Quotes of the day

posted at 10:30 pm on June 10, 2010 by Allahpundit

The 12 million people who unlawfully reside the country? Call them “illegal immigrants,” not “undocumented workers,” the pollsters say.

Strip out the empathy, too. Democrats used to offer immigrants “an earned path to citizenship” so hardworking people trying to support their families could “come out of the shadows.” To voters, that sounded like a gift, the operatives concluded.

Now, Democrats emphasize that it’s “unacceptable” to allow 12 million people to live in America illegally and that the government must “require” them to register and “get right with the law.” That means three things: “Obey our laws, learn our language and pay our taxes” — or face deportation…

“When [voters] hear ‘undocumented worker,’ they hear a liberal euphemism, it sounds to them like liberal code,” said Drew Westen, a political consultant who has helped Sharry hone the message through dial testing. “I am often joking with leaders of progressive organizations and members of Congress, ‘If the language appears fine to you, it is probably best not to use it. You are an activist, and by definition, you are out of the mainstream.’”

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1. Jesus was an immigrant. While Jesus was just a small child, Joseph and Mary were forced to flee from Palestine to Egypt because of the genocidal decree issued by Herod. He spent many years in Egypt, and his family returned to Palestine after Herod died. When God deigned to put on humanity, it was in the cultural dressings of an illegal immigrant. Not only is God not far from those on the margins of society, he himself was on the margins of society in the person of Jesus.

2. All humans are created in the image of God. Jesus exhibited an incredible ability to cut through the prejudices of society. He loved the people that no one else seemed to be able to love. Paul said the gospel tears down every dividing wall that keeps people at odds with one another, whether racial, social, gender, or economic.

3. Ancient Israel was meant to be a place hospitable to the alien, sojourner, and immigrant. After Israel entered Palestine, God commanded them to care for immigrants and wanderers, because that’s what they themselves had been for so many years (Ex. 23:9; Lev. 19:33-34).

4. We are all immigrants and sojourners in the world. As Christians, our primary allegiance is to God and to God’s kingdom. We are first and foremost citizens of heaven. Oftentimes immigrants understand this intuitively because they are outside the dominant power culture in the country to which they come. White Christians living in the suburbs of America (like myself) are wise to recognize this implicit advantage immigrants have in living as though they are aliens and sojourners in the world.

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I don’t understand the support for illegals. I guess they’re trying to expiate their guilt for having treated the Amerindians so poorly.

chris999 on June 11, 2010 at 1:47 AM

Me thinks those churches which are illegal-alien zealots actually do it because illegals , specially hispanics are a constant reliable supply of lil boys….what ?

macncheez on June 11, 2010 at 1:59 AM

When God deigned to put on humanity, it was in the cultural dressings of an illegal immigrant.

Weren’t Egypt and Bethlehem both parts of the Roman Empire?

Does Arizona’s law label people born in Utah as illegal immigrants? If so, then I have a problem with that.

If not, well… the people at the site need to prove their “illegal immigrant” claim.

malclave on June 11, 2010 at 2:05 AM

They missed this one: “Jesus was a community organizer; Pontius Pilate was a governor.”

ya2daup on June 11, 2010 at 2:22 AM

This is pure and simple poppycock! These morons are acting as if, back in those days, there were border guards and laws about immigration and emigration. There were not. People knew who you were and whence you came by your racial identity, your manner of dress, and your speech—racial profiling, doncherknow!

God gave us laws that we can live according to once having been baptized. He gave us government that we might have another set of laws to govern the state. Moreover, Christians are not under law but under grace. We place ourselves under law when we sin against God.

These theological clowns can’t seem to distinguish between civil and religious law and their applications.

SilentWatcher on June 11, 2010 at 2:25 AM

Oh Goody, another reason to despise organized religion!!

rickyricardo on June 11, 2010 at 2:26 AM

This crap is so orchestrated as to be hilarious.

These amnesty clowns are trying every freaking angle.

rickyricardo on June 11, 2010 at 2:27 AM

Abby Sunderland has been contacted.

FoxNews just said it

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Abby-Sunderland/265362055063?v=wall

WoosterOh on June 11, 2010 at 2:35 AM

They missed this one: “Jesus was a community organizer; Pontius Pilate was a governor.”

ya2daup on June 11, 2010 at 2:22 AM

Rush took it a step further
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecMAJUoY9cg

macncheez on June 11, 2010 at 2:46 AM

http://soloround.blogspot.com/

Abby is Fine!
We have just heard from the Australian Search and Rescue. The plane arrived on the scene moments ago. Wild Eyes is upright but her rigging is down. The weather conditions are abating. Radio communication was made and Abby reports that she is fine!

We don’t know much else right now. The French fishing vessel that was diverted to her location will be there in a little over 24 hours. Where they will take her or how long it will take we don’t know.

More updates as news comes in.

Laurence & Marianne

WoosterOh on June 11, 2010 at 2:49 AM

http://www.2ue.com.au/blogs/2ue-blog/teen-solo-sailer-found-safe/20100611-y343.html

Audio of the news breaking with the parents that they found Abby. They were live with the dad when you can hear the phone ring.

WoosterOh on June 11, 2010 at 3:07 AM

Posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago.

(Newser) – Searchers seeking missing teen solo sailor Abby Sunderland have contacted her via radio and she’s alive and well, her team revealed. Contact was lost with the 16-year-old Californian before dawn yesterday and she released emergency beacons shortly after. She reported being swamped by 25-foot waves in the southern Indian Ocean before losing contact. Sunderland told searchers aboard a Quantas airbus, commissioned by the Australain government, that she’s fine and has plenty of food. A fishing boat is en route to help her, reports MSNBC.

Tav on June 11, 2010 at 3:38 AM

“America was indebted to immigration for her settlement and prosperity. That part of America which had encouraged them most had advanced most rapidly in population, agriculture and the arts.”

AshleyTKing on June 11, 2010 at 4:17 AM

AshleyTKing on June 11, 2010 at 4:17 AM

Big difference between legal immigration and illegal invasion.

OldEnglish on June 11, 2010 at 4:26 AM

These Christian “experts” seem to forget the fact that Paul had to assert that he was a Roman citizen and was afforded exceptional rights to appeal his case to Nero. Meaning, of course, that most of the empire were not considered citizens.

John the Libertarian on June 11, 2010 at 4:27 AM

SilentWatcher on June 11, 2010 at 2:25 AM

“Render unto Caesar…”

DrMagnolias on June 11, 2010 at 5:26 AM

One of the most specious arguments used is “we are a nation of immigrants.” Of what nation can’t that be said? Regardless, what we have done in the past does not obligate us to continue doing it. We have both the right and the obligation to decide who we want to allow in, and we have the right to use whatever criteria we want. If these open borders proponents really believe what they say, they should leave their houses unlocked–after all, wouldn’t that be an obligation of Christian charity?

DrMagnolias on June 11, 2010 at 5:36 AM

What creepy crap over at tht “patheos” site.

The line about “As Christians, our primary allegiance is to God and to God’s kingdom” sets off alarm bells to me; it sounds more like the call of “islamic caliphate” over “nations.” Manipulative cooptation. Ick.

Lockstein13 on June 11, 2010 at 5:39 AM

Then let the ILLEGALS live in your churches and YOU can educate them and provide their healthcare.

You might have to take a cut in pay, but, God will love you for it.

stenwin77 on June 11, 2010 at 6:47 AM

The line about “As Christians, our primary allegiance is to God and to God’s kingdom”
Lockstein13

That line caused me no problems seeing as how it’s been standard Christian dogma for 2000 years. The made up part about Jesus living “many years” in Egypt was disturbing though. Further, Jesus went to Egypt as a refugee not an illegal alien. And there’s nothing to suggest he broke any of Egypt’s laws in doing so.

tommyboy on June 11, 2010 at 6:55 AM

People escaping genocide are refuges, not immigrants.

goddessoftheclassroom on June 11, 2010 at 7:01 AM

Ancient Israel was meant to be a place hospitable to the alien, sojourner, and immigrant. After Israel entered Palestine, God commanded them to care for immigrants and wanderers, because that’s what they themselves had been for so many years

What about the Cannanites, Jebusites, Moabites, Perruzites, et. al.? I don’t recall God asking Israel to be so hospitable to them. To the contrary.

tommyboy on June 11, 2010 at 7:12 AM

When God deigned to put on humanity, it was in the cultural dressings of an illegal immigrant.

OK someone is just making crap up there, tossing it out and seeing if anything sticks.

Johnnyreb on June 11, 2010 at 7:24 AM

@ tommyboy on June 11, 2010 at 6:55 AM

One can say that thought alone on its own may be no cause for concern, but in context of the rest…hoo wee!

Nothing like mixing a little truth in a boatload of lies to make it palatable/seem credible.

Lockstein13 on June 11, 2010 at 7:40 AM

We are first and foremost citizens of heaven. Oftentimes immigrants understand this intuitively because they are outside the dominant power culture in the country to which they come.

Close to the single most stupid, vapid, comment ever!

To say, “immigrants understand they are citizens of heaven because they are outside the dominant power culture?

You gotta laugh or….?

donh525 on June 11, 2010 at 8:00 AM

They missed this one: “Jesus was a community organizer; Pontius Pilate was a governor.”

The implication being, I guess, that Obama is Jesus and Palin is Pilate sentencing him to execution by crucifixion while trying to wipe her hands clean of his blood.

See, kids? This is what happens when the mental illness that is “progressivism” infects religious rhetoric.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

Good Lt on June 11, 2010 at 8:37 AM

The National Association of Evanjellyfish is a disgrace.

Akzed on June 11, 2010 at 8:42 AM

Israel was not the model for nations but for the church. Not exploiting or a busing visitors does not mean that nations cannot protect their borders, it means that churches and Christians generally should be kind to non-Christians, especially when they visit.

This is like taking Jesus’ command to individuals to turn the other cheek, and applying it to a nation that has been invaded by an army.

Vistoria Jackson was right, but when Christians take her advice they are as likely to make mistakes as in any other sphere of activity.

Poor hermeneutics is a real problem among evangelicals.

Akzed on June 11, 2010 at 8:46 AM

This has everything to do with abortion. I went to a pro-life dinner last night and the speaker was Dr. Land. He made a huge deal out of how the red states were increasing in population and electoral votes and the blue states were decreasing in both and how this would eventually lead to the overturning of Roe v Wade. I think they really think that if they pander to Hispanics on immigration that these people will all magically vote Republican and baby’s lives will be saved.

I almost told him: “Great speech, but you are 100% wrong on immigration”.

mrsmwp on June 11, 2010 at 8:47 AM

What I want to know is how we know that 100,000 illegals left Arizona.

If we know how many there are and where they are; why can’t we pick them up?

A one way Greyhound bus ticket from Phonix to Juarez is $44 and from NYC is $140. 12 million at 140 is less than 2 billion dollars. Houston citizens pays more than that for illegal healthcare.

barnone on June 11, 2010 at 9:04 AM

Posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago.

(Newser) – Searchers seeking missing teen solo sailor Abby Sunderland have contacted her via radio…
Tav on June 11, 2010 at 3:38 AM

Great news!

Gang-of-One on June 11, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Didn’t Jesus also teach us to honor the laws where we live?

frode on June 11, 2010 at 9:30 AM

Some people’s lack of understanding of the scripture never ceases to amaze.

Kissmygrits on June 11, 2010 at 9:31 AM

1. Lie. Egypt and Judea were both part of Rome. While Herod was a client ruler, he still acknowledged the overlordship of Ceasar.

2. Completely irrelevant to the argument.

3. Lie again. Hebrew law did not allow foreign immigration. It offered kindness to travellers and nomads, not permenent resettlement and benefits of citizenship.

4. Completely unfounded opinion, without any scriptural support. I have personal opinions as well, but I don’t try to pass them off as scriptural.

mabryb1 on June 11, 2010 at 9:36 AM

Richard Land is the devil’s tool. What a buffoon.

He’s all for amnesty for illegal aliens and at the same time loosening legal immigration standards, but declares that “same sex benefits” for these illegal aliens is “a death sentence” for his proposed legislation.

Always remember: when these clowns and politicians descend to the position of “secure the border first” they are lying through their teeth. They couldn’t care less about securing the border, as they have proved for generations.

Secure the border first, Richie, and then — and only then — let’s talk about what to do with immigration policy.

Jaibones on June 11, 2010 at 9:41 AM

These people are embarassing. Completely. Twisting and turning with false compassion.

Jesus told plenty of people to go and sin no more. It’s a sin to break reasonable laws designed to promote order. Jesus did nothing to try to overthrow Rome in the revolutionary/whacko liberal sense. He knew that changing people would eventually change the world.

Mommynator on June 11, 2010 at 9:42 AM

To quote Steyn:

[In the liberal Christian churches], if Jesus were alive today he’d most likely be a gay Anglican bishop in a committed relationship driving around in an environmentally-friendly car with an “Arms Are For Hugging” sticker on the way to an interfaith dialogue with a Wiccan and a couple of Wahhabi imams.


A lot of Christian churches have become secular horrors, Sunday socialist clubs.

theCork on June 11, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago.

(Newser) – Searchers seeking missing teen solo sailor Abby Sunderland have contacted her via radio…
Tav on June 11, 2010 at 3:38 AM

Great news!

Gang-of-One on June 11, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Thank God!

Inanemergencydial on June 11, 2010 at 10:56 AM

1. Jesus was an immigrant. While Jesus was just a small child, Joseph and Mary were forced to flee from Palestine to Egypt because of the genocidal decree issued by Herod. He spent many years in Egypt, and his family returned to Palestine after Herod died. When God deigned to put on humanity, it was in the cultural dressings of an illegal immigrant. Not only is God not far from those on the margins of society, he himself was on the margins of society in the person of Jesus.

Jesus was NOT an illegal immigrant in Israel–He was born in Bethlehem (part of Israel at the time), and both Mary and Joseph were citizens of Israel and loyal followers of the Jewish religion. He was forced to flee to Egypt as a child because Herod, whose royalty was imposed on Israel by the Roman occupiers, mistakenly thought that Jesus’ birth threatened Herod’s throne.

The Gospels do not say how many years Jesus spent in Egypt, but they DO say that Jesus had returned to Israel and discussed with the learned men of the Temple in Jerusalem when He was 12 years old, so that if Jesus was an “illegal immigrant” in Egypt, it was as a child, not as an adult. After the discussion with the learned men in the Temple, Jesus returned to Nazareth with Mary and Joseph, and presumably took over Joseph’s carpentry business after Joseph’s death. Before Jesus began preaching at age 30, He was a working man and small business owner!

Even Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor who ordered Jesus to be crucified, identified him in writing as “Jesus OF NAZARETH”, a legal citizen of Israel, and NOT an “illegal immigrant”.

Amazing, that advocates of illegal immigration will twist the Gospels to make a point. Aren’t these the same people claiming that Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley are not Christian because their parents were from India?

Steve Z on June 11, 2010 at 12:33 PM

When God deigned to put on humanity, it was in the cultural dressings of an illegal immigrant.
Weren’t Egypt and Bethlehem both parts of the Roman Em
Does Arizona’s law label people born in Utah as illegal immigrants? If so, then I have a problem with that.

If not, well… the people at the site need to prove their “illegal immigrant” claim.

malclave on June 11, 2010 at 2:05 AM

You are correct
http://www.roman-empire.net/maps/empire/extent/augustus.html

the annexation of Egypt took place in 30 BC

TBinSTL on June 11, 2010 at 9:56 PM

re: labels. I prefer to call them what they are: “trespassers”
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Most people know to ask for permission at the front door before they enter a home or someone’s property. This is our home and castle. To pretend they are not trespassing demeans the rule of law and diminishes civil society and the social contract that underwrites most everything we do (meaning the written law is less important than our day-to-day attitude and helpfulness, ability to walk around without fear).

aritai on June 12, 2010 at 12:13 AM

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