New video: Flotilla passengers attack Israeli troops

posted at 2:28 pm on May 31, 2010 by Allahpundit

Via the IDF’s blog. Ed already posted video taken from above the ship as Israeli troops rappeled down but this one’s shot from alongside so there’s more detail. Have a look as the Forces of Peace shift into full-on mob mode, dragging the soldiers to the ground before they’re even on the deck and swinging for the fences with huge metal poles. Some of the IDF personnel involved later described it as a “lynching,” which sounded dubious to me at first but not anymore. That’s what it looks like.

“They beat us with metal sticks and knives,” he said. “There was live fire at some point against us.”…

One of the commandos said some of the soldiers were stripped of their helmets and equipment and a several were tossed from the top deck to a lower deck, forcing them to jump into the sea to escape.

“They jumped me, hit me with clubs and bottles and stole my rifle,” one of the commandos said. “I pulled out my pistol and had no choice but to shoot.”

I’m not sure if he’s referring to a paintball rifle — which, incredibly, some of the troops were armed with in order to avoid a lethal encounter — or the real thing, but according to the Jerusalem Post, the mob managed to wrestle at least two handguns away from the troops. It looks like Ynet’s account, which Ed linked earlier but which you should absolutely read in full, was spot on: The IDF really thought they were facing off with “peace activists” here and didn’t realize their miscalculation until they were on the boat. (See the third clip below for just how badly they misjudged.) The argument from the left is that the raid was illegal because it happened in international waters, but evidently that’s not true either: If a neutral ship is intent on running a blockade after being warned to turn back, the fact that it’s on the high seas isn’t a defense. Apparently Israel was either supposed to let the ships run the blockade, not knowing for sure who or what was on board, or instruct their troops to let the passengers crack their skulls open with lead pipes once they were on the deck in the interests of “dialogue” or something.

The UN Security Council is holding an emergency meeting as I write this, which is interesting since, to my knowledge, it has yet to meet to condemn the North Korean attack on that South Korean ship that’s had the far east inching towards a war footing for months. Netanyahu has already canceled his scheduled trip to the White House tomorrow, ostensibly because he needs to be back home to deal with the crisis but likely because Obama doesn’t want to be forced into an awkward photo op before all the facts are out. I’m awfully curious to see how the U.S. votes on the inevitable UN condemnation of the raid, as relations between America and Israel are already falling apart over the U.S.’s endorsement of a nuclear-free Middle East. That policy won’t do a lick of good to stop Iran but it will catalyze Muslims opposition to Israel’s arsenal, a master stroke which Richard Fernandez describes thusly: “Like a circular-running torpedo it managed to miss its every intended target — missing North Korea and Iran — while hitting Israel.” Read his whole post, as I think he’s right on about a central irony of Obama’s falling out with Netanyahu. A basic assumption of The One’s foreign policy strategy, at least during the campaign, was that dialogue can reduce international tensions by assuring that isolated states don’t act rashly in desperation. Fernandez’s point: Is further isolating Israel when it’s already desperate over Iran’s nuclear program and Hezbollah’s missile capacity a wise idea? We’re about to find out, I think.


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*sigh*

Has the entire world gone mad?

turfmann on May 31, 2010 at 2:30 PM

I stand with Israel.

Narutoboy on May 31, 2010 at 2:31 PM

RE: Hearing on South Korean ship sinking. I saw a comment on Twitter that is funny — but sad and true. It’s because NoKo’s leader’s name isn’t Kim Jong Il Schwartz.

Anyway, anyone see Alan Colmes twitter? I hate self-haters like him.

Ian on May 31, 2010 at 2:31 PM

Anyway, anyone see Alan Colmes twitter? I hate self-haters like him.

Ian on May 31, 2010 at 2:31 PM

What, pray-tell would the self hating skeletor have to add?

Tim Zank on May 31, 2010 at 2:34 PM

You can see the paintball hopper on top of one of the guns.

Mark1971 on May 31, 2010 at 2:34 PM

missing North Korea and Iran

Let’s protect dictatorships. Great.

the_nile on May 31, 2010 at 2:37 PM

We need to support our real friend, Israel.

WyoMike on May 31, 2010 at 2:37 PM

Conclusion? Never bring a chair to a gunfight. Go IDF!

prince of dorkness on May 31, 2010 at 2:37 PM

Good thing IDF had multiple cameras running on this incident. It’s horrible.

Let’s see if the US has the balls to stand up and show these videos as proof that the soldiers were defending themselves from “peace protesters”. And maybe Turkey will say, “Oh, the boat was filled with angry anti-Jew Arabs. Well, in that case, feel free to beat the crap out of them, IDF.”

But that’s all wishful thinking on my part. IDF can show as many videos of this as they want, and it’ll never make the light of day.

Nethicus on May 31, 2010 at 2:37 PM

Am Yisrael chai.

illustro on May 31, 2010 at 2:38 PM

turfmann on May 31, 2010 at 2:30 PM

I’m wondering the same thing. Unfortunately, I lean towards yes.

changer1701 on May 31, 2010 at 2:38 PM

Has the entire world gone mad?

turfmann on May 31, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Methodically.

the_nile on May 31, 2010 at 2:40 PM

Let that be a lesson to Israel.

Next time a bunch of fools try to run a naval blockade, rather than break out the non-lethal pepperballs,

You put several 4″ naval gun rounds through their hull and toss them some life-rafts.

Because clearly doing the so-called (liberal) “right thing” gets you in as much trouble with the UN and Obama as actually sinking the ships would have… so next time just sink the damn ships.

Israel isn’t getting any credit for risking their lives to non-violently stop the ships. Well, now we all know what happens.

Jones Zemkophill on May 31, 2010 at 2:40 PM

I’ve been trying to figure out why our foreign policy is all turning out even worse than under Carter, and have come to a shocking conclusion.

It’s because there is no USSR.

Sure the USSR was our enemy and exploited the weakness of Carter to it’s advantage. But the USSR had a goal. The Soviets were trying to shape events to go a certain way.

That meant that even directionless US policy still had the knee-jerk reaction of pushing back at the Soviets.

Now without them, and without the US providing leadership- we just have a world where things are spinning out of control in all directions. It’s random and without purpose, and therefor in a strange way almost more violent and volatile.

Sackett on May 31, 2010 at 2:40 PM

Israel is in BIG trouble ’cause like those paintballs can really leave a mark.

trapeze on May 31, 2010 at 2:40 PM

Sure are ‘scrappy’ for “Pacifists”.

GarandFan on May 31, 2010 at 2:42 PM

I think the most surreal part of the first video was seeing an IDF troop and paintball hopper silhouette to the right and an IDF soldier being beaten on the ground to the left. That’s as about grotesquely picturesque as you can get. IDF totally justified.

Weight of Glory on May 31, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Paintball, Isreal? Seriously?? Why not cosplay next time? A Renaissance Fair joust?

Sheesh, just blow ‘em up next time.

fivefeetoffury on May 31, 2010 at 2:45 PM

Has the entire world gone mad?

turfmann on May 31, 2010 at 2:30 PM

There were only a few years when it was not mad, when it was lead by Ronaldus Maximus.

pedestrian on May 31, 2010 at 2:46 PM

IDF totally justified.

Weight of Glory on May 31, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Amen.

prince of dorkness on May 31, 2010 at 2:46 PM

Islam. A peaceful religion. Not a religion of hate.
Unless you are a Jew I guess.

JeffinOrlando on May 31, 2010 at 2:48 PM

Maybe next time they use airsoft pellets…they really sting.

Seriously, though, the islamofascists are lucky that only ten were killed. After seeing the video…well, I would have broken out the Mossberg pumps after about two minutes of that BS.

trapeze on May 31, 2010 at 2:49 PM

Islam. A peaceful religion. Not a religion of hate.
Unless you are a Jew I guess.

JeffinOrlando on May 31, 2010 at 2:48 PM

First they came for..

the_nile on May 31, 2010 at 2:49 PM

The cops acted stupidly, the Arizonians acted stupidly, the Louisianians acted stupidly and the Israelis acted stupidly. This is all Bush’s fault.

Tav on May 31, 2010 at 2:49 PM

There is no video evidence or testimony you can provide, no facts offered, nothing that will move the worldwide anti-Israeli media cartel to change its narrative either of this event or any other. The story here has aready been written by the MSM, indeed was written before the IDF even appeared on this scene. “Israeli’s descend on peace activists and open fire.” That’s it. Finished.

rrpjr on May 31, 2010 at 2:49 PM

Pay close attention to those Israeli nuclear subs patrolling within range of Damascus, Beruit, and Tehran. No Iraqui airspace to contend with. I’m thinking the Israelis would like to hold off till after our midterm elections but time isn’t on their side. A missle attck on Tel Aviv and the balloon goes up.

a capella on May 31, 2010 at 2:50 PM

“Peace activists” aren’t for peace, they’re for the other side.

rbj on May 31, 2010 at 2:50 PM

Let that be a lesson to Israel.

Next time a bunch of fools try to run a naval blockade, rather than break out the non-lethal pepperballs,

You put several 4″ naval gun rounds through their hull and toss them some life-rafts.
Jones Zemkophill on May 31, 2010 at 2:40 PM

I got a better idea: torpedo ‘em, then blame it on the NORKS.

Virus-X on May 31, 2010 at 2:51 PM

Paintball gun = aim for the eyes and face.
Just sayin……

bbz123 on May 31, 2010 at 2:51 PM

“The people on the boat acted stupidly.”The IDF was attacked plain and simple. We all know what the UN will say. The community organizers of this flotilla would be associates of bo’s.

tim c on May 31, 2010 at 2:52 PM

U.S.’s endorsement of a nuclear-free Middle East. That policy won’t do a lick of good to stop Iran but it will catalyze Muslims opposition to Israel’s arsenal, a master stroke which Richard Fernandez describes thusly: “Like a circular-running torpedo it managed to miss its every intended target — missing North Korea and Iran — while hitting Israel.”

Smart torpedo = Smart diplomacy.

What we have here is real transparency.

ontherocks on May 31, 2010 at 2:52 PM

The UN Security Council is holding an emergency meeting as I write this, which is interesting since, to my knowledge, it has yet to meet to condemn the North Korean attack on that South Korean ship that’s had the far east inching towards a war footing for months.

Maybe Netanyahu has a point after all about Israel being isolated by the international community.

Not that anything is going to change by acknowledging Netanyahu’s points. A final confrontation seems all but inevitable to me. What other solution is there?

Otis B on May 31, 2010 at 2:53 PM

God will damn those who come against Israel eventually. That is my only solace. There really is a special place in hell for the MSM. I don’t know but I picture them having to look at Helen Thomas for a 1000 years and listen to her ask questions to Robert Gibbs. Then they are required to go over and give her a hug! :-)

wepeople on May 31, 2010 at 2:55 PM

Hey, Israel- you have torpedoes. Use ‘em.

Fletch54 on May 31, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Next time, one round across the bow.
If they don’t stop, they swim to Gaza.

docjohn52 on May 31, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Just blow them out of the effin water and be done with it. Extra points if loudmouth Cynthia McKinney is on board.

Blake on May 31, 2010 at 2:59 PM

This is a provocation pure and simple. The supporters of this blockade run bear ALL responsibility for this incident.

The EU wants and inquiry and condemns Israel…?

The vessel proceeded from Cyprus?!? Not much to inquire about, plainly supports running guns and aid via humanitarian cover. Don’t want violence like this to occur, don’t allow the flotilla to proceed from Cyprus.

Everyone of those muldoons on the vessel in video #1 is wearing a gas/protective mask. Why would they do that? (Rhetorical question….)

Yes a couple of 120 mm rounds through their hulls, in international waters, would make for a very long swim.

lpierson on May 31, 2010 at 3:00 PM

ONLY 9 DEAD – Can HotAir please stop following memes by others

faraway on May 31, 2010 at 3:00 PM

A final confrontation seems all but inevitable to me. What other solution is there?

Otis B on May 31, 2010 at 2:53 PM

Seems wiser to have it now than after Iran gets its nuke, doesn’t it?

a capella on May 31, 2010 at 3:01 PM

The bravery of those soldiers to enter the melee with paintball guns is amazing. The Israeli command has hopefully learned their lesson.

pedestrian on May 31, 2010 at 3:02 PM

Hmm, I think im getting the hang of HA logic. Humanitarian crises must only be responded to by people who would not resist being prevented from entering a crisis zone.

I wonder, why you all felt so differently when it was Iranians getting killed by police for resisting.

ernesto on May 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM

There is no video evidence or testimony you can provide, no facts offered, nothing that will move the worldwide anti-Israeli media cartel to change its narrative either of this event or any other. The story here has aready been written by the MSM, indeed was written before the IDF even appeared on this scene. “Israeli’s descend on peace activists and open fire.” That’s it. Finished.

rrpjr on May 31, 2010 at 2:49 PM

That.

CityFish on May 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Seems wiser to have it now than after Iran gets its nuke, doesn’t it?

a capella on May 31, 2010 at 3:01 PM

I suppose.

I wonder if it matters, though, whether Iran has a nuke or not. It seems to me that eventually Israel will be forced into so tight a corner that they will consider first use a viable option, and then it will go global.

I keep thinking about the SCUDs Syria transferred to Hizballah.

Otis B on May 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM

Paintball gun = aim for the eyes and face.
Just sayin……

bbz123 on May 31, 2010 at 2:51 PM

The “protesters” were prepared for that, they were wearing full-face gas masks, and life jackets with lots of cushy foam. Paint balls were useless, even if they were pepper spray balls.

Suggestion for the IDF: Mount the paint ball reservoirs on some Uzis, and let the creeps see what happens when they rush the soldiers. Imagine their surprise when they find out those are not paint ball guns. Heh.

iurockhead on May 31, 2010 at 3:07 PM

Hmm, I think im getting the hang of HA logic. Humanitarian crises must only be responded to by people who would not resist being prevented from entering a crisis zone.

I wonder, why you all felt so differently when it was Iranians getting killed by police for resisting.

ernesto on May 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM

The only humanitarian crisis in gaza is Hamas.

Iranians protested for freedom , this flotilla against.

the_nile on May 31, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Hmm, I think im getting the hang of HA logic. Humanitarian crises must only be responded to by people who would not resist being prevented from entering a crisis zone.

I wonder, why you all felt so differently when it was Iranians getting killed by police for resisting.

ernesto on May 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM

No one here is fooled by moral equivalence.

pedestrian on May 31, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Is further isolating Israel when it’s already desperate over Iran’s nuclear program and Hezbollah’s missile capacity a wise idea? We’re about to find out, I think.

We already know the answer.

AUINSC on May 31, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Turkey is calling a meeting of NATO.

aengus on May 31, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Hmm, I think im getting the hang of HA logic. Humanitarian crises must only be responded to by people who would not resist being prevented from entering a crisis zone.

I wonder, why you all felt so differently when it was Iranians getting killed by police for resisting.

ernesto on May 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Not even close but good try. They were allowed to ship their goods and in fact after the melee the Israelis in fact escorted them to the correct port.

Seems some was as educated as you would know that and not spin the facts.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 3:10 PM

For all of you dips who attack the IDF for their actions … watch the frackin’ video you Idiotsticks!

The media’s take on this is nothing short of stupidity.

ORrighty on May 31, 2010 at 3:10 PM

some was= someone

fifm

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 3:11 PM

It is now reported that the Turks may send more ships to Gaza. And they may be escorted by Turkish warships and fighter planes.

Israel braces for Turkish, Hizballah, Hamas reprisals. Greece halts joint drill

aengus on May 31, 2010 at 3:11 PM

Hmm, I think im getting the hang of HA logic. Humanitarian crises must only be responded to by people who would not resist being prevented from entering a crisis zone.

I wonder, why you all felt so differently when it was Iranians getting killed by police for resisting.

ernesto on May 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM

The IDF instructed them to go to an Isreali port, where the humanitarian cargo could be transferred to other transportation and sent to Gaza.

The Isrealis are not trying to prevent aid from reaching Gaza, they are trying to prevent weapons from reaching Hamas. Is that really so hard to understand?

iurockhead on May 31, 2010 at 3:12 PM

Aleph on May 31, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Cut it out.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 3:12 PM

I wonder, why you all felt so differently when it was Iranians getting killed by police for resisting.

ernesto on May 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Moral equivalence and blindness in the face of evil is depravity.

Tav on May 31, 2010 at 3:12 PM

Turkey is calling a meeting of NATO.

aengus on May 31, 2010 at 3:09 PM

This should be interesting. Invoking Article 5?

Otis B on May 31, 2010 at 3:12 PM

The great dream of Islam will soon come true. Muslims dream to see flags that read: “There is no God but Allah” fluttering in the wind over the White House, the Pentagon, the Temple Mount and Haram al-Sharif, and over Hotair, Allah willing.

Hot Air is immune from sharia law. We have Allahpundit law.

Not even the commies can stop the power of the internet.

percysunshine on May 31, 2010 at 3:12 PM

Is that really so hard to understand?

iurockhead on May 31, 2010 at 3:12 PM

He doesn’t want to understand.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 3:13 PM

You should read the antisemitism comments over at the Huffington Post. They accused Israel of war crimes in Lebanon.

ZoneDaiatlas on May 31, 2010 at 3:13 PM

In a world that consistently refuses to reward civility, savagery sooner or later becomes inevitable. When Israel looks back over it’s history, and analyzes it’s current treatment by the ruling international elites, the brutal logic of survival will reduce the available options down to the last one; strike before you are stricken! When your most single-minded and determined enemy acquires an ultimate weapon, and all of your fair-weather friends have betrayed you, there are finally no civilized choices left. Only savage ones!
God help us all, because we’ve gone down this road before and we know the horror at it’s end. Pray it’s not our end as well.

Lew on May 31, 2010 at 3:15 PM

Screw the left

rob verdi on May 31, 2010 at 3:15 PM

Turkey is calling a meeting of NATO.

aengus on May 31, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Joe the Plumber: A vote for Obama is a vote for the death of Israel.

Joe knew.

the_nile on May 31, 2010 at 3:16 PM

Turkey is calling a meeting of NATO.

aengus on May 31, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Turkey should be expelled from NATO.

Tav on May 31, 2010 at 3:16 PM

Paintball, Isreal? Seriously?? Why not cosplay next time? A Renaissance Fair joust?

Sheesh, just blow ‘em up next time.

fivefeetoffury on May 31, 2010 at 2:45 PM

I agree. The next time the IDF should board a ship and throw pebbles at the crew while shouting “Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt!”

Rambotito on May 31, 2010 at 3:17 PM

If I were IDF I’m not sure I would have released that film. There are young Muslim men everywhere now cheering and celebrating this. What a disaster. I think militant Islamists will use it as a recruiting tool.

chris999 on May 31, 2010 at 3:19 PM

That policy won’t do a lick of good to stop Iran but it will catalyze Muslims opposition to Israel’s arsenal, a master stroke which Richard Fernandez describes thusly: “Like a circular-running torpedo it managed to miss its every intended target — missing North Korea and Iran — while hitting Israel.”

Heh. That would assume that Israel wasn’t the intended – and only intended – target.

Vyce on May 31, 2010 at 3:21 PM

Turkey should be expelled from NATO.

Tav on May 31, 2010 at 3:16 PM

If Turkey, as they have threatened, does send military escorts for the blockade runners, then that will be an act of war against Isreal. And they are likely to get their butts handed to them.

You are correct, they should be booted out of NATO, if they follow through on that threat.

iurockhead on May 31, 2010 at 3:21 PM

In a world that consistently refuses to reward civility, savagery sooner or later becomes inevitable. When Israel looks back over it’s history, and analyzes it’s current treatment by the ruling international elites, the brutal logic of survival will reduce the available options down to the last one; strike before you are stricken! When your most single-minded and determined enemy acquires an ultimate weapon, and all of your fair-weather friends have betrayed you, there are finally no civilized choices left. Only savage ones!
God help us all, because we’ve gone down this road before and we know the horror at it’s end. Pray it’s not our end as well.

Lew on May 31, 2010 at 3:15 PM

You must, therefore know that there are two means of fighting: one according to the laws, the other with force; the first way is proper to man, the second to beasts; but because the first, in many cases, is not sufficient, it becomes necessary to have recourse to the second. (Niccolo Machiavelli)

Tav on May 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM

I keep thinking about the SCUDs Syria transferred to Hizballah.

Otis B on May 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM

Certainly. Plus, I’m sure the jihadis have chemical and biological weapons close at hand. If Turkey decides to drag in NATO and/or send more aid ships to Gaza accompanied by warships and fighter planes, I can see this thing going global in a flash. Pakistan is a worry in that case. very worrisome.

a capella on May 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM

You should read the antisemitism comments over at the Huffington Post. They accused Israel of war crimes in Lebanon.

ZoneDaiatlas on May 31, 2010 at 3:13 PM

If only it were just HuffPo – the anti-semites are out in full force today

CityFish on May 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM

Israel attacked by Obama family friend and mentor, Bill Ayers?

faraway on May 31, 2010 at 3:23 PM

iurockhead on May 31, 2010 at 3:21 PM

I don’t think Turkey wants war with Israel. This is all bluster.

chris999 on May 31, 2010 at 3:24 PM

If I were IDF I’m not sure I would have released that film. There are young Muslim men everywhere now cheering and celebrating this. What a disaster. I think militant Islamists will use it as a recruiting tool.

chris999 on May 31, 2010 at 3:19 PM

Any time anyone at all stands up to Islam they use it as a recruiting tool. Never submit.

Tav on May 31, 2010 at 3:25 PM

Israel attacked by Obama family friend and mentor, Bill Ayers?

faraway on May 31, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Great.

the_nile on May 31, 2010 at 3:27 PM

Anyway, anyone see Alan Colmes twitter? I hate self-haters like him.

Ian on May 31, 2010 at 2:31 PM

I’d rather sign up to have pins stuck in my eyes every 3 minutes.

Caper29 on May 31, 2010 at 3:27 PM

a capella on May 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM

Instant Biblical proportions.

justincase on May 31, 2010 at 3:27 PM

I’ve just seen this on TV. I can’t believe Israel would send its troops on any mission with paintball guns. I’m sure Dinnerjacket is laughing his ass off.

I hope they make a quick recovery and get back to not giving a damn about political correctness.

It’s apparent that we, the US, are not going to do much with the current situation, given we have the most disgraceful, weakest leader we’ve ever had.

I hope BiBi and the rest of Israel’s leadership will begin to behave as they used to and take no prisoners!

AJ on May 31, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Hmm, I think im getting the hang of HA logic. Humanitarian crises must only be responded to by people who would not resist being prevented from entering a crisis zone.

I wonder, why you all felt so differently when it was Iranians getting killed by police for resisting.

ernesto on May 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM

The humanitarian aid will reach its destination; were it not for the deliberate provocation and savage violence, it would have been there sooner.

When you run out of arguments, it’s time to stop arguing.

What has happened to you of late? You used to post with reasonable arguments. Are your true colors just now shining through, or have you lost all confidence in your philosophies, and flailing about illogically with flimsy strawmen has become your only recourse short of admitting your positions were flawed from the start?

hillbillyjim on May 31, 2010 at 3:30 PM

The IDF really thought they were facing off with “peace activists” here…

In the immortal words of the King in the Wizard of Id: “My army should be so peaceful.”

Blaise on May 31, 2010 at 3:31 PM

Martyrdom or Gaza…!!!

OK….

…. Martyrdom it is! Next!

Seven Percent Solution on May 31, 2010 at 3:31 PM

Isreal is always fighting with one hand tied behind their back. But with the enemies they have that is usually sufficient.

Extrafishy on May 31, 2010 at 3:31 PM

I stand with Israel, but those of us who so are in the minority.

CynicalOptimist on May 31, 2010 at 3:31 PM

According to the Jerusalem Post, when the Israeli soldiers came rappling down on the ropes from the helicopters, some of the “peace activists” tied the ropes to antennae on the ship, hoping it would pull the helicopters down on them and make them crash.

So they were willing to kill all 600 on the ship to make themselves martyrs and get to the Big Brothel in the Sky.

Wethal on May 31, 2010 at 3:32 PM

Iranians were resisting an authoritarian islamist terror state
“Peace activists” were ASSISTING an authoritarian islamist terror authority.

I see consistency in the response here

clnurnberg on May 31, 2010 at 3:34 PM

You are correct, they should be booted out of NATO, if they follow through on that threat.

Since Turkey is essentially a large aircraft carrier just south of Russia, they won’t be kicked out of NATO anytime soon. They got away with invading Northern Cyrpus for crying out loud.

aengus on May 31, 2010 at 3:36 PM

The UN is beyond worthless. They still haven’t gotten around to even issuing a tsk-tsk to North Korea after they SUNK A NAVY VESSEL.

But the IDF engages in self-defense against the most violent peace-loving people you ever saw? EMERGENCY MEETING! EVERYONE PANIC!

Red Cloud on May 31, 2010 at 3:36 PM

“..if you’re gonna pull that deck chair, pilgrim, you’d better be prepared to use it..”

The War Planner on May 31, 2010 at 3:36 PM

I see consistency in the response here

clnurnberg on May 31, 2010 at 3:34 PM

+10 with a /

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 3:36 PM

Ernie -so quiet. THat is what happens when a troll is put in its place.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 3:37 PM

Hmm, I think im getting the hang of HA logic. Humanitarian crises must only be responded to by people who would not resist being prevented from entering a crisis zone.

I wonder, why you all felt so differently when it was Iranians getting killed by police for resisting.

ernesto on May 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM

The more I read this the more I realize that there is NO way Ernie has gone to college. The logic is just not there.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 3:38 PM

Tav on May 31, 2010 at 3:25 PM

You missed my point. This was a tactical victory for the Islamists. The IDF looks weak. That’s why it will be a recruiting tool.

chris999 on May 31, 2010 at 3:39 PM

Aleph on May 31, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Did I just read what I thought I read?

Is this guy joking?

If you’re trying to be funny, buddy, try another line of work cuz you ain’t good at it.

If you’re serious, you have absolutely no idea what you’re messing with.

Further, if this guy is indeed serious, he shouldn’t get the ban hammer, he should get the ban piledriver.

Words like that make someone like happyfeet look like a mosquito.

turfmann on May 31, 2010 at 3:39 PM

Agreed AP. If the US won’t have Israel’s back and the UN is run by Muslims and leftists salivating at destroying Israel (literally) Israel is in a position of it against the world and now has every sovereign right of survival to take whatever measures necessary to defend itself.

BizarrOworld…

Skywise on May 31, 2010 at 3:40 PM

Kaibar was a Jewish city, the slaughter and pillage of which Mohammed personally oversaw.

Death to Islam.

May Mohammed be forgotten.

Akzed on May 31, 2010 at 3:40 PM

Hmm, I think im getting the hang of HA logic.

ernesto on May 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Ernesto–may I call you Che? No, you aren’t getting the hang of HA logic or any other sort. You just ain’t as smart as you think you are, comrade.

cartooner on May 31, 2010 at 3:41 PM

Remember Forth Hood, Nidal Malik Hasan killed 14 innocent people.

And the left couldn’t find the outrage , but when Israel defends itself then there’s another story.

the_nile on May 31, 2010 at 3:43 PM

Did I just read what I thought I read?

Is this guy joking?

Yes, he’s joking.

Allahpundit on May 31, 2010 at 3:43 PM

Hmm, I think im getting the hang of HA logic. Humanitarian crises must only be responded to by people who would not resist being prevented from entering a crisis zone.

I wonder, why you all felt so differently when it was Iranians getting killed by police for resisting.

ernesto on May 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Hmm… I think I’m getting the hang of leftist logic. Delivering arms and ammunition to refugees should be called a “humanitarian relief” project and lawful police actions to enforce a sovereign state’s law using deadly weapons like “paintball guns” should be responded with mob violence and shooting those people.

I wonder why you leftists felt so different when it was Branch Davidians in Waco getting killed by police for resisting?

Skywise on May 31, 2010 at 3:46 PM

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