Estimated cost of Death Star: $15.6 septillion

posted at 8:21 pm on June 18, 2010 by Allahpundit

That’s the cost with union labor. Without, it’s around $200,000.

This is actually old, old news, but it’s new to me and perfect for a slow Friday on which The One threw himself a little stimulus party in Ohio to mark the 10,000th construction project funded by the Recovery Act. So excited are Democrats by how the stimulus has worked out politically that they’re now scrambling to kill much smaller stimulus packages ahead of the midterms. A toast, then — to the greatest public works project of them all:

Here’s a quick summary:

• First, assume that 1/10 of the 17.16 quadrillion cubic meters of the Death Star is something other than empty space and 6/10 of the total volume is pressurized space.

• That will require 1.71 quadrillion cubic meters of steel, about 134 quadrillion tonnes. That’s $12.95 quintillion in current 2008 prices, and that’s without counting strange alloys and elements.

• Shipping that to space will cost $95 million per tonne: So add $12.79 septillion in transport.

• Now you need to add air, which will require 8.23 quintillion cubic meters of Nitrogen, and 1.65 quintillion cubic meters of oxygen, for a total delivery cost of $2.81 septillions and $212.46 quintillion.

The total: $15,602,022,489,829,821,422,840,226.94.

Yes, that’s a whooping 1.4 trillion times the current US Debt. Or a sightly more meaningful number: 124 trillion years of war in Iraq.

That figure’s based on early 2009 numbers; taking into account the increase in annual deficits since then, the total cost is now … what? Maybe twice the national debt? In any case, if you ever wondered why Lucas got bogged down in a tariff subplot in “The Phantom Menace,” wonder no longer.

Via JWF, a not-so-fun subplot to Obama’s photo op this morning.


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About the same cost as our unfunded liabilities.

amerpundit on June 18, 2010 at 8:24 PM

All about the “O”…

WhoU4 on June 18, 2010 at 8:25 PM

I’d like to order one. What’s the wait?

tim c on June 18, 2010 at 8:26 PM

The total: $15,602,022,489,829,821,422,840,226.94.

Do you accept checks…?

Seven Percent Solution on June 18, 2010 at 8:26 PM

pocket change…..
/obama

FontanaConservative on June 18, 2010 at 8:28 PM

I can`t believe Cheney actually had the numbers run on this!

ThePrez on June 18, 2010 at 8:28 PM

This is twice The One has interrupted people’s work schedules for his own face time on camera.

Whatta guy.

tru2tx on June 18, 2010 at 8:29 PM

I can`t believe Cheney actually had the numbers run on this!

ThePrez on June 18, 2010 at 8:28 PM

One word: Halliburton.

the_nile on June 18, 2010 at 8:30 PM

I’d like to order one. What’s the wait?

tim c on June 18, 2010 at 8:26 PM

They have cut of orders until the ones they have now are processed.

kahall on June 18, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Somehow, Democrats will claim constructing one will lower the deficit.

amerpundit on June 18, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Wearing my Liberal MoonBat tin foil hat,

I’ve got a brilliant cost cutting idea,
how about bring ObamaVoterBots on a huge
vessel,and drain the oxygen out of them!!

But,I need a way to get rid of the unviable
tissue mass afterwards tho!!(snark)

canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 8:31 PM

I’ve got another brilliant idea,how about running the Death
Star on Oil,and get the MMS to waiver a oil pipe into space
application permit,

what could go wrong!!!!(snark).

canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 8:33 PM

I feel like I’ve seen this somewhere before…hmmm…

Bee on June 18, 2010 at 8:34 PM

The following thread winner from Headlines is just so good it has to be posted here:

Hey, I thought we agreed not to tell Obama what came after trillion.

agmartin on June 18, 2010 at 2:47 PM

das411 on June 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM

Red Leader, standing by.

Cicero43 on June 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM

“In fulfillment of the Queen’s wishes, they allow one of her handmaids to journey along with them, but in reality, it is the Queen herself disguised as a maid.”

DUDE…!

… I haven’t seen the movie yet!

/

Seven Percent Solution on June 18, 2010 at 8:36 PM

And how much to plug the damn exhaust port?

MadisonConservative on June 18, 2010 at 8:37 PM

For that much money, do you think we could get that little laser-guard thingy that covers the stupid exhaust port?

DaBird on June 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM

If that’s a little out of your price range try this.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/16/working-lightsaber-the-most-dangerous-laser-ever-created/

So what’s a little cancer or accidently blinding some innocent passerby or maybe causing someone to catch on fire it’s a real lightsaber. / sark

I’m waiting for the first youtube video where 2 geeks catch each other on fire and/or blind each other using these.

warren on June 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM

That’s what some mobile phone geeks nick name AT&T.

ProudPalinFan on June 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM

But,I need a way to get rid of the unviable
tissue mass afterwards tho!!(snark)

canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Soylent Green!!

It’s People!!

Phil-351 on June 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM

And how much to plug the damn exhaust port?

MadisonConservative on June 18, 2010 at 8:37 PM

That’s no longer a building option. But would you like a bonus room?

amerpundit on June 18, 2010 at 8:39 PM

MadisonConservative, you beat me by a minute.

DaBird on June 18, 2010 at 8:39 PM

I don’t care if you mine all the raw materials in space, Algore will still claim this causes Global Warming.

trubble on June 18, 2010 at 8:42 PM

That $0.94 just put it over budget…

Seven Percent Solution on June 18, 2010 at 8:43 PM

You could do it for less with an unlicensed contractor.

Cicero43 on June 18, 2010 at 8:44 PM

And our 2010 funding of the Star Wars Bar (i.e., the UN), a paltry $2.1 billion.

TXUS on June 18, 2010 at 8:44 PM

Damn Government, always looking for a way to centralize power in less hands.

rob verdi on June 18, 2010 at 8:45 PM

I’m sure the Chinese will spot us on the cost.

blatantblue on June 18, 2010 at 8:46 PM

Doh!

Turner Construction will bill their client for a delay day – of course they won’t be upset.

(Nice to see MC posting again…)

ericdijon on June 18, 2010 at 8:47 PM

That’s no longer a building option. But would you like a bonus room?

amerpundit on June 18, 2010 at 8:39 PM

Not even a top kill dome?

MadisonConservative on June 18, 2010 at 8:48 PM

Daddy,mommy says you want to blow up planet Eldoran
because its the rebel base of the Tea Party Patriots!
(snark).

canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 8:48 PM

But thanks to political juggling by Senator Jar Jar Reid, the people are told that it will cost less than $1 trillion over 10 years.

malclave on June 18, 2010 at 8:50 PM

But,I need a way to get rid of the unviable
tissue mass afterwards tho!!(snark)

canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Fuel for the fusion reactors?

If you have taken everything useful, then you have removed all water and they are fairly dessicated. Grind then up and use them for fertilizer in the hydroponics garden.

Timothy S. Carlson on June 18, 2010 at 8:51 PM

Soylent Green!!

It’s People!!

Phil-351 on June 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM

Phil-351:Wait a tic,soylent green grease to lube up the
Laser Gun Turrets,me likey,haha!!

canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 8:53 PM

As long as we’re talking about the cost of the Death Star, I may as well post this.

JamesS on June 18, 2010 at 8:53 PM

That’s no longer a building option. But would you like a bonus room?

amerpundit on June 18, 2010 at 8:39 PM

How much to get it wired for cable and internet?

If the cost is too high, I’ll just sneak aboard during the middle of the night and do it myself.

Anyone have 5 million miles of CAT-5 cable I can borrow?

Timothy S. Carlson on June 18, 2010 at 8:54 PM

“In fulfillment of the Queen’s wishes, they allow one of her handmaids to journey along with them, but in reality, it is the Queen herself disguised as a maid.”

DUDE…!

… I haven’t seen the movie yet!

/

Seven Percent Solution on June 18, 2010 at 8:36 PM

Relax, it’s a fake spoiler. Do you really think Michelle Obama would be willing to pretend to be a maid?

malclave on June 18, 2010 at 8:55 PM

Fuel for the fusion reactors?

Timothy S. Carlson on June 18, 2010 at 8:51 PM

Timothy S. Carlson: You have just earned yourself head of
Green Can Do Management Services!

canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 8:55 PM

Grind then up and use them for fertilizer in the hydroponics garden.

Timothy S. Carlson on June 18, 2010 at 8:51 PM

Timothy S. Carlson: You must be a cat owner!!haha

canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 8:57 PM

Isn’t the Death Star some kind of thing that would fall under the National Defense budget? No worries then!

We only blow that kind of coin on ObamaCare…or, actually, we con the Chinese into doing it…hahahaha…suckers!

AUINSC on June 18, 2010 at 8:59 PM

It’s the prototypical government project. $15.6 septillion in build and 10 cents to destroy by a kid in a beat up fighter pretending he’s back home shooting rats.

TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2010 at 9:03 PM

Now is this for a “Spec” deathStar? What if I want to upgrade the appliances and faucets? Is this anything close to $150/sq. ft.?

Electrongod on June 18, 2010 at 9:07 PM

Actually, when you just rape the natural resources of Naboo and Tatooine, (mostly we needed the Unobtainium to run the reactors) the overhead comes down exponentially. Plus, Earl down in engineering came up with the “outside the box” idea of just vacuuming the space around Alderaan after we blew the crap out of it for the iron ore. So the steel expenses came down too. (Earl got an Imperial Bonus and smart looking plaque to boot for that one).

Sincerely,

Darth

hawkdriver on June 18, 2010 at 9:08 PM

Man if they spent that much money on it why didn’t they guard it with a few of those big triangle ships?
The folly of the Dark Side.

Dork B. on June 18, 2010 at 9:10 PM

It doesn’t matter what it costs. Once you have the death star you can hit all the lefty rebel scum with one blast.

keep the change on June 18, 2010 at 9:12 PM

Unobtainium to run the reactors)

hawkdriver on June 18, 2010 at 9:08 PM

hawkdriver: D*mmit,not Pandora too!!haha:)

canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 9:14 PM

D*mmit,not Pandora too!!haha:)

canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 9:14 PM

This was a long time ago before Pandora in a galaxy far, far away.

And who is this hawkdriver you refer to.

Sincerely,

Darth

hawkdriver on June 18, 2010 at 9:17 PM

“No sir, them’s Military-only. Yeah, it’s a shame. But I can get you any stock you want in a semi-automatic.”

Dork B. on June 18, 2010 at 9:17 PM

The Destruction of the 2nd Death Star was a major cataclysm for Endor, it very nearly made the Ewoks extinct as a species.

Holger on June 18, 2010 at 9:29 PM

I’d rather spend the few billion dollars on a fully functional Liberty Prime.

Death is Preferable to Communism!

Holger on June 18, 2010 at 9:35 PM

Emperor finds out Death Star damaged It wasn’t even fully paid off yet.

TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2010 at 9:36 PM

Holger on June 18, 2010 at 9:29 PM

You know as well as I do that their stupid little Ewok class action lawsuit was frivolous. Considering that all the real damage to Endor was done by those reckless rebel pilots shooting off their cannons for fireworks after the battle; the Empire shouldn’t have had to pay a dime in damages.

Darth

hawkdriver on June 18, 2010 at 9:38 PM

hawkdriver on June 18, 2010 at 9:38 PM

Shut up you overgrown ATM Machine. And stop being a whiny little b*tch about Padamame or Pandabear or whatever that slut’s name was.

Holger on June 18, 2010 at 9:46 PM

All that money and they forgot to cover a two-meter wide thermal exhaust port? I mean, it’s no bigger than a womp rat.

KillerKane on June 18, 2010 at 9:47 PM

15.6 septillion in congressional budget estimated dollars =
167.3 septillion in actual taxpayer obligated dollars.
Remember it’s an election year!

dddave on June 18, 2010 at 9:48 PM

Holger on June 18, 2010 at 9:46 PM

“Rebuild it? Who the @#$% is going to give me another loan?”

hawkdriver on June 18, 2010 at 9:51 PM

These people can’t even plug an oil leak.

SouthernGent on June 18, 2010 at 9:51 PM

Sincerely,

Darth

hawkdriver on June 18, 2010 at 9:17 PM

hawkdriver:Hehe:)

canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 9:52 PM

probably have that laying around in my stash
/obama

TheVer on June 18, 2010 at 9:52 PM

15.6 septillion is worth every penny spent if you factor in the 2.7 bazillion jobs that will be created or saved!

dddave on June 18, 2010 at 9:57 PM

I was going to say something clever about finally having news we could use, but there are some terrible assumptions in that summary.

First of all, STEEL? WTF would you build it out of steel? It’s heavy and malleable, heck, the internal gravity of the thing would probably wreak havoc on it.

Secondly, even if you did use steel, you’d never lift it out of a big gravity well, you’d use asteroid iron, carbon, nickel, etc., and make it in space. Or better yet, strip mine the moon of aluminum and titanium and make titanium aluminide alloy in giant solar furnaces.

My God, it’s like some people don’t even stop to think for five minutes when they embark on multi-septillion-dollar projects.

PS Did anyone ever figure out why the Death Star was so big? As far as I can figure out, it was one big cannon (about 10% of its volume) and the other 90% was all hallways, bunks, jail cells, hangars, and support systems for support systems. It was like a huge public works project designed more to employ people than to actually blow up planets.

Merovign on June 18, 2010 at 10:00 PM

I want to hear Obama say it again, “I Won

Kini on June 18, 2010 at 10:02 PM

Soylent blue and yellow!!!
canopfor on June 18, 2010 at 8:53 PM

/spoiler free

Ugly on June 18, 2010 at 10:08 PM

The Death Star would never be approved under the Darth Obama administration. The eco-liberal storm troopers in the senate would go into convulsions over the fact that there is not one single solar panel in the blueprints.

dddave on June 18, 2010 at 10:09 PM

After the Death Star is built several centuries from now, some future Democrat will still find a away to blame the cost overruns on George W. Bush. (Or do his darnedest trying.)

Bigfoot on June 18, 2010 at 10:10 PM

Yea, but they were space dollars.

BDavis on June 18, 2010 at 10:14 PM

I’ll take two.

BobMbx on June 18, 2010 at 10:18 PM

What part of the 15.6 septillion was federal taxes?

Inanemergencydial on June 18, 2010 at 10:24 PM

Emperor finds out Death Star damaged It wasn’t even fully paid off yet.

TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2010 at 9:36 PM

Cherry coke.

BobMbx on June 18, 2010 at 10:27 PM

I always thought they’d get the iron from an asteroid…cut out the whole lifting the stuff off of a planet part of the equation; it’s already in space.

joeindc44 on June 18, 2010 at 10:37 PM

235 km in diameter. When the Emperor visited 55,000 went without a day’s pay.

AE on June 18, 2010 at 10:43 PM

That’s pretty cheap when you consider the thousands of world economies in their galaxy the Imperial Empire gets their taxes and tributes from.

Daemonocracy on June 18, 2010 at 10:46 PM

Is that in today’s dollars or ‘a long time ago’ dollars?

James on June 18, 2010 at 11:02 PM

I thought projects were supposed to be green these days – this thing literally is a planet-killer.

KillerKane on June 18, 2010 at 11:04 PM

Labor costs wouldn’t be that high since much of the labor used in the first Death Star’s construction was slave labor from the prison planet it was built in orbit around. And then they tested the super laser on the planet, killing all the workers. Are there any doubts that Palpy Baby and his bully boy Vader were dems?

thekingtut on June 18, 2010 at 11:19 PM

I always thought they’d get the iron from an asteroid…cut out the whole lifting the stuff off of a planet part of the equation; it’s already in space.

joeindc44 on June 18, 2010 at 10:37 PM

I always figured they’d find a moon or very large asteroid and simply mine it out, using the resources they find to set up its internal structure.

But Star Wars technology makes getting something out of a planet’s gravity well extremely cheap.

The Power requirements are insane! Anti-matter/matter with a volume equal to the volume of the Death Star wouldn’t blow a planet to dust.

Holger on June 18, 2010 at 11:49 PM

For those of you who want to know an exact figure for the main-weapon output, it is 3.7e+32 joules or roughly 88,432,122,371,000,000 megatons of TNT!

Holger on June 18, 2010 at 11:56 PM

“This administration is now the ultimate power in the universe! I suggest we use it.”

ZK on June 18, 2010 at 11:57 PM

Puh-lease don’t tell Bambi about this.My taxes are high enough already.

DDT on June 19, 2010 at 2:49 AM

Merovign on June 18, 2010 at 10:00 PM

A “not too funny” old expression: An elephant is a mouse built to government specs.

Left and Right

The Death Star wasn’t scary. It was more the Imperial/Warrior culture of a juggernaut. Reactionary. Sloppy enhanced interrogation techniques being the outrage. Conventional forces the preferred method of conquest. Diverse races live with a range of options open to them including making fools of the military. All the Empire can do is destroy whole planets. A pitiful, helpless giant. Right wing.

The Borg of Star Trek fame, were dandy in their diversity, with all kinds of creatures becoming socially reengineered life on steroids. A commune, injesting diverse races and making them one. They wired you in and took your soul for the collective. Lefty and slavery by conformity and forced amalgamation. The whole bunch are dead.

The lefty approach is more scary everywhere you go.

IlikedAUH2O on June 19, 2010 at 4:00 AM

If that’s a little out of your price range try this.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/16/working-lightsaber-the-most-dangerous-laser-ever-created/

So what’s a little cancer or accidently blinding some innocent passerby or maybe causing someone to catch on fire it’s a real lightsaber. / sark

I’m waiting for the first youtube video where 2 geeks catch each other on fire and/or blind each other using these.

warren on June 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM

I saw that, and so far I’ve been amazed that more people haven’t grasped its significance.

First of all, it isn’t a “lightsaber”- a limited-range plasma weapon for close-quarters combat. It’s most closely analogous to the “flashlight-laser” in Larry Niven’s Known Space stories (it was introduced in Ringworld), a much longer ranged weapon.

Second, it’s “only” a one-watt, continuous-beam, blue-frequency laser, based on a laser emitter diode used in DVD players. At ranges up to 100 meters it will burn skin, scar corneas, etc. Now imagine what a 5 to 10-watt pulsed laser would do. (Think “rapid tissue destruction in flesh and bone”, “capable of burning through light structural materials”, and/or “eye hit= brain hit= dead”.)

Finally, the device is 226mm long by 35.6mm diameter, or about 9″ by 1.5″ in English, and weighs about .6 kilo, or about 22 ounces.

Add a pistol grip, a trigger, a set of sights and a safety/fire mode selector- it’s technically the world’s first practical laser pistol.

For a long time, people have mistakenly assumed that laser small arms were impractical because to achieve effective hitting power would require too much energy, about 40kW level, to approximate the KE load of a typical conventional pistol or rifle cartridge. (It takes about 400J, or about 250 foot-pounds, of KE to seriously hurt somebody with a non-lethal center hit- trust me, I used to crunch these numbers for a living.)

What everyone missed in their calculations is that a laser applies all of its energy as direct heat energy transfer- to materials that aren’t very resistant to same. There’s a big difference between KE solid impact and direct energy transfer in the way each one does damage, and it favors the direct energy transfer in terms of damage potential. Simply put, the direct-energy emission applies 100% of its energy as heat- which sheds energy into the target at too high a rate for safe absorption. This means whatever it hits, goes “poof” in a nasty thermal-expansion/burning event. No solid projectile does damage that efficiently.

This little gadget being on the market now for about $200 US retail (over the Internet, no less), tells me that we can probably expect practical, purpose-built laser small arms (i.e., rifles and pistols) to be “operational ready” sometime in the next twenty years. Maybe even sooner.

/just needed to be said.

cheers

eon

eon on June 19, 2010 at 7:52 AM

President visits, progress stops. That’s not irony its the truth. This president has not done anything for the people it has all been for him and his cronies.

The Stimulus funds sound great, but are only vote getter’s. Ask to see a Cost Benefit analysis of these projects and when you find one it is inadequate. Projects funded with Stimulus Funds do not pay for themselves, it is you, me, and our future generations that be paying for these $$$ loosing boondoggle.

MSGTAS on June 19, 2010 at 9:00 AM

134 quadrillion tonnes of steel (antisteel…)

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The Power requirements are insane! Anti-matter/matter with a volume equal to the volume of the Death Star wouldn’t blow a planet to dust.
Holger on June 18, 2010 at 11:49 PM

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My guess is dust and back again… Send it in at 40-50 mps (a starting nudge, plus solar system free fall, plus head-on to Earth’s motion), have it shielded by a 67q tonne regular matter magnetic bottle (leaving 67q tonnes of antimatter… You now have half steel & half anti-steel plates stacked to maximize the annihilation). This should also get it below the surface a hair before the real fun begins.
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1 tonne = 1000kg
1kg anti-matter = 40MT explosive potential on annihilation
1kg matter = 40MT explosive potential on annihilation
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Tsar Bomba – the biggest nuke ever = 50MT
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1000kg x 134q tonnes x 40MT bomb power… = The Hand of God type power…
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I read somewhere that a dozen or so kg of antimatter is more than enough to wipe out the Earth, so long as it’s placed deep enough to ensure complete destruction of the antimatter and an equivalent mass of matter…
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BTW… antimatter is very expensive, so the cost of the Death Star just went way, way up. I know… let’s make two!
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RalphyBoy on June 19, 2010 at 9:24 AM

Man, if you put in on your card, think of all the skymiles…..

itsspideyman on June 19, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Lucas says the first deathstar was built by gianosians/sp? but that does not solve the independant contractor problem with the second deathstar.

cobrakai99 on June 19, 2010 at 12:03 PM

I hear Nissan has a hybrid version in development. It should only cost a few septillion more over the regular version and double the mileage.

I suppose the more budget conscious despots will think about going this direction if fuel costs “necessarily” skyrocket.

Lily on June 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM

The total: $15,602,022,489,829,821,422,840,226.94.

Hey ! Isn’t that about what the predicted national debt is after two terms of 0bama Bin Laden ?

cableguy615 on June 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM

It would only cost 500 billion with non-union labor.

Hard Right on June 20, 2010 at 5:59 AM

They don’t call it the Debt Star for nothing, you know.

ajacksonian on June 20, 2010 at 9:04 AM

It would only cost 500 billion with non-union labor.

Hard Right on June 20, 2010 at 5:59 AM

If you used a non-liscensed engineer, and an unlicensed contractor using “undocumented immigrants” the cost would drop even further than that

Brokenspirit on June 20, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Why would you need to pay for refined oxygen and nitrogen when you could just use compressed air? You’re going to get dinged for compression, containment and transportation of the gas either way.

phelps on June 20, 2010 at 7:28 PM