Turkish FM on flotilla: This is, like, our 9/11 or something

posted at 4:25 pm on June 1, 2010 by Allahpundit

So, let’s see. The flotilla set off from Turkish territory, and was organized by members of the Turkish branch of a group recognized by the State Department as a terrorist organization. The “peace activists” aboard were filmed shrieking Islamic battle cries before their run-in with the IDF, knowing full well that their “relief mission” was actually aimed at provoking some sort of demagogue-able confrontation. The confrontation duly occurred, whereupon Turkey’s leadership somehow managed to outdo even Iran in the shrillness of its demagoguery. Perfectly predictable behavior from an Islamist government, except of course for one thing: As Matt Continetti reminds us, they’re a NATO ally. Here’s how our “ally” conceptualizes one terrorist group trying to funnel supplies to the terrorist government in Gaza:

During a press conference ahead of the meeting, Davitoglu said he was disappointed with Washington’s cautious response to an incident he likened to the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.

“Psychologically this attack is like 9/11 for Turkey because Turkish citizens were attacked by a state, not by terrorists, with an intention, a clear decision of political leaders of that state,” he said.

“The Israelis think they are above any law, but Turkey and the rest of the international community will stop them,” he said, comparing between the IDF operation and pirate operating in the Gulf of Eden.

Not to be outdone, Turkey’s PM channels his inner Ahmadinejad:

“This bloody massacre by Israel on ships that were taking humanitarian aid to Gaza deserves every kind of curse,” he said, demanding that Israel immediately halt its “inhumane” blockade of Gaza.

“They have once again showed to the world that they know how good they are at killing people,” Erdogan said. “Israel in no way can legitimize this murder, it cannot wash its hand of this blood.”

Erdogan said Turkey would continue to support the Palestinian people.

“We will not turn our back on Palestine, Palestinians and Gaza,” Erdogan said.

Mind you, these are the words of the leaders of a country we’ve agreed to defend if/when it ends up at war with a non-NATO state (like, say, Israel). That didn’t sound like a bad deal during the Cold War, when Turkey was still on the secularist path; 20 years later, with Islamist-ization in full swing and Erdogan et al. throwing up diplomatic smokescreens to protect Iran’s nuclear program, it seems exceedingly short-sighted. Expect the paleocon antipathy to NATO to receive some Strange New Respect from mainline conservatives in the next few years as Turkish leaders find ever more creative ways to incite and exploit anti-Israeli sentiment politically. But don’t expect Turkey’s NATO status to change: There’s no way any western nation will spearhead a movement to oust the group’s only Muslim member, especially at a moment when Turkey’s reorienting itself towards regimes like Tehran. The thinking will be that it’s safer to keep them inside the tent, with one foot planted conceptually in the west, as a sort of check on their Islamist tendencies. And Turkey, I’m sure, will be happy to oblige, preserving relations with both sides to establish itself as a power-broker between east and west. What a coup it’ll be for Erdogan if he can demagogue this fiercely enough to get Israel to finally lift the blockade of Gaza. He’ll be an instant Palestinian hero, with all the Muslim cred that comes with that, and he’ll get to cover himself in faux-humanitarian glory to the delight of useful idiots here and in Europe. It’s a nice scam. No wonder a second flotilla is already being planned. Exit question: Turkey’s not seriously going to send warships to escort it, is it?


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Don’t bother hrh40 – The BS typifies those for which moral relativism, hypocrisy, and obfuscation are utilized in lieu of intellect.

The type that express angst at the risk of violence when someone stands up to the bully… but would themselves screech like the proverbial banshee if they themselves were targeted.

I cannot inuit whether she will be a candidate – or if I would support her over others. I can say she is performing the very difficult task of grading the road so others may pass more easily. The status quo for the media has been a increasingly leftist lurch – this cannot stand.

I prefer she continues to stand up to the bully.

maninthemiddle on June 1, 2010 at 5:17 PM

That will be a lesson – do not leave a thought while attempting to conduct business – one ends up posting on the wrong thread. Apologies and a sincere bow for America’s past sins, of not my own.

maninthemiddle on June 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM

An obvious attempt by Islamists, and these so called, educated, elitists….are lapping it up faster than gator on a chicken. IDIOTS!!!

capejasmine on June 1, 2010 at 5:21 PM

I do, American Jews and American Christians will not tolerate Israel being attacked and not supported by the U.S.
Combined we have the power to force him to act or step down…

right2bright on June 1, 2010 at 5:04 PM

Americans were mostly against ObamaCare but that didn’t stop Obama. Americans are with Arizona by margins of 2 to 1 up to 3 1/2 to 1, depending on the poll and how the question is asked, and that has not caused Obama to reverse course.

As I said, you must have extraordinary faith.

Tav on June 1, 2010 at 5:23 PM

Next time the Israelis should use a submarine to torpedo the ship, the UN is good about ignoring such deeds. Plus, no witnesses, “for all we know it was a boiler accident.”

Bishop on June 1, 2010 at 5:02 PM

I think that their subs may be otherwise occupied.

We need to keep our eye on Iran…

d1carter on June 1, 2010 at 5:00 PM

Eyes and nukes.

ontherocks on June 1, 2010 at 5:29 PM

Given Obama’s disdain for Israel, I’m a little surprised that the administration didn’t jump on the opportunity to condemn them.

And yes, during the cold war, and given Turkey’s location, it made sense to have them in NATO, after we won the cold war, not so much of a need for them any longer.

crashland on June 1, 2010 at 5:35 PM

The state department is on twitter?

Are you fucking kidding me?

You-Eh-Vee on June 1, 2010 at 5:08 PM

Ah priceless. Of course, why I’m laughing I have no idea. Symptomatic of the whole problem with this administration, I guess. The world is gnashing teeth and pissing fire, and here’s our government, jerking off to social media.

Why do I feel like I totally understand this commercial now?

somewhatconcerned on June 1, 2010 at 5:40 PM

Perhaps it is time for Turkey to be placed at least on probation from NATO. I just do not understand the Islamic world.

SC.Charlie on June 1, 2010 at 5:52 PM

I just do not understand the Islamic world.

SC.Charlie on June 1, 2010

Start here: Islam 101 – Jihad Watch

Then if you’re still interested try The Closed Circle by David Pryce-Jones.

chimney sweep on June 1, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Insane. I was very heartened to read that Israelis were protesting outside the Turkish embassy in Tel Aviv today. Good on ‘em!!

ProfessorMiao on June 1, 2010 at 6:06 PM

Mind you, these are the words of the leaders of a country we’ve agreed to defend if/when it ends up at war with a non-NATO state (like, say, Israel).

Perhaps it is time for Turkey to be placed at least on probation from NATO. I just do not understand the Islamic world.

SC.Charlie on June 1, 2010 at 5:52 PM

This is truly disturbing given the radicalization of Turkey over time. What is the NATO membership policy – can Turkey be removed if they do not live up to certain standards or practices? That’d be a terribly extreme move. But at the same time if a hypothetical like AP just described were to happen it could take NATO down effectively.

What a mess.

MikeknaJ on June 1, 2010 at 6:07 PM

I think the only reason the US didn’t join in on the UN’s preferred language to condemn Israel for the “peace activists” deaths and injuries was that they’ve begun to realize that if they isolate Israel completely, Israel will go after Iran’s nuclear sites. And Obama would rather have a nuclear-armed Iran than that.

ProfessorMiao on June 1, 2010 at 6:09 PM

The Israel should organize a humanitarian fleet to aid the Kurds in eastern Turkey. I’m sure the Turks would be paragons of virtue, and let them through without inspecting the cargo.

Scott Free on June 1, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Never trust a Muslim.

“Secular Turkey” my a$$.

mankai on June 1, 2010 at 6:25 PM

This is, like, our 9/11 or something.

Yep, the twin towers were trying to run a blockade when they were destroyed.

Scrappy on June 1, 2010 at 6:28 PM

Whenever I hear a Muslim claim the Jews “can never wash their hands of blood”, I know it’s pure projection.

This is, like, our 9/11 or something.

Only if the Turks are 9/11 Troofers, if you get my drift.

Spiny Norman on June 1, 2010 at 6:43 PM

Islam is the most effective retardant on humanity. Islam only produces death and slavery on every imaginable level. You cannot find a successful Islamic society nor has there ever been one. In the “Age of Booty”, the first century of Islam, the Muslims were very rich (after consuming the cultures and their wealth around them) and this has come down in Islam as the way it should be for Muslims always. Feed off the work and wealth of others. This creed stood them in good stead as long as the Muslim heavy cavalry was the Queen on the chess board. But fatwas were issued against education of anything beyond memorizing the Qur’an in Arabic for males and nothing at all for females. This put a severe crimp in innovation and inquiry and led to high rates of illiteracy. Then after military technological advances left Islam without overt teeth they switched to being slavers, pirates and extortion artists. When continental conquests were no more they spiraled deeper into the useless unproductive groups they are today, ever hoping for the one to lead them to fulfill Allahs command.

But they have been given new life with oil and aid money this past century and the single Caliphate that rules the world has been in the planning for many decades. There was no chance of open victory on the battlefield so a new method of undoing us had to be made. It consists of subversion and infiltration with overt violence sporadically punctuating grievances that flow from the mouth of Islam like water.

Perhaps they cannot conquer us but they will never cease trying and will make one hell of a mess on the way to their final defeat.

BL@KBIRD on June 1, 2010 at 6:46 PM

Don’t be so quick to judge Turkey. Take a look at the history we’ve had with them. There’s more to this story than meets the eye, obviously. I completely disagree with the statements they’re making, but try to understand the position Turkey’s in. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. They’re dealing with a bunch of nutjob Islamic countries over there. Once in awhile, they have to appear to be on the same side as the rest of them.

I just hope it’s not permanent. We need the bases we have over there, and the ability to re-fuel over Turkish airspace. If we don’t have that, that makes middle eastern ops much more difficult than it already is.

NoStoppingUs on June 1, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Are they admitting it was an inside job?!?!

abobo on June 1, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. They’re dealing with a bunch of nutjob Islamic countries over there.

NoStoppingUs on June 1, 2010 at 6:57 PM

So which is closer, Ummah with its nutjobs or West with its reason?

anuts on June 1, 2010 at 7:26 PM

While some of these ships had registrations in Turkey, this flotilla was not an extension of the Turkish government.

It is hard to tell if the handfull of loud administrators reflect the actual position of the Turkish government.

IF the Turkish government decides to use their navy to support whatever government there is in Gaza then many new issues will emerge. For example, at what point would Turkey demand that the US attack Israel as the NATO agreement would call for?

Freddy on June 1, 2010 at 7:57 PM

We give them aid which they spend on rockets to bomb Israel. If they used the money for food and supplies, they wouldn’t need aid.

They have launched hundreds of rockets in attacks on Israel. But this little squirmish gets all the attention?

seven on June 1, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Exit question: Turkey’s not seriously going to send warships to escort it, is it?

I don’t think so. That would require actually getting into it with Israel, they prefer demagoguery.

To be honest, I know that there is the usual ranting and raving, etc, but I honestly think that most people are tired of all this. Year after year, the same crap..and if Turkey wants to get involved they can, but for what purpose?

Terrye on June 1, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Only Mr. Magoo could fail to see what happened in this situation. I someone were trying to kill me with a provided steel cudgel I think I would be inclined to blow a big hole in them rather than have my brains splattered all over the deck. I further believe that anyone taking a soldier’s weapon from them could expect the soldier’s fellow troopers to eradicate them. How hard is that to fathom? Shoot at me and miss and you’ve just run out of luck. The Turks are lying through their Ottoman teeth.

LarryG on June 1, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Exit question: Turkey’s not seriously going to send warships to escort it, is it?

This is how wars begin.

Good Lt on June 1, 2010 at 10:48 PM

I think we should demolish the UN and use the rubble to create an artificial reef somewhere.

That way we can say that the UN did finally serve a useful purpose.

FloatingRock on June 2, 2010 at 12:07 AM

Yeah, and of course the latest is that they disapprove of our failure to condemn the attack. I can’t believe I’m defending Obama (by extension, really: I’m defending America), but F*CK OFF, Turkey. The evidence that these “peaceful, humanitarian activists” were anything but just keeps mounting, AND these violent jihadis were funded by TURKEY to start with. So you can go screw yourselves.

All right, Barry…. time to show some backbone. Rahm and Axelrod had better be back there propping him up somehow, because that’s the only way it’s gonna happen.

Things are getting very interesting. Norks, Turks, and Iranian thugs are flexing their muscles all at once.

Animator Girl on June 2, 2010 at 9:37 AM

http://www.onejerusalem.org/2010/05/i-am-israel.php
Look at this.

LarryG on June 2, 2010 at 2:09 PM

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