Founder of Ground Zero mosque part of group that helped fund Gaza flotilla
posted at 2:15 pm on June 5, 2010 by Allahpundit
More specifically, he’s part of a group that’s funding another group that helped organize the flotilla. Too far removed for culpability? Let’s see.
The imam behind a proposed mosque near Ground Zero is a prominent member of a group that helped sponsor the pro-Palestinian activists who clashed violently with Israeli commandos at sea this week.
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is a key figure in Malaysian-based Perdana Global Peace Organization, according to its Website.
Perdana is the single biggest donor ($366,000) so far to the Free Gaza Movement, a key organizer of the six-ship flotilla that tried to break Israel’s blockade of the Hamas-run Gaza Strip Monday.
Here’s Rauf’s bio at the Perdana website. Reuters confirmed with the Free Gaza Movement — whose supporters include William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, natch — that its biggest donation did indeed come from Perdana. Any reason to fault Rauf for belonging to a “global peace organization” willing to give money to another group that promises only “civil resistance and non-violent direct action”? Well, it depends. Did he know that the flotilla was being co-organized by a Turkish charity with terrorist ties? Did he know that goon provocateurs would be aboard the flotilla, some of them from the Muslim Brotherhood? Does he realize that the stated mission of the Free Gaza Movement, i.e. to “establish a permanent sea lane between Gaza and the rest of the world,” will assuredly result in weapons shipments to Hamas? If he didn’t know those things before — and maybe he didn’t — does finding out now change his opinion of the FGM? Inquiring reporters should want to know.
But as intriguing as the Post’s report is, it’s actually missing a bigger story. Go take a look at who the most prominent member of Perdana is. Right — Mahathir Mohamad, former prime minister of Malaysia, Jew-baiter extraordinaire, and prominent … 9/11 Truther. Actual quote: “There is strong evidence that the attacks were staged. If they can make Avatar, they can make anything.” Question for Rauf: If you’re all about peace and healing at Ground Zero, why stick with a charity that’s being spearheaded by a guy who blames the U.S. government for what happened there?
Which brings me to a point that’s been drowned in the uproar over the mosque. A few days ago, Greenroomer CK MacLeod accused the mosque’s critics of playing into jihadists’ hands by conflating radical Muslims with all Muslims. Why punish all members of the faith collectively by denying them a mosque near Ground Zero, asked CK, when it’s the Bin Ladenites who are culpable for bringing down the towers? The problem is, Islam isn’t divided cleanly into “radical” and “liberal” camps, with Osama emblematic of the first camp and, say, Dr. Zuhdi Jasser (who, incidentally, opposes the Ground Zero mosque) emblematic of the other. It’s a spectrum, which includes true jihadis, who are willing to commit violence; those who support them morally (and financially) but are unwilling to commit violence themselves; those who oppose violence but nonetheless believe in Islamic supremacy; those who believe civil law should be supreme but nonetheless condone various forms of cultural self-isolation; and of course truly assimilated, liberal Muslims like Jasser, who risks his life every day speaking out against the scum on the other end.
At what point on the spectrum does Rauf fall? Does his association with Mahathir affect that judgment? How about the fact that, as Greenroomer J.E. Dyer notes, he’s coincidentally chosen to name his mosque after a great Muslim victory over the west? Or, if all that’s too heady, what about his insistence on bringing his symbol of “healing” to Ground Zero despite the fact that the idea’s had quite the opposite effect for many New Yorkers? As I’ve said before, that’s a curious bit of cultural insensitivity, particularly when no one’s objecting to the idea of a new mosque located pretty much anywhere else in the city. Just wondering: If some imam decided he wanted to build a mosque on Ground Zero itself, at the foot of the never-to-be-completed Freedom Tower, shouldn’t we indulge him per CK’s logic? And if he decided he wanted to build it in the shape of an airplane — just to “reclaim the symbol” from the evil jihadists who attacked on 9/11, mind you — shouldn’t we indulge him that, too? At what point is it okay to question motives here?









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Yeah. We’re going to lose our freedoms and get driven into poverty. But at least we won’t have offended anyone.
Daggett on June 5, 2010 at 2:17 PM
Of course he did. That was the whole point of the exercise.
Jeff2161 on June 5, 2010 at 2:18 PM
Now.
Mason on June 5, 2010 at 2:18 PM
Way to go, whatever NYC council that was that bent over and grabbed the ankles.
ddrintn on June 5, 2010 at 2:18 PM
Personally, I’m just wondering why CK has a gig in the Green Room at all.
Disturb the Universe on June 5, 2010 at 2:19 PM
Well then, I’m sure the community board will now be 1000% behind building this mosque near Ground Zero.
Lance Murdock on June 5, 2010 at 2:19 PM
From the moment it was proposed.
kingsjester on June 5, 2010 at 2:21 PM
like zionist HIV melons?
Inanemergencydial on June 5, 2010 at 2:26 PM
I wonder how much American taxpayers money went to fund this flotilla? We send money to every country in the world to ‘help’ them out.
L
letget on June 5, 2010 at 2:27 PM
Let’s get to the REAL point here; does he know that the profit he worships was a murderous, terrorizing, pedophile who has left his followers an open ended commandment to conquer the entire world for his moondemon god with the sword if necessary?????
cjk on June 5, 2010 at 2:34 PM
I’m sure it is all just a big misunderstanding. He isn’t really a member, and if he is, he didn’t mean to be. And he didn’t really give or solicit funds, and if he did, he didn’t mean for those funds to be spent on anything, you know, provocative. So, in summation, he isn’t and he didn’t, but if you have the pictures and/or the paper trail, then maybe he is and he did, but he wasn’t really, and he didn’t mean to.
And besides, it is the Jooooos who are making all this stuff up to smear him and to sabotage the plans for the 15 story mosque he wants to build at Ground Zero to promote peace and mutual respect and stuff on the graves of thousands of innocents slaughtered by terrorists in the name of his faith and his political ideology, Islam.
novaculus on June 5, 2010 at 2:35 PM
Speaking of the proposed mosque in NYC, there will be a demonstration against it tomorrow there. Should be interesting to see if there is a counter-protest.
Del Dolemonte on June 5, 2010 at 2:36 PM
About that Mosque.
Islam is getting bold. Will we face them or fold to them?
BL@KBIRD on June 5, 2010 at 2:36 PM
Elvis Costello just refused to honor his contract to perform in Israel — supposedly in sympathy of the intifada.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3ZXdvN3orA
I’m sorry I got a ticket to your show in Biloxi MS two months ago EC. What is so funny about peace, love, and understanding? Maybe it has to do with your right to survival? Just guessing.
GnuBreed on June 5, 2010 at 2:38 PM
Why punish Americans by denying them life at Ground Zero? Although it is Bin Ladenites who are culpable in that attack, it is unlikely that any of the Americans and other foreign nationals that died at Ground Zero were responsible for any of the ills supposedly perpetrated on the Muslim world? Yet, they perished anyway.
While you are right that there is no clean division between “radical” and “liberal” camps, hence we should not be attempting to paint all Muslims as radical. We’ll do that when not all Americans are painted as worthy of death.
No mosque.
ted c on June 5, 2010 at 2:38 PM
Perhaps the healing might be reinforced if the mosque were scheduled to open on a specific, relevant date associated with the tower attacks,..oh, wait a minute,..
a capella on June 5, 2010 at 2:39 PM
Hello, I just tried to send a trackback ping with Wizbang’s standalone pinger and it still doesn’t show up here. Could you check to see if it’s there and make it visible? Thanks.
Avi Green on June 5, 2010 at 2:39 PM
I think you ALL need to “walk it back” and let the MSM do its investigative job, NOW!!
/s
Khun Joe on June 5, 2010 at 2:40 PM
Our ignorance and naivete are endless. Check out David Horowitz’s Discover the Networks. The extent and interconnectedness of the Islamic movement is there to see. We just refuse to see it. We’re at war with decapitators and supremacists and maniacs who have learned to insinuate themselves into our world in three-piece suits and oozing silky liberal goody-speak. They know how to reach our insipid collective “moral conscience.” It’s really not hard. They’re laughing among themsewlves as blind complaisant self-loathing fools like CK Macleod, whose type populates our culture from town councils to the academy to the Pentagon, swallow it up.
rrpjr on June 5, 2010 at 2:45 PM
As long as there is an “Obama Administration” you already know the answer to that one…
WhoU4 on June 5, 2010 at 2:45 PM
When will we admit we’re at war? And with whom and what?
Kenosha Kid on June 5, 2010 at 2:46 PM
It’s OBVIOUS to me that any person of the Islamic faith who is really a ‘moderate’ (and I believe that moderates are the MINORITY in the Islamic Faith) and claims to want peace wouldn’t have ever considered building a mosque there and most CERTAINLY wouldn’t have chosen to dedicate it on 9/11.
I have really had it with our ‘tolerance’… are a people really supposed to be tolerant to the point of losing their country? REALLY?
Since Islam was born is has been a violent Convert or die, kill the infidels religion. It remains so today. There is no evidence that they have had any change of heart from that. SOME, a great MINORITY, have chosen to live a softened version of Islam, but THAT is the rarity, not the norm. Others have chosen to ‘give up the radical pose to achieve the radical end’ to quote Van Jones. The evidence screams this from the housetops and yet we, meaning Americans, are bound and gagged by ‘tolerance’ and the desire to embrace all races, creeds, and colors to the point of a SUICIDE pact where Islam is concerned.
Joy on June 5, 2010 at 2:46 PM
The country needs to just split in half, it is inevitable.
tessa on June 5, 2010 at 2:48 PM
Although I think this mosque is a terrible idea, a silver lining did occur to me this morning that I wonder if anyone has mentioned yet. If there’s an important Islamic structure sited near Ground Zero, it seems that the chances of another attack in that area are reduced.
I haven’t kept up (closely) with what’s been happening in that area, but I had the impression that it has been difficult to get businesses relocate to that part of NYC and economic development/recovery has lagged there. So maybe this will act as some sort of protective dome over the area and encourage businesses and developers to invest in the neighborhood.
I still think it’s an insulting gesture, but maybe there’s a silver lining.
Y-not on June 5, 2010 at 2:48 PM
Hmmmmmm. They guy behind building a mosque at ground zero is connected to an attempt to create division between Israel and America (and the rest of the West). I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.
In Israel they fight and protest because that sets the world against Israel. Because that’s how you get things done in the Middle East. In the U.S. they schmooze and attempt to get popular & political support while silencing their critics with words like “Islamophobic.” Because that’s how you get things done in America.
Divide and conquer, eh?
29Victor on June 5, 2010 at 2:50 PM
They are emboldened by Bambi.
tessa on June 5, 2010 at 2:51 PM
I know America is a nation of tolerance, but you know..
Having the Jihadists & their sympathizers trying to put Muslim crescents on PA memorials, and then trying to build huge mosques and ‘cultural centers’ a few meters away next to ground Zero, it sort of strikes me not as tolerant – But the height of naivete in America.
You are allowing Jihadists & their sympathizers to build Islamic symbols of victory on your Jihadist created warzones & memorials!? This is what they do, they celebrate Allah and their martyrs this way..
I am outraged by this and I am not even an American! I know I am preaching to the choir here but sometimes I want to take America by the shoulders & violently shake it screaming “Wake UUUUUUUUPPPPP!!!“
saus on June 5, 2010 at 2:51 PM
since when is it we (Americans) that have to back down? Would Muslims tolerate a pole-dancing shack placed a few blocks from Mecca? How about a NASCAR track? Both pole dancers and NASCAR drivers are pretty peaceful…Surely we can’t paint all pole dancers and pole sitters with the same brush now can we? Natch, it’s just us that need to back down, let Muslim do what it wants….sure… build your damn mosque, we don’t care, yeah, do it in a place where radical Muslims killed 3K Americans…why not? Please, just keep telling us how intolerant we are considering that we are even having this discussion.
ted c on June 5, 2010 at 2:52 PM
Really? Why would you think that? They seem to take great pleasure in blowing up each other and each other’s “holy places.” And then in the Arab press they can blame it on the Joos and the Americans. Heck, they’d use the fact that Muslims got killed as evidence (in Europe and the ME) that they didn’t do it.
29Victor on June 5, 2010 at 2:52 PM
Just a matter of time. I think they are shifting their focus from well planned terrorist violence in the U.S. to insidious undermining through school boards, local politics, plus exploiting the corruption and muzzie moles at the national political level. Lots of Arabists in powerful positions right now. Dubya did us no favors with his religion of peace mumblings. They will be careful not to commit violent acts which will generate massive American outrage which would set back their long range plans.
a capella on June 5, 2010 at 2:52 PM
That’s the answer! We build mosques on every street corner in every city of America. No more attacks. No more America.
Electrongod on June 5, 2010 at 2:53 PM
Tell you what, build your mosque and let me paint a 10 x 40 ft mural on it’s front wall of Mohammed getting bent over a barrel and we’ll see who’s intolerant.
ted c on June 5, 2010 at 2:54 PM
Until there is an overwhelming sense that an overwhelming majority of Muslims are overwhelmingly against terrorism – not just committing it personally, but against supporting it
and not just *saying* they are, but *really* are – then it will continue to always be appropriate to question their motives.
Midas on June 5, 2010 at 2:54 PM
Let’s get to the REAL point here; does he know that the profit he worships was a murderous, terrorizing, pedophile who has left his followers an open ended commandment to conquer the entire world for his moondemon god with the sword if necessary?????
cjk on June 5, 2010 at 2:57 PM
You’re not alone. Check out the comments on every CK MacLeod post, and watch for MadisonConservative, Esthier, J.E. Dyer, and me (to name jut a few).
OhioCoastie on June 5, 2010 at 2:58 PM
It confounds me daily how so many American citizens are so utterly gullible about this kind of thing. We have 10′s of millions of Neville Chamberlains running amok over here, I’m afraid.
Midas on June 5, 2010 at 2:58 PM
We’re getting there. Going to be a race to the finish line. Two more elections.
a capella on June 5, 2010 at 2:59 PM
What we now have here in the US, from city councils to school boards to the Oval Office, is the functional equivilent of the Vichy Gov’t of WWII France. Designed to merely present the facade of representive gov’t, whilst in reality their role is merely to facillitate and manage an orderly hand over of our nation to our enemies.
I don’t see how the case could be any clearer, that from those who are creating legistlation through those that administer its everyday implementation, rank and file are but collaborators ith hostile forces to subvert the security of the Republic.
There is indeed a legal term that describes these kind of activities,….
…. ITS NAME IS TREASON!
In these threads it has been duly noted, ad nauseum, that the principle failure in confronting Islamo-facism nis failing to correctly identify it. The same can be said of how we carachterize those that seek neuter us from within.
Archimedes on June 5, 2010 at 3:00 PM
What if the Islamists built a bomb in the dome of this community center/Mosque? By the way, they only constitute,at the most,5 million of America’s population of almost 300 million.
kingsjester on June 5, 2010 at 3:00 PM
“Peace activists?”
In the Sixties, Martin Luther King was a peace activist and Bill Ayers was a terrorist bomber. Ayers and Dohrn are in this up to their necks.
Turkey’s PM Erdogan sponsored it too–he’s cheering on Iran’s nuke program. He’s such a “peace activist”, he just partied with the Darfurian Islamists.
Cordoba House, Muslim Brotherhood, al Qaeda–we’re all “peace activists” now!
Noel on June 5, 2010 at 3:00 PM
We’re going down.
myrenovations on June 5, 2010 at 3:01 PM
Yeah, I thought of that, but if this guy and his pals are involved in leadership positions, then I doubt they’d blow them up. Their presence (or lack thereof) at the mosque could provide useful intelligence.
Y-not on June 5, 2010 at 3:02 PM
I’m feeling distinctly intolerant right now. Perhaps it has something to do with the EFFING RAIN which won’t stop and the fact that I was planning a ride to Red Wing today.
Bishop on June 5, 2010 at 3:02 PM
Who the hell is CK MacLeod? We know who and what Feisal Abdul Rauf is…
d1carter on June 5, 2010 at 3:02 PM
Here’s the scoop on Feisal Abdul Rauf from DiscoverTheNetworks.org.
OhioCoastie on June 5, 2010 at 3:03 PM
What would be even better is if we all submit to allah and convert. That way they wouldn’t attack any place in this country.
Grow a pair Y-not.
Blake on June 5, 2010 at 3:04 PM
Unexpectedly …
tarpon on June 5, 2010 at 3:05 PM
I don’t think this is a silver lining. They thrive on being martyrs to Allah so they would love it if they could sacrifice their mosque to the cause.
Someone else mentioned that they are taking over using school boards etc. YES, they are attempting to take us over from within. And they will use ‘religious tolerance’ to cow us and beat us about the head with it. Don’t we all know that THEY ARE NOT TOLERANT?? When there are enough of them they will simply rise up and SQUASH us. I’m just stunned an amazed that so many people can be so blind and so ambivalent to what is happening.
Joy on June 5, 2010 at 3:06 PM
Hey, scroow you, Blake.
There is nothing in anything I have posted that suggests that I think we should kow-tow to these guys. It is completely clear to anyone with a 5th grade reading level that I accept that this mosque is intended as an insult (or worse) and that the guy in question is linked to terrorism.
Y-not on June 5, 2010 at 3:09 PM
I’m thinking that a simple mosque wouldn’t deter an attack anywhere in the world. Jihadis slaughter whomever stands in their way and have never hesitated to kill other muslims on pilgrimage, in mosques, at funerals, during prayer, etc.
Like liberals, Jihadis bend and break their own rules when necessary.
Bishop on June 5, 2010 at 3:10 PM
A moral relativist member of the Green Room that delights in condescendingly berating the commenter community of HA as Islamophobic bigots that aren’t nearly as culturally sensitive as him.
I just can’t wait to hear his response to all this. I’m guessing he takes the Ron Paul/paleocon response that the blockade is persecuting the Gazans.
MadisonConservative on June 5, 2010 at 3:12 PM
I have been saying this for over a year now. i believe also it is inevitable.
But first i am afraid there will be civil war.
jsunrise on June 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM
Clearly with the liberal infestation that plagues this nation we are in for a rough ride in the near future, combined with their jihadi masters they are determined to destroy the fruit of so much sacrifice.
I have other choice things to say but have been admonished as to the use.
Viper1 on June 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM
These “liberal” muslims or “non-radical” muslims sure are a quiet bunch aren’t they? Either they don’t exist, or they’re like fricking church mice, er.. mosque mice when it comes to denouncing these jacka$$ blockade runners that should be serving up as mediterranean chum…
ted c on June 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM
Let’s go 1 for 1. Mosque in NYC, 15story Christian church in Mecca.
Deal?
natch
ted c on June 5, 2010 at 3:15 PM
“…The problem is, Islam isn’t divided cleanly into “radical” and “liberal” camps, with Osama emblematic of the first camp and, say, Dr. Zuhdi Jasser (who, incidentally, opposes the Ground Zero mosque) emblematic of the other. It’s a spectrum, which includes true jihadis, who are willing to commit violence; those who support them morally (and financially) but are unwilling to commit violence themselves; those who oppose violence but nonetheless believe in Islamic supremacy; those who believe civil law should be supreme but nonetheless condone various forms of cultural self-isolation; and of course truly assimilated, liberal Muslims like Jasser, who risks his life every day speaking out against the scum on the other end.”
Very nice breakdown, but I would make two points:
1) The radicals are “liberal Muslims like Jasser”. They are the ones who depart from the original framework of Islam, which is not merely religious but a totalitarian socio-religious order. bin Laden and his terrorist ilk and their supporters are reactionaries who resist the reformation of Islam in any way and insist on enforcing it in its original and purest form.
2) The essential division of Muslims on the scale set out above is between those who recognize the supremacy of civil law, (i.e., secular authority, the separation of church and state, and, by extension, equality under the law and individual civil rights) and those who support an Islamist caliphate under Shari’a law (a brutal, misogynistic, discriminatory religious totalitarianism that includes slavery among its social institutions). The latter group are Islamists. All Islamists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are Islamists.
Distinguishing Islamists from religious Muslims can be very problematic. Islamists believe they have a religious duty to deceive the infidels if it advances their agenda or protects them. So Islamists have every reason to pose as “liberal Muslims” or anything other than what they are.
So I think the problem isn’t drawing a line, the problem is figuring out on which side of the line a Muslim stands.
novaculus on June 5, 2010 at 3:22 PM
What? You mean like how Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia slaughtered thousands of Iraqi Muslims that they believed were working with the US?
The people who attacked us have no compunction about destroying their own.
MadisonConservative on June 5, 2010 at 3:24 PM
Lucky for us, CK can’t delete these comments like he does in the Green Room. All he can do here is whine.
OhioCoastie on June 5, 2010 at 3:26 PM
AQ would never attack a mosque. Seriously.
http://www.echostudiochicago.com/learn/images/golden-mosque-bombed.jpg
D’oh!
Kenosha Kid on June 5, 2010 at 3:26 PM
I miss Bush and Reagan. They knew how to draw a line in the sand. Obama funneled money to Hamas from our budget.
He is the enabler.
seven on June 5, 2010 at 3:27 PM
“For it.”
exception on June 5, 2010 at 3:30 PM
As per my earlier post, I have a proposal.
In a war of ideas and ideologies we all know the importance of symbolism and association. I would like a meme, a narative if you like, of when discussing the Obama administration we begin to refer to as the Vichy Gov’t.
Most everyone is aware of who and what they were and it encapsulates the essence of what we are looking at today. It also not so subtley illustrates suggests, what in the end, may be our only recourse.
Just as Teh One has become slang jargon for Barack Hussein Obama, once something starts regularly appearing in one thread it is not long before it spreads to others, gets picked up in our everyday day lexicon, think pwnd as an apt exaample.
Feedback?
Archimedes on June 5, 2010 at 3:31 PM
Let me be clear, CK is a RINO hack writer and this Imam Rauf character is a pucking fig.
I hope they’re both offended.
pugwriter on June 5, 2010 at 3:32 PM
Ah, the kill us last defense.
If the Cordoba Initiative actually tried to pursue the agenda on their website, they would be the initial focus of attacks from hardline Muslims. Whichever way it goes, it has declared itself on the frontline of the West vs. Islam and so will be a focus of pushing the limits. We can expect more provocations like on the Gaza flotilla.
pedestrian on June 5, 2010 at 3:32 PM
First Baptist Church in Mecca! Where do I send my donations?
Last week the tennessean.com ran an article about a proposed mosque being built in Franklin, TN. The out-cry from the locals was huge and the developers of the mosque pulled out.
TN Mom on June 5, 2010 at 3:39 PM
Yep. Obama sent almost $1 Billion if I remember correctly, just after he became president. Did we ever know what was in the note to Obama that Hammas slipped to John Kerry?
TN Mom on June 5, 2010 at 3:42 PM
LOL!
FloatingRock on June 5, 2010 at 3:45 PM
Bush gave Muslims moral support with his religion of peace mantra. His PC approach gave them footing and a voice in the government. How can you tell a radical Muslim from a moderate? You can’t. AP laid it out well above.
a capella on June 5, 2010 at 3:47 PM
Building a Mosque at the WTC site is the biggest insult-the equivalent of planting a full-scale model of Japanese Zero aircraft atop the Arizona Memorial. (but first we have to change the name of the Arizona Memorial to the ‘Undocumented Aliens Memorial’ or LA County will boycott it.)But, in the end, Da One’s head-in-the sand attitude toward Iran’s nukes will make this all irrelevant. The hole in the ground which used to be Manhattan can be renamed OBAMA.
MaiDee on June 5, 2010 at 3:56 PM
Doesn’t our whole strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan hinge on identifying and relying on moderate Muslims?
dedalus on June 5, 2010 at 3:59 PM
Small potatoes.
The President of the United States is part of a group that wants to exterminate Israel.
Tav on June 5, 2010 at 4:05 PM
Becoming clearer every day. CK and sockpuppet audiliscious to defend in 3…2..
Inanemergencydial on June 5, 2010 at 4:07 PM
Which just goes to show that Petreaus and McChrystal should be locked up in a mental institution.
Tav on June 5, 2010 at 4:07 PM
Never give a sockpuppet to a man who can’t dance.
Tav on June 5, 2010 at 4:10 PM
The “radical” cuts off your head while the “moderate” praises Allah.
Tav on June 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM
Funny how when you take an FBI list of known terrorist supporters and a list of the heads of all the known Islamic rights groups and charities, they pretty much coincide.
tommyboy on June 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM
Sometime before 732 AD.
Tav on June 5, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Not surprising all of these groups are connected in one way are another.All one big rats nest.
thmcbb on June 5, 2010 at 4:22 PM
Apparently…
… some people have yet to realize who we are fighting.
Seven Percent Solution on June 5, 2010 at 4:22 PM
Yeah, I know.
(CK is the antithesis of Doctor Zero.)
Disturb the Universe on June 5, 2010 at 4:23 PM
Seven Percent Solution on June 5, 2010 at 4:22 PM
West 2012
Disturb the Universe on June 5, 2010 at 4:31 PM
I would donate one of my bikes directly to Allen West if he would run for POTUS. He can pick which one.
Bishop on June 5, 2010 at 4:32 PM
Works for me.
Although Mussolini Gov’t or Ceausescu Gov’t would also work as they had particularly happy endings.
Tav on June 5, 2010 at 4:32 PM
The secret simply will not keep
For America is losing sleep
It’s time to break the spell
Who is Allen West and what is he up to, do tell?
Rumor has it he’s a cannoneer
He’s a reckless buccaneer
I hear he carries several guns with many clips
He’s the annihilator of Islam creeps with information on their lying at his fingertips
They say he’s nearly seven feet tall
And yet quite graceful…all in all
I’m told there are lightning bolts when he walks
And thunder when he talks
Is he vulgarian or sleek?
Just what does he seek?
I hear he’s steely as you please
I hear he’s really Japanese
He may be shrewd
He may be rude
Ah well, it’s hard to tell
Who is this Allen West, do tell?
The Muslims may think he comes from hell
But he may come from somewhere just around the dell
But he will be here and he will be there
You could see him giving Islam Hell most any time and most anywhere
He meddles with the Islamic Devolution
Stomping them mightily throughout each week
Spoiling every Imam’s lying elocution
La, what cheek!
PercyB on June 5, 2010 at 4:37 PM
Although Mussolini Gov’t or Ceausescu Gov’t would also work as they had particularly happy endings.
Tav on June 5, 2010 at 4:32 PM
Appropriate yes, but hardly rolls off the tongue, or the keyboard for that matter.
Archimedes on June 5, 2010 at 4:38 PM
Where did that 900 million dollar federal aid to Gaza really go?
Americannodash on June 5, 2010 at 4:40 PM
Half my bank account, willingly.
MadisonConservative on June 5, 2010 at 4:43 PM
PercyB on June 5, 2010 at 4:37 PM
If heaven is a brothel for bombers and beheaders
I will be much happier in Hell
I guess that makes me an infidel
:)
Disturb the Universe on June 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM
The groups in italics make up at least 70% of Muslims according to polls cited in Andy McCarthy’s “The Grand Jihad.”
And Zudhi Jasser, while seemingly sincere, has yet to explain the many violent, misogynist and bigoted passages in the Qur’an, and just mumbles about the beautiful aspects of the religion he has known all his life. He frequently enjoins the worn-out claim that “the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful,” yet his group, founded seven years ago, has fewer than 100 members, some of whom are not even Muslim.
Had a long, thoughtful post evaporate into the censorship ether here about an hour ago. Perhaps it was too “radical.”
IrishEi on June 5, 2010 at 4:54 PM
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, a founder of the Cordoba Initiative as noted in the DiscovertheNetworks.org link, is a commenter on a PBS program currently airing called “Cities of Light: The Rise and Fall of Islamic Spain.”
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This program celebrates the conquest of the Iberian peninsula and denigrates Christian conquest or influence everywhere else, referring to it as “oppressive imperialism.” The program also explains the protection racket of Dhimmitude, where non-Islamic residents are allowed to exist in relative peace by Muslim overlords for a relatively steep payment of money to those imperialists.
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bin-Laden moans and groans in his anti-Western diatribes about the loss of Islamic Spain (Al-Andalus) after the Catholic conquest of 1491.
ExpressoBold on June 5, 2010 at 5:04 PM
Wow – so what is that, actually? 10 square miles, 50?
Only 3.5 million more square miles to go.
So, if they blow up the White House and other national monuments, they can get some big, fancy mosques on the Potomac, too?
reaganaut on June 5, 2010 at 5:08 PM
Pajamas Media had a story about the Imam on May 27, 2010- by Walid Shoebat, “Ground Zero Imam: ‘I Don’t Believe in Religious Dialogue’.
Says it all.
Fallon on June 5, 2010 at 5:13 PM
If we all convert to Islam, it seems that the chances of another attack are reduced.
Follow the above logic and it will lead here.
Disturb the Universe on June 5, 2010 at 5:21 PM
It’s simple, really. Let them build the mosque.
Sooner or later, somebody or some group (less wedded to the notion of rule-of-law than we are) will do an eye-for-an-eye on the mosque. The Islamists will howl and scream in outrage but secretly they will be clebrating the destruction of the mosque and the death of all their brothers inside.
It is their plan. They are deliberately setting up their brothers to be killed so that they can manipulate our culture of life into guilt over the deaths. They are the culture of death so the deaths of hundreds has no effect on them. They certainly have no regret.
Strategic victories that advance the mission, by any means. Unless we fight them as they fight us, we are doomed.
platypus on June 5, 2010 at 5:41 PM
When we can build a church in Mecca, we an build a mosque at Grand Zero.
PattyJ on June 5, 2010 at 5:42 PM
If they build this I’ll NEVER go back to NY ever again, and I was born in NY and my son lives there!
This is an absolute outrage and slap in the face!
*SPITS*
Liberty or Death on June 5, 2010 at 5:45 PM
A top adviser to President Obama is the contact person within the White House for communications with the Free Gaza Movement over plans to challenge Israel’s blockade of the terrorist Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, according to a reputable source close to the Netanyahu government.
The source, a career official whose reliability was established through his tips for the book, “Why Israel Can’t Wait,” identified John O. Brennan, deputy national security adviser for homeland security and counterterrorism, as the contact.
The allegation raises the bizarre possibility that the Free Gaza Movement’s flotilla action in the Mediterranean was being coordinated with the White House, something that would align with a shift in U.S. policy toward Israel being debated within the Obama administration.
Tav on June 5, 2010 at 5:48 PM
This is what Bush thought when he was trying to secretly do the ports deal with the Muslims. He thought that if Muslims had a big financial stake in America that they would be less inclined to attack it. Why Bush would think the Gulf Arabs had that much pull on the “terrorists” is a mystery isn’t it? A big thanks goes to Lou Dobbs who shone sunshine on it and it withered. Now in my opinion both you and Bush are mistaken in your approaches to appease the enemy. At the moment and for awhile, things will only get worse in very many places around the world. A change in government means nothing if they have the same approach as the Bush years. Just more confusion and less collaboration. The person who can deal with this has not emerged from anywhere yet. Darkness before the dawn and all that crap.
BL@KBIRD on June 5, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Well, Allahpundit, it’s jes’ fine to question someone’s motivation any old time.
You trotting out a really weak chain of names in one of them there attempts to play guilt by association on Rauf because you have nothing anywhere near to showing impropriety on Rauf’s own part leads me to question your motivation.
Is it ignorance or merely disregard of logic and justice that motivates you?
Are you an enemy of America, a second-rate McCarthyite, or just a real nice guy that’s real, real confused?
audiculous on June 5, 2010 at 6:07 PM
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