Good news: North Korea finally gives up on communism
posted at 7:11 pm on June 18, 2010 by Allahpundit
No foolin’. Sounds like the free market, while still officially verboten, is finally here to stay.
Bowing to reality, the North Korean government has lifted all restrictions on private markets — a last-resort option for a regime desperate to prevent its people from starving.
In recent weeks, according to North Korea observers and defector groups with sources in the country, Kim Jong Il’s government admitted its inability to solve the current food shortage and encouraged its people to rely on private markets for the purchase of goods. Though the policy reversal will not alter daily patterns — North Koreans have depended on such markets for more than 15 years — the latest order from Pyongyang abandons all pretense of a central, planned economy…
As of May 26, the government no longer forces markets to close at 6 or 7 p.m., has dropped the rule restricting customers to women older than 40 and has lifted a ban on certain goods being sold. One city official in the city of Pyungsung informed the Good Friends humanitarian group that the living standard had “drastically decreased since the currency exchange, and the government cannot provide distribution so they have to bring the market back up.”…
Compared with the peak of the food crisis, in the mid and late ’90s, “the actual amount of food — less is available now,” said Kim Heung-gwang, a North Korean defector and president of a group called North Korea Intellectuals Solidarity. “But back then, the food circulation industry wasn’t as built up. Even though the absolute amount of food is less now than it was 15 years ago, I think the starvation problem will be less significant.”
The key to this, as alluded to in the blockquote and as WaPo explains in more detail, is last year’s currency exchange, in which the NorKs tried to counter inflation by announcing that 100 units of the extant currency would henceforth only be worth one unit. No problem there — except for one small detail. They set a limit on how much currency each citizen could exchange, so if you had the equivalent of $100,000 stashed away in “old” money and the exchange cap was set at $100 of “new” money, guess what: You just lost the equivalent of $90,000. With people’s savings up in smoke, a new round of starvation duly began and now they’re trying to head it off by all but declaring defeat at the hands of the vengeful ghost of Adam Smith.
An interesting detail, though, is why they set that exchange cap in the first place. Time offered a theory last year:
The second reason for the crackdown — as ever with Pyongyang — is control. The government allowed black markets to proliferate this decade out of desperation, but they had grown to the point where the leadership may have begun to feel threatened. Small traders and black markets existed outside of government control, and by definition at some point the regime was not going to tolerate that, analysts say. “The breakaway, snowballing market is a threat to the regime,” says Lim Kang-taeg, senior research fellow at the Korean Institute for National Unification, a government-sponsored think tank in Seoul. “This is a significant blow leveled at the market, and will help the government tighten up control.”
The fact that they’re now bowing to the same market they tried to starve six months ago speaks volumes. There’s surely no moral imperative within the leadership to prevent mass starvation, so I can only guess that Kim and company have concluded they’re so weak that another round of famine could actually topple the government. Which, incidentally, wouldn’t be the first signal we’ve had in that regard: Remember this post from March? Irony of ironies, the dreaded free market might now actually be the only way to preserve authoritarian rule in Pyongyang, a lesson learned long ago by Kim’s friends in Beijing. Speaking of which, your exit question via WaPo: Is the market-ization of North Korea evidence that China’s suddenly gotten stingy with aid?









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As usual, the planned economy approach is shown as a failure and thus abandoned.
Someone tell Nobama yet?
Holger on June 18, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Maybe the Alvin Greene doctrine has had some positive effect!
clnurnberg on June 18, 2010 at 7:14 PM
But don’t worry, this doesn’t mean communism doesn’t work…it just hasn’t been tried by the right people.
Jim-Rose on June 18, 2010 at 7:16 PM
And,thats because Kim Ill sees the successful Socialism
that is taking root in America!!(sarc).
canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 7:16 PM
He started to smoke nervously.
the_nile on June 18, 2010 at 7:17 PM
Communism fails once again.
But I’m sure the “intellectuals” will be here to inform us that it wasn’t Communism that failed but rather the leaders who didn’t implement it properly.
amerpundit on June 18, 2010 at 7:17 PM
Seven Percent Solution on June 18, 2010 at 7:19 PM
I don’t pretend to be an economist.
But there are a bunch of people who think that the North Korean wealth grab, is just like the Russian wealth grab and will be just like the Obama wealth grab.
Corrupt governments seem to have similar characteristics.
CrazyGene on June 18, 2010 at 7:20 PM
Great…so at best, we get another China in the region. A totalitarian crony-capitalist state.
I guess Obama will soon be apologizing to the Norks for the Arizona immigration bill as well.
AUINSC on June 18, 2010 at 7:20 PM
Are the hats really big, or are the Norks just really small?
Cicero43 on June 18, 2010 at 7:20 PM
Norks have no food and are sorta on the skinny side
clnurnberg on June 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM
Ah yes, that excuse.
CPT. Charles on June 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM
Ronery…I’m so ronery.
hillbillyjim on June 18, 2010 at 7:22 PM
Ugh,for some reason,I bet some do-gooder Liberal
will suggest a loan,ahem,bailout!(sarc).
canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 7:22 PM
It’s kind of hard for a country to make viable threats of total war on the South when all your citizens are starving to death.
Alternate explanation:
It’s hard to maintain viable threats of total war when the looming famine is pointing you towards asking the South for food assistance.
Dusty on June 18, 2010 at 7:22 PM
Between the failure of European socialism and Kim Il facing failure, I hope our ‘Dear Leader’ is listening.
Americans want jobs, Captain Kick Ass, not more speeches.
Cody1991 on June 18, 2010 at 7:22 PM
DAMN! Now what I am going to do with the 10,000 “Kim Be Illin’” bumper stickers I’ve had printed? I guess I can always give them away at Halloween.
madmonkphotog on June 18, 2010 at 7:23 PM
Ronery I say…cwap, where’s my Allbwight basketball?
hillbillyjim on June 18, 2010 at 7:23 PM
Our dear leader wants power and Michele wants us to skinny down anyway, remember “the world” says we can’t eat what we want, etc etc
clnurnberg on June 18, 2010 at 7:24 PM
….or is it basketbaw
hillbillyjim on June 18, 2010 at 7:24 PM
Is the market-ization of North Korea evidence that China’s suddenly gotten stingy with aid?
==================================
Could be,I wonder if China sent NK a really terse
nasty letter!!!!
canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 7:24 PM
Awesome. Does that mean Obama and Co. can figure out the same thing about health care?
MadisonConservative on June 18, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Well…
… at least Obowma is half way there.
Seven Percent Solution on June 18, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Now they want to sell their Nukes and missiles at market prices to Iran instead of give them away….
albill on June 18, 2010 at 7:27 PM
It’s truly amazing that we are such a backwater nation.
Our “glorious leadership” is truly ignorant to the political doctrine I like to call “Been there, done that”.
Everywhere, every time, the marxo-maoist command economy is a failure.
Just like TOTUS and President Kickass.
roscopico on June 18, 2010 at 7:30 PM
Kim Jong Il, you would do well to remember the words of Richard M. Nixon… it’s tough to get the toothpaste back into the tube.
I hope you have your bags packed and a good supply of US currency to travel with.
JohnGalt23 on June 18, 2010 at 7:30 PM
Putin sure is trying hard to do it though.
chemman on June 18, 2010 at 7:38 PM
wow.
moonbatkiller on June 18, 2010 at 7:38 PM
If by “evidence” you mean “the only possible explanation,” then the answer is yes.
I have no doubt that Kim Jung Il is very severely mentally defective. But even HE isn’t stupid enough to think Communism is a potentially viable economic system. And you don’t murder millions of people and then suddenly start growing a conscience.
It’s all about control. And if a government is giving any of it up, the only possible reason is that they have no other alternative.
logis on June 18, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Yes.
PakviRoti on June 18, 2010 at 7:39 PM
China has free markets, Viet Nam long ago allowed private property. Now North Korea too? Why is the rest of the world moving towards free markets and we are going the other direction?
rbj on June 18, 2010 at 7:40 PM
If the Norks really want to get on Obama’s bad side, this is the way to do it. Europe just learned that lesson.
AUINSC on June 18, 2010 at 7:42 PM
That’s only if you have a problem with killing large numbers of your own people to “restore order.”
TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2010 at 7:43 PM
More like 100 blight-infested potatoes.
John the Libertarian on June 18, 2010 at 7:48 PM
Note to Democrats: Communism is a FAILURE.
Time to come to terms with it. Your ideological forefathers steered you wrong. Deal with it.
Good Lt on June 18, 2010 at 7:49 PM
North Korea releases new tourism video
William Amos on June 18, 2010 at 7:50 PM
I think this might be the beginning of the end for North Korea as a communist country. I think it will be a slow collapse but it will ultimately come.
Perhaps we’ll see the reunification of North Korea and South Korea in a decade or two? Yes or no?
I disagree. There’s one major difference between North Korea and South Korea: China is and never was isolationist like North Korea.
China is able to keep its Marxist system of government mixed with capitalism and still retain control. This means that Communist China will stand as long as its people are fed, paid and protected.
North Korea essentially just admitted that they have no control even to the extent of feeding its own people. If you can’t feed your own people, you can’t defend your country since you need to feed your military. North Korea is essentially weak on all aspects.
And the other difference is that North Korea was essentially in the hands of one man whereas China is managed by a central committee.
That’s a big difference and it will matter as North Korea moves forward without a central planned economy. If North Korea has to make a drastic switch to move from state planned economy to capitalism over night, expect more major changes from North Korea soon.
What’s the score between communism and capitalism? Anyone keeping track?
Conservative Samizdat on June 18, 2010 at 7:56 PM
There’s lots of ways to explain it. A short explanation would be they have looked in the Abyss, with some having gone in. We are only approaching the edge now.
Not too many people, in an aggregate, learn from the mistakes of others. Often, they have to make the mistakes themselves.
As for China, Vietnam and N Korea, they’ve been to the extreme and they had no other way to try.
Dusty on June 18, 2010 at 7:56 PM
Why in the NoKo tourism video everyone looks so happy….Who wouldn’t want to visit there??
Dick Turpin on June 18, 2010 at 7:57 PM
People survive beyond age 40 there?!
PattyJ on June 18, 2010 at 7:59 PM
China, Vietnam, and now North Korea. We’re just waiting on you, Cuba.
Kafir on June 18, 2010 at 8:05 PM
Check out the photo at this post:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/north-korea-turns-to-private-markets-in-effort-to-avert-second-famine/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+OTB+%28Outside+The+Beltway+|+OTB%29
Horrible, starving kids.
rbj on June 18, 2010 at 8:05 PM
There is a shortage of photos and stories describing the starving and deprivation in North Korea.
Thank you for your offering.
IlikedAUH2O on June 18, 2010 at 8:10 PM
Actually, this is a prime causal factor for going to war. What have they got to lose?
Give’em a gun, point’em south, and tell’em that’s where the food is.
BobMbx on June 18, 2010 at 8:14 PM
I think we should go get the USS Pueblo back before they try to eat it.
BobMbx on June 18, 2010 at 8:15 PM
I consider this the best news in a long time.
Another one bites the dust.
Ryan Anthony on June 18, 2010 at 8:16 PM
Hey, they could become a great stop for dieter’s tourism! I can see the slogan now:
Spend a week in North Korea and drop 15 pounds!
tom on June 18, 2010 at 8:24 PM
He probably sold his communist plan to Obama…
right2bright on June 18, 2010 at 8:26 PM
All they have to do is execute some local farmers for not living up to the needs of the state, Problem solved.
Sinking the South Korean ship was not an act of war it was an attempted suicide. Have the South kill the North so that they don’t have to admit that they failed.
tjexcite on June 18, 2010 at 8:27 PM
It’s horrible because there’s plenty of money in NK to feed everyone, but that lunatic Elvis-wannabe in green pajamas is spending it all on a huge well-fed military, caviar, $500 bottles of wine, $200 cigars, mansions, limos, etc.
itsnotaboutme on June 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Kim will probably just let the middle class accumulate a bit of money and then he’ll confiscate it once the threat of mass starvation has passed.
Socratease on June 18, 2010 at 8:39 PM
NoKo took only the minimum motion to attempt to keep order. China had bailed and sinking a SoKo ship didn’t get “relief aid”.
Devaluing the currency was even worse than AP stated. If you had $100k old money but were only “allowed” to exchange $1000 for new money, you got ** $100 **. Really good idea, Kimmie. Especially when the elite took a heavy hit, tho not as heavy as the people. Luxury goods (like Scotch and perfume) sales dropped totally. Kim and a select few had foreign currency reserves.
To add to the fun, The proposed and smartest successor is early 20′s. Not nearly mature in the corrupt ways of maintaining power. Remember that the leader cannot afford to trust anyone.
And Kim is old, in failing health. Can he get ObamaCare? Sure he will even consider leaving the country, sure. In his armored train with 300 guards. Oh right, he did two months ago, to China. Do not think he got good news there.
NoKo still has lotsa trouble to make. Typically a generation. But “that movie ain’t over.”
Caststeel on June 18, 2010 at 8:49 PM
This must be a crushing blow to president Obama.
Another ideal state bites the dust.
notagool on June 18, 2010 at 8:53 PM
ROTFL…..yeah the private market of Piggly-Kimmy
Limerick on June 18, 2010 at 8:54 PM
So now the only people left who believe in communism are American academics and members of the Obama administration.
ajackson on June 18, 2010 at 8:55 PM
Yep. That’s about it. They think they’re cutting edge and that their ideas are somehow new and exciting. As someone who is older I can tell you that they are the dullest, most boring group of egg heads I’ve ever seen. I heard all of this garbage from far more committed, passionate people long ago. These folks are simply a certain type of welfare, entitlement jerks who are ordinary thieves masquerading as a watered down version of old revolutionaries.
They’re a very tedious, tiresome bunch of people.
Cody1991 on June 18, 2010 at 9:10 PM
They haven’t given up on communism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy
ebrown2 on June 18, 2010 at 9:25 PM
The Soviets allowed limited free markets in the 1920s to keep their people from starving. N. Korea is doing the same. Neither is/was interested in giving up on communism, they just don’t want failure. Lenin’s flexibilty was temporary as will be Kim’s.
Corky Boyd on June 18, 2010 at 9:31 PM
Has Kim sent an message to THE ONE, telling him “it no workee!”
GarandFan on June 18, 2010 at 9:36 PM
/fixed
//so ronrey
Ugly on June 18, 2010 at 9:37 PM
Communism will work. They just didn’t implement it properly.
/s
vinceautmorire on June 18, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Obama administration to take credit for solving the North Korea crisis in 3….2….1….
azkag on June 18, 2010 at 10:02 PM
Socialism will surely work if the entire world is socialist?
Dr. ZhivBlago on June 18, 2010 at 10:17 PM
The deaf dumb and blind (aka the american left) will never acknowledge this failure.
Expect double down.
44Magnum on June 18, 2010 at 10:33 PM
The failure of Communism in North Korea concerns me greatly. I think Obama should resign the presidency so he can go over there and fix it.
I’m willing to make the sacrifice. In fact, I’m willing to send Pelosi, Reid, and Biden with him.
There Goes The Neighborhood on June 18, 2010 at 10:53 PM
That loan will have to come from China because the US is already too deeply in debt to China to “loan” anything to N. Korea!
Vntnrse on June 18, 2010 at 11:15 PM
If only I were there! I’d make a fortune on the grass market!
andycanuck on June 18, 2010 at 11:35 PM
So they are moving towards the Chinese version.
Fighton03 on June 19, 2010 at 12:17 AM
Revolutions usually happen, when things are getting better.
Slowburn on June 19, 2010 at 12:44 AM
Oh please!
Winebabe on June 19, 2010 at 1:07 AM
Isn’t it obvious. Not until Obama has there been a leader smart enough to make socialism work. /sarc
Dasher on June 19, 2010 at 1:22 AM
Hey Democraps,pull the turds out of your ears.
DDT on June 19, 2010 at 2:44 AM
The fascinating thing about markets is that they exist, whether you like it or not. All the Socialists, Communists, Maoists, Leftists, Liberals, etc. who decry capitalism and free markets think that you can completely control commerce. It is not possible. Markets, like nature, will find a way. The cost of a good, and the price someone is willing to pay for that good always exists. It can be manipulated, bent, and twisted but it never goes away. It must exist.
drocity on June 19, 2010 at 7:09 AM
There is something overwhelmingly sad that this is the last resort.
Count to 10 on June 19, 2010 at 7:52 AM
You missed FDR’s wealth grab.
Count to 10 on June 19, 2010 at 7:56 AM
Trying to emulate the Chinese model. But it is going to be difficult if Kim insists on maintaining his dynasty after he’s gone.
Those that are surviving today will fight to maintain their way of life so it will be difficult to see how the necessary capital will reach the real population (that is starving and working to support the Kim and his cronies).
Following the money will only be possible under one possible scenario. A very large influx in cash with stipulations that require the tracking of every dollar.
MSGTAS on June 19, 2010 at 9:09 AM
Kim is mobilizing the NorK population to invade the South Koreans and eat them.
cartooner on June 19, 2010 at 9:58 AM
Why on earth would they have had a rule restricting ‘customers to women over forty’. There has to be some Kim Jong alternate reality logic in that somewhere, but I cannot figure it out.
jeanie on June 19, 2010 at 10:12 AM
You’d think maybe the Democrats could learn from this-Any type of Marxism-communism-socialism has a 100 % failure rate. The Soviet Union was not beaten by the West-they beat themselves. The Chinese remain communist only in their dictatorial treatment of people-not in their economic pursuits.
MaiDee on June 19, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Dear Leader is more than likely re-running Vladimir Lenin’s partial return to private business after the Russian civil war and famine had starved five million people. It was the ‘New Economic Policy’ of 1921, and allowed farmers to sell produce on the open market. It succeeded – agriculture increased to pre-1917 levels, and the famine ended.
It also was bait – those who succeeded at it were denounced as the ‘kulaks’ during Stalin’s collectivization, and were send to the gulag or Siberia, or murdered.
Kim Jong Il, unlike Obama, must have read enough history to see that this policy was made to order for him today.
Insufficiently Sensitive on June 19, 2010 at 11:28 AM
I’m waiting for our feckless leader to offer them a few hundred billion to help out the regime (i.e. buy more bullets to shoot protesters with).
Wine_N_Dine on June 19, 2010 at 11:29 AM
They could care less if the people starve. They’re more concerned about the people RIOTING AND OVERTHROWING THE GOVERNMENT over the starving.
It’s what brings governments down; the people realizing that they are being ignored and are dying so they have nothing to lose by attacking that which is ignoring them and killing them.
Sort of like the Tea Partiers but without the tea.
jcw46 on June 19, 2010 at 11:40 AM
Unintended consequence is the dog population will increase.
Wade on June 19, 2010 at 3:38 PM
Meanwhile, Hugo Chaves is nationalizing the food industry in Venezuela, pointing out how wonderfull socialism is! How long will it be before we start hearing of starving people in Venezuela?
Freddy on June 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM
I have but one thing to say -
ANY economic system, be it totally free-market, totally planned, or a mixed system, will surely fail if it is run by corrupt and/or inept people.
Forced collectivization sucks. But so does a ‘free-market’ system that is a sham and a pretty Ponzi scheme.
Food for thought…in more ways than one.
Dark-Star on June 20, 2010 at 4:54 PM
You should have seen North Korea`s “booth” at the Shanghai Expo: Official Kim Ill-sung (present guy`s daddy and great founding leader) postage stamps, Party Handbook, and some examples of traditional dress, with a couple of North Korean flunkies to “manage” it all.
No kidding.
Iran`s “booth” had a couple of photos and nothing else.
So crowded that`s about all I could get to see.
Nobody there, no kidding. Just this American here and few other forlorn souls. Next time I ain`t visiting no Shanghai during no crowded (in general) Expo.
Not that I will be out that way again in the near future.
Sherman1864 on June 21, 2010 at 8:06 AM