New McCain ad: You cannot be serious
posted at 7:37 pm on June 8, 2010 by Allahpundit
Not the lamest ad he’s ever run — the “build the damn fence” spot will never be topped — but darned close. I was with him all the way until the end. Hayworth’s claiming he’s an “outsider,” McCain wants to remind people that that’s far from the truth — fair enough. But then comes this gut-punch, in full-on sneering voiceover: “Outsider? A lobbyist is as inside Washington as it gets.” Yeah, see, I would think that being a four-term incumbent senator and former presidential nominee is “as inside Washington as it gets.” Am I wrong about that? Have we actually reached the point where lobbyists, rather than the people they’re lobbying, are the epitome of Beltway sclerosis? That’s some trick.
By the way, does this mean that McCain is once again, officially, a Maverick? What better way to describe a true-blue “outsider” like him?
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Well, do you know the story behind the founding of the “terrorist group”?
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:02 PM
Did you have relatives in the KKK?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:02 PM
N-boy, how many yanks are in the ground in the South? How did the Yanks smash the south? The only time they defeated the CSA is when they totally outnumbered the North. Why are you such a hateful person? Take the board out of your own eye before asking others to take a splinter out of theirs. Why are you so preoccupied about race, is it because you are a racist and have no foundation of faith in God?
garydt on June 8, 2010 at 11:03 PM
I didn’t get bit by either of them. They both scream loyalty, as do you, but their loyalty only extends to those who drink their kool-aid. Enjoy, katy, Just don’t turn your back…
ladyingray on June 8, 2010 at 11:03 PM
Born in Virginia, raised in Colorado. I’m a Westerner.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:03 PM
I made a misprint is how did the Yanks smash the South and thats when they outnumbered the South.
garydt on June 8, 2010 at 11:04 PM
Yep. I have.
HornetSting on June 8, 2010 at 11:04 PM
No, you are a Southerner. Hahaha
Born and Raised in the North ~ the same can’t be said about you… *sniff sniff*
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:04 PM
Yes, why?
The CSA was destroyed and disgraced. Get over it. The only thing you have now is probably some bumper sticker that says, “The South shall rise again….yeehaw!” Where was that confed redneck spirit when you failed to win that war?
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:06 PM
You haven’t moved on…and we both know it.
ladyingray on June 8, 2010 at 11:06 PM
Now that we found out Naruto is a SOUTHERNER, is he college educated?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:06 PM
Don’t you think it’s ironic?
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:08 PM
I’m stopping. But we stopped being friends the minute the HARPIES turned on BB and then turned on us for defending him. Then they banned us. They talk about hurt like it is owned solely by them. It isn’t.
We are called deviants and perverts, but she is “hurt” when someone talks back–the perfect example of victimhood.
I’m taking my own advice–and dropping the matter.
We are not friends, but we are fellow patriots. We do not need to be enemies…
lovingmyUSA on June 8, 2010 at 11:09 PM
I’m not going to assume to know what you’re talking about. What specifically are you talking about?
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:09 PM
I wonder… is Narutoboy a highschool dropout?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:10 PM
Here
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:12 PM
You wish. Nope. I graduated with honors (mostly A’s, few B’s here and there, A in math and history :-D).
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:12 PM
N-boy ,, why are you such a racist? You never answered how many yanks are buried in the south. If the South is so bad, how come they are getting all the Asian car companies there instead of Detroit? Are the fool unions too stupid to see they drove themselves out of business?
garydt on June 8, 2010 at 11:13 PM
And then college? Hmmmm…
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:13 PM
Reading fail. See: “specifically” Asking me if I know about the founding of the group and whether or not I think it’s ironic, isn’t specific. There are different aspects to its founding.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:14 PM
And if the North is so great, why was the KKK huge in Indiana – famed Dixie state?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:14 PM
I thought you said you were familiar with the beginnings of the KKK… but you’re not aware of what I’m talking about that is ironic?
You use comments to intentionally get a rise of out people here like…
But you’re not familiar with the history of it to understand that it’s beginnings are very ironic. Your comments stump me.
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:15 PM
Well, if you know about the founding than you would know if there was anything ironic that happened… but maybe you don’t know that much. Do you have to pop in a video from the History Channel (or maybe Glenn Beck will have a special for you to study up on).
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:15 PM
Oh, and Naruto, don’t even slam Indiana, because they are more Yankee than your Virginia… must hurt, huh?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:17 PM
In college now. Same grades.
How often do you fly your confederate flag, Cleetus? I heard at the Klan rallies, they make really good ribs. Is this true?
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:18 PM
College graduate = smart?
Tell that to Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, among others…
ladyingray on June 8, 2010 at 11:19 PM
Are you ignoring me or Googling? Or both?
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:19 PM
Nutterbutter should know that some of us born and bred Southerners are pretty proud of the fact.
TXMomof3 on June 8, 2010 at 11:19 PM
Weasel argument. Either tell me what you think was ironic or stop posting.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:19 PM
A’s and B’s… not bad, but try to avoid those B’s…
And what’s your major? Southern Studies?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:19 PM
Hey Nboy its your arrogant attitude is what took the North so long in defeating the CSA. When you are overseas do you act this arrogant with other people? Now I know where the term ugly American comes from. The USA is a great nation and every part is great so quit your B.S. bias towards the South.
garydt on June 8, 2010 at 11:19 PM
Come on kid, have some real debate and stop with the silliness.
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:20 PM
*shhh*
Hateboy don’t like those kind of people… But isn’t it just great that he’s from the South… the same South that he bashes on? Heh. He’s a product of what he hates most.
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:20 PM
Does he understand it was formed by Democrats as a way to fight the Republicans? I’m not so sure…
ladyingray on June 8, 2010 at 11:21 PM
What? No PBS special comes to mind?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:21 PM
Genius, “what was ironic about the KKK’s founding” isn’t exactly the kind of thing you look up an answer for. It’s a broad statement that could have multiple answers. Unless you’re claiming to know every last detail about its founding?
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:21 PM
But, if you were familiar with their founding, you wouldn’t have to… that’s the point. Now, do you have access to a public library?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:22 PM
Back to the trailer and the 24 hour moonshine drinking, Cleetus.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:22 PM
Moron, can you read?
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:23 PM
Now, that gives me an idea. What will be your birth redneck name? LeRoy? Yeah, that’s it. LeRoy.
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:23 PM
Son, do not presume (even on a thread like this), that you can order me to do anything. I will forget that comment and once again ask you, the one who makes comments with all the insights of Civivl War history, what is the momumental irony of the founding of the KKK. Half of the folks who comment here are dying to post the answer but are waiting for you.
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:24 PM
So give one of these multiple answers. If you had given even one, no one would have said, “Oh, you’re wrong!”
But you don’t know because you’re not that sharp… not surprising given your background.
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:24 PM
Ah…there is the bigotry we’ve all grown to love.
ladyingray on June 8, 2010 at 11:24 PM
Huh uh. Tyrone.
Lanceman on June 8, 2010 at 11:25 PM
Hey, now, Tyrone is my redneck name… I’ll let Naruto be the king.
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:25 PM
I do. It’s a very tragic episode of what we call “our” history, but you know that, right?
Do you need some help?
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:26 PM
Only thing I could come up with is that it was founded as a fraternity in a college.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:26 PM
monumental…
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:27 PM
Well, now we’re getting somewhere at least… See that wasn’t so hard.
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:27 PM
No, think Southern General. I mean, isn’t it your basis for connecting it with the Confederate Army?
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:28 PM
Well, like I said, multiple answers.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:28 PM
Are you sure about multiple answers or are you confused on what the definition of multiple is?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:30 PM
Cletus. Generalization.
Klan Rallies. Generalization.
Ribs. You suck if you don’t like ribs.
Colorado…I guess it’s true that you get a certain rocky mountain high from living there….more like lack of oxygen to your brain.
HornetSting on June 8, 2010 at 11:30 PM
Cleetus????????????? Whats with that? I live in Eastern Washington State but my roots are from the south and I thought trailers were for lower income people that the Democrats are so much for. Why do you make fun of poor folks when you claim to be a lefty demo? Plus I don’t live in a mobile home for your information. I am also not a drinking man and I thought the Demos were against sterotyping folks? You don’t follow the rules of your party? You accuse and accuse without any answers as well. Another reason the Yanks took forever to win a battle.
garydt on June 8, 2010 at 11:30 PM
Oh. That Robert E Lee was from my state. Heh.
But he didn’t found the KKK though.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:30 PM
Once again, you fail. Obviously if he saying my answer isn’t correct, there are more. Multiple.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:31 PM
Six pages of comments within minutes of posting. Why? because McStain is the poster child for RINOs. Regardless of any of JDs faults a vote for this carpet bagger is a vote for ammnesty, period. Eevrytime he is re-elected he goes back to be R-SNL. BTW I live in AZ and I will be voting against this arrogant old POS.
skanter on June 8, 2010 at 11:32 PM
Own it and wear it proud… Where’s the I <3 VA shirt?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:32 PM
Billy Joe Jim Bob
TXMomof3 on June 8, 2010 at 11:32 PM
Sorry, Hawk. And, sorry to all that had to witness it.
HornetSting on June 8, 2010 at 11:32 PM
True. There could be another, but you don’t know what it is, because you could only come up with one thing. I guess only a history buff would know something like that, though.
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:33 PM
That sounds like his family…
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:33 PM
N-boy can’t answer one question little alone muliple ones. You have to consider he is obsessed with his hatred.
garydt on June 8, 2010 at 11:34 PM
I do like Virginia. It’s like Texas in the sense that it’s a little ways away from the deep South, hick zone.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:34 PM
He must be majoring in Hate at college… so sad and what a waste of money!
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:35 PM
Still more Southern than Indiana (KKK stronghold)… so that would make you what?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:35 PM
Naruto…you go spouting off about hicks in Texas and they would skin you and stick you on a spit. You really have some issues…
HornetSting on June 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM
Yeah, spelling is important. I’m awful at it. If more people were, we could have kept Bill Gates a little more down to earth.
But back on the subject of the KKK. Lee had no discernable connection to the KKK. First thing you’re correct about. I’m not sure about the college fraterity thing. It was mainly Democratic Politicians in Tennesee. But you keep wanting to tie the Confederate Army into it’s founding. I assert that, that opinion is very ironic considering the ironic beginnings of the KKK. And you seem to think I’m asking some obscure multiple choice question because you don’t know what I’m driving at.
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM
If you’re not a moonshining, confederate loving, redneck, than I have no problem with you. I don’t hate Southerners in general. I hate confederates and their sympathizers.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:38 PM
Southern Democrats founded the KKK, and VA was part of the South.
Don’t think I enjoy admitting that as I am Tennessee born and bred, but facts are facts.
ladyingray on June 8, 2010 at 11:38 PM
Whatever. You’ve got the hate in your blood …
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:39 PM
Isn’t ‘redneck’ a bannable word? I remember another southern hater was bounced because of it…..
HornetSting on June 8, 2010 at 11:39 PM
What part of Virginia are you talking about? Richmond? Certainly not Big Stone Gap or Honaker.
ladyingray on June 8, 2010 at 11:39 PM
:-) E-mail each other. Friends survive worse things.
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:40 PM
At least we know why Naruto (part of the Southern Culture of Hate) knows so much about the “common” lynchings that happen all the time in the South.
Do I need the /s tag?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:40 PM
Shows what you know. I lived in a doublewide on a dead end dirt road and had a bunch of kids running bare footed all over the place. You cannot get hicker than that. My son got potty trained by learning to pee on trees.
TXMomof3 on June 8, 2010 at 11:40 PM
It’d make sense. Ku and Klux are supposed to be Greek. The KKK was connected to the confederate army, in that many of its members had served in it.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:41 PM
Yeah, Nboy has more hate then Helen Thomas,, I wonder if they look alike? Yeah and the ribs were nice while I was listening to “Dixie”.
garydt on June 8, 2010 at 11:41 PM
He elisted as a private first. Quit. Raised a calvary and rejoined the fight.
Americannodash on June 8, 2010 at 11:41 PM
Thanks for keeping this clown occupied and off the SP QOTD.
Lanceman on June 8, 2010 at 11:42 PM
Trees gotta get watered, just like grass!
LOL
ladyingray on June 8, 2010 at 11:42 PM
The South is home to almost all white terrorist hate groups, except one’s dealing with eco-terrorism and radical socialism/communism.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:44 PM
Heh, when we moved to town last fall, I had to tell him that you can’t go peeing on trees in the city.
TXMomof3 on June 8, 2010 at 11:46 PM
N-boy have any of these Southern terrorists flown any planes into buildings lately? Have they blown up planes, or pizza parlors lately? Have they chopped off anyones’ head lately?
garydt on June 8, 2010 at 11:46 PM
I could very well be the last person on Hot Air willing to still debate with you as if you were a mature adult. Can we please drop the name-calling stereotypes? I find the word “redneck” as offensive as I think you do the Confederate Flag. If you continue, I’ll just move on to my friends who have better social skills.
Focus. With all your knowledge of the early beginnings and membership (that you assert you are so familiar with) of the KKK, what is ironic about the general conception that the Confederate Army took off their Butternut and Gray and covered themselves with sheets?
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:46 PM
What about Aryan? Or Hot Aryan?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:47 PM
N-boy then why do you hate farmers who get burnt on the neck when they do their farm work? How many do you know who moonshine? How many people do you know are reorganizing the CSA? You are just a hater and the rest of you is an empty suit.
garydt on June 8, 2010 at 11:49 PM
LOL. I’m not answering your questions anymore. That game is old and tired. If you have a point to make about them, make it. I don’t think you’re as familiar with them as you think. Being apart of the group doesn’t make you an expert, just fyi.
You find the word redneck as offensive as I do the confederate flag? Wow. Unreal.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:50 PM
Mrs. Gump named her son after him.
Americannodash on June 8, 2010 at 11:50 PM
And what about Indiana? And what about these rather scary “Indigenous Hate Groups” out in the west… hmmm…
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:50 PM
Just think how many slaves those poor farmers owned!
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:51 PM
Someone had to do it ;-)
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:51 PM
Meathead I am learning that this N-boy just sterotypes and figures we are all walking around in our Confederate uniforms and listening to Dixie and planning our next terrorist plot.
garydt on June 8, 2010 at 11:52 PM
It’s almost like he watches MTV to learn about his homeland… ;-)
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:53 PM
And that’s the sum total of your understanding of a subject that you seem to have formed a core hate for an entire region of the country over. That just won’t do.
Did you read Americannodash clue. It would be very good even if you weren’t well versed. It might even be enough to Google. But he’s right and I’d bet my paycheck he could answer the question easily.
My point has always been that that era of “our” history is rich with valor and pride that you can look to on both sides. It is all our history. If you relegate it to banter fodder for a thread like this you cheapen the heroic of both sides. The men who fought against the Confederates, who lost friends to the COnfederates and vise versa are better schooled on this than you.
To have the strong feelings you seem espouse, one would think that you were better schooled on the subject.
hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 11:54 PM
You still haven’t answered your own question. I was waiting for the answer, not this wall of nothing. If I wanted to see you say that I don’t know what I’m talking about, I could just read….well, every post you’ve made.
Broken record.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:56 PM
Do you think your family even owned a Record Player growing up in those swamps and all?
MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 11:57 PM
And for someone that apparently knows all about them, I would think you’d know about the fraternity/college connection.
Narutoboy on June 8, 2010 at 11:58 PM
Translation: Hawk won.
HornetSting on June 8, 2010 at 11:59 PM
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