Bizarre: California passes proposition eliminating party primaries
posted at 8:06 pm on June 9, 2010 by Allahpundit
When I heard they were voting on a proposition that would create an “open primary,” I thought that meant the standard model — i.e., any voter is free to vote in either primary regardless of party affiliation. I … was drastically wrong.
Despite opposition from party leaders, voters approved Proposition 14 by a 54%-46% margin. The measure would allow voters to pick candidates from any political party during a primary; only the top 2 candidates would advance to a general election, regardless of party.
Supporters of the initiative said it would result in greater voter choice, and that it would lead to more moderate picks for state legislature by bringing independent voters into the primary process. But opponents said the measure would hurt third parties and independent candidates, and that the smaller number of candidates on a general election ballot would end up costing voters a choice.
Follow the link for the legal implications. Basically, so long as the candidates don’t declare any formal party affiliation but merely state that they “prefer” one party over another, that’s probably enough to make it constitutional. Otherwise, there’s a First Amendment issue in letting people who are unaffiliated with a party pick that party’s official nominee, as will happen in a “blanket primary” (which is slightly different from this). Schwarzenegger’s a big fan of the new system, and understandably so: It’s aimed at preventing fierce partisans like the nutroots and tea partiers from dominating their respective primary elections and forcing a choice between two ideologues on the public in the general election. So for instance, under California’s new system, in last night’s Nevada race a bunch of independents who might not otherwise have voted in the GOP election could have broken hard for Sue Lowden over Angle and put her and Reid on the ballot in November as the two top finishers.
Ace calls this the death of political parties, which is potentially true in deep blue or deep red states where you might end up with no Republican or Democrat on the ballot in the general election. But even so, I’m intrigued by the possibilities it’ll create for strategic voting. To revisit the Nevada example, given that Reid’s campaign desperately wanted to face Angle rather than Lowden, would a bunch of his voters have voted for Angle last night on the assumption that Reid would get enough votes anyway to finish in the top two? And, er, what if they miscalculated? Also, I’m not quite as pessimistic as Ace is about a state’s minority party being knocked off the ballot in the general for the simple reason that minority parties will know that they have to unite behind a single candidate before the vote. E.g., in Texas, a bunch of Republican candidates could afford to duke it out but Democrats would have to pick some anointed de facto nominee before the primary and pool their votes behind that person to ensure that they finish in the top two. In fact, as Chris Cillizza notes, depending upon how many ways the Republican vote is split, you could end up with a general election between two Democrats — in Texas. And if you did, that would force the state’s Republican base to either try a write-in campaign for some GOPer on election day or to line up behind the more conservative Democrat of the two, which could actually help reduce partisanship a bit by forcing voters of one party to invest in a candidate from across the aisle.
The irony is, unless the parties decide to hold “invisible primaries” beforehand so that the rank-and-file know whom to pool their votes for on primary day, this may hand more power to each party’s machine. If the machine says, “We need to unite behind Sue Lowden,” grassroots conservatives might do so simply because they fear being knocked off the ballot in the general if the GOP vote gets split between Lowden and a bunch of others. And, for a further irony, that might lead parties to make many more Sestak/Romanoff-type job offers in order to clear the field for their candidates of choice. In other words, for a supposed good government measure, there are all sorts of potentially untoward consequences. Let’s vote on it!









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AnninCA,
As tempted as I am to resort to calling you a moron, I’ll refrain.
We already have a system where we vote and the best person (or technically, the one with the most votes) wins – it’s called the general election!
Primaries are for parties to organize themselves and sort out their ideas. The only reason to change that is to get rid of those meddlesome Republicans who keep blocking all the tax increases the Dems want.
This way, Repubs can be eliminated from the general election all together.
You say you don’t want to block voters. But, as is common judging from your other posts, you haven’t thought it through.
Pablo Snooze on June 10, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Nice to know this all California, the land of nutz and fruitz, has to worry about.
Wade on June 10, 2010 at 10:59 AM
Because the Pro Proposition 14 lobby spent millions of dollars on TV and radio ads to con the voters into thinking this would “reform the system” and “send a message to Sacramento” and not one dime was spent in opposition ads.
EasyEight on June 10, 2010 at 11:28 AM
This was the only proposition I cared about, and naturally it passed, cementing my utter disdain of California politics. No wonder the state is in chaos. Lots of people voting in lots of elections about which they know nothing and yet everyone has to live with the result.
This was to ensure that the liberals never have to face a challenger, so they can finish the job of flushing the state down the toilet. We are so out of here.
evergreen on June 10, 2010 at 11:36 AM
“Polarization” is another word for “representation.” It is why we have two houses of our legislature, so that a dominant majority cannot completely shut out the voices of smaller blocs of voters.
evergreen on June 10, 2010 at 11:51 AM
Who came up with this party shiite anyway ?
borntoraisehogs on June 10, 2010 at 11:55 AM
evergreen on June 10, 2010 at 11:51 AM
Please explain how that can be
How does this apply because there are 2 houses?
Wade on June 10, 2010 at 12:01 PM
It means that the “party bosses” pick the candidate, not the party members.
If there was ever a reason for the Tea Party people to “take over” the GOP district by district, here it is.
barnone on June 10, 2010 at 12:07 PM
This will turn California into the old Soviet Union – one party rule.
Woody
woodcdi on June 10, 2010 at 12:17 PM
This is like throwing more toilet paper into a plugged toilet hoping the extra weight will cause it to flush. Just wait until someone flips the lever …
I’m glad the Rocky Mountains form a barrier between the left coast and the rest of the country. If there is something the rest of the country doesn’t need, it’s their – excrement! I hope Oregon and Washington are up-hill.
Woody
woodcdi on June 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Figures AP would find this intriguing. The only thing this accomplishes is to insure the party leaders are the only ones who have a say in who the candidate will be. There will be shadow primaries like the one they held in NY that gave you Dede Scozzafava. With systems like these Rubio would have had no chance at all, we would be stuck with Crist.
You know what that leads to? Reduced turnout on election day.
This thinking is what gets a McMahon endorsed by the party for Senate. I live in Connecticut. I am a Conservative. If Linda McMahon is the R candidate on the ballot come November I am either not voting for Senate or writing someone in. End of story. I don’t care about her politics.
Anybody who made their fortune selling fake sports on the backs of guys popping steroids like candy has no business on a Town Council never mind the US Senate.
Rocks on June 10, 2010 at 12:25 PM
this measure doesn’t even go far enough. There should not be any political parties listed on ballots, only names of individuals. Some of you want to question the constitutionality of this measure. I question the strict constitutionality of allowing groups to conspire ahead of time through pre-elections to restrict who appears on the actual ballot. The only function of a primary should be to find the names of the top 2 candidates to put on the final run off ballot. Their group affiliation should have nothing to do with it. The party apparatus on both sides SELECTS the winner of the party primary most of the time. We have a hint of something different this year and that is seen as unusual. The status quo is pro-establishment, pro-incumbent. This measure is pro-grassroots since who appears on the ballots are moved out of the control of party leadership. you guys sound like a bunch of progressives worrying about which group affiliation people belong to instead of having a straightforward election of candidates.
Resolute on June 10, 2010 at 12:48 PM
WA State has the provision starting this year. We will see how it works out. It has the possibility of having 2 Dems throughout the majority of ballot in November for all positions, but then again, we might also have 2 Republicans at least for Senator. Patty Murray’s only supporters are the mindless union people.
Voter from WA State on June 10, 2010 at 12:49 PM
Exactly. The primaries are not there to prop up the two party system. I would think Tea Partiers would be in favor of this.
It’s been in effect in Washington state, but maybe only for a year.
pedestrian on June 10, 2010 at 1:01 PM
For several years now I’ve thought that elections could be greatly improved by having voters rank the candidates for each office from most favoured to least favoured with a decreasing number of points awarded to each position. For example, if there are seven candidates on the ballot, the person who you place at the top of your list (your favourite) gets seven points, the next person on your list receives six points and so on down to your least favourite candidate who receives only one point from you. The winner of the election is the candidate who receives the most points.
Obviously, the plan could be ‘reversed’ to make it easier to administer if the voters simply place (or punch) a 1-7 next to each candidate’s name (no dupes, please) and a commensurate number of points awarded the candidates – e.g. the fourth person on your list would get four points, etc. The winner of the election would then be the person with the fewest points, rather than the most points.
For me, this is the system which is the most equitable because all voices are included and it provides voters with the greatest choice and flexibility. I don’t see why it couldn’t work in the primaries as well.
It’ll never happen, however. The Democrats and Republicans would never allow it.
martin.hale on June 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM
It means they will set up entities to flood the primary with limited agenda candidates, kind of like the McCain bid, where his ‘opponents’ Giuliani, Fred, Huck et al skimmed delegates off Romney strata by calculated strata, leaving McCain as the so called vote leader
Set up straw dog candidates representing California factions and use them to create 20 percent victors, most likely incumbents
This is like a bad dream of the parlimentary system, where multiple candidates take small vote counts, but at least get to recoup some power by forming coalition governments. In the California option, one group can easily own both winners and have no need for coaltion
Whatever it takes to rig the system.
entagor on June 10, 2010 at 1:37 PM
You’re right I think. This is why the old Town Meeting system is rapidly dying out in New England. Various factions in a town, most often firemen, police or teachers(union folks you’ll notice)flood the meetings with family members and sympathizers…their group and whatever they want usually passes by a healthy margin. It’s a small microcosm and outcome of the future of this idea in both CA and WA I suspect.
jeanie on June 10, 2010 at 2:14 PM
QFT.
Cali’s working hard to honor her nickname, PRC (People’s Republic of California).
tuffy on June 10, 2010 at 5:21 PM
This is a very bad law, but lets not over-react. In CA the parties are fairly evenly devided between Dem and Rep. The Dems have a slight advantage in raw numbers of registered voters, but they tend not to vote as much.
Case in point: the current primary. The Dems fielded 7 candidates and a total of 1.76 million ballots for Governor. The Reps had 8 candidates and 1.72 million ballots. Jerry Brown got 84% of the Dem votes at 1.48 million and Meg Whitman got 64% of the Rep votes at 1.11 million. If this had occurred under the new paradigm, those two canditates would have faced off in November, just like now.
But, of course, the dynamic changes under the new paradigm so we can’t assume that the election would have gone exactly the same way. So, lets suppose that the Dems had craftily culled their list down to the top two candidates (Brown and Aguirre) and the Reps had naively gone with the same 8 (or, really any subset greater than 1). It would not be possible for the Dems to divide up their 1.76 million votes in a way that both candidates would beat Meg’s 1.11 million. In order to beat Whitman in the primaries, the Dems would have had to siphon off some (about 460,000 or 27%) of the Rep votes while keeping all of their voters on the plantation.
Could this happen? Sure, which is why I think it is a bad idea. But the Reps would have to be incredibly stupid to let it happen. Which, of course, they are… but my point is, this won’t change too much in CA politics.
JackOfClubs on June 10, 2010 at 5:31 PM
Ugh. The best voting system is a priority-based system. You get to choose your fist choice, your second choice, etc. The vote is tallied according to everyone’s first choice. For every candidate not in first place after the first “round,” first choice votes for that cnadidate are change to the voter’s second choice. The process continues through how many choices a voter is afforded (I think 3 is reasonable). Then you have a winner.
So there is no danger in voting for 1. Joe Longshot 2. Joe Bush/Kennedy/Whatever. If Joe Longshot doesn’t make it, your vote isn’t “wasted.”
Mark Jaquith on June 10, 2010 at 6:06 PM
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