Endaround: UN may order international probe of Israel’s flotilla raid despite U.S. veto

posted at 10:29 pm on June 15, 2010 by Allahpundit

I got a tip last night from a source on the Israeli side that this story at Foreign Policy accurately describes how the White House is trying to manage the flotilla investigation. The plan was to pressure Israel into starting its own probe ASAP, complete with international members, before momentum built at the Security Council for an international UN-led probe that would inevitably railroad the IDF. In fact, according to Foreign Policy, that may have been the point of the leak heard ’round the blogosphere to Bill Kristol last week — to scare the Israelis into thinking the U.S. would join in supporting an international probe if they didn’t get it in gear.

Just one problem with the plan. Apparently, so intent is the UN on its very own show trial that they’re searching for ways to do it whether the U.S. likes it or not.

A spokesman for United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said Tuesday that the secretary general remains “hopeful” that the world body will approve an international inquiry into the Gaza flotilla incident — on top of Israel’s own domestic investigation — after it received overwhelming support in a closed Security Council meeting Tuesday…

A diplomat with one Security Council member country said that 14 of 15 nations had expressed support for some form of panel established by the secretary general — rather than by a Security Council vote, which the United States could block — to investigate the deaths on a Turkish ship bound for Gaza. The U.S. was the sole nation not to support the measure in the closed session, the source said…

The U.S. position on the panel — amid intense support for it among U.N. members — has been to wait and see what Ban proposes.

“As we always do, we will work hard to make sure that Israel is not treated unfairly at the U.N.,” a U.S. official said.

If the U.S. acquiesces in an international probe after leaning on the Israelis to start one of their own so quickly, I don’t know where that’ll leave relations between the two countries. And if we’ve come to a point where the UN levers of power have been wholly captured by Islamist demagogues like Erdogan, without even a semi-functional American check on international scapegoating of Tel Aviv, then Israel’s well and truly finished diplomatically. Exit question via Jennifer Rubin: Is this a Barack Obama/James Jones failure of will?


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Shameful.

myrenovations on June 15, 2010 at 10:33 PM

“Oh well, I tried. Guess we just need to put America under the control of the U.N.”

-PBHO

Bishop on June 15, 2010 at 10:33 PM

Israel was doomed the day Obama took office.

AUINSC on June 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM

We already know what happened and why. The Turks and Hamas set a trap, and Israel fell into it.

The only thing left is who gets to write the historical account, and which version will be printed in the newspaper of record (NYT).

Skandia Recluse on June 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM

Remind me again: why are we paying to let these idiots grandstand and smear our allies? Maybe it’s time to think about pulling the plug on our UN funding.

Inkblots on June 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Seriously, can anyone give an honest argument against getting the hell out of that sorry outfit? Or at least moving their HQ the hell out of this country???

I seems to me right now all we get out of it is a big fu#$ing bill every year.

BigWyo on June 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Turn off the money…

… end all foreign aid immediately.

Watch what happens…

Seven Percent Solution on June 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM

But, but, but everyone will love us. JOKE!

Bambi on June 15, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Seven Percent Solution on June 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Hey, good idea.

Inkblots on June 15, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Given how many people in the current administration came in not exactly friendly towards Israel, the alternate interpretation is the U.S. is trying to play some sort of inept “Good Cop, Bad Cop” routine on the Israelis, with Obama eventually telling them (like Clinton told the American people on his broken no-tax hike pledge back in 1993), that he had never worked harder on anything in his entire life, but he just couldn’t get the U.N. not to launch its own probe into the flotilla raid.

jon1979 on June 15, 2010 at 10:37 PM

UN needs there *ss kicked,and booted out of New York as well!!

canopfor on June 15, 2010 at 10:39 PM

Israel to the UN – pound sand

gophergirl on June 15, 2010 at 10:40 PM

Sharron Angle ahead of the curve!

GET US OUT OF THE U.N.

SouthernGent on June 15, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Whomever is the GOP nominee 2012 must have as part of the platform, the a** kicking of the UN out of this country. It is an organization that sucks tax payers money for nothing. End this organization already.

cubachi on June 15, 2010 at 10:43 PM

Come on Allah you should know better!

And if we’ve come to a point where the UN levers of power have been wholly captured by Islamist demagogues like Erdogan, without even a semi-functional American check on international scapegoating of Tel Aviv, JERUSALEM then Israel’s well and truly finished diplomatically

Lance Murdock on June 15, 2010 at 10:44 PM

-PBHO

Bishop on June 15, 2010 at 10:33 PM

PBUH

Shy Guy on June 15, 2010 at 10:44 PM

63% of Israelis Disapprove of Obama’s Response to Gaza Flotilla Incident
=================

Iran Wimps Out: No Military Escort of Ships Heading to Gaza

http://www.thejidf.org/

canopfor on June 15, 2010 at 10:45 PM

Turn off the money…

… end all foreign aid immediately.

Watch what happens…

Seven Percent Solution on June 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM

+1
The best idea I have heard.

xplodeit on June 15, 2010 at 10:45 PM

The Security Council has authority; anything the Secretariat does will be just talk.

exception on June 15, 2010 at 10:46 PM

Breakdown of Humanitarian Aid to the Gaza Strip for June 6th-12th, 15 June 2010

http://idfspokesperson.com/

canopfor on June 15, 2010 at 10:47 PM

Boy, that UN sure is dedicated to fairness, the rule of law, and democracy!

You don’t like what we want to do? And you legally have the power to stop us? We’ll do it anyway!

The UN Needs to be left to its own devices.

amerpundit on June 15, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Interesting !
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Reid-McConnell letter: Consider IHH for terror list
June 14, 2010

WASHINGTON (JTA) — Leaders of both parties in the U.S. Senate are urging President Obama to consider placing the Turkish charity involved in the Gaza flotilla incident on the terrorism list.
====================

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/06/14/2739605/reid-mcconnell-consider-ihh-for-terror-list

canopfor on June 15, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Remind me again: why are we paying to let these idiots grandstand and smear our allies? Maybe it’s time to think about pulling the plug on our UN funding.

Inkblots on June 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Or, you could ask:
Remind me again: why are we paying to let these idiots grandstand and smear our allies? Maybe it’s time to think about pulling the plug on our PBS/NPR funding.
Or, you could ask:
Remind me again: why are we paying to let these idiots grandstand and smear our allies? Maybe it’s time to think about pulling the plug on all university funding.
Or, you could ask:
Remind me again: why are we paying to let this President grandstand and smear our allies?

itsnotaboutme on June 15, 2010 at 10:54 PM

S-M-R-T diplomacy at work!

Wineaholic on June 15, 2010 at 10:56 PM

if we’ve come to a point where the UN levers of power have been wholly captured by Islamist demagogues like Erdogan, without even a semi-functional American check on international scapegoating of Tel Aviv, then Israel’s well and truly finished diplomatically.

No, the UN can “scapegoat” anybody it wants. That has no effect whatsoever on the real world.

It is all up to the US. If the US abandons Israel, then Israel will cease to exist.

But hey, guess what? If the US abandons the UN, then the UN will cease to exist.

The only thing the UN can do is force America to make that choice.

logis on June 15, 2010 at 11:00 PM

Can we please quit calling it a flotilla? Let’s start calling it what it was; an armada. Certainly the next one, escorted by Iran, will should be termed an armada.

dczombie on June 15, 2010 at 11:01 PM

Blockade the UN. Hell yeah.

hillbillyjim on June 15, 2010 at 11:04 PM

So…

What exactly is the point of a veto, which we have observed in our diplomatic efforts with other issues, if the UN plans to essentially ignore ours?

Is this that “smart power” you told me about, daddy?

/sarc

cs89 on June 15, 2010 at 11:10 PM

14 out of 15 ? no wonder EU is going down the drain. yes, a major failure just like everything this administration does. got played by half brains at the UN. If US have shown a firm response to Turkey and its little jihadi friends’ escapade, this would have looked a lot different. An investigation by the US into Turkey’s role with some serious consequences to diplomatic relationship, trade as well as its role in NATO, for example. now these halfwits Rice, Jones and obama have made a mess of it. Israel will be fine, it is the US I am more worried about.

runner on June 15, 2010 at 11:10 PM

So do US vetoes have an asterisk by them or what ? Russian vetoes seem to say nyet .

borntoraisehogs on June 15, 2010 at 11:21 PM

I say off with the nanny pants, leave New York and bring your elites with you.

In other terms

If you don’t like it leave.

My quote, now but hoping a true leader of the USA says it,,, and soon.

seesalrun on June 15, 2010 at 11:38 PM

Turn off the money…

… end all foreign aid immediately.

Watch what happens…

Seven Percent Solution on June 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM

The only reason we stayed in the UN was our spot on the security council.

If the UN has an end round around that, then we have no reason to stay.

Shut off the flow, cut them off, and evict them out of New York… and charge them back rent while we’re at it.

Chaz706 on June 15, 2010 at 11:43 PM

Well, that’s one way to get their own massive problems off the front page for a few days.

OldEnglish on June 15, 2010 at 11:44 PM

What we need is an investigation of the UN!!

pearson on June 15, 2010 at 11:47 PM

THE UN STAFF live in the highest rent districts in the City. I say move it to Moscow and with the next admin have them beg us back/ that is the American Way and//THAT is long range planning.

The current admin doesn’t acknowledge strength nor savvy. God Help Us.

seesalrun on June 15, 2010 at 11:48 PM

Allah, please don’t refer to ‘Tel Aviv,’ as doing so assumes the same narrative as people who believe in your namesake: Jews have no connection to Jerusalem, therefore it should not be their capital.

LeBron on June 16, 2010 at 12:03 AM

Can the general assembly do anything meaningful without the security council’s approval?

For that matter, can the security council do anything meaningful, period?

RINO in Name Only on June 16, 2010 at 1:09 AM

Exactly what good does the UN accomplish?

pedestrian on June 16, 2010 at 1:13 AM

The real veto here would be to cut off all funding to the UN and ask them to vacate American soil. The time has come for that.

DaMav on June 16, 2010 at 1:23 AM

So the US wants sanctions against Iran, if Russia or China Veto there are no sanctions.

UN wants Probe into Israel, US Vetos, they still have probe.

Does anyone see reason why we are part of this charade? Their only use is to push anti-semitism around the world.

Rbastid on June 16, 2010 at 1:24 AM

After the draft of 2011′, I want to be the private who takes the UN Flag down. Just like Iwojima, but somewhat different.

THE CHOSEN ONE on June 16, 2010 at 2:05 AM

After the draft of 2011′, I want to be the private who takes the UN Flag down. Just like Iwojima, but somewhat different.

THE CHOSEN ONE on June 16, 2010 at 2:05 AM

Could you take the building down, after you’ve captured the flag?

Shy Guy on June 16, 2010 at 3:16 AM

Israel should simply ignore the weasels….

JIMV on June 16, 2010 at 4:12 AM

Israel was doomed the day Obama took office.

AUINSC on June 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM

winner….’nuff said

cmsinaz on June 16, 2010 at 5:37 AM

It would be a huge mistake to get out of the UN. It would make much more sense to give no money to the UN budget and veto most of what the Security Council wants to do. If we can, we should also block a next Secretary General from being elected.

It’s not about leaving the UN. It’s about weakening the UN to the point where it is harmless.

thuja on June 16, 2010 at 5:55 AM

It’s not about leaving the UN. It’s about weakening the UN to the point where it is harmless.

thuja on June 16, 2010 at 5:55 AM

that won’t happen anytime soon with dear leader at the helm…

cmsinaz on June 16, 2010 at 6:03 AM

For the trillionth time – Pull the money,kick them out and announce to the world again that we will protect Israel down to our last Nuke.

The UN, that our leftists wish to empower (with them in charge) beyond our own sovereignity remains the potential enemy of freedom for the west. The UN is a reminder of the tyrany of the majority. (Particularly when it becomes an agent for the Jihadists)

Don L on June 16, 2010 at 6:10 AM

It would be a huge mistake to get out of the UN. It would make much more sense to give no money to the UN budget…
thuja on June 16, 2010 at 5:55 AM

I don’t really see any point to the rest of your plan there. Because once we changed the locks and sold the building, I’m pretty sure there wouldn’t be anything to get in or out OF.

Without US funding, what would be left of the UN? A bunch of unemployed Third-World bureaucrats sitting in a tar paper shack somewhere, kiting disaster relief checks and passing endless “resolutions” about how Israel should be destroyed.

logis on June 16, 2010 at 7:36 AM

Allah, hint: Israel’s capital is not Tel Aviv. Get a bloody map.

TexasJew on June 16, 2010 at 7:59 AM

Get.Out.Of.The.UN.

UN = The worlds’ ATM card into the US Treasury, which is my money (and yours).

Nothing more.

BobMbx on June 16, 2010 at 8:04 AM

Could you take the building down, after you’ve captured the flag?

Shy Guy on June 16, 2010 at 3:16 AM

No. Make it a monument to man’s stupidity. Put a Chucky Cheese in the auditorium; will anyone notice a difference?

BobMbx on June 16, 2010 at 8:07 AM

Get the United Nations off American soil!!! This organization is riddled with corruption from top to bottom. This organization is a borderline Terrorist network. What good to the world had this organization brought through the years. How do we justify their existence.

F-em….

Keemo on June 16, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Exit question via Jennifer Rubin: Is this a Barack Obama/James Jones failure of will?

A failure that parallels their wishes. Sure thing.

Squiggy on June 16, 2010 at 1:32 PM

The UN is a terrorist organization.

LODGE4 on June 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM