

funky chicken on June 22, 2010 at 6:11 PM

I just don’t understand. Why can’t McChrystal simply offer to buy Barack a beer, sit down and talk it over.

parke on June 22, 2010 at 6:11 PM

AWOL time me thinks

[cmsinaz on June 22, 2010 at 6:09 PM]

Can McChrystal refuse the refusal?

Dusty on June 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM

By having McChrystal submit his resignation but refusing to accept it, Obama gets to save face while also retaining him in the field.
AWOL time me thinks

cmsinaz on June 22, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Present!

Key West Reader on June 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM

This article says CBS is now confirming resignation

ConservativePartyNow on June 22, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Photo opp for the prez. Bad press for the fly.

petefrt on June 22, 2010 at 6:08 PM

LMAO :-)

jimver on June 22, 2010 at 6:14 PM

I blame Bush.

stevezilla on June 22, 2010 at 6:16 PM

This article says CBS is now confirming resignation

ConservativePartyNow on June 22, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Article is poorly written. It should say that McChrystal will determine if he is willing to continue to serve under this ignorant precedent vs. “Obama deciding his … fate”. Screw that. I’d like to see him resign his post with honor and dignity and to he!! with the obamapolitics of it all. He spoke out because he NEEDED to speak out. Let the chips fall where they may.

Key West Reader on June 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Can McChrystal refuse the refusal?

Dusty on June 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM

hmmmmm

cmsinaz on June 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

In this case, McChrystal should be fired. Just because Obama is weak and conservatives don’t like him, doesn’t give McChrystal the right, under our form of government, to bad mouth his CIC – no matter how right he is. Whether you like it or not, our Republic has stood for so long, because no military person has placed himself above his civilian commander. He should be fired on general principle! We have a lot of fired generals in our history. This guy is not magic, and isn’t any better than other fired generals.

Old Country Boy on June 22, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Agreed.

Whether or not he and his team are correct in their assessment of Commander Kickass in Chief (and I believe they are), this pretty much amounts to insubordination and should not be tolerated. I know if I bad-mouthed my boss in a national publication, I’d probably be looking for work as well.

But worse than that, I think it betrays a real lack of judgment that he allowed any of this to be revealed to a press outlet in the first place. I realize that most of it came from his team, but I’m not sure I want a guy who can’t pick teammates who don’t have any more sense than to run their mouths in front of the “enemy,” so to speak.

Of course, by that same token, it says a little something about Obama’s judgment too, since he picked the guy. And the guy voted for him which is just bizarre.

I guess the only thing that bugs me about it is that now Barry is going to have the opportunity to lord all over the guy. I can tell from the reaction we’ve gotten from the administration thus far that they are hardly going to handle this in a mature manner.

NoLeftTurn on June 22, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Update: McChrystal offers resignation? Update: Or did he merely offer to resign?

What’s the difference?

joe_doufu on June 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Obama is screwed either way.
If he fires him then he makes a HUGE mistake .
Reality is that winter will set into the theatre in Sept. so there is another 90 days of fighting , then hunker down to go home in the spring.
If Obama lets him stay then he is WEAK , and has made another tactical mistake in his war plan .
Couldnt happen to a more ( OBama ) treacherous person .
The terrorist will love this

ELMO Q on June 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Wonder what that fly is thinking.

petefrt on June 22, 2010 at 5:59 PM

Whatever it is you know its more intelligent than anything thoughts coming out of the oval office.

SayNo2-O on June 22, 2010 at 6:20 PM

The point of this being?

The war there isn’t going well. McChrystal either can’t win it or isn’t being allowed to win it.

If the real issue is to save face for Obama, then our priorities are too screwed up to possibly fix.

lorien1973 on June 22, 2010 at 5:01 PM

I’m afraid I agree with this.
I actually don’t think the RS article was all that critical of Maobama or if it was, McChrystal criticized the big O obliquely through a string of Barry’s proxies, like Eikenberry.
Basically, I think this McChrystal piece was McChrystal’s way of saying “I f*cked up. I trusted him.”(meaning BHO).
McChrystal knows we’re losing to the Taliban and that our guys are getting killed now more than ever and now, McChrystal knows that it’s because of O’s disastrous strategy that he helped implement.

If McChrystal’s fired, Obama should be, also.
“Fix the problem.”

Jenfidel on June 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM

If McChrystal resigns (for his ‘poor judgment’) he will take the Afghanistan debacle with him. Obama will be shown to be struggling to find competent military officers to carry out an effective campaign.

Skandia Recluse on June 22, 2010 at 6:22 PM

Eikenberry “has no plan, didn’t get COIN [counterinsurgency] when he was the commander and still doesn’t.”

COIN, when applied to very Islamic Afghanistan, is insanity. COIN is what McCrystal has been using basically since he took command. How has it been working out?

Tav on June 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM

If McChrystal’s fired, Obama should be, also.
“Fix the problem.”

Jenfidel on June 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM

That’s correct, dont treat the symptoms fight the disease. While Rome Burns Big O just plays golf. As an American I feel much better now.

SayNo2-O on June 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM

By having McChrystal submit his resignation but refusing to accept it, Obama gets to save face while also retaining him in the field.

Save face? It would make Obama look even more ridiculous.

Tav on June 22, 2010 at 6:28 PM

There is not a general anywhere that can truthfully win this war with Obama and leftists running the show. McCrystal made his bed and he can sleep in it but there just is no way this war can be won with the current crop of idiots in this administration.

fourdeucer on June 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM

I suppose we can expect this decision to take as long as the one re:troop request?

TexasDan on June 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM

COIN? Isn’t that what Patreaus did in Iraq? The way it is described here, we can not win this war. We are too afraid we’ll kill someone.

Vince on June 22, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Wonder what that fly is thinking.

petefrt on June 22, 2010 at 5:59 PM

“So this is the sh$t geyser they call Old Faithful.”

Dusty on June 22, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Has Michael Yon ever said specifically why he’s so critical of McChrystal? I saw various things on his facebook feed but nothing really specific.

TexasDan on June 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM

If they have lost Walter Cronkite Michael Yon they have lost the war.

Tav on June 22, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Toby Harnden of the Telegraph says a source tells him that McChrystal has indeed tendered his resignation and that the White House is “actively discussing a replacement for the chairs on the Titanic” in case Obama accepts it.

Tav on June 22, 2010 at 6:34 PM

NYT

That war effort is lagging, however, and the comments by General McChrystal illustrated the disarray and enmity among the president’s Afghanistan team, as well as the tensions between the president and the military, at a time when casualties are rising sharply and international support falling.

McChrystal’s staff did him in. They don’t like spartan. And Dohbama fell for the punchline with hurt feelings, as if he can neither take a joke nor can he learn from criticism, being so perfect already. NOW, Dohbama calls for unity within his Afghanistan White House team.

maverick muse on June 22, 2010 at 6:36 PM

Provided that replacing him wouldn’t instantly wreck the whole mission — which isn’t exactly rolling along anyway — I’d fire him.

If it would instantly wreak the whole mission – which is a clusterfark – I’d fire him.

Tav on June 22, 2010 at 6:37 PM

From Treacher:

Perhaps the most troubling revelation is that the general’s favorite beer is Bud Light Lime. Why would you admit something like that in public? If Obama’s going to fire him, it should be for that.

I have to agree.

Rhinoboy on June 22, 2010 at 6:38 PM

[Tav on June 22, 2010 at 6:34 PM]

Interesting that it’s all resignation talk, so I go to googlenews and CBS is reporting that Obama stated he will decide whether to fire McChrystal after the meeting.

Dusty on June 22, 2010 at 6:38 PM

However true that may be, it’s the last thing a commander should want troops in the field believing about a C-in-C who’s sending them into combat, especially given the preexisting stereotype of Democrats being “wimpy” on war.

Allah

There are plenty of Democrats who wouldn’t be universally viewed as war wimps. Can’t think of any right off, but there must be, right?

But Obama is far wimpier than even the average Democrat. He’s an effete sissy of a man with a visible disdain for the military, and for the rest of our culture for that matter. It’s hilarious that McChrystal holds him in such contempt, but entirely predictable.

Jaibones on June 22, 2010 at 6:38 PM

I suppose we can expect this decision to take as long as the one re:troop request?
TexasDan on June 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Word is that Zero will issue a decision tomorrow. Thank G-d McChrystal didn’t F up over the weekend and interrupt The One’s golf game, then we’d see some a** kicking for sure…

joejm65 on June 22, 2010 at 6:40 PM

“The entire COIN strategy is a fraud perpetuated on the American people. The idea that we are going to spend a trillion dollars to reshape the culture of the Islamic world is utter nonsense.”
(Douglas Macgregor, a retired colonel who went to West Point with McChrystal)

Tav on June 22, 2010 at 6:41 PM

There is not a general anywhere that can truthfully win this war with Obama and leftists running the show. McCrystal made his bed and he can sleep in it but there just is no way this war can be won with the current crop of idiots in this administration.

fourdeucer on June 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM

+1000 (unfortunately, it’s true. All those lives lost and for what? We just about had this war won on both fronts(Iraq and Afghanistan) when Obama took the-ahem-helm.)
God be with our troops and may He bless them double for serving under this McChrystal hot dog and the cluess C-i-C who hates the military and this country and shows it in everything he does.

Jenfidel on June 22, 2010 at 6:42 PM

I’m an Army Vet. I understand the Chain of Command. McChrystal was in error. HOWEVER, that would be for normal times. This is not a normal presidency nor is Obama a normal president. He is abusive of the troops and has been abusive to his country. He is weakening our overall defense daily. He doesn’t care. This idiot CIC called for special circumstances. Go McChrystal, it was wrong, but you did it now resign with dignity and do NOT meet with that a$$h…. He doesn’t deserve to be in the same room as an honored soldier such as this you. Destruction of our long held values and standards and virtue as a country emanate from Obama every where he goes. Scum bag.

highninside on June 22, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Respect? Personally, McChrystal could kick Obama in the groin for all I care. The point is that BOTH of them are responsible for the sagging troop morale and the loss of initiative in Afghanistan with their insane rules of engagement policy. Political correctness, which both Obama and McChrrystal espouse, has not only killed American soldiers but also has emboldened the Taliban. Before, they thought we were idiots. Now they think we are weak, sissified, effeminate f’ing idiots.

MaiDee on June 22, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Do not read too much into the issue of Obama supposedly being intimidated during his meeting with the top brass. Now, it is an historical fact that the man who commanded us through our greatest war, FDR, was seriously worried about a military coup before WW II and was always somewhat intimidated by the brilliant Chief of Staff, George C. Marshall (his wife Eleanor, used to get upset about it). The simple truth is that all of our presidents, except for Washington, Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower, have probably found our senior military officers a bit intimidating. That’s OK.

John Adams on June 22, 2010 at 6:45 PM

MaiDee on June 22, 2010 at 6:42 PM

yep

funky chicken on June 22, 2010 at 6:48 PM

Do not read too much into the issue of Obama supposedly being intimidated during his meeting with the top brass. Now, it is an historical fact that the man who commanded us through our greatest war, FDR, was seriously worried about a military coup before WW II and was always somewhat intimidated by the brilliant Chief of Staff, George C. Marshall (his wife Eleanor, used to get upset about it). The simple truth is that all of our presidents, except for Washington, Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower, have probably found our senior military officers a bit intimidating. That’s OK.

John Adams on June 22, 2010 at 6:45 PM

No, it’s not OK.
As President and Commander-in-Chief, his job requires him to work with the military–especially in wartime–regardless of his personal problems or feelings.
And NObama ran as a wartime Precedent. (FDR did not.)
Maobama’s intimidated because not only do the military brass have real jobs, which he’s never had, but they have jobs that require guts and putting your life on the line and a job where the soldiers know that making the wrong decisions costs other people their lives.
Obama can’t deal with that kind of integrity and responsibility.

Jenfidel on June 22, 2010 at 6:50 PM

Respect? Personally, McChrystal could kick Obama in the groin for all I care. The point is that BOTH of them are responsible for the sagging troop morale and the loss of initiative in Afghanistan with their insane rules of engagement policy. Political correctness, which both Obama and McChrrystal espouse, has not only killed American soldiers but also has emboldened the Taliban. Before, they thought we were idiots. Now they think we are weak, sissified, effeminate f’ing idiots.

MaiDee on June 22, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Like the comment except for this: “Before, they thought we were idiots.”
I completely disagree.
Before, they knew we were winning.
Now, the Taliban sees a clear chance to retake the country and somewhere in Pakistan, Bin Laden and his crew are waiting.

Jenfidel on June 22, 2010 at 6:53 PM

Last thing that Barry wants is McChrystal to resign. If that happens McChrystal IS FREE TO TALK TO ANYONE.

GarandFan on June 22, 2010 at 6:59 PM

The smart thing to do would be to throw the 18-month time frame out the window while you bring in a permanent commander. Bringing in new commander gives Obama the chance to walk back from the 18-month time frame without penalty, since it would not be possible to introduce a new commander while sticking to that window.

That would be the smart thing to do. I’m therefore quite sure it won’t happen that way.

tom on June 22, 2010 at 7:02 PM

You cannot tell me that there are not soldiers out there so loyal to McChrystal that they would march into hell with him, who would love to have a certified sniveling worm like Gibblets in their M-16 cross-hairs.

Frankly, if there is anyone making an enormous mistake here, it is Obama, especially if he thinks he can throw someone like McChrystal under the bus and not face repercussions for it.

pilamaye on June 22, 2010 at 7:09 PM

From the article -

Today, as McChrystal gears up for an offensive in southern Afghanistan, the prospects for any kind of success look bleak. In June, the death toll for U.S. troops passed 1,000, and the number of IEDs has doubled. Spending hundreds of billions of dollars on the fifth-poorest country on earth has failed to win over the civilian population, whose attitude toward U.S. troops ranges from intensely wary to openly hostile. The biggest military operation of the year – a ferocious offensive that began in February to retake the southern town of Marja – continues to drag on, prompting McChrystal himself to refer to it as a “bleeding ulcer.” In June, Afghanistan officially outpaced Vietnam as the longest war in American history – and Obama has quietly begun to back away from the deadline he set for [starting the] withdrawing U.S. troops in July of next year. The president finds himself stuck in something even more insane than a quagmire: a quagmire he knowingly walked into, even though it’s precisely the kind of gigantic, mind-numbing, multigenerational nation-building project he explicitly said he didn’t want.

Even those who support McChrystal and his strategy of counterinsurgency know that whatever the general manages to accomplish in Afghanistan, it’s going to look more like Vietnam than Desert Storm. “It’s not going to look like a win, smell like a win or taste like a win,” says Maj. Gen. Bill Mayville, who serves as chief of operations for McChrystal. “This is going to end in an argument.”

Our troops are dying for this!?

Tav on June 22, 2010 at 7:12 PM

So it was an offer to offer? Can we walk it back a little further to an offer to offer to offer if it was in the form of a question?

Dusty on June 22, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Yep, that’s the question now.

As I see it, McC should not offer his resig. He should submit it. Then if he meant what he allowed to be said, stand behind it. Period.

As far as Teh Won is concerned, McC is toast. The only question remaining is, what kind of toast: French Toast, Texas Toast, or toast thrown out for the birds.

petefrt on June 22, 2010 at 7:14 PM

The smart thing to do would be to throw the 18-month time frame out the window while you bring in a permanent commander.

tom on June 22, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Very good idea, but as you know, Øbama is so focused on the political thing to do for the moment that he’s blind to the smart thing to do for the generations.

petefrt on June 22, 2010 at 7:18 PM

Wait wait wait…lemme get this straight. The President receives a copy of and reads an article from Rolling Stone the night BEFORE it is published, but he can’t be bothered to read the Arizona law at all even though his DOJ is challenging it in court?

heh. Priorities.

Onus on June 22, 2010 at 7:18 PM

Onus on June 22, 2010 at 7:18 PM

very good point…kudos my friend

cmsinaz on June 22, 2010 at 7:20 PM

The Wrong Men, the Wrong Time, the Wrong War!

James L. Jones, Robert M. Gates, Barrack H. Obama, David Petraeus, Stanley McChrystal

Infected with an ideological slant toward the Muslim populations of the world, these five men have deliberately placed our Warriors and this nation in the world’s backseat. That the welfare of the Afghan people and that of Muslim peoples around the world is the priority, there can be little doubt.

Tav on June 22, 2010 at 7:22 PM

The President receives a copy of and reads an article from Rolling Stone the night BEFORE it is published, but he can’t be bothered to read the Arizona law at all even though his DOJ is challenging it in court?

heh. Priorities.

Onus on June 22, 2010 at 7:18 PM

Gibbs had to be lying about the claim that Obama just learned about this yesterday. Would this administration allow some dope smoking rock and roll journalist go to print with an interview with the general in charge of his war without looking at it first? Gibbs is either lying or Obama has completely tuned out.

Buddahpundit on June 22, 2010 at 8:38 PM

I read the entire Rolling Stone article. Frankly, I don’t see anything I would consider Insubordinate. Is everyone becoming that thin skinned. So he said Obama looked intimidated infront of an Army of Generals! Obama is a professor who has been probably been spouting anti-american sediment for years in his classroom. Shouldn’t he feel a little weak in the knees when he’s facing Real men with Real power?

Really. Majority of the things McK said we all already know. It’s not like he broke out some huge dirty secret to undermine the president and his staff. Everyone knows OBama’s people are cronies and clowns. Isn’t that what they say every night on FOX?

Seriously though. He got in huge trouble because he said that the Biden plan was terrible. He’s a general, and he was at a press conference being asked what he thought of the plan. Had he said, Looks great. Then years later came out and said, “I actually thought it was terrible.” Every American would be pissed. Why GREAT General did you LIE to us? I believe our Generals have an obligation to the American people to tell us straight and to the point, What’s going to work, what’s not and what needs to be done.

LordJack on June 22, 2010 at 10:06 PM

Just to add a quick question to my last post.

Who thinks McK should in his meeting with Obama, walk in and just b!+ch slap Obama for wasting his time when he’s in the middle of fighting a war? Then turn to the Secret Service agent and go, “What are you going to do? I once killed a man with my bare hands and ate a baby for an Ranger indoctrination!”

LordJack on June 22, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Hmmmm.

Seriously. Is there anyone on planet Earth that doesn’t know that Obama has the gravitas of a turd?

memomachine on June 23, 2010 at 12:41 AM

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