Awesome: Israeli students trying to organize flotilla to Turkey

posted at 6:23 pm on June 8, 2010 by Allahpundit

Why not? Relations between Israel and Turkey are doomed as long as Erdogan and his merry band of Islamists are in charge, so there’s really nothing to lose with a provocation in reverse. Assuming this comes off, the next time that cretin points his finger, the whole world will know just how much blood is on it.

Which, admittedly, won’t make them care.

Student Union chairman Boaz Torporovsky, who has been leading the reverse flotilla charge, told The Jerusalem Post on Monday, “Hundreds of people have volunteered for the flotilla, and many more are contacting us all the time for ways they can help.

“Our plan is to deliver much-needed humanitarian assistance to the Kurds of Turkey, who by the way outnumber Israelis and Palestinians combined,” he said…

Another sea-bound venture is being organized in an effort to draw attention to Turkey’s own controversial policies – this time to Cyprus, to “call for an end to the Turkish occupation” of the island’s northern half – and is being organized by Meretz activist Pinchas Har-Zahav, and his son Haim, who has also signed on for the voyage…

Har-Zahav added that the ship’s passengers were not looking for a violent confrontation and if told to turn back, they would.

“But we feel that it’s important for us to show and remind the world that Turkey is not a righteous country, but a near-rogue state, and that we, the Israeli people, are not suckers.”

According to Torporovsky, they need three things to pull it off: “Money, logistical support and balls – and we’ve got the last two things covered.” To which I reply: PayPal. Seriously, this is a blogosphere fundraising cause celebre waiting to happen; you won’t get a dime from the left, but righty response should be such that you won’t need it. Plus, there’s a bona fide humanitarian angle. Michael Totten was in Turkish Kurdistan in 2006, when Iraq was approaching its post-war nadir, and pronounced it an unmitigated disaster even by Iraqi standards. Actual quote: “When we crossed the border into Iraq, respect for human rights and the standard of living increased dramatically.” My one worry is that Turkish troops might end up boarding the ships and that, unlike the IDF, they won’t be carrying paintball guns as their primary weapons. Ask an Armenian about that, if you can find one.

As I write this, the Telegraph is reporting that Israel’s close to an agreement to allow more aid into Gaza in exchange for a “watered-down” international investigation into the flotilla raid. That’s a bizarre compromise, if true: Not only does it make Israel look like they’re hiding something, but it contradicts the idea oft-mentioned by Israelis since the raid occurred that no matter what they do, they’ll be blamed anyway. If that’s true, and it surely is, why care about the investigation enough to sacrifice something for it? A “watered-down” probe that clears them will simply be dismissed by their enemies as a show trial that was held in exchange for Gaza concessions, and needless to say, it’ll be used by Erdogan to great effect in building resentment among Turkish voters. Can’t win, so don’t try — unless, that is, Netanyahu is looking for a pretext at this point to relax some aid restrictions but needs to save face. This lets him do that, I guess.

Exit quotation courtesy of our Syrian “partner in peace” at today’s session of the UN Human Rights Council: “Let me quote a song that a group of children on a school bus in Israel sing merrily as they go to school and I quote ‘With my teeth I will rip your flesh. With my mouth I will suck your blood.'” The U.S. representative said nothing in reply.


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I have never heard that Israeli song, sounds hezbo to me.

clnurnberg on June 8, 2010 at 6:26 PM

first stop armenia

rob verdi on June 8, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Are they a releif column to the Kurdish ?

William Amos on June 8, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Freaking brilliant. Unless everyone on that boat ends up dead.

BadgerHawk on June 8, 2010 at 6:27 PM

Ummm… Bibi should just visit Turkey and demand to see where the Armenians were killed…

MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 6:27 PM

Two can Tango this Flotilla!!!

canopfor on June 8, 2010 at 6:27 PM

That is all kinds of awesome.

myrenovations on June 8, 2010 at 6:27 PM

sub-headline: “What could go wrong?”

cynccook on June 8, 2010 at 6:28 PM

I think this is a great and yet potentially horrible idea. I’d donate and then pray it goes well or at least stays peaceful.

Esthier on June 8, 2010 at 6:28 PM

“But we feel that it’s important for us to show and remind the world that Turkey is not a righteous country, but a near-rogue state, and that we, the Israeli people, are not suckers.”

In other words they are calling Turkey’s propaganda bluff…nothing like pointing out someone’s blatant hypocrisy and propaganda lies…LOVE IT!

Liberty or Death on June 8, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Awesome: Israeli students trying to organize flotilla to Turkey

That’s the ticket!!

Blaise on June 8, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Where do I donate?

SouthernGent on June 8, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Israel is the New Bush for the international left and isolationist nutballs.

jp on June 8, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Hell lets all do it, HotAir Cruise!!!!!!

jp on June 8, 2010 at 6:32 PM

Yeah, it’s awesome until you realize they’re going to end up dead and the world will blame them for causing the trouble in the first place.

The world already knows the truth. They simply don’t care.

Gregor on June 8, 2010 at 6:32 PM

This will end badly.

portlandon on June 8, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Can we organize a flotilla up the Potomac to brain Barack Obama courage, a heart and a brain?

Because we have a cowardly, brainless, tin man in the White House, in case no one has noticed.

NoDonkey on June 8, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Did this miss the news cycle?

Some hours after Israeli commandos clashed with armed men aboard the Mavi Marmara, Kurdish PKK rebel fighters attacked the Turkish naval base at Iskenderun on the Syrian border, killing seven Turkish seamen and injuring another six. If Ankara can prove its suspicions, it will be able to claim that Israel is involved by proxy in terrorist attacks on Turkish soil. Diplomatic relations still in force despite the frictions between the two countries will then be severed, one step before a declaration of war.

http://www.debka.com/article/8840/

albill on June 8, 2010 at 6:34 PM

Walter Russell Meads latest blog on Appeasers is excellent and the history of the 1920’s and 1930’s isolationist appeasers in the midst of economic gloom and doom is erie.

jp on June 8, 2010 at 6:34 PM

The world already knows the truth. They simply don’t care.

Gregor on June 8, 2010 at 6:32 PM

They “care” just in a way that is quite disgusting. You’re right though. The world knows and yet they hate the Jews. :/

Maybe Militantly “Secular” Europe and their soon to be Islamic Overlords can find something to agree on here…

MeatHeadinCA on June 8, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Awesome to see that the Israeli’s are taking back
the escalation narrative!!

canopfor on June 8, 2010 at 6:36 PM

I nominate Helen Thomas as cruise events director! FUN!

Pin the kippah on the Joooooooooooo!

SouthernGent on June 8, 2010 at 6:39 PM

The Turk occupiers of Byzantium should get the f**k out of Constantinople and go home to Mongolia.

jaime on June 8, 2010 at 6:41 PM

They need to be armed w/plenty of cameras. If they are warned to turn back, they will. This does not need to end badly.

JAM on June 8, 2010 at 6:41 PM

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canopfor on June 8, 2010 at 6:44 PM

They need to be armed w/plenty of cameras. If they are warned to turn back, they will. This does not need to end badly.

JAM on June 8, 2010 at 6:41 PM

I think thats the best , they just have to draw the attention.

the_nile on June 8, 2010 at 6:45 PM

“Let me quote a song that a group of children on a school bus in Israel sing merrily as they go to school and I quote ‘With my teeth I will rip your flesh. With my mouth I will suck your blood.’”

Islamic Fail

That is a Palestinian song sung by Muslim kids. Plenty where that came from too. Ever heard of Palestinian Media Watch?

They do stuff like this all the time.

They even claim Jesus was the first Palestinian and was a Muslim 1600 years before Islam was invented by a nomadic child molester.

Palestinian children’s song

Guardian on June 8, 2010 at 6:48 PM

Could the Israelis include a few Armenians on board?

chris999 on June 8, 2010 at 6:50 PM

The Global News Service of the Jewish People
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Israeli grass-roots effort fights flotilla fallout

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/06/08/2739511/israeli-grass-roots-effort-fights-flotilla-fallout

canopfor on June 8, 2010 at 6:50 PM

Turkish part of cyprus is recognised only by Turkey.

the_nile on June 8, 2010 at 6:51 PM

daddy, did you sink any boats today?

jbh45 on June 8, 2010 at 6:53 PM

My one worry is that Turkish troops might end up boarding the ships and that, unlike the IDF, they won’t be carrying paintball guns as their primary weapons. Ask an Armenian about that, if you can find one.

true that–great point.

ted c on June 8, 2010 at 6:53 PM

Can we organize a flotilla up the Potomac to brain Barack Obama courage, a heart and a brain?

Because we have a cowardly, brainless, tin man in the White House, in case no one has noticed.

NoDonkey on June 8, 2010 at 6:33 PM

did you see that in “US” magazine, on American Idol, or a Jon and Kate plus eight episode? I didnt’ catch that…./

ted c on June 8, 2010 at 6:55 PM

But but the USS Liberty

Signed one tune troll

CWforFreedom on June 8, 2010 at 6:56 PM

If that’s true, and it surely is, why care about the investigation enough to sacrifice something for it?

Well, if true….and if so, then tomorrow’s vote on Iran sanctions probably played a role. Trying to buy Turkey’s vote, Israel = Czechoslovakia etc. And , (If true) Israel is taking a long view – international community against Iran, coalition of the willing bombing Iran’s nuclear sites (instead of Israel having to do so for everyone else in the free world, all by itself).

runner on June 8, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Islamic Fail

That is a Palestinian song sung by Muslim kids. Plenty where that came from too. Ever heard of Palestinian Media Watch?

They do stuff like this all the time.

They even claim Jesus was the first Palestinian and was a Muslim 1600 years before Islam was invented by a nomadic child molester.

Palestinian children’s song

Guardian on June 8, 2010 at 6:48 PM

It’s the usual leftwing projection game.

the_nile on June 8, 2010 at 6:57 PM

The Turks will gladly slaughter them, and while the BBC might mention it, the world will cover their ears and close their eyes.

Speaking of Armenians, I stumbled upon a series of videos on YouTube titled The Young Turks. They’re an ultra-left bunch of dipsticks headed by some Turkish f**ktard. He chose the name of their group…The Young Turks. Yeah. He named them after the group responsible for the Armenian Genocide.

That kind of gall and temerity spells doom for Israelis that try to call their bluff. These people are bloodthirsty savages pursuing their religious precepts. Ally my ass.

MadisonConservative on June 8, 2010 at 6:58 PM

This is why Israel will win.

Sultry Beauty on June 8, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Ask an Armenian about that, if you can find one

Ouch that has to hurt.

chemman on June 8, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Turkey out of Cyprus Now ! End Turkish occupation of Cyprus !

runner on June 8, 2010 at 7:02 PM

I’d donate to these kids too. I’ve asked over at jpost where we can buy products from Israel to support their economy. Doesn’t seem to be a listing anywhere. Guess it’s tourism, but it’s really costly to travel there from the U.S.

Didn’t the Turks just violate Iraqi air space in their zeal to bomb the Kurds within the past couple of days? Saddam would have screamed to the heavens over that one. Nevermind the fact Saddam didn’t do anything but kill and starve them either. The Kurds are the closest in language to Hebrew speaking Israelis. Kurdish people need to talk to the Israeli people.

24K lady on June 8, 2010 at 7:05 PM

The world already knows the truth. They simply don’t care.

Gregor on June 8, 2010 at 6:32 PM

This pretty much sums up the issue and about 90% of the world’s problems.

Grafted on June 8, 2010 at 7:06 PM

שמשון אופציה

Tav on June 8, 2010 at 7:08 PM

There are actually three flotilla ideas that have been, ahem, floated. The Israel Student Union is looking into two ideas. One would use Israeli private boats and yachts to peacefully challenge the Free Gaza boats. The more ambitious idea is to sail to Istanbul with aid for Turkish Armenians and Kurds.

Another group, headed by an activist in the hard left Meretz party is planning it’s own flotilla. The blockade of Gaza and the IDF’s raid on the Free Gaza flotilla has the support of 95% of Israeli Jews, even members of the “peace camp”. The second group is planning a flotilla of Israeli boats to northern Cyprus, which has been occupied by Turkey since 1974.

On this point, liberal American Jews like Peter Beinart are not in sync even with left wingers in Israel (who typically are almost suicidal in their attempts to make a deal with the Palestinians).

rokemronnie on June 8, 2010 at 7:09 PM

Awesome indeed.

Sekhmet on June 8, 2010 at 7:11 PM

Free Free Kurdistan!!!

OxyCon on June 8, 2010 at 7:16 PM

Here is a succinct article on the enemy.

[email protected] on June 8, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Pretty cool, when the flotilla thing 1st blew up in the IDF’s face, a HotHead suggested this very thing in the threads. I am aware that HA is monitored by some in Isreal, I wonder if the idea originated here, wouldn’t that be just too freaking awsome!

Archimedes on June 8, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Israel dammit, sputter, mutter, &%$#ing typo’s!

Archimedes on June 8, 2010 at 7:23 PM

just don’t take the “Lusitania”….

good job kids.

ted c on June 8, 2010 at 7:28 PM

Israel dammit, sputter, mutter, &%$#ing typo’s!
Archimedes on June 8, 2010 at 7:23 PM

If you delete the last two words, you just did an amazing Jimbo03 impersonation.

kingsjester on June 8, 2010 at 7:32 PM

just don’t take the “Lusitania”….

good job kids.

ted c on June 8, 2010 at 7:28 PM

ted c: Or the MV Wilhelm Gustloff!!!–:)

canopfor on June 8, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Pretty cool, when the flotilla thing 1st blew up in the IDF’s face, a HotHead suggested this very thing in the threads. I am aware that HA is monitored by some in Isreal, I wonder if the idea originated here, wouldn’t that be just too freaking awsome!

Archimedes on June 8, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Archimedes: I wouldn’t doubt it!!–:)

canopfor on June 8, 2010 at 7:35 PM

I’d donate to these kids too. I’ve asked over at jpost where we can buy products from Israel to support their economy. Doesn’t seem to be a listing anywhere. Guess it’s tourism, but it’s really costly to travel there from the U.S.

24K lady on June 8, 2010 at 7:05 PM

On the left side of the front page is a menu of “More Services”, and the first one listed is JPost Store. Click on that and it will open up the store site.

ProfessorMiao on June 8, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Where’s the tip jar? I’ll throw five bucks in :-)

Good Lt on June 8, 2010 at 7:37 PM

When are we going to pull out of the UN?

d1carter on June 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Where do I donate?

SouthernGent on June 8, 2010 at 6:30 PM

SG, I hope we are kidding. These kids are different than the “world approved” fleet of terrorists that tried to get into Gaza. I would be really afraid they’d get hurt, really hurt and the freaking liberal, leftist Palestinians and Turkish sympathizers would laugh it off and say they had it coming to them. I think they should nor consider this seriously. It’s sad, but I have never seen so much hate for one group of people as I have in the last twenty years for the Jews. My heart goes out to them and wonder about a world that stood by and watched this very thing happen to them 60-70 years ago.

hawkdriver on June 8, 2010 at 7:39 PM

It is long past time for Turkey to answer for occupied Constantinople and return Cyprus to its rightful owners.

dentalque on June 8, 2010 at 7:40 PM

I’d donate to these kids too. I’ve asked over at jpost where we can buy products from Israel to support their economy. Doesn’t seem to be a listing anywhere. Guess it’s tourism, but it’s really costly to travel there from the U.S.

24K lady on June 8, 2010 at 7:05 PM

Also, if you are a sandal wearer, buy Naot. Israeli made and the best sandals you can buy. Pricy over here but they last forever (I just had to replace a pair I’d had for 12 years). If you can’t get them locally, there are lots of places in the US where you can buy them on line.

ProfessorMiao on June 8, 2010 at 7:40 PM

A shipload of fancy paper drumstick covers …for all the turkeys.

Go Hebrews!

profitsbeard on June 8, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Thank you Professor Miao for the hint.
Must have been another blonde moment because I never thought to look, much less click on ‘more services’….even after having visited the site a thousand times. :) Not much of a sandal wearer, but willing to help out.

With all the countries boycotting Israel I encourage everyone to do what they can to help out.

24K lady on June 8, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Let’s call it CRAM – Civil Rights for All Muslims

faraway on June 8, 2010 at 8:12 PM

While we’re at it, how about some UN talks about the future of the Muslim-occupied city of Constantinople.

kd6rxl on June 8, 2010 at 8:23 PM

I wish I could go with them.

Wanderlust on June 8, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Brilliant! Pulls the pants down on the Euro, Turk, Arab, Obama and any other kind of wienies.

Mason on June 8, 2010 at 8:27 PM

I would suggst a flotilla of Armenians be sent to a beach landing in Turkey, but there are so few left

entagor on June 8, 2010 at 8:54 PM

They might want to consider what happened to the Struma, a ship carrying Jewish Romanians, that was rerouted to Istanbul after trying to reach Palestine. The Turks towed them out into the Black Sea where a Russian sub torpedoed it. All the passengers save one were killed.

Kalifornia Kafir on June 8, 2010 at 10:03 PM

I would suggst a flotilla of Armenians be sent to a beach landing in Turkey, but there are so few left

entagor on June 8, 2010 at 8:54 PM

Armenians are doing OK in their little landlocked country – according to the CIA worldbook, Armenia manages to have a 99% literacy rate among males and females. Turkey, on the other hand, has an 87% literacy rate – 95% for males, and (here’s a shocker) 79% for females.
Nary an honor killing in Armenia either.
Christians tend to be more civilized than their barbarian Islamist counterparts.

CarolynM on June 8, 2010 at 10:21 PM

They might want to consider what happened to the Struma, a ship carrying Jewish Romanians, that was rerouted to Istanbul after trying to reach Palestine. The Turks towed them out into the Black Sea where a Russian sub torpedoed it. All the passengers save one were killed.

Kalifornia Kafir on June 8, 2010 at 10:03 PM

very correct account, Kafir, I was born and raised in Eastern Europe and the incident you mentioned there is 100% accurate…the great Turkish democracy and human rights champion :-)…oups, you have to excuse me now, I just threw up in my mouth a little…

jimver on June 9, 2010 at 12:32 AM

Free Free Kurdistan!!!

OxyCon on June 8, 2010 at 7:16 PM

It is long past time for Turkey to answer for occupied Constantinople and return Cyprus to its rightful owners.

dentalque on June 8, 2010 at 7:40 PM

What a bizarre world we live in, that Turkey can get away with this blatant hypocrisy.

Israel needs to start inciting unrest among the Turkish occupied Greek Cypriots and Armenian/Kurdish regions of Turkey. Turkey’s propaganda and near overt warfare against Israel should not go unanswered.

scotash on June 9, 2010 at 12:44 AM

With all the countries boycotting Israel I encourage everyone to do what they can to help out.

24K lady on June 8, 2010 at 7:59 PM

what countries are boycotting Israel?

jimver on June 9, 2010 at 3:02 AM

On the one hand I think it’s a great idea too. I hope the kids know they might be killed and the world will blame it on them.

On the other hand I don’t know if a pointless suicide mission is worth it. Israel should just nuke Iran and get on with it.

History likes to single out Hitler to be the fall guy for the holocaust, but then just as now, the world sat by and let it happen. Hitler gives the world plausible deniability. Who will personify denial for the following generations, for the next time we pretend we won’t let it happen again?

deewhybee on June 9, 2010 at 3:06 AM

Walter Russell Meads latest blog on Appeasers is excellent and the history of the 1920’s and 1930’s isolationist appeasers in the midst of economic gloom and doom is erie.

jp on June 8, 2010 at 6:34 PM

Thanks for the great link!

thuja on June 9, 2010 at 9:43 AM

It doesn’t look like they have a PayPal account set up, but I think I found their official website:
Tranlated from Hebrew

This appears to be their contact page.

Email: [email protected]
Phone: 036 093 330
Fax: 036 093 331

I sent an email, but haven’t gotten a response yet. Someone web-savvy needs to get in touch with them and help them get a more user-friendly page. I’m sure there is a lot of support out there if they can tap into it.

Also, for those interested, here are some other counter protests (i.e. Pro-Israel):
Flotilla Facts
Petition to investicate Flotilla Passengers
Pro-Israel Demonstrations

JackOfClubs on June 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM