Chris Matthews’ ‘The Rise of The New Right’: Deceptions and Delusions

posted at 12:00 pm on June 20, 2010 by Lori Ziganto

Originally posted at NewsReal:

Last night, MSNBC aired a Chris Matthews special, labeled a documentary, called The Rise of the New Right. I decided to take a quick break from my radical right wing extremist acts like bitterly clinging to my guns and my Bible, whilst fiendishly drawing Hitler moustaches on Obama photos, to watch it. I know. Apparently, I’m a glutton for punishment. However, while absolutely infuriating, it was simultaneously hilarious and almost took my mind off the distressing shortage of windmills in this country.

Almost immediately, two things became rather apparent. Firstly,  MSNBC’s NewSpeak definition of “documentary” is evidently “blatant fallacies and pure propaganda”. Secondly, it’s quite clear that Chris Matthews’ leg ‘tingle’ has moved into his brain, or what passes for some semblance of one. Either that, or he’s merely decided to embrace his cuckoo pants. Plus, he’s a big, fat liar. I feel no qualms about saying that, since Matthews spent a full hour demonizing me and people like me as violent, irrational racists. In fact, the entire show could be summed up like this:

Racists. Birthers. Guns! Evil scary militia groups that have the same “Don’t Tread on Me” flag!!! Chanting “USA, USA” and being fond of the Constitution and, you know, liberty is super scary and ominous. Also, racist. And violence fomenting. Plus, racist.

You see, now Community Organizing is evil and dissent is no longer Patriotic. Instead, that now signifies some sort of marauding mob of nefarious radicals who are doubleplusungood. President Obama said “I want you to talk to your friends and neighbors; I want you to argue with them and get in their faces” , but that was okay because George Bush. Or something.

It’s not okay when the right peaceably assembles, voicing opinions articulately, in full and coherent sentences and using facts and rational thought, because we aren’t supposed to even know how to read! Plus, we don’t base things on feel-goody Utopian ideas of kitten whiskers, fairy dust and magical windmills. We sneaky right wing-nuts embrace real world ideas like individual success is a good thing and that people do not need the government to run every aspect of their lives and businesses. Oh, the horror.

It must be horrifying, as the entire show was scored with super spooky music. A video clip of Ronald Reagan? Cue ominous horror movie music! A Sarah Palin segment? Dun dun dunnnn. Matthews, of course, portrayed Sarah Palin as a dum-dum “failed candidate”, yet also somehow ominous and fiendish, accusing her of putting those who voted for Obamacare “in the cross-hairs.” Get it? She’s totally fomenting violence. From her facebook page.

Matthews continued shamelessly lying throughout the entire hour. I’d be hard-pressed to find even one truth and I’d also be hard-pressed to choose which lie was the most egregious. Probably the most constant lie, however, was the theme of “Racists!” It was also the most hypocritical. After spending most of the hour maliciously demonizing and fallaciously broad brush painting millions of people as racists, he then spent a segment demagoguing Glenn Beck — for saying that President Obama may be racist.

The abject lies continued as Matthews claimed Rand Paul is the face of the new right, neglected to mention that it was a Hillary Clinton operatives who started the “birther” movement, cited Media Matters as a credible source refuting “misinformation” from the right, interviewed the incredibly biased and race baiting agenda driven Southern Poverty Law Center as another source, suggested that the “new right” looks to Pat Buchanan for leadership, called Michele Bachmann  a McCarthyite and compared Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck to Father Coughlin. Father Coughlin, who was a notorious radical lefty, an Anti-semite and, you know, insane.

JennQPublic summed it up best when she tweeted “If I was writing a parody of a Chris Matthews special, it would sound just like this Chris Matthews special.” Exactly. It was almost  a self-parody and included every tired, lame, outright false and, frankly, insanely delusional leftist narrative regarding conservatives.

He ended it with more nonsense and breathless depictions of his delusions of a violent right by, with a super serious face,  suggesting that we remember what happens when there is such ugly and violent rhetoric (e.g., “uphold the Constitution!”) coming from the right: Timothy McVeigh.

Oh, really, Chrissy? Perhaps all that kool-aid has rotted your brain. Here’s a reminder of where recent violence has stemmed from:

It was not the fear of conservative violence that caused Ann Coulter’s speech to be cancelled this week.

It was a liberal who bit the finger off a man who disagreed with him on healthcare.

It was Obama-loving Amy Bishop who took a gun to work and murdered co-workers.

Joseph Stack flew his plane into the IRS building after writing an anti-conservative manifesto.

It was liberals who destroyed AM radio towers outside of Seattle.

It’s liberals who burn down Hummer dealerships.

It was progressive SEIU union thugs who beat a black conservative man who spoke his mind.

It’s doubtful that a conservative fired shots into a GOP campaign headquarters.

In fact, Democrats have no monopoly on having their offices vandalized.

Don’t forget it was Obama’s friend Bill Ayers who used terrorism as a tool for political change. SDS is still radical, with arrests in 2007 and the storming of the CATO Institute in July 2008.

Face it, fallacious Mr. Matthews. We aren’t the ones obsessed with the color of one’s skin, we care about content of character. And neither are we violent, no matter how desperately you wish that to be so. We simply love our country and refuse to be useful idiots. Perhaps it will help you if I explain in hip, simple terms for you:

Democrats, we really just aren’t that into you.

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better you then me watching that bilge.

rob verdi on June 20, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Thank you, Lori. This one is definitely going into the “Re-read Before You go to a Gathering of Liberals Who Condescend to Conservatives” file. Tons of reminders and good info here. Well done.

princetrumpet on June 20, 2010 at 12:07 PM

I don’t know how you got through a whole hour of Chrissy.

Conservalicious on June 20, 2010 at 12:08 PM

As I commented over on Ms site:

Ms Ziganto and assembled throng,

Many points I agree with, but I do NOT recoil in horror at Matthews’ inept characterization of the new right, however. In fact, the more this idiot and his WHITE BREAD cohorts over at [P]MSNBC continue this maniacal and reactionary shrieking, the more they drive any moderate viewers they may have into the waiting arms of that big-time bookie of public sentiment, the terminally self-referential Bill O’Reilly over at FNS.

It’s called the Liberal Echo Chamber people and it is done to make them feel good about life when they get their asses handed to them in November.

As for the anguish you feel over this tripe, be of good cheer because your enemy is merely writhing with mental anguish because their perfect little world — shepherded by their darling Light Bringer — is falling into ruin.

So enjoy; I think it’s why the Germans invented the word schadenfreude.

The War Planner on June 20, 2010 at 12:08 PM

We aren’t the ones obsessed with the color of one’s skin, we care about content of character.

I respectfully disagree. When there is a story involving non whites, you can almost guarantee that a certain portion of conservatives will turn to making racist, racialist, or racially insensitive comments. I’ll direct your attention to a Fox Nation posting. I’ve mentioned this before. The story was about whites not having as much sex as other races. There were about 50 comments and every one of them (not even exaggerating) went something like this: “That’s because us white folks aren’t lazy. We actually have to go out and work and support the rest of you.” I mean, come on.

But with the prevalence of actual left wing violence, I agree that it’s hypocritical for Matthews to target the right wing.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

You have to love these hard core propaqandists like Matthews. He gets his talking points straight from Rahm and the boys at the White House, writes the “go ahead with this new label” piece and the rest of the media will goosetep in line uttering the “new right”(shudder, shudder,fear,fear!)

What passes for mere shallowness is a seriously programmed movement. Why? Because it works so well on the gullible masses.

Don L on June 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

I keep telling my Chinese wife and Ugandan daughter that I must be a racist since I’m active in the Tea Parties, but they remained unconvinced. As are the three Latinos on our Executive Committee, the African-American we worked for in his successful County office bid, and the Asian-American we backed for City Council.

We are bigoted against one color: red, the color of the ink tsunami threatening to consume this nation at every level.

michaelo on June 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Get ready it’s gonna be an all out war against Conservatives.All the Republicans running will have targets on their backs. This morning Rahnm Emannuel said on a morning show that If Republicans take over Congress it would be dangerous. Really Mr. Emannuel? Yeah according to him we are all backers of BP. The old big corporations thing.Hold on to your hats…

sandee on June 20, 2010 at 12:13 PM

Last night, MSNBC aired a Chris Matthews special, labeled a documentary, called The Rise of the New Right. I decided to take a quick break from my radical right wing extremist acts like bitterly clinging to my guns and my Bible, whilst fiendishly drawing Hitler moustaches on Obama photos, to watch it. I know. Apparently, I’m a glutton for punishment. However, while absolutely infuriating, it was simultaneously hilarious and almost took my mind off the distressing shortage of windmills in this country.

You had me at “Last night I watched MSNBC” LOL!

I think I have found my new favorite blogger.

Dr Evil on June 20, 2010 at 12:14 PM

Chrissy evidently likes to toke before going on air. And unlike Clinton, inhales deeply.

GarandFan on June 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM

You’d think with all those Ivy League degrees in state-controlled media, they’d look up the difference between the words protest and anarchy.

The Tea Party movement is a protest movement.

International ANSWER, ACORN, and Code Pink are anarchist movements.

The difference is, a protest movement recognizes authority outside itself, but an anarchist movement does not.

Anarchists recognize only the arbitrary and transitory law of their will to power. With infinite degrees of freedom and no constraints, violence is fully consistent with anarchism. Violence is inconsistent with a protest movement.

Protest movements, consistent with the principles outside themselves which they openly affirm, condemn violence among their members.

Anarchists, consistent with their acceptance of violence for transitory purposes, remain silent when their members kill and maim, or they wink at it and slap high fives after the dust settles.

This is not hard stuff.

Anarchists are dangerous, Tea Partiers are not.

Whose side are you on?

jeff_from_mpls on June 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM

How about the biggest overriding fiction, that the term “right” has any fixed political meaning at all? It’s simply used as a blanket term to reject all things disfavored (even temporarily) by the left (which can be meaningfully defined in terms of its roots in Marxist/socialist philosophy). It is only through this bizarrely-accepted mechanism–cynically invented by the left yet unquestioningly accepted by nearly all–that such things as wildly diverse as Libertarianism, Christian Conservatism, Saudi theological monarchism, a myriad of South American military juntas (many of them overtly socialist!), and the National Socialist German Workers Party could all be lumped together under the same ridiculous label. There is no political “Right”–save that which is arbitrarily designated so by the Left.

Blacklake on June 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Matthews thinks that pointing his finger at other people is going to lessen his own guilt and obsession over race, but it won’t. Chrissy will have to sort out his own race issues at some point. I’m not sure if he’s a racist, but he’s definitely as racialist, and I have to wonder why.

forest on June 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM

BRAVO Lori!!!!!

yoda on June 20, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Doesn’t MSNBC usually run those now tired “Lock-Up” shows on Saturday nights?

Which is worse, watching guys and their daily boring routine lives in prison, or watching Tingles Matthews rant and blather?

On the other hand Saturday night is Doctor Who night on BBC America. So screw MSNBC!

pilamaye on June 20, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Matthews, as in the cr*p of Ratigan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pj0WxuyLXE

has no credibility…unfortunately a modicum of influence.

I think this whole “they’re violent bigots!” nonsense can be effectively stopped with confronting them with an ultimatum:

Until you denounce
A) the Civil Rights Movement as racist,
B) the Illegal Alien (A.K.A. “Immigration”) Movement as racist, and
C) the Women’s Movement as sexist,
and proclaim their illegitimacy in American Culture,
you have no grounds whatsoever to attempt to discredit or marginalize The Tea Partiers.

Frauds and Liars.

Lockstein13 on June 20, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Check out MSNBC’s front page. It shows a photograph where someone in the background holds a sign reading “9/11 was an inside job” next to an article about the “enraged tea partiers”. It is an AP photo. I’d be surprised if such a sign showed up at a tea party rally. It would be nice to know if this was taken at a tea party rally or some other event.

Ash on June 20, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Joseph Goebbels must be very proud of the racist Chris Matthews.

rbj on June 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM

The tingle up the leg has become a trickel down the leg.

RobCon on June 20, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Chris Mathews and so many other of his cohorts keep an old bit of wisdom learned a long, long time ago ringing in my brain: there is nothing more mindlessly violent than a cornered rat!
We’ve been here before people, and every time we keep underestimating the potential for unlimited brutality in these “enlightened ones”. As a group, they are utterly without scruple or self-doubt and they will never recognize any limits that apply to themselves, and that’s a recipe for unspeakable savagery.
Brace yourselves folks, this is going to get a whole lot worse!

Lew on June 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Chris better get started building his socialist reeducation camps and gulags now. This garbage propaganda is not going to intimidate any of us into shutting up.

RBMN on June 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM

He gets his talking points straight from Rahm and the boys at the White House, writes the “go ahead with this new label” piece and the rest of the media will goosetep in line uttering the “new right”(shudder, shudder,fear,fear!)

That is the plan, but judging by the polls it clearly isn’t working.

Remember, the ‘Teabagger McVeigh’ meme was launched immediately following the healhcare bill. In that time Obama has only gotten less popular. Matthews may not be ready to give up yet but nobody is listening to him or the WH anymore.

Go RBNY on June 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM

Good blog. More and more I’m loving intelligent conservative women. Lori Z and others are reaching a new audience. The message is getting out, things will change. I listened to the promos for CM’s docudrama, that was enough mirth for me. He’s a big-mouthed bully whose brain is barely half-engaged. Also a Tip O’Neill ideologue.

Paul-Cincy on June 20, 2010 at 12:41 PM

It is scary to see how thick and fast bold faced lies are expressed on MSNBC.

RobCon on June 20, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Oh yay! I love this game…can I play?

I respectfully disagree. When there is a story involving non whites jews, you can almost guarantee that a certain portion of conservatives liberals will turn to making racist, racialist, or racially insensitive anti-Semitic comments. I’ll direct your attention to a Fox Nation any Huffington Post posting. I’ve mentioned this before. The story was about whites not having as much sex as other races Israelis defending themselves. There were about 50 comments and every one of them (not even exaggerating) went something like this: “That’s because us white folks aren’t lazy. We actually have to go out and work and support the rest of you.” “Jews go back home to Europe” I mean, come on.

Joe Caps on June 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM

I never imagined that going to the polls and voting against the incumbent would be viewed with such horror, such alarm, such anger as is displayed by the media, the punditry, and even the Federal National government. It’s amazing how such a thing absolutely terrifies them. Who would have ever believed that the mere act and advocacy of voting against the incumbent would be considered treasonous?

ss396 on June 20, 2010 at 12:46 PM

Chrissy evidently likes to toke before going on air. And unlike Clinton, inhales deeply.

GarandFan on June 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Crack pipe i’m sure.

heshtesh on June 20, 2010 at 12:46 PM

Chrissy has been non-existent to me since his leg Tingled.

That proved to be his Road to Dumbassness.

profitsbeard on June 20, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Well, if they’re trying to make the “Rise of the New Right” a scary thing, what about the “Ruse of the Old Wrong”? Anyone with even a meager understanding of history knows that collectivism is fatal to prosperity (except for that of the thugocracy, which is its real purpose), and anybody with even a tiny understanding of economics understands why. History has proven the failure of socialism time and time again, but the thug class keeps trying it.

mr.blacksheep on June 20, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Actually, Matthews does a good job at reflecting how ridiculous the left really is most of the time.

Thanks for the links and trackbacks Lori.

Oh yay! I love this game…can I play? Joe Caps on June 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Well played Joe.

Rovin on June 20, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Actually, the rise of the “new right” will result in the fall of the rabid, slimy left and that is the real issue with the leftist scum.

rplat on June 20, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Great post, Lori.

ladyingray on June 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Joe Caps on June 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Wow, great, you posted an example of the left’s bigotry, which has….absolutely nothing to do with the problems that the right has. That’s the common and easy way out, use someone else’s bad behavior to justify your own.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Lol- he compared Beck to Father Coughlin? Beck will have a lot of fun with that, again. He’s already done an entire show on how Coughlin was a Progressive leader, and may be second only to Woodrow Wilson on Beck’s list of evil Statists.

hawksruleva on June 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Well, if they’re trying to make the “Rise of the New Right” a scary thing, what about the “Ruse of the Old Wrong”? Anyone with even a meager understanding of history knows that collectivism is fatal to prosperity…

mr.blacksheep on June 20, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Which goes to the real point of Matthews’ piece. The Left can’t win on the basis of facts, so they always fall back on name-calling. And then when someone like Beck calls a Leftist a Leftist, the get upset, even though Beck isn’t namecalling, but rather using a label that the people themselves use.

hawksruleva on June 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Brave author must have doubled the audience watching Chris matthews lie!
Wonder what the audience was for this mental midgets liefest?

Stimulus money must surely support this tools every show else how does it remain on the tube.

If I ever watched at all I would boycott every product advertized.
Maybe someone could provide a list of those advertizers as I will not waste a mere two seconds of my life watching these lying, vacuous, twits, and Oreally is real close to bein scratched off my list of those I won’t waste time on also!

dhunter on June 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM

I bet if you subtract bloggers and reporters from the audience of this “documentary” you’d have a rating lower than most late-night infomercials.

hawksruleva on June 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM

This fruit is an over-hysterical woman with a good video editor.

My apologies to all the women reading this, especially the attractive ones.

foucaultsvac on June 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM

I always wanted to be part of a movement. wow

On another note does any know what has happened to Freerepublic today???

whbates on June 20, 2010 at 1:09 PM

Tingles has a TV show! Who would have known it?

JIMV on June 20, 2010 at 1:09 PM

I can think of a FB lefty/troll I have since blocked who probably got a woody watching this propoganda crap.

aikidoka on June 20, 2010 at 1:09 PM

This morning Rahnm Emannuel said on a morning show that If Republicans take over Congress it would be dangerous.

Can anything be more dangerous and destructive than what has happened since the election?

whbates on June 20, 2010 at 1:12 PM

Secondly, it’s quite clear that Chris Matthews’ leg ‘tingle’ has moved into his brain, or what passes for some semblance of one. Either that, or he’s merely decided to embrace his cuckoo pants.

Chris has overdosed on Obama gummy snakes.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Lori, are you sure that you weren’t watching a Saturday Night Live skit of Hardball?

cartooner on June 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM

If Chrissy wanted to find real racism, bigotry and hatred (not something imagined out of thin air), he should be reading some of the comments on this story at Wapo.

I can’t remember anything with such vile, hatred, bigoted and racist filled comments in recent history. No surprise, that it’s coming from the left.

BruthaMan on June 20, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Chris Matthews gets more viewers on Hot Air than he gets for his show.
Hilarious or not, he’s just not worth my time.

n0doz on June 20, 2010 at 1:15 PM

You would have thought that when Matthews and Olbermann were relieved from covering the 2008 RNC, he would have learned a lesson. Frankly, it all comes down to Matthews trying to make a buck by ginning up controversy.

Blake on June 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM

I think most of this wackiness on Matthews’ part stems from his unfortunate “thrill up the leg” comment, for which he has been justifiable ridiculed and panned. He deserved it, of course, but I think Matthews’ descent into far-Left dementia is just the result of his complete loss of credibility by anyone on the right. He has no choice at this point but to go full-Libtard. It’s somewhat of a shame. I think at one time he was a legitimate journalist and had a pretty good show, but he p!$$ed it all away to prop up his moonbat Messiah Barry 0. Now he’s just a pathetic joke…who gets a tingle up his leg when he feels something special for another man.

WarEagle01 on June 20, 2010 at 1:19 PM

BruthaMan on June 20, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Fox Nation Website:

White folks just don’t pop kids out like it is a hobby or something cool. We do it abiding to our faith as well the proper time in financial matters.

Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 10:10 AM

conservative and proud
Look at all the welfare recipients, Mostly black or hispanic. They push out the kids and then don’t bother to parent them. White people work, raise a family and take care of their own business. We are tired from living a full,respondsible life. My husband and i are very happy with our lives, thank you very much.

Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 10:02 AM

Southern Patriot
Does that mean us white folk don’t rape as much?

Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 07:24 AM

tx redneck
WHAT DID YOU EXPECT, WE WHITE FOLKS HAVE TO WORK TO KEEP THE OTHER SLACKER AND DRUG PUSHERS IN THE WELFARE STYLE THAT THEY ARE USED TO.

Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 10:06 PM

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Matthews, of course, portrayed Sarah Palin as a dum-dum “failed candidate”, yet also somehow ominous and fiendish, accusing her of putting those who voted for Obamacare “in the cross-hairs.”

They’ve been doing that for 30 years. Probably longer, but I’m just not old enough to remember. Same thing with Reagan, and same with the Bushes.

In one sentence, they’ll be a inept, incompetent stooge that can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. Can’t form a full, coherent sentence. In the next, they’ll be a devious mind executing the most sinister and devious of plots. Which caricature to apply depends on what the argument is.

stldave on June 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM

“We aren’t the ones obsessed with the color of one’s skin, we care about content of character.”

“I respectfully disagree. When there is a story involving non whites, you can almost guarantee that a certain portion of conservatives will turn to making racist, racialist, or racially insensitive comments.”

The Islamists and the their left wing counterparts are organized to post racially tinged messages on conservative websites to make them appear racists. You might me one yourself, who knows.

The Islamists and the leftists operate in the same mode; destroy the opposition’s legitimacy by attacking them as racists, kooks, Nazi’s, xenophobes, or whatever.

LA Conservative on June 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Sometimes I think it would be refreshing to live up to the communist’s view of us.

jukin on June 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Post a link you freaking idiot, people on this site don’t want to read this racist drivel, left or right!

donh525 on June 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM

The Islamists and the their left wing counterparts are organized to post racially tinged messages on conservative websites to make them appear racists. You might me one yourself, who knows.

The Islamists and the leftists operate in the same mode; destroy the opposition’s legitimacy by attacking them as racists, kooks, Nazi’s, xenophobes, or whatever.

LA Conservative on June 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM

And you wonder why you get the label of “kook”?

Since I take issue with blatant racism/racialism (ones which you try and pin on liberals, without any evidence whatsoever), I must automatically be apart of the conspiracy. Hilarious.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:30 PM

Post a link you freaking idiot, people on this site don’t want to read this racist drivel, left or right!

donh525 on June 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Statements like that are made all the time here by regulars.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM

What’s really happened in terms of shifting political winds is Obama driving off his moderate support. The ‘New Right’ is the same as the old one. Obama lost the middle.

There is a large independent, limited goverment but socially somewhat liberal, block which has abandoned Obama en masse due to his fiscal insanity, crummy economic policy, corruption, and crony capitalism.

Beagle on June 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Is it that you identify with Conservative ideology that makes you seem to amplify the racial discourse that you can find on our side? I don’t disagree with you that it exists, I disagree with your generalization that it’s common. I have great hopes for you. But…

Narutoboy, in more ways than you can imagine, you’re exactly what Republicans wanted. That is for young blacks and others of color to take a discerning look at Conservatism and see if you didn’t also think that it served you better than the failed policies of Liberalism. Be patient. You are an example of what are probably going to be awkward times as issues are resolved that hopefully, only serve to bring us even closer. Wouldn’t it be a shame if it drove us further apart?

hawkdriver on June 20, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Was Matthews in the canoe with Carter when the rabbitt attacked?
Maybe it was so tramatic for the poor guy he lost his mind.

” A mind is a terrible thing to waste when you waste your mind,” or something like that!

SARAH PALIN BRING BACK THE JIMNEY CARTER MISERY INDEX AND I WILL SEND ANOTHER $25.00!

dhunter on June 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM

PS Narutoboy and in reference to a lot of the racial comments you cut and paste. You do know what Moby’s are, right?

hawkdriver on June 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Statements like that are made all the time here by regulars.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM

with good reason…..

donh525 on June 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Since I take issue with blatant racism/racialism (ones which you try and pin on liberals, without any evidence whatsoever), I must automatically be apart of the conspiracy. Hilarious.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:30 PM

I have to disagree completely. I posted a link to blatant racism, bigotry and flat out right hatred.

Hatred being perpetuated without even an effort to mask it. Your response? No comment. Instead, you posted some unsourced comments that appear to be from US Government statistics.

There’s a difference between “inconvenient truths” and pure hatred. If you want an example of liberal racism and hatred, take a look at the link I posted.

BruthaMan on June 20, 2010 at 1:42 PM

The less than one million viewers on average who watch MSNOBAMA will appreciate seeing a documentary that confirms what they have already been told to believe whether it makes sense or not. The rest of us, however, are significantly more informed and Tokyo Keith and Tingles The Clown have no sway with us.

wtng2fish on June 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM

PS Narutoboy and in reference to a lot of the racial comments you cut and paste. You do know what Moby’s are, right?

hawkdriver on June 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Narutoboy probably thinks mobys are just conservatives pretending not to be racists or pretending to be racist liberals.

aikidoka on June 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM

I’ve been thinking of getting one of those “Don’t Tread on Me” flags. This gives me the impetus to actually order one.

Making Chrissy Mathews freak out is just icing on the cake.

LegendHasIt on June 20, 2010 at 1:46 PM

The leftist talking points

SHUT UP!
Change the subject (but I did answer that question).
You’re a racist!

Mojave Mark on June 20, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Nice, but it does no good to point these things out. You could make a “documentary” outlining all the points you’ve made but it will fall on deaf ears and blind eyeballs and taunts of “I know you are but what am I nananananana.”

scalleywag on June 20, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Poor Chrissy, no matter what level he sinks to trying to smear the right, he’s just not relevant and doesn’t have any listeners/watchers.

scalleywag on June 20, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Of course it’s common. This ideology, whether we like it or not, is popular with people who have historically had racial issues. People who view things as ‘us vs them’. That is why when a black person or a Hispanic person is involved in a story, you get racist comments.

It’s also about who you think supports your agenda. The American left makes overtly bigoted statements about Israel and others because of Muslims and the international community are against them. A segment of the right makes statements based off stereotypes against those who, in high numbers, support the other side.

PS Narutoboy and in reference to a lot of the racial comments you cut and paste. You do know what Moby’s are, right?

hawkdriver on June 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Yes.I also know that’s one explanation people use to refute accusations of racism. Three common responses: 1. Impersonators! 2. B-b-but (insert ideological group here) does it. 3. Deny that it’s a racist statement, although it clearly is.

with good reason…..

donh525 on June 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Really? And what would that be?

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:56 PM

Instead, you posted some unsourced comments that appear to be from US Government statistics.

There’s a difference between “inconvenient truths” and pure hatred. If you want an example of liberal racism and hatred, take a look at the link I posted.

BruthaMan on June 20, 2010 at 1:42 PM

My point exactly.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:57 PM

I quit watching Matthews about 8 years ago when he started exhibiting signs of hydrophobia. I don’t know who bit whom over there at MSNBC, after that, but it’s a rabid mess.

betsyz on June 20, 2010 at 2:01 PM

The other option I forgot to mention – which was just demonstrated by “BruthaMan” – is: agreeing with the statements made. And those people typically fall under the category of racialist, using “scientific racism” to rationalize their statements.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 2:01 PM

Yeah, I watched about 20 minutes of Matthews’ invterviews of members of the Michigan militia and then rolled off to sleep.

I agree that self-parody is the best description of this drivel.

The funny thing about Matthews is that he is regarded as a golden boy by NBC (where he preaches to the choir), but his ratings have always been in the dumps.

molonlabe28 on June 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM

Of course it’s common.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:56 PM

Your opinion. We simply disagree.

hawkdriver on June 20, 2010 at 2:06 PM

You know you’re a nerd when you quickly scan the headlines and read “deceptions and delusions” as “dungeons and dragons” and think to yourself “what?” and read it a second time :P

lorien1973 on June 20, 2010 at 2:06 PM

It’s funny how Narutoboy has to use anonymous posting (most likely from moby’s) to show examples of the rights racism. We can point to articles written by prominent leftists, lefty radio hosts, and leftists darling in the front-row seat of the White House briefing room. Narutoboy has to search out examples of the rights racism. We are constantly smacked in the face with examples of the lefts.

But as usual Narutoboys racist tendencies let him have selective outrage. The only people more obsessed with race thann him are the other lefties over at MSNBC and Daily Kos.

Ampersand on June 20, 2010 at 2:08 PM

The other option I forgot to mention – which was just demonstrated by “BruthaMan” – is: agreeing with the statements made. And those people typically fall under the category of racialist, using “scientific racism” to rationalize their statements.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 2:01 PM

What you forgot, was the blatant racism being demonstrated by your fellow liberals in such a disgusting and hateful manner, that it leaves no question about the hatred and bigotry of the left.

You “claim” to be against racism, trying in vein to take the higher ground, but when confronted with real racism, bigotry and hatred by those you associate with, we are left with nothing short of silent lucidity.

BruthaMan on June 20, 2010 at 2:10 PM

Post a link you freaking idiot, people on this site don’t want to read this racist drivel, left or right!

donh525 on June 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Statements like that are made all the time here by regulars.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM

I’m not holding my breath for the link. There were allegedly 50 racist comments in a row, but I doubt there is any such thread, hence no link.

forest on June 20, 2010 at 2:14 PM

I love posts by Lori Ziganti and Dr. Zero, when we actually have intelligent commentary on HA.

bw222 on June 20, 2010 at 2:14 PM

Wow, great, you posted an example of the left’s bigotry, which has….absolutely nothing to do with the problems that the right has. That’s the common and easy way out, use someone else’s bad behavior to justify your own.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Random jackasses who post comments on national news websites are as representative of “the right” as they are of “the left.” In other words, not representative. When we say “the right” or “the left,” are we talking about political movements and political ideas, or are we talking about the opinions of a minority of slack-jawed members of the public just because they happen to align themselves with the left or the right in general?

Because if you want to make a racial comparison between the right and the left, it only seems fair to confine your assessment to ideas and policies – and as far as individuals go, to those who are actively involved in either movement, whether they be politicians, activists, journalists or bloggers.

Ideologically, the left is far more racist than the right. It is far more likely to view an issue through the prism of race. The left are obsessed with race. They use it as a political tool. Identity politics are their meat and potatoes. And in the process, they’ve done more harm to black America in the last 40 years than anyone else.

Martin Luther King was a Republican. Reagan did more to improve the economic situation of black America than any other president in US history. Bush did more to help the people of Africa than any other president in US history. Meanwhile, the racist policies of the left have devastated black America. Culturally, the philosophy of the left is responsible for almost every problem in the black ghetto, from illegitimate birth to teenage pregnancy to gang warfare.
Liberals works on the premise that everyone belongs to a tribe. This is the philosophical underpinning of racism. Conservatives work on the premise that everyone is an individual. This is the philosophical underpinning of the opposite of racism. And while things may become a little blurred around the edges, it seems quite reasonable to point this out, especially when the left insists on perpetuating the myth that they are the enemies of racism.

Sharke on June 20, 2010 at 2:17 PM

I’ll give it to Narutoboy. He can take ANY thread and turn it into a thread about how racists all us hot air people and the right wingers are. He has a laser like focus. Some might call it an obsession. A selective obsession about certain racism that helps his argument. I wonder if anyone could see that as being racists…

Ampersand on June 20, 2010 at 2:17 PM

Really? And what would that be?

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 1:56 PM

To point out to obtuse posters, (you may look in the mirror now) a preference by sane bloggers, to be free of mental gnats, (you may look again) buzzing about.

donh525 on June 20, 2010 at 2:19 PM

I’ll direct your attention to a Fox Nation posting.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

LOL!

Exactly ONE anecdotal post makes it fact?

You need to try harder, kid.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2010 at 2:20 PM

Saddam Hussein had in his employment a favored media propagandist, one whom many American’s actually came to enjoy. His name was Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf, we all came to know him as Baghdad Bob.

During the 2003 Iraqi war, Baghdad Bob gave daily press briefings updating the status of the war. The peak of Baghdad Bob’s absurd propaganda was his declaration that there were no Americans in Baghdad, a statement he made as an American Abrams tank crossed a intersection clearly visible in a window behind him.

Chris Matthews has clearly propelled himself to the stature of Baghdad Bob, having lost any semblance of integrity or legitimacy as a journalist all that is left for him is the role of self-deceived and self-parodying propaganda minister.

Congratulations Chris, once your leg tingled this really was your only possible destination.

doriangrey on June 20, 2010 at 2:20 PM

I’m not holding my breath for the link. There were allegedly 50 racist comments in a row, but I doubt there is any such thread, hence no link.

forest on June 20, 2010 at 2:14 PM

Fox Nation apparently closed the comment section and removed all of the comments. I guess it was that bad.

http://www.thefoxnation.com/culture/2010/03/09/study-white-people-have-less-sex

There are screenshots, so it’s not like I invented the story:

http://i48.tinypic.com/rm0jyd.jpg

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 2:22 PM

Martin Luther King was a Republican. Reagan did more to improve the economic situation of black America than any other president in US history. Bush did more to help the people of Africa than any other president in US history. Meanwhile, the racist policies of the left have devastated black America. Culturally, the philosophy of the left is responsible for almost every problem in the black ghetto, from illegitimate birth to teenage pregnancy to gang warfare.

Sharke on June 20, 2010 at 2:17 PM

Don’t confuse the kid with facts.

PS, you forgot one-the first African American US Senator since Reconstruction was also a Republican. From Massachusetts, to boot.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2010 at 2:24 PM

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 2:22 PM

We feel your pain.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 2:22 PM

You really shouldn’t make racist comments on other websites.

lorien1973 on June 20, 2010 at 2:28 PM

While Chrissy is no doubt a serious liberal, he’s also a capitalistic entertainer who’s looking for ratings. So, if over-the-top leftist crapola can get people to watch, so much the better as far as he’s concerned. The bottom line: don’t take him too seriously.

ncborn on June 20, 2010 at 2:28 PM

We feel your pain.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM

I dont, I’m not a racist and have never been able to feel or understand the rage and hatred racists like Narutoboy feel.

doriangrey on June 20, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Deceptive neocons…

Decepticons?

logis on June 20, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Martin Luther King was a Republican.

Sharke on June 20, 2010 at 2:17 PM

Sr. or Jr.? Because if we’re talking Jr., you’d be dead wrong. I’ll go through this quickly. MLK Jr. advocated socialism. He wanted a multi billion dollar program created strictly to uplift blacks, and felt that even that would not be enough compensation (I’m sure most of you would disagree with this form of social justice, a phrase he used commonly). MLK Jr. referred to the RNC as a wedding of the radical right and the Ku Klux Klan. MLK Jr. supported the presidencies of the 60s Democrats. MLK Jr. said linked capitalism to the oppression blacks faced in slavery. Etc.

Right wingers need to look elsewhere for those who advocated their policies.

You are right about Bush and Reagan, though.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 2:31 PM

The bottom line: don’t take him too seriously.

ncborn on June 20, 2010 at 2:28 PM

I take him as seriously as I used to take Baghdad Bob…

doriangrey on June 20, 2010 at 2:31 PM

Well it appears narutotoy has with the help of others hijacked another thread.
How long, how many threads Ed, Allah!
Bye!

dhunter on June 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM

PS, you forgot one-the first African American US Senator since Reconstruction was also a Republican. From Massachusetts, to boot.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2010 at 2:24 PM

LOL. Stating that MLK Jr. was a Republican had no basis in fact. It’s just a talking point, an untrue one. I – ME – just gave you the facts on that particular point.

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 2:34 PM

Narutoboy, unshackle yourself, for good, forever.

The left is not your friend. They will exploit you, all the while keeping you in the modern day plantation, while their elites preach “for the people”, laughing their way to the voting booth and the banks.

Think and see clearly. It’s all in front of you.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2010 at 2:35 PM

Lori = please stop watching that idjit – he is bad for your blood pressure. No one takes Matthews seriously from either side. I think I watched him twice years ago and after observing his pasted on grin and moronic laugh and watching him talk over everyone on his show with babble resembling a crankhead I came to the conclusion that he smokes pot 24/7 and likely couldn’t pass a drug test if he studied.

Great post Lori!

iam7545 on June 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM

There are screenshots, so it’s not like I invented the story:

http://i48.tinypic.com/rm0jyd.jpg

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 2:22 PM

I didn’t say you invented the story, but I do think you exaggerated – alot:

There were about 50 comments and every one of them (not even exaggerating) went something like this: “That’s because us white folks aren’t lazy. We actually have to go out and work and support the rest of you.” I mean, come on.

Apparently you were exaggerating, as you have completely failed to back up your breathless claims of unanimous right wing racism in some comment section that doesn’t exist anymore – or whatever. (Not that inappropriate comments at Fox Nation prove anything – could be anyone making them – like lefty trolls posing as “rednecks”.)

forest on June 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM

like lefty trolls posing as “rednecks”.)

forest on June 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM

Narutoboy could have made 49 of them. Means nothing. Just think clearly and see. The truth will always set you free.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2010 at 2:39 PM

Apparently you were exaggerating, as you have completely failed to back up your breathless claims of unanimous right wing racism in some comment section that doesn’t exist anymore – or whatever. (Not that inappropriate comments at Fox Nation prove anything – could be anyone making them – like lefty trolls posing as “rednecks”.)

forest on June 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM

Yeah, because Fox Nation employees DELETED the comment section, that proves I was exaggerating. Sure. I have no control over what they do with their comments. I posted a screenshot of one of the comments that was there before they went ahead and shut off the comments completely. Why would they have done that if there wasn’t an abundance of racially charged comments?

Narutoboy on June 20, 2010 at 2:39 PM

ncborn on June 20, 2010 at 2:28 PM

Chrissy has little left to do, but to perform to the few occupied seats left in the theater, watching his pathetic play.

Sorry Chris, the train’s left the station.

donh525 on June 20, 2010 at 2:42 PM

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