James Clyburn: Alvin Greene might have won because of magnets or something

posted at 6:45 pm on June 15, 2010 by Allahpundit

Alternate headline: “Greene not the only South Carolina pol who appears to be suffering from a head injury.” Clyburn’s been whining about “America’s candidate” for a full week now but not until this morning did he put the finishing touches on his conspiracy theory: Evidently, SC used electronic voting machines, which could have been tampered with by hackers or, um, magnets or something. Strangely, Greene’s senate race appears to have been the only one affected by this nefarious plot, and as even lefties like Jon Stewart acknowledge, DeMint will inevitably crush anyone the Democrats put in front of him in November, leaving the motive for rigging the vote unclear. (The latest Rasmussen poll has DeMint up by 37 points over Greene, which, all things considered, is surprisingly close.) It falls to Dave Weigel to acknowledge the elephant in the room: What if Greene just … won?

Or, per the LA Times’s pet theory, what if South Carolinians are just neo-confederate racists who, er, decided to vote for a black candidate over a white one?

The comments of a few backward politicians [e.g., Jake Knotts calling Nikki Haley a "raghead"] obviously don’t reflect the attitudes of an entire state, but it’s clear that old prejudices are slow to fade in swathes of South Carolina. In this kind of poisonous political atmosphere, it would hardly be surprising if some black voters put racial identity ahead of a candidate’s qualifications. Nor would we be shocked if it turned out that some conservative white voters were trying embarrass the black political establishment by gaming the Democratic contest. Neither camp has much to be proud of, and if nothing else, the travesty of Greene’s election shows that some interracial bridge building is overdue in the Palmetto State.

So, in some sort of Klan version of Operation Chaos, the racist white establishment turned out en masse for a terrible black candidate … whom no one knew was terrible, because no one had heard of him until after the vote was taken. Insane — and yet, still more compelling than Clyburn’s theory!

Two clips, the first of Clyburn and the second of Stewart laying into Democrats for trying to blame the GOP for their mess. (Really!) I hate to admit it, but the “Greene Mile” joke had me laughing. Click the image to watch.



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Magnets? Who is this…Jack O’Neill or something?

powerpro on June 15, 2010 at 6:48 PM

He should know , Clyburn is an expert at manipulting votes…

the_nile on June 15, 2010 at 6:48 PM

But for the obsenity charge, this would be the perfect political story … ever.

YYZ on June 15, 2010 at 6:49 PM

So I guess we’ve been caught. This was just a dry run for November when we use the magnets to steal victory from Reid, Boxer and Sestak.

dirtseller on June 15, 2010 at 6:50 PM

Magnets?
.
What are the odds James Clyburn also believes in numerology?

Arbalest on June 15, 2010 at 6:50 PM

/Magnetic personality? Oooph

maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 6:51 PM

Did Clyburn lose his tin foil hat or something?

Lance Murdock on June 15, 2010 at 6:51 PM

Some lame group is asking SC Attorney General, Henry McMaster (who just endorssed Nikki Haley), to investigate Alvin Greene’s election. Democrats are always concerned about “fraud-free elections” when their candidate doesn’t win.

Washington, D.C. (WLTX) — In the latest turn of events surrounding Alvin Greene’s run for U.S. Senate, a political action group has asked South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster to investigate Greene’s campaign.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington also say that Greene failed to file mandatory disclosure reports before the election. CREW also filed complaints against Gregory Brown, Ben Frasier and Brian Doyle, with their campaign committees after the June 8, 2010 primary. According to CREW, the men’s actions are a violation of the Federal Election Campaign Act.

The group’s Executive Director Melanie Sloan said in a Tuesday news release to News19, “The people of South Carolina have a right to fair, transparent and fraud-free elections. Paying candidates to run for office and concealing the sources of campaign funds undermines the integrity of the electoral process and threatens our democracy.”

SouthernGent on June 15, 2010 at 6:51 PM

O.k……. The whole Alvin Greene thing is starting to make sense now.

ThePrez on June 15, 2010 at 6:51 PM

Greene or not, eliminate computer voting machines.

maverick muse on June 15, 2010 at 6:52 PM

Was Uri Geller in South Carolina on election day by any chance?

Mark1971 on June 15, 2010 at 6:53 PM

Yeah, they were “stupid” magnets and they really, really work! Clyburn devours them like they were M&Ms.

ya2daup on June 15, 2010 at 6:54 PM

If it was magnets, he is obviously sticking them on the wrong ends and pushing people away.

upinak on June 15, 2010 at 6:55 PM

Don’t matter how many layers you got in that tinfoil cap, them white devils will always find a way through.

Doorgunner on June 15, 2010 at 6:55 PM

My theory is that, even among people who force themselves to do their civic duty and vote, politicians are held in such low esteem that they probably did just vote for the first name or someone whose name sounded good. What difference does it really make?

JavelinaBomb on June 15, 2010 at 6:56 PM

He was on local radio yesterday spouting the same drivel. While I did attend one of SC’s finer institutions of higher education, I also got out.

c.u.shoeless on June 15, 2010 at 6:56 PM

OT and a LOL moment. Check drudge. BP = Barack Petroleum. heh

upinak on June 15, 2010 at 6:56 PM

(The latest Rasmussen poll has DeMint up by 37 points over Greene, which, all things considered, is surprisingly close.)

HAHA! I actually laughed at that.

JamesLee on June 15, 2010 at 6:57 PM

I don’t know why he doesn’t believe that lots of voters are just recklessly ignorant when it comes to voting. It’s not anymore complicated an issue than that. They voted for him, didn’t they?

RBMN on June 15, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Stewart is quickly becoming worth watching on a regular basis.

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2010 at 6:58 PM

This seems like a natural conclusion of race based politics. Now I would’ve expected it to be happen somewhere more more downticket, rather than in a race of this magnitude, but I’m not really that surprised. There has been a long and concerted effort to dumb down the voters from the left. How is it surprising that this will be a product of that from time to time?

And I feel bad for the candidate in all this, because he doesn’t seem to have a clue.

stldave on June 15, 2010 at 6:58 PM

Magnets!

David Shane on June 15, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Hey, maybe he won because he got the most votes ….

tarpon on June 15, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Next thing you know, Clyburn will accusing people of yelling racial epitaphs at him without any evidence.

Maxpower on June 15, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Someone needs to photoshop Clyburn into Juggalo makeup and caption it “Magnets – How do they work?”

teke184 on June 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM

I have a sinking feeling that due to the novelty of the race, Alvin Greene is going to somehow win where a more traditional Democrat opponent would be absolutely clobbered by DeMint.

Although on second thought, that would be ridiculously awesome!

NukeRidingCowboy on June 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM

So, they’re stealing their conspiracy theories from South Park now, eh?

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103455/

Sir Corky on June 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM

The magnets acted stupidly…..

retiredeagle on June 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Clyburn may be on to something here. I also heard they played some Al Green tunes at Rush’s wedding. Hmmmm.

TXUS on June 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Magnets?? how do they work?

V-rod on June 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM

OT and a LOL moment. Check drudge. BP = Barack Petroleum. heh

upinak on June 15, 2010 at 6:56 PM

Did you read the link, all Oil ceo:s positive to cap and tax.
Gangster rule.

the_nile on June 15, 2010 at 7:04 PM

Is it too much to blame the local Democrat party which was too lazy to even find a semi-credible placeholder to run against DeMint?

rob verdi on June 15, 2010 at 7:04 PM

It is my sincere hope that the good people of South Carolina see James “I See Elephant Dung” Clyburn for the certified nut he really is.

And then come next election, retire him.

pilamaye on June 15, 2010 at 7:04 PM

Magnets? Who is this…Jack O’Neill or something?

powerpro on June 15, 2010 at 6:48 PM

Just make sure you spell it right. There’s another one with only one L, but he’s got no sense of humor.

And I always did think that Obama would have made a fine goa’uld.

malclave on June 15, 2010 at 7:05 PM

I really do not understand the problem here. The Ds are all upset by an election that put somebody in that”nobody knew”,,hell,,this guy had a published military and felony record. “We” just elected a “president” with no published/public record,,,,what is the problem here.

retiredeagle on June 15, 2010 at 7:05 PM

The Greene Mile got me too.

Ian on June 15, 2010 at 7:07 PM

“Something went wrong with these machines,” Clyburn said. “They were very unreliable,” he added.

“All you need is a magnet” to compromise the machines, Rep. Clyburn said.
=======================================================
So,a Democrat wins,and another Liberal is b*tchin about
a machine malfunction,interesting……

WHERE AND THE SAM H*LL WAS Clyburn when Hopey won!!!!!

canopfor on June 15, 2010 at 7:08 PM

Seriously though, I heard this Greene gentleman is a multi-decorated Air Force Vet. It’s somehow painful to hear the Dems denigrate this patriot, even if he isn’t the most well spoken man.

But it has to be said that in a party that boasts Barbara Boxer and Patty Murray, this guy wouldn’t even be the least intelligent Democrat in the Senate.

dirtseller on June 15, 2010 at 7:08 PM

1984

canopfor on June 15, 2010 at 7:08 PM

Did you read the link, all Oil ceo:s positive to cap and tax.
Gangster rule.

the_nile on June 15, 2010 at 7:04 PM

afterwards I read it as there was no link there. Now I am beyond P.O.ed.

upinak on June 15, 2010 at 7:10 PM

But it has to be said that in a party that boasts Barbara Boxer and Patty Murray, this guy wouldn’t even be the least intelligent Democrat in the Senate.

dirtseller on June 15, 2010 at 7:08 PM

Expand it to the House and you can throw Sheila Jackson-Lee and Hank Johnson in there, too. Johnson made the “If we send more troops to Guam, the island will tip over” comment while Jackson-Lee was positive that NASA had landed men on Mars in 1969.

teke184 on June 15, 2010 at 7:10 PM

Don’t forget about Maxine Waters now.

stldave on June 15, 2010 at 7:12 PM

OT and a LOL moment. Check drudge. BP = Barack Petroleum. heh

upinak on June 15, 2010 at 6:56 PM

That was funny. But not as funny as the story about how Al Gore has been boinking Larry David’s ex-wife for the past two years.

Doorgunner on June 15, 2010 at 7:12 PM

..they’ve finally done it..they have elected representatives who are dumber than the average of the American public.

The War Planner on June 15, 2010 at 7:17 PM

OT and a LOL moment. Check drudge. BP = Barack Petroleum. heh

upinak on June 15, 2010 at 6:56 PM

upinak: ” BarackOilApocalypse”!!:)

canopfor on June 15, 2010 at 7:17 PM

Someone should tell Clyburn that black holes act like a big giant magnet…

Seven Percent Solution on June 15, 2010 at 7:20 PM

These democrat clowns keep me laughing so hard that I can hardly catch my breath. They can make their case with a straight face and must believe that we are as clueless as they are. I can’t stand it any longer….boot’em all!

joe btfsplk on June 15, 2010 at 7:28 PM

Someone should photoshop Clyburn with a biga$$ magnet around his neck ( like Flavaflave)

macncheez on June 15, 2010 at 7:31 PM

I think Greene should next run for Clyburn’s seat. He could ‘spit’ some Wrath of Khan dialogue at him:

“No. No, you can’t get away. From hell’s heart, I stab at thee. For hate’s sake, I spit my last breath at thee.”

GnuBreed on June 15, 2010 at 7:34 PM

What is in the water in SC? The strangest politco stories in that state in the last year.

ConservativePartyNow on June 15, 2010 at 7:36 PM

trying embarrass the black political establishment

Forget Alvin Greene, people of South Carolina should be embarassed that they elected Clyburn.

Scrappy on June 15, 2010 at 7:42 PM

I loved the report that at least one voter though he was “Al Green” the R & B singer of “Lean On Me,” “How Can You Mend A Broken Heart,” and “Sha La La” etc.
I always loved the “comb” sound in “Sha La La”

J_Crater on June 15, 2010 at 7:43 PM

MAGNETS????

I expect the International Order of Shithouse Rats to file a class-action lawsuit forbidding Clyburn being referred to as “crazy as a shithouse rat“. It is simply not fair to the shithouse rats!!

Justrand on June 15, 2010 at 7:49 PM

The republicans had tightly contested primaries for a shitload of stuff – Governor, Lt. Gov., AG, Treasurer, two open republican house seats plus a bunch of challengers to Inglis. There were few races on the Dem side that were contested at all, and I think Greene’s 61-39 victory was the closest margin. It’s insane that any conservative would give up their vote in all those races just so they could cast their vote for Greene.

BuzzCrutcher on June 15, 2010 at 7:54 PM

The Congressman doth protest too much.

So I have to ask myself why? First Alvin Greene was a Republican plant, then it was Elephant dung, now it’s the voting machines.

Clyburn’s position as explained to Willie Geist on MSNBC Morning Joe is it’s plausible some group paid Greene to run and then tampered with the voting machines.

Why does James Clyburn believe so strongly unnamed conspirators stole the SC Democrat primary for US Senate and foisted Alvin Greene as a stooge on the peeps of the Gamecock state?

Why? Why? Why?

I’ve got it: The SC Primary was a dry-run test of the voting machine fraud that will be used to steal the 2012 election from Barack Obama.

Yep the thinking conspiracy theorist might say Jim Clyburn is testing the waters to see if he can get his peeps to believe the story line.

The man’s not crazy he’s just insane so I figure it’s less than 24 hours before someone floats this biscuit of a conspiracy theory.

But if you really wanna know the truth of the matter, the ONLY thing the SC primary fiasco proves is that DemocRats can STEAL elections from themselves…

bobnox on June 15, 2010 at 7:58 PM

If California “conservatives” were too stupid and/or lazy to Google Abel Maldonado, then I suspect the same in this case.

The Ugly American on June 15, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Greens win has elephant dung on it? that sucks I guess, but now I know what donkey shit in a suit looks like.

Clyburn thinks that Republican voters are either rich as hell, or dumb as dirt. I think this Green victory sheds light on the Democrat voter, and Clyburn doesn’t want the exposure. Green ran, Green won, you, Democrat party own it.
I usually don’t agree with John Stewart, but he was spot on! You can’t blame Republicans for idiots within your own party.

The real shame here is that Green is a window looking into how the uninformed American thinks, and votes. Unless we change that, we’re done, and left loves people that are uninformed. They will continue their grasp of power with the help of weak minds.

M-14 2go on June 15, 2010 at 7:58 PM

“Something went wrong with these machines,” Clyburn said. “They were very unreliable,” he added.

“All you need is a magnet” to compromise the machines, Rep. Clyburn said.

(Unsaid by Clyburn) “I know my party tried unsuccessfully to do that thing you do with magnets in Ohio.”

onlineanalyst on June 15, 2010 at 8:05 PM

Evidently, SC used electronic voting machines, which could have been tampered with by hackers or, um, magnets or something.

This just in….Rep. Clyburn claims SC voting machines spit on him, and called him the “n” word. Obama vows to appoint voting machine czar to investigate.

xblade on June 15, 2010 at 8:52 PM

Rep. Clyburn
Who would have a motive? “The motive could very well be to embarass the Democratic party.

Trust me you have succeeded to embarrass the Democratic Party by a factor of 1000!
Please do the honorable thing.
Provide evidence of this crime immediately or resign from office today!

DSchoen on June 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM

Gov. Aaron A. Aardvark. Heh. Stewart did a nice job on this.

di butler on June 15, 2010 at 8:55 PM

Greene kind of reminds me of Bubba Blue from “Forrest Gump.” I wonder if he likes shrimp?

“Anyway, like I was sayin’, shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey’s uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There’s pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that’s about it.”

Django on June 15, 2010 at 9:05 PM

I think it’s time for another amendment to the Constitution… an intelligence test. Retroactive too. That should get rid of about half of the incumbents. It would also, unfortunately, or fortunately, keep Mr. Greene out too.

sadatoni on June 15, 2010 at 9:07 PM

Clyburn makes Greene look like a Rhodes scholar.

Mason on June 15, 2010 at 9:57 PM

As “mentally challenged” as Greene is, there are so many pols in Congress already who have similarly shown their lack of knowledge, intelligence, and sanity, that I think his relative taciturnity would be a net positive for the Senate, if he were replacing somebody like Chuck Schumer.

That’s a counterfactual, of course, as he’s not going to win against DeMint.

Dammit, can’t the Democrats thank themselves for money not wasted on a lost race and lose graciously? What a bunch of whiners.

meep on June 15, 2010 at 10:04 PM

Forget Alvin Greene, people of South Carolina should be embarassed that they elected Clyburn.

Scrappy on June 15, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Did they use the same hacker-friendly electronic voting machines to elect Clyburn? All this talk of election voting fraud reminds me that Clyburn voted to continue funding for ACORN.

TN Mom on June 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM

As I’ve said before, if he were running for the House in a gerrymandered district, he wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow.

The embarrassment that the Democrat Party is feeling is because now the general public gets to see the sort of crap candidates they’ve been foisting on minority districts for decades.

You can’t tell me Mr. Greene has anything in the crazy or stupid categories over Ms. Jackson-Lee or Cynthia McKinney or Major Owens or Bobby Rush or, apparently, James Clyburn.

notropis on June 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM

“Lean On Me”

J_Crater on June 15, 2010 at 7:43 PM

“Lean On Me” was Bill Withers. Al Green had “Call Me.”

Both great singers; both great songs; neither one running for the Senate, as far as I know.

notropis on June 15, 2010 at 10:17 PM

Magnets?

Next thing you know, some other Democrat will be worried about Guam tipping over.

Oh, wait…

Bigfoot on June 15, 2010 at 10:39 PM

Was it on 538 that it was pointed out that the losing candidate mainly campaigned through robocalls and email? Maybe people voted AGAINST the spammer.

HotWeaver on June 15, 2010 at 10:40 PM

Gotta love Jim Clyburn. You don’t have to ambush him or trick him into saying something stupid and/or revealing, just let him talk!
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Because, you know, there was so much money to be made by grabbing the Democratic nomination to run against DeMint that . . . oh, wait, no there wasn’t and isn’t. But now DeMint has an easy reelection . . . oh, wait, no, he already had an easy reelection (as one of the most popular conservatives in the country, the most popular elected official in SC right now, a leading Republican in a Republican state in a Republican year, etc.). So, WHAT could anyone possibly gain by putting up Greene to run?

Adjoran on June 16, 2010 at 12:17 AM

Nor would we be shocked if it turned out that some conservative white voters were trying embarrass the black political establishment by gaming the Democratic contest.

Could be. That’s why we got Obama elected. So we’ll never have another democrat, ever again.

Let’s hope our plan succeeds.

Squiggy on June 16, 2010 at 1:56 PM