Helen Thomas: Go home to Europe, Jews

posted at 4:10 pm on June 4, 2010 by Allahpundit

Tony Snow once accused her of stating “the Hezbollah view” in her questions during the Israel/Lebanon war. Little did he know how right he was. Or maybe he did know: Watching this, it occurred to me that an 89-year-old reporter who’s moved in elite D.C. circles for decades has probably let slip her preference for Judenrein in the Holy Land once or twice whilst among colleagues. And yet, if she’s suffered even a single repercussion for it, it’s news to me. Such is the state of the left that one of their journalistic patron saints can spend years during the press briefings belching up anti-Israel propaganda and inveighing against a “deliberate massacre” that hasn’t even been investigated yet and, aside from a few righty blogs, no one bats an eye. I’ll be surprised if even this ode to a one-state “solution” draws much heat. If, as the world’s intelligentsia insists with varying degrees of candor, Israel is the basic problem in the region, what could be more logical than Helen wanting to excise it? That’s how you treat tumors, isn’t it?

Speaking of which. To put this in proper context for you, compare these comments from the grand dame of the D.C. press corps to those of another prominent critic of Israel offered five years ago. The Hezbollah view indeed:

Iran’s hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that if Germany and Austria feel responsible for massacring Jews during World War II, a state of Israel should be established on their soil…

“You oppressed them, so give a part of Europe to the Zionist regime so they can establish any government they want. We would support it,” he said, according to a transcript of his original Farsi-language comments given to AFP.

“So, Germany and Austria, come and give one, two or any number of your provinces to the Zionist regime so they can create a country there which all of Europe will support and the problem will be solved at its root,” he said.

“Why do they insist on imposing themselves on other powers and creating a tumour so there is always tension and conflict?”

Some of you will want to e-mail the White House or Hearst after watching to demand that she be kicked out of the daily briefings going forward. Resist the urge. Drudge has picked up the video so the powers-that-be will surely see it. If, absent public pressure forcing them to act, they’re untroubled by it, then fine. Let her sit there and ask her questions, and whenever you see her onscreen, take it as a reminder that there really are ideological tumors growing out there.


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That woman is truly as ugly as her ideology.

Reality Checker on June 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Who does this woman work for and where do we complain to her boss?

Why doesn’t the White House revoke her credentials to come to the White House?

albill on June 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM

You know, I was under the impression that the Jews already were home…

I mean, thousands of years of inhabiting that particular stretch of land would lead me to believe that… silly me.

I guess it’s pretty easy to forget history when the Left plans to rewrite it anyways…

Neo-con Artist on June 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM

What is God for 1,000,000,000,000 Alex?

This is along the lines of the same type of crap the Nazi apologists used to justify their anti-Semitic beliefs.

xax on June 4, 2010 at 5:30 PM

You’re kidding, right? God is the answer to a nation’s right to exist? Seriously?

So, why can’t a Muslim prophet be used as justification for whatever terrorists do? You’re placing one belief system over another. And they’re equally plausible. In fact, the very thing our founding fathers tried to establish in the country. The right to worship as one sees fit without the government forcing you to worship in a way it sees fit.

As soon as you point to God as the justification for a political argument, you’ve just disagreed with the basic principles of what this nation was founded upon.

ButterflyDragon on June 4, 2010 at 5:38 PM

Why doesn’t the White House revoke her credentials to come to the White House?

albill on June 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Because those in the White House, agree with her.

capejasmine on June 4, 2010 at 5:39 PM

What is your “final solution” for the Israeli State?

portlandon on June 4, 2010 at 5:27 PM

Glad you asked.

I’ve always been of the opinion that both the US and the Jews/citizens of Israel would have been better off if, in 1947, we had dismantled Jerusalem brick-by-brick, shipped it over to the US, re-assembled it here (in Utah, or maybe New Mexico… after all, the god of Israel is a desert god), carved out some good land for them here, and let them flourish, while letting the Middle East continue heading downhill.

I’m not sure it still wouldn’t be cost efficient to do so now.

We have put a lamb down in the middle of a pack of jackyls and lions, and committed to defending that lamb until end times. Are you really telling me you don’t see this as ending in failure?

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:39 PM

Yes it does, if there were a sufficient number of Native Americans doing so.

ddrintn on June 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM

So you agree with La Raza’s efforts for Mexicans to retake the American Southwest?

ButterflyDragon on June 4, 2010 at 5:41 PM

We’ve supported Haiti in years past as well, and they continue to live on poverty, and under dictators. Israel at least would come to our defense, and we to hers. Haiti…not so much, yet we continue to fund Haiti.

capejasmine on June 4, 2010 at 5:36 PM

if I had my druthers, I’d defund that basket case long before Israel.

That still isn’t, in and of itself, justification for funding Israel.

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Resist the urge.

Isn’t that what they said to all the those that were upset with the treatment of the Jews in Germany in the 1930s and onward? – Just ignore it, don’t complain.

albill on June 4, 2010 at 5:42 PM

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:05 PM

Interesting argument. Do you really believe that you can base every decision on an economic cost-benefit analysis especially of the nature we are discussing?

chemman on June 4, 2010 at 5:42 PM

The spiritual darkness in this comment thread is astounding.

Inanemergencydial on June 4, 2010 at 5:43 PM

It is amazing that someone can have black hair while her face is quickly sliding off her skull.

Star20 on June 4, 2010 at 4:18 PM

It’s the same ability that Paul McCarney has with his silken brown tresses.

onlineanalyst on June 4, 2010 at 5:43 PM

Good Lord, Helen Thomas is in a 1937 Time-Warp as
a Dinosour!!

canopfor on June 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Since when does any country have to prove that it has a “right to exist”, and why are you singling out Israel as not having one?

DKCZ on June 4, 2010 at 5:32 PM

Israel is the topic of the thread. I’d be just as happy to have the same discussion about France, which I suspect would fail the test worse than Israel.

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM

As soon as you point to God as the justification for a political argument, you’ve just disagreed with the basic principles of what this nation was founded upon.

ButterflyDragon on June 4, 2010 at 5:38 PM

Like “they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.” I’m not for pointing solely to the Old Testament to justify the existence of Israel, but come on.

ddrintn on June 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Helen Thomas’s pointless life is so low that all other lots she envies. Fame of her the world hath none. Mercy and Justice both scorn her. Ignore her, look ahead and pass her by.
(Dante Alighieri, Inferno, Canto III)

Tav on June 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM

So you agree with La Raza’s efforts for Mexicans to retake the American Southwest?

ButterflyDragon on June 4, 2010 at 5:41 PM

What are your grounds for objecting to it? Some sort of absolute ownership of land in perpetuity?

ddrintn on June 4, 2010 at 5:45 PM

As soon as you point to God as the justification for a political argument, you’ve just disagreed with the basic principles of what this nation was founded upon.

ButterflyDragon on June 4, 2010 at 5:38 PM

You mean basic principles like being endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, like the right to life (which I was assuming was the point of referencing God)?

Esthier on June 4, 2010 at 5:46 PM

helent@hearstdc.com

what a whackadoo

reshas1 on June 4, 2010 at 5:46 PM

forgive me for delaying any responses. I’ve got to see a sick father in the hospital. Be back when I can. I’d like to continue the discussion, with some of you at least :)

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:46 PM

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:39 PM

Israel is no lamb… unless lambs now have nuclear weapons? They are going to keep pushing Israel until one day its going to be 1967 all over again, this time with more radioactive craters in places like Tehran, Damascus, and Istanbul.

Wolftech on June 4, 2010 at 5:46 PM

I’ve never seen a human turtle before!

Key West Reader on June 4, 2010 at 5:47 PM

bravo AP…

Kaptain Amerika on June 4, 2010 at 5:48 PM

I’ve got to see a sick father in the hospital.

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Sorry to hear that. Hope you can make him feel a little better.

Esthier on June 4, 2010 at 5:49 PM

After the suffering of WWII, and the fact that the Jews had nowhere to go, I agree that the UN (USA included) made the right decision. The Jews had nowhere to go. They were given the land that they originated from.

portlandon

You are correct, but many of the Jews weren’t “given” the land. Many thousands purchased it at a more than fair price for the desert sh*thole land that the Arabs hadn’t done anything with. The Jews then irrigated and made the land beautiful, lush olive and lemon groves. No wonder the “Palestinians” want it now after all the development is done.

JAM on June 4, 2010 at 5:51 PM

Eichmann 1937: You people should go back where you came from – Palestine.

Thomas 2010: You people should go back where you came from – Germany.

forest on June 4, 2010 at 5:51 PM

Glad you asked.

I’ve always been of the opinion that both the US and the Jews/citizens of Israel would have been better off if, in 1947, we had dismantled Jerusalem brick-by-brick, shipped it over to the US, re-assembled it here (in Utah, or maybe New Mexico… after all, the god of Israel is a desert god), carved out some good land for them here, and let them flourish, while letting the Middle East continue heading downhill.

I’m not sure it still wouldn’t be cost efficient to do so now.

We have put a lamb down in the middle of a pack of jackyls and lions, and committed to defending that lamb until end times. Are you really telling me you don’t see this as ending in failure?

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:39 PM

I’ve always suspected it would have cost Americans and Jews far less in terms of both blood and treasure if we’d given them a new homeland somewhere in the US. Maybe even carve out a new state that answered to the government in only the most basic ways.

Imagine if the decades of murderous tit-for-tat had never happened. Imagine if the US wasn’t constantly committed to propping up a postage-stamp nation to the infuriation of millions. Imagine if we weren’t making a mockery of freedom and justice by supporting a nation that bulldozed houses, dumped cement down wells, and censored information in ways that would make us scream to the heavens if the same happened to us.

When I think of all the grief we could have avoided, I want to weep for my nation. But when I remember, once again, that we have no intention of resolving our mistake in a logical manner…I descend into despair.

Dark-Star on June 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Helen Pugface has an opinion about the Jews.

1. I don’t care.
2. Civility and decorum notwithstanding, this is a butt ugly woman.
3. What were we talking about?
4. I don’t care.

swede7 on June 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Glad you asked.

I’ve always been of the opinion that both the US and the Jews/citizens of Israel would have been better off if, in 1947, we had dismantled Jerusalem brick-by-brick, shipped it over to the US, re-assembled it here (in Utah, or maybe New Mexico… after all, the god of Israel is a desert god), carved out some good land for them here, and let them flourish, while letting the Middle East continue heading downhill.

I’m not sure it still wouldn’t be cost efficient to do so now.

We have put a lamb down in the middle of a pack of jackyls and lions, and committed to defending that lamb until end times. Are you really telling me you don’t see this as ending in failure?

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:39 PM

The United States of 1947 had no interest in letting many Jews into the country. More to the point, you join the anti-Israel conspiracy theorists in perceiving Israel as somehow being a creation of the United States. Aside from US support in 1947 for the UN’s second partition of the British colony of Palestine, the United States did absolutely nothing to support Israel until 1964. The State of Israel was created by the work and determination of the Zionist movement beginning over half a century before independence in 1948 and preserved by Israel being victorious in two major wars before the US ever supported it (then only to counterbalance Soviet support to Egypt, Syria, and Iraq) and a third major war before the US began to donate the aid to Israel that you decry (again to counterbalance Soviet actions). I can’t say that the US would be worse off if it took in 6 million Israeli Jews, but the Israelis have their own state in the historical homeland of the Jews and they intend to keep it.

DKCZ on June 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM

That thing works for Hearst

The “Hearst Newspaper Group” employs Helen Thomas. The Group’s main phone # is……………. 212-649-2177……………call and protest her crazy anti-Semite statements.

HATE SPEECH

nondhimmie on June 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM

To quote The Zohan “Yes because my people never stepped foot in this land before today”

Talk about revisionist history, where did the jewish people originate from? Brazil?

Rbastid on June 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM

It could be worse…

… she could be sitting on your face.

Seven Percent Solution on June 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Hope you don’t mind but will be praying for a speedy recovery.

chemman on June 4, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Dark-Star on June 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM

How naive. So instead of focusing on Israel as its main enemy, Islam could have turned its focus on the West. The world would indeed be different, but not in a good way. I suspect that it would truly be Jihad vs Crusade and millions more than have died in that small area would die world wide on Mohammad’s sword.

Wolftech on June 4, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Just Wow,but on the other hand,using Helen Thomas as a
yardstick,or guage,it appears that Liberal Brainwashing
and Indoctrination goes back about 60 to 70 years,in which,
that is the amount of years that are F’k Uped,and so,therein
lies hope!!

Once these Old Liberal Socialist’s are gone,there is a chan
ce to correct the brainwashing of this b*sterdized History
revisionist crap,however,the schools have to be cleaned out
of the liars and propagandists ,like Ayers and Dhorns as an
example!!!

And,Israel’s home is where its at,for over thousands of year
s,she was invaded and won back many times over!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on June 4, 2010 at 5:57 PM

I’ve always suspected it would have cost Americans and Jews far less in terms of both blood and treasure if we’d given them a new homeland somewhere in the US. Maybe even carve out a new state that answered to the government in only the most basic ways.

Um, It’s about the land. Location, location, location. Do you know what Zion is? Promised Land? Arab peoples and Israel can both make an historic and religious claim on that ugly little plot of land, and always will. It is a sacred place to them.

swede7 on June 4, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Seven Percent Solution on June 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Are you trying to give us all nightmares for life.

chemman on June 4, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Israel is the topic of the thread. I’d be just as happy to have the same discussion about France, which I suspect would fail the test worse than Israel.

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM

This doesn’t explain why a country has to prove a right to exist. If you think that Israel and France should be denied a right to exist, then you might as well say that every country should be denied a right to exist. This is meaningless.

DKCZ on June 4, 2010 at 5:59 PM

I can only thank God (the creator of the being she worships: SATAN) that I won’t be around her, because I cannot be around Helen Thomas.

If I was around her, after hearing this, I would hurt her.

Remember; like a guy told Jerry Seinfeld after his racist buddy Mike Richards made his anti-black tirade in a comedy club and Seinfeld refused to even be critical: people that hate blacks don’t tend to like Jews, either. Remember this statement, people, when some liberal tells you how Conservatives are racist and bigots. Remember this footage when some lib tells you how much George Bush hated black people and try using Hurricane Katrina as proof of this, or Capitalism, as proof, in and of itself.

Helen Thomas hates Jews, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see she has a pretty hard spot in her ugly, old heart for uppity n—ers, too, coming from a hard right black Conservative. This goes for Couric, Matthews, Olberman, Rather, Williams, Maddow and all the rest of their ilk. You have been warned.

Virus-X on June 4, 2010 at 6:00 PM

We have put a lamb down in the middle of a pack of jackyls and lions, and committed to defending that lamb until end times.

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:39 PM

I would hardly call Israel a lamb. Their century’s of getting kicked around have taught them to stop being victims and be proactive in their fighting to exist.

Israel has won every engagement they have ever fought against the filthy Hamas crowds. We could not have a better friend Israel, and the same goes for them not having a better friend than the US.

Are you really telling me you don’t see this as ending in failure?

It’s lasted 62 years.

Where was the United States 60 years after it’s independence?

United States 1830′s:

December 9 1835– The Army of the Republic of Texas captures San Antonio.

December 28 1835 – The Second Seminole War breaks out. Seminole fighter Osceola and his warriors attack government agent Thompson outside Fort King in central Florida.

October 30 1831 – In Southampton County, Virginia, escaped slave Nat Turner is captured and arrested for leading the bloodiest slave revolt in United States history.

June 11 1837 – The Broad Street Riot occurs in Boston, Massachusetts, fueled by ethnic tensions between the Irish and the Yankees.

I think Israel has done amazingly well for its youth as a nation.

portlandon on June 4, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Are you trying to give us all nightmares for life.

chemman on June 4, 2010 at 5:58 PM

It’s the little things in life that make it all worth while…

:O)

Seven Percent Solution on June 4, 2010 at 6:00 PM

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:25 PM

You’re arguing, it seems, on the assumption that there’s an option to just pick up and move. That’s not the endgame here, we’re not trying to prevent relocation, we’re trying to prevent extermination.

We’re also paying Israel to keep the attention of bloodthirsty radical regimes. While those regimes continue to expand elsewhere, they are expending a HUGE amount of blood and treasure on Israel. That’s blood and treasure that would be expended elsewhere if Israel just became “palestine,” and I’m not talking about social programs.

That is a HUGE benefit for us and a HUGE risk the Israelis take. Not that they really have an option, they’re surrounded by people who want them dead whether we help them or not.

As to your “amoral policy,” that’s an argument people will have forever, but ultimately even the most mathematical decision has a “why” behind it. Without a moral component to your decisions, you will rapidly end up in a place defined by “any means necessary” or its inverse, without allies and with rapidly shrinking choices.

Those messy “moral” decisions are how we end up where we WANT to be rather than always seeming to find ourselves where we HAVE to be.

Merovign on June 4, 2010 at 6:00 PM

“Why does the Jews stays, my precious?!! …GOLLUM! GOLLUM!

Daddy-O on June 4, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Glad you asked.

I’ve always been of the opinion that both the US and the Jews/citizens of Israel would have been better off if, in 1947, we had dismantled Jerusalem brick-by-brick, shipped it over to the US, re-assembled it here (in Utah, or maybe New Mexico… after all, the god of Israel is a desert god), carved out some good land for them here, and let them flourish, while letting the Middle East continue heading downhill.

I’m not sure it still wouldn’t be cost efficient to do so now.

We have put a lamb down in the middle of a pack of jackyls and lions, and committed to defending that lamb until end times. Are you really telling me you don’t see this as ending in failure?

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:39 PM

This is utter nonsense. “We” didn’t put any “lamb” anywhere. Jews returned to Israel on their own over a century before Israel was reborn.

Israel defended itself in 1948 against all the “jackals” with practically no help. Israel then defended itself in 1956, at which point the US actually intervened against Israel’s alliance with the UK and France.

In 1967 the “lambs” once again fought off the “jackals”, without US support. It was only in 1968 once Israel had already won that the US decided to “ally” it.

Israel got the atomic bomb in collaboration with the French way before the US ever allied Israel. Israel won it’s hardest wars before the US allied Israel.

And Israel was just fine with it’s UK-French alliance before the US torpedoed it.

US foreign aid to Israel is a token pittance. M16s and bullets. They have their own guns, their own tanks, and were going to have their own fighter jets until the US refused to sell them jet-engines to protect the US aerospace industry from that competition. You seem to have this idea that Israel is only there because we “put them there” and they only exist because we “defend them”. Israel is more then capable of defending itself and always has.

The US provides diplomatic support for the most part. It shields it from insane UN resolutions. Even then US support has at times wavered, such as during the condemnation of Israel after it bombed the Iraqi OSIRAK reactor.

You call yourself John Galt, so you will understand what I mean by the following:

Check your premises.

ebrawer on June 4, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Absolutely DISGUSTING!

Do these creatures not even remember as far back as 1939? Is that how far we’ve “progressed” that our so-called “leaders” and their boot-licking followers have perverted history to the point that in a span of 70 years we deny these atrocities and act like it won’t happen again when it is (in fact) happening right before our very eyes??!

F*CK you Helen, you pathetic beast aand all your anti-semite ilk

“The things I saw beggar description…The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were…overpowering…I made the visit deliberately in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to ‘propaganda’” – Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower

Flyboy on June 4, 2010 at 6:06 PM

Wolftech on June 4, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Yes, because in the ~2000 years that Israel hasn’t existed, Islam has constantly been a life-threatening menace to all of Western society.

Truely dedicated extremists are quite capable of multitasking, wingnut armchair general. They managed to hit us on our own soil just fine despite Israel’s existance and several other (though much smaller) proxy wars.

The only reason we aren’t getting beaten to the canvas now (especially after 0blahma’s election) is because it’s likely just a matter of time before we collapse from internal rot and they know it darn well.

Dark-Star on June 4, 2010 at 6:07 PM

That is one fugly broad.

Hilts on June 4, 2010 at 6:11 PM

US foreign aid to Israel is a token pittance.
ebrawer on June 4, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Really? Then they’d lose nothing by our withdrawing said aid…right? The US is massively in debt, we need all the money we can spare, lets start there then.

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 6:11 PM

The Good Lord told Jews exactly where they should be, and it ain’t Germany.

runner on June 4, 2010 at 4:43 PM
I sure as hell hope we are not now basing our foreign policy decisions on biblical interpretations.

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 4:45 PM

When we have representatives in our State Department refer to Jerusalem as Al Quds, the Muslim name for the city, then get back to us.

onlineanalyst on June 4, 2010 at 6:12 PM

I’ll pray for her…umm, as in that song ‘I pray for you’ – Jaron and the Long Way to Love….(evil sneer : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atBg9zLI2bA

jimver on June 4, 2010 at 6:12 PM

Helen Thomas was both created and perpetuated by the MSM. Based on physiognomy alone, this woman is the devil’s spawn. But, looking at her capabilities more scientifically, there is a modicum of talent present-best job fit being cleaning lavatories.

MaiDee on June 4, 2010 at 6:14 PM

I like the idea of relocating Israel to the American southwest. I propose the new Israel be 60 miles wide and stretch from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico. I suspect the illegal immigration issue would be resolved at the same time.

in_awe on June 4, 2010 at 6:14 PM

The US is massively in debt, we need all the money we can spare, lets start there then.

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Lol. When pigs fly…or we go flat broke and our economy collapses.

Whichever comes first.

Dark-Star on June 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM

If you guys don’t think having a stable democracy as an ally in the Middle East is vital to our national interest, and worth defending and supporting, you have been sippin the Cool Aid. Clue to you.

swede7 on June 4, 2010 at 6:17 PM

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Your WAY too late to antagonize on this thread Ernesto.

portlandon on June 4, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Ed, Don’t EVAH use this picture of The Madam again without a GRAPHIC WARNING! I almost dailed 911 for cardiac arrest.

CynicalOptimist on June 4, 2010 at 6:22 PM

Why do Jews keep voting Democrat?
PatriotRider on June 4, 2010 at 4:18 PM

I don’t.

Irritable Pundit on June 4, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Really? Then they’d lose nothing by our withdrawing said aid…right? The US is massively in debt, we need all the money we can spare, lets start there then.

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 6:11 PM

How about just stopping the increase of spending at home…aren’t you the one today who thought since Hamas was smuggling in arms, why not just not stop the ships and make it easier to get weapons to destroy Israel….you know, they get them anyway so you might as well make it easier for them…yeah, you are a real political genius…

right2bright on June 4, 2010 at 6:24 PM

I’m curious… what do you say is the source of Israel’s right to exist?

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 4:44 PM

May 14, 1948

In November 1947, the United Nations voted in favor of the partition of Palestine, proposing the creation of a Jewish state, an Arab state, and a UN-administered Jerusalem. Partition was accepted by Zionist leaders but rejected by Arab leaders, leading to civil war. Israel declared independence on 14 May 1948 and neighboring Arab states attacked the next day.

Israel has been at war since the day after it declared independence.

portlandon on June 4, 2010 at 4:56 PM

I believe the point is when Israel declared its independence as the source for its right to exist.

I would add that Israel has bent over backwards to honor the enlightened idea that a decent respect to the opinions of mankind require that they should declare the causes which impel them to their existence, security, safety and happiness. No other nation on the planet is expected by the rest of the world to operate at standards set so ridiculously high, simply to exist.

Saltysam on June 4, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Really? Then they’d lose nothing by our withdrawing said aid…right? The US is massively in debt, we need all the money we can spare, lets start there then.

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Correct, the “aid” is simply a subsidy to the US Defense industry.

As for starting there, considering that defense is a core function of any government, it seems like an odd place to start in a 3.5 Trillion dollar budget since it constitutes 0.00057%.

Again I’ll agree that it should eventually be ended, but arguing to start with it as if it were some sort of great priority makes no sense whatsoever.

ebrawer on June 4, 2010 at 6:26 PM

There is no longer even a hint of humor in trying to make fun of this vile despicable woman. As a journalist, she is an absolute, total disgrace. She should be barred not only from the White House Press Corps for the rest of her life, but should be banned from ever publishing a single word in any publication ever again.

Not even the Huffington Post and DailyKos would stoop as low as print anything further that this troll has to say!

pilamaye on June 4, 2010 at 6:27 PM

Why do Jews keep voting Democrat?
PatriotRider on June 4, 2010 at 4:18 PM

Dennis Pragar, I think, writes some really good articles and books on this subject.
Here is a pretty good part 1 or 2.

right2bright on June 4, 2010 at 6:28 PM

That still isn’t, in and of itself, justification for funding Israel.
–One argument for American support of Israel that could be (and is) made is that Israel constitutes a stabilizing force in a traditionally fractious part of the world. No, not the Gulf, and no, not Pakistan – that would be too far afield. But Israel’s ability to project its forces elsewhere in the region on short notice, like the Levant and if need be the Horn of Africa, is of value to Western states.

NB Israel’s peace agreements with some state neighbours and ability to otherwise intimidate nearby states that are more militantly inclined. Jordan has relied on the threat of Israeli intervention in Amman’s disagreements with Syria re: Palestinian revolts and geographic borders. This hardly amounts to lion-lays-down-with-lambs peace, but it does demonstrate the Israeli capacity to “go it alone” with US assistance or not, and it also hints at that country’s tenacity and organization in comparison to other regional models. Whatever this White House decides, Israel’s sovereignty is assured and its long-term future still bright; meanwhile the Arab nations, with notable exceptions, squabble and harangue each other as their economies stagnate and their populations simmer.

Consider Israel’s ideological roots and liberal values. It is no longer a quasi-socialist workers’ state, and in many ways only somewhat “Jewish”; it is a pluralist republic that admires the United States, (for the most part) admires liberal democracy, is well-disposed to American (and European) allies and partners, and first and foremost is politically stable. Again, with one or two notable exceptions, Arab police states do not enjoy the curious security of Israeli electoral reform or the kind of popular legitimacy that comes with Israel’s rambunctious politics.

Meanwhile the purported heavyweight of the Arab world, Egypt, relies on consistent application of Emergency Laws against the potential challenge of a popular revolt against the Mubarak regime. Syria’s Alawite “dynasty” which controls the ostensibly Pan-Arab Ba’athist Party is widely reviled in Lebanon, Israel, Iraq, and even Jordan; the politically ambitious but logistically and morally weak Syrian Army is essentially an internal police force largely incapable of defending the country from foreign invasion. Jordan’s royal family is still resented by a good portion of that country’s citizenry, approximately half of which define themselves as Palestinian. Lebanon’s republican and consociational system is laudable in theory but the Byzantine rivalries and tribalism of Lebanese society (and active interference of other states) means that arrangement is deeply flawed.

In the end, the myriad inefficiencies, frustrated radicalism and parochial self-conceptions of so many Arab governments is what makes Israel a more attractive and dependable ally in that part of the world, even as the United States attempts a balancing act between important but cumbersome Arab acquaintances (e.g. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and now Iraq) and less forced partnerships with non-Arab, “non-Muslim” states like Israel, Ethiopia, and, until very recently, Turkey.

Grunchy Cranola on June 4, 2010 at 6:29 PM

RAAAAAAACIST. What an embarrassment to the human (?) race.

Philly on June 4, 2010 at 6:31 PM

I sure as hell hope we are not now basing our foreign policy decisions on biblical interpretations.

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Worse. We are basing our foreign policy decisions on fear of Koranic interpretations.

Saltysam on June 4, 2010 at 6:32 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0AhOyWFnfM

JihadKiller1s1k on June 4, 2010 at 6:32 PM

Well, at least now I fully understand the saying: why bother putting lipstick on a pig.

JeffB. on June 4, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Long Live Israel!

JihadKiller1s1k on June 4, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Helen’s problem is she doesn’t seem to understand the Israelis are where they came from. She should return to Lebanon and schmmoze with Hezbollah.I’m sure she would find the living standards up to he expectations. For everyone else (she won’t see this), I invite you to see this short clip:

http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/imperial-history.html

LarryG on June 4, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Dark-Star on June 4, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Before you go all spastic moronic libard, maybe (if you can actually read) you should do a little research first. In the 1400 years Islam has been around, it has done nothing but slaughter and oppress (granted, the Christians are just as guilty, but they aren’t ones chopping off peoples heads and blowing up buses on a daily basis, are they?). You just wont admit the truth, that Islam is a violent religion that seeks to convert or slaughter everyone. You should read their holy writings sometime, instead of just drinking the kool-aid about the religion of peace.

Qur’an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”

Qur’an (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”.

Qur’an (4:95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-”

Qur’an (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”

And that is just a few of the many examples from the Qur’an, let alone any of their other religious documents.

Now, tell me again, that a religion whos foundation is convert or die would not have turned its attention more to the west if not for Isreal? Remember these are the people who at one point had conquered 2/3s of the Christian World.

Wolftech on June 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM

Please, demonstrate your vast breadth of economic knowledge by showing us a cost-benefit analysis showing a net-economic benefit brought by our relations with Israel.

Because the monies we’ve spent over the years on Israel (costs) are pretty obvious. The benefits… not so much.

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:05 PM

Only if you can do the same for the exhorbitant amounts we have sent to the “Palis” for humanitarian reasons and to resurrect the dump that they have made of their territories.

Read the Kristol piece that I linked to earlier. It says a lot about the role Israel serves as a buffer between the midieval East and the Enlightenment West.

onlineanalyst on June 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM

It’s been said — ugly is as ugly talks!

Journalist?

rebuzz on June 4, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Is it your contention, then, that Israel’s right to exist is a product of United Nations’ actions?

I’m mighty uncomfortable with that.

JohnGalt23 on June 4, 2010 at 5:02 PM

Since when does any country have to prove that it has a “right to exist”, and why are you singling out Israel as not having one?

DKCZ on June 4, 2010 at 5:32 PM

Bingo!!!

ProfessorMiao on June 4, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Just as the Greatest Generation is dying off, so are the Holocaust survivors. Who is keeping the lamp of liberty alive today?

onlineanalyst on June 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM

Wolftech on June 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM

If what you say is true, isn’t the American muslim population a grave security threat? Come on down Bedford Ave in Brooklyn and tell them yourself. I’ll go with you, excellent kabobs to be had.

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 6:49 PM

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 6:11 PM

No… lets start with not giving money to those who are not are allies and to those who hate our way of life first(with the exception of truly humanitarian disaster aid). Then we can continue with those in Washington, those on welfare (and can, but refuse to work) and those here illegally. On second thought. Lets start with the invaders first… err. illegals.

Wolftech on June 4, 2010 at 6:49 PM

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 6:49 PM

I am just pointing out what their books say and what they have done. Just like Martin Luther split from the Catholic Church, so too can Muslims split from their violent doctrine. But they need someone to post something on the door of the Mosque.

But we both know that more and more, there are places in the peaceful communities preaching the same kind of hate they preach in the Middle East. (and there are ‘Christian’ churches here that preach the same kind of hate… 0bama sat in one for 20 years).

Wolftech on June 4, 2010 at 6:54 PM

Resist the urge…Let her sit there and ask her questions….

OK…I would add that we’d be wise to avoid any appearance of outrage. Don’t be angry, feel betrayed, or hiss and spit about her revealing herself (yet again) as a rather predictable ideologue….

…and, for heaven’s sake, don’t feign surprise. Was anyone here surprised by direction taken by Mr. Obama once in office? Was anyone surprised to find that the folks trying to violate Israel’s sovereignty by floating their poisonous boats to Gaza were armed and aggressive? Was anyone surprised that Obama or Emmanuel or whoever offered insufficiently safe bets jobs to keep tired old hacks in office?

What, after all, did you expect?

…a politican, and I include the unelected solons of the press in that, not acting like a truck-stop whore…now that would be news….

Puritan1648 on June 4, 2010 at 6:55 PM

Baba Yaga here should stop with her anti-Semitic babble and get back to her favorite recreational sport: eating children.

lansing quaker on June 4, 2010 at 6:56 PM

Really? Then they’d lose nothing by our withdrawing said aid…right? The US is massively in debt, we need all the money we can spare, lets start there then.

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 6:11 PM

With all the money the government wastes, it’s odd that you’d be upset over $3 billion a year to the only country in that region that has anything resembling a democratic government.

ddrintn on June 4, 2010 at 6:56 PM

Just as the Greatest Generation is dying off, so are the Holocaust survivors. Who is keeping the lamp of liberty alive today?

onlineanalyst on June 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM

…a perfect juxtaposition…the “Greatest Generation”, who pampered their kids out of love, are socked in the teeth by those same kids, ungrateful for the attention….

…the “Greatest Generation” supplanted by the “Guarenteed Generation”…how God must laugh….

Puritan1648 on June 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM

ddrintn on June 4, 2010 at 6:56 PM

Not really odd, considering that ernesto, Dark-Star and the like are all libtard trolls who only read the 0bama talking points and drink k00l-aid and can only offer straw-man arguements.

Wolftech on June 4, 2010 at 6:58 PM

Just going over the check list.

Pro illegal immigrant/ anti Jew.

Pro terrorists/ anti Tea Party

Pro black panters voter intimidation/anti military.

Pro liberal progressive movement/ anti constitution.

Is that about it?

capejasmine on June 4, 2010 at 7:00 PM

What you are inside shows outside,shudder!!!! pure evil.

If this is what a Palestinian looks like I sure hope they stay there, just another tribe. They all have pure hatred for each other and all that don’t believe as they do, we should stop ALL immigration from all Arab counties for at leat 10 years period.

concernedsenior on June 4, 2010 at 7:01 PM

time to put her out to pasture…geez!

cmsinaz on June 4, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Again, just to get some nomenclature straight, aid is when you give and get nothing back (charity), loan is when you give now to get payed back later , many a time with interest and trade is when you give and get stuff in return – exchange of goods and services

runner on June 4, 2010 at 7:01 PM


paid later
(here I go again>>

runner on June 4, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Helen Thomas’ next Job is with Al Jazzera

William Amos on June 4, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Isreal should never be ceded to a pack of monkeys who have no real benefit to any other than the ones who rule them

if you haven’t noticed these same smians have got their subhuman eyes on lots of Europe, Asia , Africa and Brooklyn ).

While at the same time concerning themselves little with what they bring to the table

I still find it amazing that Anglo leaders miss this, that their interests are not cnsidered

yeah, it really irks me that we may be conquered by a people that don’t build cars, or airplanes, or guns, or really anything

the ignorant can’t possibly win can they

Sonosam on June 4, 2010 at 7:02 PM

ddrintn on June 4, 2010 at 6:56 PM

Im not particularly upset about it, but if you’re gonna call it a pittance, why not just drop it? My point was basically that it’s not a pittance. Not that I’m against aid to Israel, I’m not. I’m all for helping fund their military apparatus. I’m not a huge fan of the blockade, but I’m not exactly calling for an end to Israel here.

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 7:03 PM

Crazy old Helen is of Arab descent, so no big surprise there, but she should still do herself and the rest of us a favor and STFU.

Mr. Grump on June 4, 2010 at 7:03 PM

Really? Then they’d lose nothing by our withdrawing said aid…right? The US is massively in debt, we need all the money we can spare, lets start there then.

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 6:11 PM

As long as we get back that 900 million from Hamas first.

BadgerHawk on June 4, 2010 at 7:04 PM

Sonosam on June 4, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Simians? Subhuman?

Come through to Brooklyn and say that. I’ll buy you a plane ticket, and even take you out for some Halal before you get yourself killed.

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 7:04 PM

History repeats itself – apparently.

OldEnglish on June 4, 2010 at 7:04 PM

Who embalms this man-goblin? Terrible job!

Black Adam on June 4, 2010 at 7:04 PM

Im not particularly upset about it, but if you’re gonna call it a pittance, why not just drop it? My point was basically that it’s not a pittance.

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 7:03 PM

Compared to the massive ratholes into which our government stuffs gobs of money, it is a pittance. And this pittance gets results. Israel’s been there for quite a while.

ddrintn on June 4, 2010 at 7:06 PM

just wait until she passes on…the msm will hail her the best journalist since God was a boy…gag-a-thon…

cmsinaz on June 4, 2010 at 7:07 PM

Sonosam on June 4, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Simians? Subhuman?

Come through to Brooklyn and say that. I’ll buy you a plane ticket, and even take you out for some Halal before you get yourself killed.

ernesto on June 4, 2010 at 7:04 PM

You’ve just proved the accusation.

OldEnglish on June 4, 2010 at 7:07 PM

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