NPR generic Congressional poll in 70 districts put GOP up by 8
posted at 8:48 am on June 15, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
The big news from this NPR poll is that the 70 most competitive races in the House this year comprises 10 Republican seats and 60 Democratic seats. That speaks to both the size of the current majority of 77 seats (255-178) and the political forces arrayed against the Democrats in the midterms. Republicans lead the generic ballot by eight points in these 70 districts, 49/41, but that’s not actually the worst of it:
The anti-incumbent fever that so many have discussed appears only to apply in Democratic districts. As this chart shows, the GOP leads where Democrats have incumbents by five points, outside the margin of error. In current Republican districts, the GOP leads by 16 points, which indicates that voters don’t have much of a problem with Republican incumbents.
We see the same conclusion from questions specifically aimed at testing incumbency. For Democratic districts, 46% of voters want to vote for “someone else”, while only 34% want to re-elect their current Representative. Those numbers flip in Republican districts, with 37% demanding “someone else” and 49% planning to support the incumbent. Yet another question on incumbency showed a commitment to re-elect incumbents in Republican districts of 52% to 39% opposed, while in Democratic districts, those numbers were reversed again, 36/56.
And bear in mind that these were the most competitive Republican districts NPR found.
This poll clearly shows that the midterms won’t be an anti-incumbent, throw-them-all-out election. It’s a referendum on the Democratic agenda and leadership, and the Democrats will lose big if these numbers hold up through the summer.
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The hurricane gathers steam Dems. Continue to manhandle both students and our economy and you will reap what you’ve sown.
ted c on June 15, 2010 at 8:50 AM
If even NPR is admitting polling trouble for the Dems, that means it is REALLY bad news.
search4truth on June 15, 2010 at 8:51 AM
And yet the GOP isn’t even fielding an Alvin Greene type candidate to oppose the incumbent Democrat in my district…
myrenovations on June 15, 2010 at 8:53 AM
Crush this wretched witch in November and treat her minority in January like the red-haired stepchildren that they are. She’ll resign her seat in horror after being treated like a queen for the past two years.
Jaibones on June 15, 2010 at 8:53 AM
It’s fun watching rats drown as they’re leaving the sinking ship.
Lincoln Cadillac on June 15, 2010 at 8:54 AM
The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise. Period.
Akzed on June 15, 2010 at 8:54 AM
I hope the country and economy can hang on until next January. We need divided government.
bopbottle on June 15, 2010 at 8:54 AM
These should be easy pickups. Just send someone with a camera to ask each Democrat nominee if they support the Obama agenda.
Doughboy on June 15, 2010 at 8:55 AM
Heart be still…… November cannot get here soon enough!!!
huskerdiva on June 15, 2010 at 8:55 AM
But when will NPR ask if Pelosi has had implants?
(Blanch.)
profitsbeard on June 15, 2010 at 8:55 AM
This is going to be quite a disappointment (the GOP lead) to these two Bush women. Was there any doubt that the Bush gals have been LIBS all along (all the way back to Bush41′s wife Barbara)?
Whoa unto them, when they breathe their last and have to explain their support for abortion rights, when they were in a position to do something to stop/influence it.
She may have been born into a Republican family, but Barbara Bush, the 28-year-old daughter of former President George W. Bush, sounded more like a Democrat this weekend during an interview with Fox News. When “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace asked her whether she supports President Obama’s health care reform plan, she responded: “I guess I’m glad the bill was passed.” “Why do, basically, people with money have good health care and why do people who live on lower salaries not have good health care?” she said. “Health should be a right for everyone.” She is president of the Global Health Corps, an organization that champions global health equity.
PappyD61 on June 15, 2010 at 8:55 AM
From National Propaganda Radio no less. One has to wonder how they skewed the numbers and still got these results.
Beaglemom on June 15, 2010 at 8:55 AM
Yes but will she try to keep her fancy jet and new high priced office after that?
Johnnyreb on June 15, 2010 at 8:56 AM
So we are yet again fixin to replace one corrupt party with another corrupt party, it ground hog day all over again…
paulsur on June 15, 2010 at 8:56 AM
Why does the GOP betrayal surprise you?
True_King on June 15, 2010 at 8:57 AM
What little anti-incumbent fever we’ve seen on the Republican side has been convervatives challenging RINOs in the Senate. I hope McConnel takes notice. He is a fricking wimp.
doufree on June 15, 2010 at 8:58 AM
Here is the rest of the link (article).
No Republican in Congress voted for Obama’s health care legislation.
Barbara Bush’s comments come just weeks after her mother, former First Lady Laura Bush, professed views that departed sharply from the Republican majority opinion. During a Fox News interview, Laura Bush was asked to comment on Elena Kagan’s nomination to the Supreme Court.
“I think it’s great,” she responded. “I’m really glad that there will be three [women] if she’s confirmed. I like to have women on the Supreme Court.” And in an interview with CNN’s Larry King last month, she came out in favor of abortion rights and gay marriage.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl2570
PappyD61 on June 15, 2010 at 8:58 AM
Why does the GOP betrayal surprise you?
True_King on June 15, 2010 at 8:57 AM
Because I never learn. :-)
PappyD61 on June 15, 2010 at 8:59 AM
Love the photo of Pelosi, et al Reminds me of a painting I once saw of Brutus and his band of merry men plotting the death of Caesar.
Dee2008 on June 15, 2010 at 9:00 AM
The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise. Period.
Akzed on June 15, 2010 at 8:54 AM
And the GOP is different……how?
PappyD61 on June 15, 2010 at 9:01 AM
I hope this poll is true. But here in VA5, while we have a baaaad congressman (Democrat Perriello who voted for Obamacare twice, cap ‘n trade, stimulus & GIVE act–& these are just the ones I can remember), we have a 3d party candidate who claims to be the “true conservative” who wants to challenge both Perriello & the young, handsome, very conservative Republican nominee.
i could scream.
kelley in virginia on June 15, 2010 at 9:01 AM
Rumors have it that the demonrats, with their MSM lemmings, are planning on instigating the race card in a manner that is more inflammatory than it has been used in the past. We all know that the race card and class jealousy are standard operating procedures for demonrats as it is generally all they have. Be prepared for the hate to be ratcheted up to levels never before seen.
volsense on June 15, 2010 at 9:06 AM
probably about the same time that some of the hard core righties admit that their botox comments about Pelosi and the endless cankle comments and innuendos about Hillary’s orientation were inappropriate and childish.
Bradky on June 15, 2010 at 9:08 AM
I wouldn’t speak too soon. The Democrats are going to go down fighting and it won’t be a pretty sight. Beware the cornered beast.
Crux Australis on June 15, 2010 at 9:08 AM
the class hatred is already being used here in Va5thCD
the Dem: Yale educated lawyer Perriello is saying that the Hampden Sydney educated country lawyer Robert Hurt (Republican) is the “establishment” because he holds a state senate office. ’cause Perriello knows that being a Pelosi lap dog is not establishment. snark! The Dems are counting on their usual dumb voters buying into this.
kelley in virginia on June 15, 2010 at 9:11 AM
Rumors – its what for breakfast on the internet. By dinner it accepted fact.
Bradky on June 15, 2010 at 9:12 AM
::massive shudder::
What did I ever do to you?!?
Patrick S on June 15, 2010 at 9:13 AM
What is surprising at all about the Bush daughter having liberal views and nothing to support why? She is just another Ivy League airhead and as such should never be taken seriously. We are dying as a country as these same naive individuals, who do not have the life experiences to base constructive thought on, theorize about theories that have no substance in reality. When being intelligent and naive has the exact same results as being stupid and incompetent, there is no difference.
volsense on June 15, 2010 at 9:14 AM
At least the corruptocrats in the GOP are to the right of Mussolini and seemingly like this country.
Good Solid B-Plus on June 15, 2010 at 9:14 AM
Why don’t you run for this position?
Rovin on June 15, 2010 at 9:14 AM
Except, you know, Palin doesn’t actually have implants. San Fran Nan has so much Botox she can’t produce real tears anyore.
Good Solid B-Plus on June 15, 2010 at 9:16 AM
Republican primaries matter. Incumbent records matter. Neoconservative RINOs talk the talk according to the setting, whatever it takes to sound “conservative”–compared to Obama, perhaps. But when push comes to shove, they stand aside for the queerest judges’ appointments.
The last potus quintessential reason to vote Republican, along with the current campaigns, was based upon JUDGE APPOINTMENTS.
Along with the judicial branch perversion granted AND APPOINTED by neoconservative presidents beginning with Nixon and including our beloved Reagan, consider well the mushrooming federal bureaucracies established by the neoconservative GWBush, namely “No Child Left Behind” further perverting public education, and the Marxist DHS federal powers begging to be abused, erasing Constitutional Rights of citizens, now erasing national borders and the concept of citizenship.
“Electability” is always the battle cry of the neoconservative candidate and neoconservative RNC. Consider well what Republicans elected to date with every neoconservative, and break the cycle sooner than later by supporting Constitutional Conservatism while OUR Constitution remains a universal political issue.
maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 9:18 AM
Kerry
Billy Dale
Clinton
Murtha
Edwards
Frank
Reid
Jefferson
Dodd
Pelosi
Each of these are unique in the dem history…you won’t find any Republican that has done what each of these have done.
You won’t find anyone of note claiming we tortured and killed innocent people wantonly, like Kerry swore at a senate hearing, a complete and utter fabrication.
Billy Dale was fired for being competent, but Clinton’s wanted a friend to have his job, so they publicly attempted to destroy him, just so a friend could have a job.
Clinton his papers and claimed “I don’t recall”, unprecedented.
Murtha accused innocent soldiers of murder, publicaly attempting to destroy honorable lives and families just to win a few votes of liberals. You won’t find that happening among Republicans…
I don’t think I need to go further…that is what separates us from liberals.
We have our faults, but we don’t take down innocent victims and their families…oh, and don’t forget Obama and the accusation that our military men go into homes and kill innocent civilians, a common trick among the liberals.
How dare you even to suggest there is no difference…
right2bright on June 15, 2010 at 9:19 AM
Finally the numbers are starting to prove what we all instinctively knew.
rollthedice on June 15, 2010 at 9:20 AM
The BOTOX negative side effects include brain damage.
maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 9:20 AM
Either you can attack someone based on their policies and disregard the looks or you cannot. The implants stuff was just as silly and childish as the comments about Pelosi and Clinton. Whether they are true or not should have no bearing or place in the political discourse.
Bradky on June 15, 2010 at 9:21 AM
This is good news.
Of course I couldn’t tell you who is running against Ellison because no one even tries for the GOP in my district.
gophergirl on June 15, 2010 at 9:22 AM
Step 1: Repeal ObamaCare
Step 2: If the President vetoes repeal, proceed to impeachment.
WordsMatter on June 15, 2010 at 9:22 AM
The only way these numbers could change is if they get even worse for Democrats.
They have neither the expertise nor the competence to turn around the major issues facing the country, not to mention the time.
Spin isn’t going to do it and frankly, that’s all they have in their skill set.
NoDonkey on June 15, 2010 at 9:23 AM
I guess this is confusing to a liberal…
We do have people in the Republican party that have differing views, we don’t drum them out like libs do.
I guess you never heard of Scott Brown….
right2bright on June 15, 2010 at 9:24 AM
Duh. It’s poison.
maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 9:24 AM
I work for the Board of Elections and cannot run for or hold elected office while doing so.
myrenovations on June 15, 2010 at 9:24 AM
Interesting tidbit over at “The Corner”: An ABC political consultant is leaving his post to work with the SEIU.
onlineanalyst on June 15, 2010 at 9:27 AM
I’m not even really attacking her looks. You know how many 70 year old women wish they looked like Pelosi?
And I certainly don’t remember any stories about Slick Willie getting ‘Lil Willie,’ er, “enhanced.”
Good Solid B-Plus on June 15, 2010 at 9:29 AM
They ignored Katrina, too.
Kafir on June 15, 2010 at 9:30 AM
Rules Don’t Stop Pols
Good Solid B-Plus on June 15, 2010 at 9:30 AM
Negative. Elect enough reps to override the veto. Impeachment for policy differences is a wildly unrealistic fantasy.
Bradky on June 15, 2010 at 9:30 AM
What are you, a wuss???
Step 1: Impeach president, Repeal ObamaCare, roll back everything Obama has done
Daggett on June 15, 2010 at 9:31 AM
You are talking about her looks. Clinton got lots of attention because he supposedly had a birthmark on said member. But the point to you is about how female politicians of either party are treated. You went off topic with that avenue.
Bradky on June 15, 2010 at 9:34 AM
You’re right. But, I’ll admit my course remark side was really sharpened over the eight years under President Bush and the steady flow of venom leveled at him. Is it right? No. Is it childish and counterproductive? Yes. But you only have to try to control your language just a short time before someone on the other side, say to “Jail everyone who said Drill Baby Drill.” Or that Republican women should have to lift their skirts to prove they’re really women. (From a Dem female no less)
Brad, I agree but it is what it is. But when you can show me you bust on people of your own political persuasion on more liberal sites for the same behavior, I’d be pretty impressed.
hawkdriver on June 15, 2010 at 9:36 AM
Funny considering who is president…looks do have a bearing.
Palin is constantly attacked for being good looking, in fact basically that is about all liberals can attack her for. Well, except for when they make snide comments about “doing her daughter”, or her divorcing, or that trig isn’t her baby, or that she has had an abortion, or that her 14 yr. old daughter is a play toy, or they misquote her about Africa, or seeing Russia, or any other number of mis-quotes…other then that they pretty much attack her on her, looks, photo-shopped looks, Newsweek pretty much cemented that. Except for the few that have attacked her for real issues, like the names of her children…
Bradky, bradky, bradky…waddda we gonna do…Pelosi is the Michael Jackson, the Joan Rivers of Congress, when you have facial work done, and you are on TV is is distracting.
That’s like saying someone puts a tattoo of a donkey on the forehead, and we should ignore it…sorry but botox makes people look stupid and shallow.
No problem with plain looking women, or beautiful women, it’s the women who have work done and fail that is pathetic…and shallow.
We made fun of Edwards “pretty pony” hair, and of Mitt’s beautiful locks…when a candidate focuses on their looks, when they make it a subject, then it becomes fair play.
Pelosi looks like a dolt with her plastic face…one more lift and she will have nipples for dimples…
right2bright on June 15, 2010 at 9:38 AM
Love to hear how National Pretentious Radio spins this.
RobCon on June 15, 2010 at 9:39 AM
More likely he was on loan from the SEIU as an instructor.
drunyan8315 on June 15, 2010 at 9:40 AM
What do you care about how female politicians are treated? You stalk Palin threads, that’s pretty much your only angle, and now you’re going to try and pull a phony tu quoque to excuse the obsession the left currently has with Palin’s breasts (and uterus if you count Andy Sully).
Good Solid B-Plus on June 15, 2010 at 9:40 AM
All in time for November….
In the most recent report from Shadowstats.com (out last Friday), John Williams is, once again, forecasting a big dive coming soon in the economy.
Williams says, “I would describe the shape of this recession/depression as one tracing out the path of an inept skier trying out a ski jump: sharp decline, then some leveling out with a brief up-blip, followed by a renewed plunge with the potential for an unexpectedly disastrous landing.”
Once this second decline starts, look out…it will start showing up in the June and July numbers when all of those great census jobs start disapearing and the public non-producing state level goverment workers layoffs begin…
November will be a bloodbath..
PatriotRider on June 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM
Yeah PappyD I was shocked that she spouted the socialized medicine rationale VERBATIM! No free market training for her at Yale! I had a different thought though and that is that you can’t go to an IVY league school surrounded by progressive faculty and students in your 20′s like McCain’s daughter (Art History BS, Columbia) and not come out with the socialist answers to today’s problems. These girls have fallen into the liberal elite class cocktail party trap. They see problems from their priviledged possition and see social justice as the answer instead of looking at economic freedom providing the maximum lifestyle for the maximum number of people (including the poorest quartile with color TV’s and Medicare)
Conan on June 15, 2010 at 9:48 AM
Lol… I stand corrected.
WordsMatter on June 15, 2010 at 9:50 AM
And that’s the point, it is bad when aimed at their liberals, but not when aimed at conservatives…the difference in this is that Palin is just naturally good looking, Pelosi is manufactured.
To a liberal, they don’t discern, being good looking is fair game for attacking, just as much as someone who has altered their looks, actually so vain that they are poisoning their body, so as to look better. They can’t see a difference.
No more then they can see the difference in a congressman grabbing a kid doing an interview, or a SEIU thug kicking a spectator, and someone yelling at a Tea Party, they think they are one in the same.
I won’t give them a pass…Pelosi looks ridiculous, while supposedly running the country, she is pumping her forehead full of poison. And when she laughs or smiles, their is no “face”, just tight skin…we are visual animals, and it is a put off. We have eyes as one of our senses, and we can see when something is “off”, our of kilter, when they are trying to lie, deceive, dodge, our eyes are more valuable then most any other sense…and when someone artificially tries to change their looks, we are perceptive enough to see it as a gambit.
Tell me when you are flying, and you see a “house”, and that house isn’t quite “right”, yet you don’t know what is different, just that it needs a second look…or a road that is not where it should be…our eyes tells us first…
right2bright on June 15, 2010 at 9:50 AM
Hope for Change.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM
Well put. Not to mention the phrase “educated beyond one’s intelligence.”
disa on June 15, 2010 at 9:54 AM
Yes, but you forget that the Obama agenda that is so unpopular was a case of entrapment by the Republicans. We need to find out which Pubs goaded the Crats into voting for such a measure, and punish them at the polls. Count on MSNBC for the real facts.
paul1149 on June 15, 2010 at 10:04 AM
I won’t disagree. I really do try these days though to keep comments on looks out of it. We all slip into it though. Like I said, these days I really just need to hear only a little bit more venom directed at President Bush and I almost immediately and instictively counter-attack. It-is-that-it-is. And I agree with you, in my heart I believe “what it is”, is due in a large part to reacting to the liberal behavior. They say the most vile things.
hawkdriver on June 15, 2010 at 10:05 AM
This is a great poll in that it shows “swing districts” instead of the gaudy numbers that democrats can put up in liberal strongholds. This is what I suspected when reading the GOP was slightly ahead in the generic poll. I knew those moving voters were from swing districts primarily and that the 2006 and 2008 GOP held seats where the voters WILL swing GOP in the face of democrats showing socialist, authoritarian colors.. We could see as similiar congress to 2004 in party designation by district. The democrats failed the tryout voters gave them on their lies and deceptions.
Conan on June 15, 2010 at 10:17 AM
Yep. And call me crazy, but I’m throwing in with Dick Morris…I think the Senate might be within reach. A long shot, perhaps, but within reach.
Grace_is_sufficient on June 15, 2010 at 10:18 AM
A vote for a Democrat is a vote for a Communist. Pound that message home until November. The party of Wilson/Marx must die………
adamsmith on June 15, 2010 at 10:20 AM
I think it’s sounding very realistic.
hawkdriver on June 15, 2010 at 10:27 AM
It’s anti-Obama fever. The Obama NAME still gets high forties approval, but Obama the MAN is in the toilet.
Did you ever read Brave New World? Propaganda is just like any other form of advertising; it can affect the perception of the BRAND, but not the PRODUCT itself.
That’s why Obama has a positive name response but heavily negative “coat tails,” whereas someone like Sarah Palin is precisely the opposite. Some of the more fuzzy-headed among us hear the name Barack
HusseinObama, and still have a residual warm glowy rabidly-anti-racist feeling inside. They hear the name Sarah Palin, and they are conditioned to respond as if they’d been stuck with an electric cattle prod. But when those two people endorse candidates, the results are the opposite of what you’d expect from looking at the name response polls.Mark my words: by this November, incumbent Democrats who voted with Obama 100% of the time, and for over a year appended every mention of him with “…hallowed be His name,” will be trying to distance themselves from Obama’s policies just as desperately as post-WW2 Nazis disclaimed their affiliation with their own Socialist “fundamental transformation.”
And, once again, many of them will succeed.
logis on June 15, 2010 at 10:33 AM
A Republican controlled House will need to send a repeal of Obamacare bill to the Senate every month. Make the b*%^ards reject it in vote after vote. Then conservatives will retake the Senate.
I also like the idea of sending college students out with cameras to every Democrat member of Congress and asking if they support the Obama agenda.
doufree on June 15, 2010 at 10:33 AM
Thanks hawk, the point I was not clear on is that our eyes do tell us a lot.
Attacking natural beauty is strange, but attacking something that is “out of step”, that is not of the norm, is not a bad thing.
You, among all of us, are trained to notice oddities, things not in place.
So when someone attacks Pelosi’s botox, it makes sense, it is an oddity, out of place, something not right…therefore attention is drawn to it. And we know it is self inflicted, by her choice to do this strange ritual.
Flamboyant dress, twitches, ticks, all of these things we notice, and when something is “unusual” we comment.
Unusual beauty is commented, either snarky (jealous), or admiring…and Pelosi with botox is unusual, so she gets comments.
Bradky was trying to say it doesn’t matter, but one of your most important senses (eyesight) does matter…your life, in your job, depends on how astute you are to your surrounding, things out of place can spell trouble…so when you look at a face that is “out of place” your instincts are triggered.
We are that way, Edwards obsession with his hair is a perfect example.
right2bright on June 15, 2010 at 10:34 AM
ot
Gen. David Petraeus appeared to have passed out during a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing Tuesday, recovering enough to be escorted from the room.
The head of Central Command was in the midst of a dialogue with Arizona Sen. John McCain when he slumped over the witness table.
FOX NEWS
maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM
You obviously have no idea what “Neo-Conservatism” is or means.
It has to do with foreign policy and national security and defense and almost nothing to do with domestic policy, like judges.
Go and read the writings of William Kristol and Norman Podhoretz.
The nation is pretty happy with Bush’s conservative judicial appointments of Alito and Roberts.
Jenfidel on June 15, 2010 at 10:51 AM
/McCain bored the exhausted Petraeus into a faint?
Seriously, take care, General, and drink more water.
maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Attacking the family members of President Bush 41 and 43 is pretty low, if you ask me!These ladies are entitled to their opinion and did not set policy.
I’m getting more than a little tired of your hatred for the Bushes that is present in almost every post of yours on HA no matter the subject and by consequence, all Republicans, which is based on your skewed view of things that isn’t even fact or reality based.
Jenfidel on June 15, 2010 at 10:55 AM
What does this have to do with McCain?
Petraeus is being treated for prostate cancer, isn’t he?
Jenfidel on June 15, 2010 at 10:56 AM
Wasn’t the Republican party all washed up just a few months ago? Wasn’t the demise of the party predicted and dems would rule from now on, just a few months ago?
Wasn’t the GOP on it’s last leg, barely standing, and basically non-existent, and no way to recover?
Wasn’t that just a few months ago, the prediction by the MSM?
right2bright on June 15, 2010 at 11:07 AM
Amen to that r2b. That anybody (of any political persuasion) who was even half-way sentient over the least year and a half and who witnessed the instantaneous unleashing of all the nutty legislation undermining the capitalist foundations of our economy which had been held back in committee when Republican majorities held the chairmanships & the White House, who has observed the recent feckless & irresponsible misdirection of a whacked-out dem foreign policy calculated to alienate our allies, fruitlessly curry favor with islamofascists bent on the establishment of a global caliphate through force & prostrate the US to the whims of bloodthirsty tyrants, who’s seen the national debt spiral past GDP, & watched the repeal of the Mexico City policy on the very day BHO acceded to the oval office, and on & on & on – yet can STILL say with a straight face that ‘there is no difference’ between the two parties is either insane or is lying to demoralize the opposition and keep the dems in power.
And anyone who uses the ditzy comments of the housewife or the 28 year old daughter of a former politician as ‘proof’ of the true hidden platform of that retired politician’s party isn’t exactly being honest with themselves or us either.
Republicans are by no means perfect in anybody’s eyes (and NO party based on the democratic consensus of millions of people spread across thousands of miles could possibly be perfectly pure anywhere outside some childish fantasy), but one thing they cannot be accused of being is “the same” as democrats.
leilani on June 15, 2010 at 11:09 AM
It’s going to be very bad for the Dems in November….
This means we are upping our projection of GOP House gains to 78 seats
roux on June 15, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Thank you, leilani!
I couldn’t say it any better!
Jenfidel on June 15, 2010 at 11:13 AM
Buffet Jenfidel
You fail to get beyond the initial “mission statement” of neoconservatism to judge those politicians by their complete oeuvre. We’ve been through these motions previously, you stuck on the writings of William Kristol and norman Podhoretz, and I reminding you, that is where my research on neoconservatism began. You suffer from selective and short term memory, stuck within research limited to an initial stab wherein you found your own comfort zone.
You bring up GWB choices, neglecting to note his first SCOTUS nominee, Harriet Myers.
As I wrote, NIXON (via FORD, Stevens “the Chief Justice of the Liberal Supreme Court”) and REAGAN (O’Conner AND Kennedy) SCOTUS nominees in the court (include GHWB Souter gone liberal) have negated what is termed constructionist Constitutional conservatism.
Were you to follow Ace of Spades HQ, you’d know that incumbent Republicans in Congress promoted the queerest sexually sadistic judge THIS MONTH whose court record exonerates rapists and sexual deviant murderers because those crimes are not criminal, being sexually motivated.
The neoconservative platform is the old Democratic Party of JFK platform, which appeals to “patriotic” voters. But one need look no further than McCain to see what the neoconservative political powers do to abuse and erase the constitutional balance of powers and Bill of Rights.
It is YOU, Jenfidel, who know little or nothing of neoconservatism. By their fruits will ye know them: Department of Homeland Security.
maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 11:18 AM
Jenfidel on June 15, 2010 at 10:56 AM
Reading if fundamental.
Read the link.
Note well the /sarc that you intentionally omitted.
maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 11:21 AM
A vote for a Democrat is a vote for a Communist. Pound that message home until November. The party of Wilson/Marx must die………
adamsmith on June 15, 2010 at 10:20 AM
maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 11:23 AM
There has never been an initial “mission statement” of Neo-Conservative thought stating this or anything like it.
There is no Neo-Con “mission statement” at all.
“Stab?”
Ouch.
Neo-Conservative thought begins and ends with Podhoretz and Kristol.
There was nothing wrong with Myers.
What are you talking about???
Republican Presidents, for the most part, try to appoint strict constructivist judges.
That they may fail to do so, because the appointee hides their own more Liberal ideology, can’t really be their fault, unlike Democrats like Obama and Clinton who purposefully pick “living Constitutionalists” who are Progressive activists.
I do read Ace.
Why would you assume I don’t?
Being in the minority in Congress, the GOP can’t do much right now.
That being said, I don’t believe you.
No. No. And no.
Neo-Conservatism has nothing to do with party platforms.
It’s about American Exceptionalism and military strength in foreign policy and national security and defense policy in regards to other nations.
McCain was a Paleo-Con.
He wasn’t close to being a Neo-Conservative or much of a conservative at all, or even a Republican.
DHS has absolutely nothing to do with Neo-Conservatism or it with the DHS.
DHS was seen as the best solution to national defense in response to the 9/11 attacks.
While they haven’t covered themselves in glory, I see no egregious behavior on their part either.
Jenfidel on June 15, 2010 at 11:30 AM
All well and good. But what are Republicans doing to recruit Governor Christie like Conservatives into the ranks for House, Senate and Presidential elections?
Capitalizing on the failure and populist rejection of the Democratic party platform means supplanting the Democratic incumbents with truly Conservative candidates. I don’t see an organized, professional effort to ensure that this is happening. Is it just me or is this effort really not taking place?
watson007 on June 15, 2010 at 11:31 AM
That really is an excellent picture of Pelosi.
Fat Jolly Penguin on June 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM
“Reading if fundamental,” indeed!
It takes a real partisan idiot to attribute Petraeus’s fainting spell to McCain’s personality.
Jenfidel on June 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM
It’s just you.
There is an effort going on all over the country, at every level of government, to put conservatives in office.
Jenfidel on June 15, 2010 at 11:35 AM
She may have been born into a Republican family, but Barbara Bush, the 28-year-old daughter of former President George W. Bush, sounded more like a Democrat this weekend during an interview with Fox News. When “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace asked her whether she supports President Obama’s health care reform plan, she responded: “I guess I’m glad the bill was passed.” “Why do, basically, people with money have good health care and why do people who live on lower salaries not have good health care?” she said. “Health should be a right for everyone.” She is president of the Global Health Corps, an organization that champions global health equity.
PappyD61 on June 15, 2010 at 8:55 AM
I’m also a ‘Barb’-albeit one that’s almost 12 years her senior-and my fellow ‘foreign or strange’-like many members of Generation WHIIIINE-doesn’t get it.
She won’t be affect by Zero care no matter what. My husband works for a small switching railroad….one that I worry may end up cutting our insurance because with all the extra government regulation they can’t afford it anymore. Of course libs never have a problem spending what rightfully belongs to others.
annoyinglittletwerp on June 15, 2010 at 11:48 AM
As long as the Democrats are beholden to and espouse the hardline socialist agenda, I’m committed to the destruction of the democratic party. We don’t need to have a diametrically opposed viewpoint to a representative republic being in a position of power. As long as there is a U.S.A., we need to stand for the principles that this country was created for.
Tennman on June 15, 2010 at 11:49 AM
Great…but…if folks elect RINOs or less than conservative Republicans, it won’t matter much.
The Socialist programs must be done away with-not merely prevented from propagating for x number of years until the Socialists take power again and take up from where they left off. That’s what they’ve been doing and that’s how we’ve gotten into this mess.
These GOP wins seem to only be speed bumps for the advance of Marxism if you look at history.
Dr. ZhivBlago on June 15, 2010 at 12:37 PM
Your lack of intelligence is matched by your lack of humor.
maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM
11:34 AM
“a real partisan” as applied to an independent thinker, to a registered Republican, to a Constitutional Conservative?
Jenfidel, you should refrain from using the “idiot” label except to acknowledge your own faults.
maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 3:22 PM
Perhaps you really are that ignorant.
GWHB and GWB are neoconservatives.
maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 3:27 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought I heard the Republican Party died and it would never be able to come back? Pretty sure I heard that within the last 2 years or so.
ButterflyDragon on June 15, 2010 at 3:32 PM
I’m not going to try to spend a lot of time persuading you that to be moderate automatically makes me a DU/Huffpo charter member. I go to this site because there are some who are able to engage in a dialog. Huffpo has thousands of comments per post and it would be a waste of time – besides why would I want to help the far left pick a more effective strategy.
My fondest wish is for a GOP that is unified but in order to do that the conservatives need to understand that while they frame the debate and the planks, it is their relationship with the moderates that forms the workable policies to go forward with.
In my opinion, if conservatives are not willing to avoid the comments on looks versus policy they are following a bad strategy.
Bradky on June 15, 2010 at 4:32 PM
Yes, they’re Neo-Conservatives in foreign policy, national security and defense, but it has NOTHING to do with domestic policies or social conservatism.
How many times do you have to be told this???
(Because YOU really are that ignorant.)
Jenfidel on June 15, 2010 at 4:58 PM
If you were any kind of thinker, you wouldn’t be happy with your own lack thereof when it comes to your understanding and knowledge of Neo-Conservatism.
I know because I am a Neo-Conservative.
You just abuse the word “neo-conservative” to mean some “Bushie” bugaboo you want to continue to demonize with innuendo and smears.
Can we infer that you’re a Paultard, because they specialize in this?
Jenfidel on June 15, 2010 at 5:03 PM
I wish Sebelius would ditch that freaky dress.
disa on June 15, 2010 at 11:12 PM