Video: Arizona wildlife area along Mexican border now a no-go area for Americans? Update: Calderon blames America

posted at 4:10 pm on June 16, 2010 by Allahpundit

Lots of people e-mailing about this story, which is currently numero uno on Fox News’s frontpage. It’s a travesty, to be sure — due to lack of manpower and, ironically, environmental regulations, the feds are seemingly powerless to stop drug violence in the area — but, near as I can tell, it’s not technically “news.” Have a look at this bulletin from the Fish and Wildlife Service’s website regarding the closure of the strip along the southern border of the Buenos Aires Wildlife Refuge. The effective date: October 3, 2006. As Radio Vice Online notes, the actual news (which is unclear from Fox’s story) appears to be that the feds are now expanding the no-go area from the five miles or so inside the refuge to an 80-mile strip along the Mexican border. And by “no go,” I don’t mean that you’re literally not allowed to enter; as you’ll see from the clip below, it’s more of an “enter at your own risk” deal, replete with blaring warning signs of the sort you might see along the perimeter of a bomb range. Arm yourself like that dude who got caught in Pakistan hunting Bin Laden and you should be okay. Exit question: How long before the entire southwestern border needs signs like this? Click the image to watch.

Update: It’s your fault, wingnuts.

In an editorial printed in newspapers nationwide Monday, President Felipe Calderón defended his drug war as vital to the country’s security. More than 23,000 people have died in drug-related violence since December 2006, when Calderón first sent the Mexican military into the streets, according to a government report.

The president directly blamed the United States.

“The origin of our violence problem begins with the fact that Mexico is located next to the country that has the highest levels of drug consumption in the world,” Calderón wrote. “It is as if our neighbor were the biggest drug addict in the world.”


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“The origin of our violence problem begins with the fact that Mexico is located next to the country that has the highest levels of drug consumption in the world,” Calderón wrote. “It is as if our neighbor were the biggest drug addict in the world.”

And what does that say about Mexico? That they are the biggest drug dealers in the world?

Terrye on June 16, 2010 at 5:39 PM

Calderon is right, the U.S. is the like the world’s drug addict. If we legalized drugs, they wouldn’t be a problem anymore, and Calderon wouldn’t be right. So let’s really stick it to Calderon and legalize drugs. That’ll show him.

Enrique on June 16, 2010 at 5:33 PM

Yeah sure. Legalizing drugs sure worked out well for Mexico now didn’t it?

Terrye on June 16, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Hate to say this but—- If we sold weed in the state liquor stores,the mob,messico,and the gangs would go broke .The potheads would pay taxes for a change ,The Volstead act was a flop and so is TWOD.
Politicians have to be getting laundry money or they would have figured they have a crop to tax.

Col.John Wm. Reed on June 16, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Exit question: How long before the entire southwestern border needs signs like this?

I heard that the border was tight in places like Yuma and south of San Diego. In fact there are parts of the border that really are secure. It seems however, that the improvements at security in some parts of the border have simply put more pressure on the Arizona border.

Terrye on June 16, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Hate to say this but—- If we sold weed in the state liquor stores,the mob,messico,and the gangs would go broke .The potheads would pay taxes for a change ,The Volstead act was a flop and so is TWOD.
Politicians have to be getting laundry money or they would have figured they have a crop to tax.

Col.John Wm. Reed on June 16, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Why would they go broke?

Terrye on June 16, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Col.John Wm. Reed on June 16, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Ahem John… Why did we leave the heroin industry alive and well in Afghanistan. Same reason. Too big to fail. One thing that bugged the crap out of me with GW was his sucking up to the Mexican government. No politicians want to tackle this evil. Why?

Keemo on June 16, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Pretty much, because outside of tourism (80%+ GDP last I checked), what do they have to offer their people? Hell, minimum wage is $5 a day. Just saying…maybe gubmint is the problem…

rpjones68 on June 16, 2010 at 5:47 PM

There’s no violence along the border, Barry said so himself.

GarandFan on June 16, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Hey, it’s cool. McCain’s on it. He said he’d build the damn fence, right?

azkag on June 16, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Crap, meant amen John; as I’m sure you figured out.

Keemo on June 16, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Calderon blames America

So does Obama…

albill on June 16, 2010 at 5:50 PM

Sounds to me like Mexico’s administration is about as incompetent at handling crisis as ours. He must have learned the art of finger pointing from our president.

scalleywag on June 16, 2010 at 5:52 PM

I think this is the time for the ‘well-regulated militia’. The Dalai Obama isn’t going to protect the people of Arizona, nor anybody else, for that matter. If Mexican thugs start coming over the border, their criminal intent needs to be repulsed by force. As for that idiot president of Mexico, his excuses are as stupid as the ‘hate the player, not the game’ phrase.

Virus-X on June 16, 2010 at 6:08 PM

Encourage visitors to stay above interstate 10. That’s the ticket, I-10 is fully 50 miles above the border. So they have ceded a 50 mile by 80 mile segment of the park to criminals.

chemman on June 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Same thing is happening in Texas, state law enforcement has sent letters to farmers and ranchers on the border advising them to arm themselves and their family members. Distances and response time being what it is in wilder areas, they just can’t guarantee they’ll be able to assist you in time.

2nd Ammendment Mother on June 16, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Doesn’t Arizona have a militia that could enter the area and clean house of the foreign invaders? I would honestly welcome the international incident fallout.

Grafted on June 16, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Add me to the list that agrees with Calderon – there is a gigantic demand for a lucrative product, and it’s being filled. Since there is no legal channel, it is being filled by criminals.

I go back and forth on legalization. I simply cannot justify hard drugs under any scenerio. Perhaps a combination of licensed and bonded pot – taking away 60%+ of the market – and severe penalties for possession of contraband or hard drugs.

Mexico is a mess with or without the drug issues, but our drug culture is turning it into a narco state.

Might be time to turn back pre-seventies. Caught with cocaine, prepare to get spanked.

Thoughts?

maninthemiddle on June 16, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Personally, I’m a libertarian here. Full legalization, tax the hell out of it, and move on. Addicts and dealers don’t care if it’s illegal. It’ll be there regardless. I mostly agree with how the Dutch handle it.

rpjones68 on June 16, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Shoot Shovel and Shut Up….

Kuffar on June 16, 2010 at 6:46 PM

Legalize drugs, but also legalize discrimination against users. No-one should be compelled to hire, employ, serve, or treat drug abusers. It should be entirely use at your own risk. It would be a self-limiting problem, then. Much like it had been for the previous 6+ thousand years of human history before the drug laws of the 1910’s — during all of which drugs like alcohol, pot, tobacco, opium, peyote and others were freely available (less potent, perhaps, but that means you just need more).

Calzone or whatever his name is does have a bit of a point — there’s no dealers if there’s no users.
At the same time, he needs to step up and acknowledge the problems with his own corruptocratic country.

TABoLK on June 16, 2010 at 6:58 PM

Hmmm, what’s say we put a ten-mile strip along the entire southern border, with warning signs on either side (Spanish coming from the south, English from the north) saying that anybody in that zone will be automatically shot with a predator drone…..

Tzetzes on June 16, 2010 at 7:15 PM

This thread should be blowing out servers. This story doesn’t warrant even 200 comments?

bernzright777 on June 16, 2010 at 7:24 PM

Full legalization, tax the hell out of it, and move on.

rpjones68

However, if you tax drugs heavily the blackmarket will only be marginally affected. Look at cigarettes. The higher taxes are leading to more and more smuggling.

If you’re for legalization, high taxes will negate any positive effects.

chimney sweep on June 16, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Hate to say this but—- If we sold weed in the state liquor stores,the mob,messico,and the gangs would go broke .The potheads would pay taxes for a change ,The Volstead act was a flop and so is TWOD.
Politicians have to be getting laundry money or they would have figured they have a crop to tax.

Col.John Wm. Reed on June 16, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Like the mob went broke after prohibition ended?

Look, legalize pot and gangs will, like the mob did from post-prohibition until the 1980s, grow by staying involved in the now legal business. The only thing that5 has ever disrupted the mobs hold on alcohol based industries (nightclubs, strip joints, liquer warehouses) are more violent gangs like the Russian mob and zealous prosecutors like Rudy was.

Pot is de fatco legal in most places now because if you’re caught using you’ll basically get a ticket unless yu’re on parole or involved in another crime. 50% of prisoners doing time for possession beefs were picked up for other crimes. Libertarians are Utopian on drug use, but who’s going to be responsible for the children of addicts, the stealing all addicts must do to support their habits, etc?

The drug war doesn’t work, but neither does pretending drug addicts aren’t a destabilizing influence on communities. You Libertarians love European countries so much because they let people get high? Do you love the taxes it takes to support those people?

Rob Taylor on June 16, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Go ahead and legalize drugs. Then see what happens with domestic abuse, child neglect and abuse, driving while intoxicated and on and on. When the stigma is removed from drug use – as it will be if it is completely legal – use and abuse of drugs will sky-rocket.

This stuff is deadly.

lonesomecharlie on June 16, 2010 at 7:55 PM

It’s as if our neighbor was the biggest drug addict in the world….and who got your neighbor hooked on drugs in the first place. Answer wouldn’t that be the Pusher selling them and making billions of dollars in illegal commerce….wouldn’t that be your own Mexican Drug Dealers…SEE El Presidente – two can play the chicken and egg game, which came first?

Dr Evil on June 16, 2010 at 8:01 PM

When a country has lost control of it’s own territory, it is effectively dead.

United States of America, R.I.P.

Rusty Bill on June 16, 2010 at 8:04 PM

Easy solution –

Legalize drugs, yes, ALL drugs on both sides of the border.

Won’t stop the illegal immigration problem but it will put a stop to the drug violence.

Of, “conservatives” won’t do that will they? Oh, no, gotta keep fighting the 40 year old drug “war”.

No matter what the collateral damage is to our civil liberties.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6476

Remember, “they hate us cause we’re free”.

robscottw on June 16, 2010 at 8:04 PM

Turn the entire boarder into a US Military base where they quarter and train. When the Reservists and Guardsman do their 2 weeks a year, make it in the boarder region. Swam the area. It would be very little in incremental cost and would cut the problem down significantly overnight.

TheBigOldDog on June 16, 2010 at 9:07 PM

The road from Gila Bend to Ajo to Why to Lukeville (the border crossing) is called AZ 85…the devils highway. That part of the Sonoran Desert is called the devils anvil..hotter than hades. We take it all the time as it’s the only road from Phoenix to a sleep seaport on the Sea of Cortez called Rocky Pt, Sen, MX. In spanish, Puerto Penasco. Thousands of beachfront homes right on the water all owend by Zonies (Arizonans).On your right as we leave Gila Ben,you’ll notice the Barry Goldwater gunnery range. Beware the F15 strafing the fake tank and falling smart bombs. Many, many dead and injured border crossers out there. After we pass through the lovely town of Ajo, we enter the Organ Pipe National Monument. Most dangerous national park in America folks! Finally, after a quick stop at the Why Travel Store to get yer Mexican car insurnance, it’s a hop skip and a jump the last 10 miles to Lukeville and the border. More cops, immigration officers and staties than you could shake a stick at. Stay on 85 and you’re toes are in the ocean within one hour of crossing the ‘frontier’. Nice folks all along the way, great food, cheap liquor. Safe and friendly…so don’t believe all this crap you read.

DrW on June 16, 2010 at 9:18 PM

I saw an Arizonan sheriff on O’Reilly tonight. It really struck me how offensive it is for the left to call these people racists. It is profoundly offensive. There is a legitimate problem in Arizona that has nothing to do with race. And by exploiting racial tensions for their own short-term political gain, the Left is doing a profound harm to the country. I am confident they will answer for it. And for them, there is no going back. Please, if you have supported race-politics in Arizona in the face of that State’s desperate attempt to secure its borders, please do not ever come back to us saying, it was a mistake, we have learned you were right, etc. You have utterly foresworn yourselves, and are worthy of nothing but contempt.

GTR640 on June 16, 2010 at 9:35 PM

All good points friends. If the cartels loose market share to home growers, we still use DUI laws for users and we tax the stuff it might be a start.As far as domestic violence I can think back on lots of cases where BOOZE and drugs were mixing so I think the number will not rise. We also have Darwin’s Law and lots of really heavy using hard core junkies slab out at a fairly early age. I think the key here is not so much use as breaking the south of the border gangs. Once the bastards are on our side of the border if there is political will we can Elliot Ness them. If pot is grown like back yard tomatoes and junkies share it I have no idea how much money will not be spent. The agricuatually challenged will go to the state store and buy so the tax will be there and the can buy some PBR or Ripple to go with the dope. Some states used to sell tested moonshine and folks bought it.
Just to keep what we are doing now backs Einstein’s theory of insanity.All the comments are helpful,maybe we will find a set of solutions that have eluded the suits.

Col.John Wm. Reed on June 16, 2010 at 9:39 PM

When our government puts up warning signs of potential crime and violence along the border, instead of CONTROLLING THE CRIME AND VIOLENCE, then we are truly in deep doo-doo.

Can you imagine signs like that at the margins of a bad area in a major US city? Me either.

iurockhead on June 16, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Mexico and Obama….at war with the USA.

afotia on June 16, 2010 at 9:53 PM

Where’s Black Jack Pershing when you need him?

jnelchef on June 16, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Been hearing an awful lot lately about what the Federal Government doesn’t do or isn’t doing.

Questions:

What DO they do and what ARE they doing?
Do they know?
Does anyone know?

TimBuk3 on June 16, 2010 at 11:27 PM

it’s more of an “enter at your own risk”

In the local Game & Fish regulation books, there is a map with a heavy black line all along I-10 and I-8. In the legend it says something like “The quality of your hunt may vary south of this line”.

Call Game & Fish and listen to them stumble around when you ask how the “quality of the hunt can vary”. Fact is there is so much trafficking of drugs & humans … you could get caught up in a fire fight with drug mules or coyotes. Some of the best Javelina hunting in the country and we now leave it alone.

due to lack of manpower and, ironically, environmental regulations, the feds are seemingly powerless to stop drug violence in the area

Horse puckey. Citizens sit on their duffs waiting for anyone but themselves to do anything. Local politicians stand around grand standing waiting for the next federal checks to arrive and pack the coffers for the bleating welfare recipients.

I think this is the time for the ‘well-regulated militia’

Launch it on Friday, the border will be secure and we will all be back to work on Monday … maybe Tuesday.

AZ_Redneck on June 16, 2010 at 11:45 PM

You hear that Giant Sucking Sound? That’s our country going down the drain!

JeffVader on June 17, 2010 at 12:33 AM

China cured their drug problem, google it and find out how they did it.

mixplix on June 17, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Same thing is happening in Texas, state law enforcement has sent letters to farmers and ranchers on the border advising them to arm themselves and their family members. Distances and response time being what it is in wilder areas, they just can’t guarantee they’ll be able to assist you in time.

2nd Ammendment Mother on June 16, 2010

That’s why I pack a gun. A policeman won’t fit in my pocket. True is the oft repeated quote that when you need help in seconds the police are only minutes away….. or hours away in places like Texas, Arizona and many other wide open places in the west.

Where’s Black Jack Pershing when you need him. – jnelchef

+1000 I have been thinking that for months. I am happy to have you put it into words.

el rey on June 17, 2010 at 12:45 PM