Report: Israel ready to relax Gaza blockade?

posted at 10:33 pm on June 3, 2010 by Allahpundit

That was fast. As Krauthammer says in his op-ed tomorrow, “the whole point of this relentless international campaign is to deprive Israel of any legitimate form of self-defense.” They’re not allowed to occupy Lebanon or Gaza to keep weapons out of their enemies’ hands; they’re not allowed to wage war against Hezbollah or Hamas even after they withdraw; and now they’re not allowed to cut off Hamas’s supply routes even while providing humanitarian aid to Palestinians. The only “legitimate” option is surrender. Lesson learned: Provocations work.

While still insisting that its blockade of Gaza is essential to its security, the Israeli government is now shifting its position, “exploring new ways” of allowing goods to reach the coastal enclave, an Israeli official said Thursday…

Israel’s Channel 2 television news reported on Thursday that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had proposed to Tony Blair, the international envoy of the so-called quartet of Middle East peacemakers, that an international naval force inspect future aid ships bound for Gaza.

Judging by how well international ground forces did in Lebanon to keep weapons out of Hezbollah’s hands, Hamas should have a gigantic arsenal in, oh, three years or so. That’s assuming the Times’s report on Bibi’s plan is correct, though. According to the Jerusalem Post, he might have something different in mind:

The navy is gearing up for the possible interception over the weekend of the MV Rachel Corrie protest ship, as Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said Thursday he was considering letting more goods into Gaza

But under pressure from the US, Netanyahu is now willing to reconsider his policy of closing the Gaza land passages to all but humanitarian supplies…

The cargo path to Gaza would remain the same. Ships would not be allowed to dock in Gaza and would instead be diverted, as they are now, to Ashdod.

There, the cargo would be inspected and then sent to Gaza by land, as is presently done. The new policy, if approved, would increase the variety and amount of goods.

No international force, in other words, but merely a relaxation of some of the rules that currently prohibit certain innocuous items (e.g., musical instruments) from entering Gaza. That’s certainly preferable to the first option, but I don’t know what it’ll solve. The point of the flotilla wasn’t to sneak aid to Gazans but to challenge Israeli authority with an eye to using international outrage afterwards to get the blockade lifted completely. That would give the local Islamist regimes an easily demagogue-able political victory and would hopefully open Gaza’s port to all sorts of special “aid” from Iran. So long as Israel remains in control of the coast, even with relaxed rules about what can be brought in, they’re going to face new provocations. But don’t take my word for it:

When asked if the activists [aboard the next boat to approach Gaza] would try to break the blockade or would agree to a compromise that would allow them to unload the cargo under Israeli supervision, Kysia said, “We don’t recognize Israel’s authority to impose a blockade on the Gaza Strip or to impose their power on the Gaza Strip,” adding that the organization didn’t want to be accomplices to Israel’s policy of “putting Palestinians on a diet.”

No doubt Netanyahu realizes all this; I assume the new concession is aimed at simply throwing the west a bone to turn down the heat and to hopefully deny Turkey a pretext to escalate the situation further by sending its warships to escort the next “aid” boat. But all they’re doing here is buying time until the next demand comes for Israel to stop defending itself, which, per the JPost, could be as soon as this weekend when the MV Rachel Corrie (yes, really) steams towards the coast. Stay tuned.


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If Bush was a country, he’d be Israel. Israel needs to take a page from him though and not back down, EVER!

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:36 PM

The jihad activists aren’t out to peacefully protest Israel’s policies. They simply don’t recognize Israel’s right to exist. The fact that the international community is siding with activists funded by a terror group over Israel is astounding.

amerpundit on June 3, 2010 at 10:37 PM

If Bush was a country, he’d be Israel. Israel needs to take a page from him though and not back down, EVER!

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Narutoboy: Ugh,you know Israel is Hot Airyan Country!!

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM

international naval force?

an abstract term for an abstract force whose “actions” are unlikely to yield anything near a “warm fuzzy” required for Israel’s security.

ted c on June 3, 2010 at 10:39 PM

No doubt Netanyahu realizes all this; I assume the new concession is aimed at simply throwing the west a bone to turn down the heat and to hopefully deny Turkey a pretext to escalate the situation further by sending its warships to escort the next “aid” boat.

They are ‘the west’…the front line, in fact. And Obama is making sure they lose…and thus, we all lose.

Geez…it’s over.

AUINSC on June 3, 2010 at 10:40 PM

Just no one complain when Israel really defends herself agains the muslim maniacs.

SouthernGent on June 3, 2010 at 10:40 PM

Excuse me while I puke my guts out.

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 10:40 PM

F’ing Eurotrash, and OB.

Lance Murdock on June 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM

Report: Israel ready to relax Gaza blockade?
===================================================

That must mean one thing!

Ayers and Dhorns are sitting in an Israeli jail
for arranging some ships to make a run into Gaza!!

And that must mean,Hopey is looking the other way
along with Holder-*Wink-Wink*!!

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM

MV Rachel Corrie

Barf.

Skywise on June 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Narutoboy: Ugh,you know Israel is Hot Airyan Country!!

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM

Aryans are the one’s who wanted them extinct.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:44 PM

No. No. No!!!!! Don’t!

jatfla on June 3, 2010 at 10:44 PM

If you give a mouse a cookie…

sammypants on June 3, 2010 at 10:45 PM

Feeling safer with PBHO in charge, 52%’ers?

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 10:46 PM

Israel would do everyone a favor if one of its subs accidentally sank the Rachel Corrie out in the open sea.

BJ* on June 3, 2010 at 10:46 PM

The fact that Israel still exists is a miracle. Please don’t let Mr. Obama’s biggest foreign policy blunder be at Israel’s expense.

Cindy Munford on June 3, 2010 at 10:46 PM

Aryans are the one’s who wanted them extinct.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:44 PM

Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan are Aryans. Who’da thunk it.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 10:47 PM

Its a tinder-box,

2012 is coming,

and the perfect Huntress,is SarahCuda,
to allow Israel a greenlight,thats
if Israel doesn’t *redlight first,er,
attack first!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*redlight(in dragracing,if you jump the gun,go before
the light,or trip the lighbeam,after you ease
your brakes,the car rolls a tad,you redlight)

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 10:47 PM

Aryans are the one’s who wanted them extinct.
Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:44 PM

Yes, the Iranians.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Yes, the Iranians.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Ha, well done!

Inkblots on June 3, 2010 at 10:52 PM

Yes, the Iranians.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 10:49 PM

And the Nazi Aryans, yes.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:52 PM

I read it somewhere else, but someone should send the SS Armenian Genocide into Turkish waters and see the reaction.

clnurnberg on June 3, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Yes, the Iranians.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Bishop:Tell him its Aryan Persians,that’ll confuse ‘em!!
hehe-:)

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan are Aryans. Who’da thunk it.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 10:47 PM

Criticism of white people. Meep moop meep. Must employ defense mechanism. Bidi bidi bidi. Come up with names of inflammatory black people. Information incoming. Processing…

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM

Yes, the Iranians.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 10:49 PM
And the Nazi Aryans, yes.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:52 PM

But not the mouth-breathing Bible-thumping Southern Aryans, I take it.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM

Bishop:Tell him its Aryan Persians,that’ll confuse ‘em!!
hehe-:)

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Lol, you fool, I know Iran was Persia, and I know Persians/Iranians are considered Aryans.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM

And the Nazi Aryans, yes.
Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:52 PM

They Nazis only called themselves Aryan, stealing a term to feed their corruptness, similar to liberals calling themselves “progressive”.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 10:56 PM

But not the mouth-breathing Bible-thumping Southern Aryans, I take it.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM

Yes, the ultra far-right wacko type. Alex Jones comes to mind.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:56 PM

Will the West stand up to Turkey?

For the past eight years, Erdogan has been provoking Israel. His strategy has consistently been the same: encouraging jihadist attacks against Israel, reacting hysterically to Israel’s responses, and “warning” the West that letting Israel get away with its “crimes” would have the effect of pushing Turkey into Iran’s arms.

In 2004, Erdogan called Israel a “terrorist state” after we eliminated Sheikh Yassin. In February 2006, he hosted Hamas leader Haled Mashal in Ankara. In January 2009, he staged a temper tantrum at the Davos Conference calling Shimon Peres an expert killer. In October 2009, the Turkish state television channel started airing a fiction series showing Israeli soldiers intentionally murdering Palestinian children. In November 2009, Erdogan declared that he’d rather meet with Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir (accused of war crimes and genocide by the International Criminal Court) than with Benjamin Netanyahu. In March 2010, Erdogan claimed that the Temple Mount, Hebron and Rachel’s tomb were never Jewish sites. The list goes on.

With the “Mavi Marmara” affair, Erdogan has crossed a new threshold. He is now setting Turkey on a military collision course with Israel while blaming Israel for the consequences of Turkey’s provocations and while convincing the West that it will lose Turkey if dares to blame it for its troublemaking. This deceiving stratagem has been working superbly thanks to the cowardice or blindness (or both) of the free world’s current leaders.

President Obama called Erdogan to express “his deep condolences for the loss of life and injuries resulting from the Israeli military operation.” Obama didn’t have anything to say about the fact that Turkey was trying to help Hamas import missiles and that the IHH terrorists tried to kill Israeli soldiers. As for President Sarkozy, he denounced what he called Israel’s “disproportionate” use of force despite the fact that the Israeli soldiers started using their weapons only to save their lives from the armed mob that tried to lynch them.

Jimmy Carter and Valéry Giscard d’Estaing propped-up Khomeini in Iran, thinking that he would appease the “anger” of the Iranian people towards the West. How brilliant indeed. Obama and Sarkozy are making the same mistake with Erdogan. Talk about killing two birds with one stone: Turkey can count both on American chickens and on French pigeons. Turkey is making a disproportionate use of hypocrisy, and it works. Until the West has leaders worthy of that name, Israel has no choice but to fight alone and win.

Luka on June 3, 2010 at 10:57 PM

Come up with names of inflammatory black people.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM

Says the one who relies on the examples of David Koresh and Jim Jones to critique Christianity. Bleep…bleep…bleep…

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 10:57 PM

Criticism of white people. Meep moop meep. Must employ defense mechanism. Bidi bidi bidi. Come up with names of inflammatory black people. Information incoming. Processing…

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM

Narutoboy:
========================================
Louis Farrakhan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 10:59 PM

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Wait until I write “proto-Iranian”…there might actually be flustering involved.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 11:00 PM

If Bush was a country, he’d be Israel. Israel needs to take a page from him though and not back down, EVER!

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Are you off your meds?

BL@KBIRD on June 3, 2010 at 11:00 PM

They Nazis only called themselves Aryan, stealing a term to feed their corruptness, similar to liberals calling themselves “progressive”.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 10:56 PM

You know, Bishop, that he only uses that term to provoke outrage, because he knows it’s a horrific smear that alludes to a rationalization of a leftist eugenics movement of racial superiority that slaughtered millions of people deemed inferior.

But what he never refers to are the atrocities of the fascist Japanese, who were guilty of terrible atrocities in the name of racial superiority, and it makes me wonder… hmm… Naruto… loves Japanese anime… Japanese fascism… hmm.

I think we’ve pegged him.

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:00 PM

Isreal should switch to random, surprise raids. Keep ‘em on their toes. They might as well do it since they’re already guilty before proven guilty.

Weebork on June 3, 2010 at 11:01 PM

Just no one complain when Israel really defends herself agains the muslim maniacs.

SouthernGent on June 3, 2010 at 10:40 PM

The sooner the better, i’v been listenung to the same crap for 40 years.

heshtesh on June 3, 2010 at 11:02 PM

I’d say Israel is playing this hand very tight (and dangerously) to their chest. Israel may let some flotillas through and as soon as the Iranian supplied rockets start flying towards Israel [proving their point of the blockade] they’ll let their subs in the Persian Gulf hammering the Iranian hard points and leadership with low-yield nukes.

As with cancer: poison is the cure.

Israel, A country of 6 million, may yet save the world from Islamic totalitarianism.

Peace_Sells... on June 3, 2010 at 11:02 PM

But what he never refers to are the atrocities of the fascist Japanese, who were guilty of terrible atrocities in the name of racial superiority, and it makes me wonder… hmm… Naruto… loves Japanese anime… Japanese fascism… hmm.

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:00 PM

Well, dontcha know, there wouldn’ta been Japanese fascists if it hadn’t been for them thar Southern redneck Bible-thumpin’ Aryans who made ‘em fascists…

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:03 PM

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 10:53 PM
=======================================
Wait until I write “proto-Iranian”…there might actually be flustering involved.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 11:00 PM

Bishop:Let me check my tool-box,haha!!:)

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 11:03 PM

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:00 PM

Hey, dontchu be talking about Japan like that. They’ve done wrong (like Pearl Harbor and that whole death march thing – I think that was them), but unlike other places *cough*, they’ve made great contributions to society.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:03 PM

i’v = i’ve
listenung = listening

heshtesh on June 3, 2010 at 11:04 PM

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:00 PM

Yah, but I feel bad for the boy so I allow him to comment here from time to time.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 11:04 PM

Bishop:Let me check my tool-box,haha!!:)
canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 11:03 PM

It looks similar to a metric flashlight, only smaller.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 11:07 PM

I read it somewhere else, but someone should send the SS Armenian Genocide into Turkish waters and see the reaction.

clnurnberg on June 3, 2010 at 10:53 PM

and bring “humanitarian” aid to the Turkish Kurds.

xplodeit on June 3, 2010 at 11:07 PM

For anyone who has ever been in a fight…

… no matter how hard you tried to avoid it, having been trained, you know it is time to take a tactical inventory of your opponent,

Then there comes a moment to let them take off their shirt, take a last swig of swagger, and stumble full speed into pain…

I think our friend Israel has had enough, and will not die by a thousand cuts, but will fight to survive…

I suggest everyone pick a side, check their inventory of emergency supplies, and stock up on fuel. Oil is about to get a little pricey…

Seven Percent Solution on June 3, 2010 at 11:07 PM

Not to worry people. Bebe is no Obama. He will not jeopardize the homeland. He knows what he’s doing.

PaCadle on June 3, 2010 at 11:08 PM

They’ve done wrong (like Pearl Harbor and that whole death march thing – I think that was them)

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:03 PM

Wiki the Bataan Death March. Then research the Japanese raids on Manchuria. Then take a look at the treatment of prisoners of war and the violations of Geneva code by the Japanese. Then research the kamikaze. Then look up the experiments on live human beings by the Japanese “doctors”. Oh yeah, they were real princes.

Naruto = fascist Japanese

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:08 PM

Naruto = fascist Japanese

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:08 PM

Nah, Narutoboy=cheap race-baiter, and not a very sharp one at that.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:09 PM

Nah, Narutoboy=cheap race-baiter, and not a very sharp one at that.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:09 PM

Just playing his game by his rules. :)

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:11 PM

Israel must allow Hamas to import Scud missiles, it’s the humanitarian thing to do.

agmartin on June 3, 2010 at 11:12 PM

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:08 PM

Then look up Japanese birth rate, and be satisfied knowing there won’t be any Japanese in a few generation.

Inanemergencydial on June 3, 2010 at 11:12 PM

Nuke the flotilla.

EZnSF on June 3, 2010 at 11:12 PM

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:08 PM

Then look up the experiments on live human beings by the Japanese “doctors”.

Happened here.

Then research the Japanese raids on Manchuria.

We’ve raided. Not a bad thing in and of itself.

Then take a look at the treatment of prisoners of war and the violations of Geneva code by the Japanese.

Slavery, decades of civil rights violations, legislated human rights violations – all here.

Then research the kamikaze.

Cultural thing.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:13 PM

I sort of suspect that Narutoboy=The Race Card, actually.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:13 PM

Sad as it is to say, the US has no real power or influence over world events anymore and certainly not in the Middle East. This has much to do with proving that point as it does with trying to force Israel to back down and lift the blockade.

Bennett on June 3, 2010 at 11:13 PM

Then look up Japanese birth rate, and be satisfied knowing there won’t be any Japanese in a few generation.

Inanemergencydial on June 3, 2010 at 11:12 PM

It’s really too bad that HA doesn’t ban people for ignorance and bigotry against everyone.

Cody1991 on June 3, 2010 at 9:15 PM

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:14 PM

Its amazing how fast things go downhill without a true leader.

tommer74 on June 3, 2010 at 11:15 PM

We’ve raided. Not a bad thing in and of itself.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:13 PM

Are you out of your flippin’ mind?

Try researching it first before you make an utter fool of yourself.

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:16 PM

We’ve raided. Not a bad thing in and of itself.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:13 PM

You can try the moral equivalency all you want, but we’ve never done anything on the scale of Nanking. Not Sand Creek, not Wounded Knee, not My Lai.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:16 PM

They’re not allowed to occupy Lebanon or Gaza to keep weapons out of their enemies’ hands; they’re not allowed to wage war against Hezbollah or Hamas even after they withdraw; and now they’re not allowed to cut off Hamas’s supply routes even while providing humanitarian aid to Palestinians. The only “legitimate” option is surrender.

The scum want them to march into the ovens peacefully, without a fight. It WILL happen again if Israel doesn’t make a stand.

Yakko77 on June 3, 2010 at 11:17 PM

Are you out of your flippin’ mind?

Try researching it first before you make an utter fool of yourself.

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:16 PM

I have read about it. We’ve invaded, slaughtered, harmed individuals. We’ve also violated agreements, i.e. with the Native Americans under Andrew Jackson and other presidents. It’s how countries operate. Over time, they change, some areas faster than others (the North and the South come to mind).

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM

We’ve invaded, slaughtered, harmed individuals. We’ve also violated agreements, i.e. with the Native Americans under Andrew Jackson and other presidents.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM

By that argument, then, what the Nazis did was just fine, since we did the same thing.

Or, what is far more likely, is you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about and are too lazy to find out.

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:22 PM

Can we just get Holocaust II over already. We all know it’s coming so we might as well get it over with. Right, Obama?

JavelinaBomb on June 3, 2010 at 11:24 PM

there’s a hijacking in progress… laters

Americannodash on June 3, 2010 at 11:24 PM

Over time, they change, some areas faster than others (the North and the South come to mind).

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM

Well, it seems that the more things change, the more they stay the same.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:24 PM

So long as Israel remains in control of the coast, even with relaxed rules about what can be brought in, they’re going to face new provocations.

if Turkey closed its ports this need not happen; so, unless this freaky administrations and the rest of NATO puts a squeeze on that terrorist Erdogan, it will continue

runner on June 3, 2010 at 11:24 PM

By that argument, then, what the Nazis did was just fine, since we did the same thing.

Or, what is far more likely, is you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about and are too lazy to find out.

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:22 PM

No it wasn’t fine. We had an obligation to stop them. Just like Lincoln had an obligation to kick the butts of rednecks.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:26 PM

No it wasn’t fine. We had an obligation to stop them. Just like Lincoln had an obligation to kick the butts of rednecks.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:26 PM

Huh? Lincoln was a redneck himself.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:28 PM

I pray for strength for Netanyahu.

paul1149 on June 3, 2010 at 11:29 PM

Oh my, seems Naruto just defined the basis for the invasions of Iran and Afghanistan, as well as quite a few other places.

The military is going to be busier than ever.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 11:30 PM

And what kind of asshole names a ship the MV Rachel Corrie? Does that mean somewhere in the world there’s a ship named the S.S. Armenian Holocaust?

JavelinaBomb on June 3, 2010 at 11:30 PM

Huh? Lincoln was a redneck himself.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:28 PM

No. Rednecks, by definition, are Southerners. Every other identifier (poor, farmer, etc) comes after that.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Obama gave Netanyahu an ultimatum?

Obama is backing Turkey, has agents (Ayers and Dohrn) heavily involved?

Skandia Recluse on June 3, 2010 at 11:32 PM

No. Rednecks, by definition, are Southerners. Every other identifier (poor, farmer, etc) comes after that.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Where do you think Lincoln was born?

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:32 PM

Just no one complain when Israel really defends herself agains the muslim maniacs.
SouthernGent on June 3, 2010 at 10:40 PM

complain? Heck I’m looking forward to it!

Zetterson on June 3, 2010 at 11:32 PM

No. Rednecks, by definition, are Southerners.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:31 PM

And, uh, no they aren’t. I guess you’ve never been to western PA or southern OH.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:33 PM

Or, what is far more likely, is you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about and are too lazy to find out.

John the Libertarian on June 3, 2010 at 11:22 PM

John the Libertarian: Good lord,I leave the thread for about
a half an hour and Narutoboy has gone
from Red Neck Aryan Proto Persians to
the Japanese and then on and over to
Native Americans!!

Outstanding!!

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 11:34 PM

So Lincoln was kicking the butts of guys who worked outdoors?

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 11:35 PM

I hope they don’t give in!

MCGIRV on June 3, 2010 at 11:36 PM

OH NO!!!!

Don’t do it Israel – don’t do it!

gophergirl on June 3, 2010 at 11:37 PM

Where do you think Lincoln was born?

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:32 PM

I was born in Virginia, doesn’t make me a Southerner. McCain was born in Panama, doesn’t make him Panamanian. It matters where you grew up (added factor is where you currently live) and he moved early on in life.

Plus: You don’t automatically become a redneck by way of being born in the South. You were most likely a redneck if you supported a terrorist country (the CSA). Abe’s family, from what I’ve read, despised the immoral, anti human rights activities of the South.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:38 PM

Melanie Phillips has a new book out, The World Turned Upside Down which is an excellent analysis of the Muslim’s end game, which is the destruction of Israel and the conquest of the West. Highly recommended.

Dhuka on June 3, 2010 at 11:38 PM

So Lincoln was kicking the butts of guys who worked outdoors?

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 11:35 PM

Bishop: I’m afraid to ask,which State,or Country,I’m sure
Narutoboy will have this one on another planet,
maybe Pandora!!:)

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 11:39 PM

Plus: You don’t automatically become a redneck by way of being born in the South. You were most likely a redneck if you supported a terrorist country (the CSA).

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:38 PM

So there couldn’t possibly be any rednecks born after 1865. Your logic is dazzling. LOL

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:40 PM

Let them at least have the newspapers, musical instruments, and livestock they’ve been denied thus far. I understand the political and security circumstances; I get that Israel has a right to defend itself and that a hostile party exists at its border. But in all honesty, there’s no reason someone living in Gaza shouldn’t be allowed to import a violin or copy of the wall street journal.

ernesto on June 3, 2010 at 11:40 PM

Melanie Phillips has a new book out, The World Turned Upside Down which is an excellent analysis of the Muslim’s end game, which is the destruction of Israel and the conquest of the West. Highly recommended.

Dhuka on June 3, 2010 at 11:38 PM

Dhuka: Thats why all nuke stuff is underground!!

As soon as they have really good missiles and enough warheads to flatten the earth,they will launch all out,
to rid,or VAPOURIZE and STERILIZE the infidels!!

Thats the PLAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 11:42 PM

musical instruments,

ernesto on June 3, 2010 at 11:40 PM

ernesto:They can be torn down and melted to make bad things!

canopfor on June 3, 2010 at 11:44 PM

I was born in Virginia, doesn’t make me a Southerner.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:38 PM

Doesn’t make you a Manhattan sophisticate, either.

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:44 PM

can someone explain these claims that Israel is not allowing musical instruments ? is this something ernesto made up and is now going in circles on HotAir ?

runner on June 3, 2010 at 11:45 PM

Anyone else notice that a handful of comments just disappeared?

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 11:46 PM

Ok, was my laptop I guess. PBHO finally found me.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 11:46 PM

You don’t automatically become a redneck by way of being born in the South. You were most likely a redneck if you supported a terrorist country (the CSA).

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:38 PM

This is getting interesting though. Woodrow Wilson was born and rasied in the South, and apprently had a lot of fondness for the Confederacy and didn’t care too much about blacks. Was he a redneck?

ddrintn on June 3, 2010 at 11:46 PM

Anyone else notice that a handful of comments just disappeared?

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 11:46 PM

oh, that’s Ed and Allah are trying out something new – random ban

runner on June 3, 2010 at 11:47 PM

runner on June 3, 2010 at 11:45 PM

http://www.economist.com/node/16264970

ernesto on June 3, 2010 at 11:47 PM

Newspapers can inflict nasty papercuts, or can be folded into those little paper footballs, covered in Semtex and then flicked into Israel.

Bishop on June 3, 2010 at 11:48 PM

No. Rednecks, by definition, are Southerners. Every other identifier (poor, farmer, etc) comes after that.

Narutoboy on June 3, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Any rednecks in Iceland?

OldEnglish on June 3, 2010 at 11:48 PM

(ed and allah trying, that is)

runner on June 3, 2010 at 11:48 PM

Did the American people elect the next adolf hitler? That krauthammer piece makes me wonder. He either doesn’t understand the fact that he is requsting the elimination of israel’s last line of defense and he’s just ignorant or he does understand it and he’s evil. It must be one or the other. Am I right to ask this or is that way out of line?

Zetterson on June 3, 2010 at 11:51 PM

I feel like I’m living in the end-times.

Mirimichi on June 3, 2010 at 11:52 PM

http://www.economist.com/node/16264970

ernesto on June 3, 2010 at 11:47 PM

that reads like there is no official ban and the decision is made on case-by-case basis; probably the same as with some imports into the US – either they are declared or – buy , buy

runner on June 3, 2010 at 11:53 PM

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