Bloody clash off Gaza coast leaves 10 dead

posted at 10:43 am on May 31, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

The preferred media headline so far this morning has been “Israelis kill 10 peace activists in Gaza flotilla,” but that’s not quite what happened.  The IDF attempted to head off a number of boats attempting to run the blockade on Gaza, a blockade necessitated by Hamas’ repeated attacks on Israel.  They boarded the lead ship by helicopter, expecting to either convince the occupants to turn back or to commandeer the boat themselves.  What they didn’t expect was to find armed “peace activists,” and a bloody melee ensued:

The left-wing activists on board a flotilla carrying aid to the Gaza Strip tried to lynch the Israel Navy commandos who stormed their Turkish-flagged ship early Monday, Israel Defense Forces sources told Haaretz.

The commandos, who intercepted the Turkish ferry Mavi Marmara after it ignored orders to turn back, said they encountered violent resistance from activists armed with sticks and knives. According to the soldiers, the activists threw one of their comrades from the upper deck to the lower after they boarded.

Activists attacked a commando with iron bars as he descended onto the ship from a helicopter, the army said. The IDF said its rules of engagement allowed troops to open fire in what it called a “life-threatening situation”.

The soldiers said they were forced to open fire after the activists struck one of their comrades in the head and trampled on him. A senior field commander ordered the soldiers then to respond with fire, a decision which the commandos said received full backing the military echelon.

At least 10 people were killed and several more wounded after the Israel Navy troops opened fire on the six-ship flotilla. Unofficial reports put the death toll at between 14 and 20.

Ynet has a more detailed timeline of the confrontation:

A few minutes before the takeover attempt aboard the Marmara got underway, the operation commander was told that 20 people were waiting on the deck where a helicopter was to deploy the first team of the elite Flotilla 13 unit. The original plan was to disembark on the top deck, and from there rush to the vessel’s bridge and order the Marmara’s captain to stop.

Officials estimated that passengers will show slight resistance, and possibly minor violence; for that reason, the operation’s commander decided to bring the helicopter directly above the top deck. The first rope that soldiers used in order to descend down to the ship was wrested away by activists, most of them Turks, and tied to an antenna with the hopes of bringing the chopper down. However, Flotilla 13 fighters decided to carry on.

Navy commandoes slid down to the vessel one by one, yet then the unexpected occurred: The passengers that awaited them on the deck pulled out bats, clubs, and slingshots with glass marbles, assaulting each soldier as he disembarked. The fighters were nabbed one by one and were beaten up badly, yet they attempted to fight back.

However, to their misfortune, they were only equipped with paintball rifles used to disperse minor protests, such as the ones held in Bilin. The paintballs obviously made no impression on the activists, who kept on beating the troops up and even attempted to wrest away their weapons.

One soldier who came to the aid of a comrade was captured by the rioters and sustained severe blows. The commandoes were equipped with handguns but were told they should only use them in the face of life-threatening situations. When they came down from the chopper, they kept on shouting to each other “don’t shoot, don’t shoot,” even though they sustained numerous blows.

The Navy commandoes were prepared to mostly encounter political activists seeking to hold a protest, rather than trained street fighters. The soldiers were told they were to verbally convince activists who offer resistance to give up, and only then use paintballs. They were permitted to use their handguns only under extreme circumstances.

The planned rush towards the vessel’s bridge became impossible, even when a second chopper was brought in with another crew of soldiers. “Throw stun grenades,” shouted Flotilla 13’s commander who monitored the operation. The Navy chief was not too far, on board a speedboat belonging to Flotilla 13, along with forces who attempted to climb into the back of the ship.

The forces hurled stun grenades, yet the rioters on the top deck, whose number swelled up to 30 by that time, kept on beating up about 30 commandoes who kept gliding their way one by one from the helicopter. At one point, the attackers nabbed one commando, wrested away his handgun, and threw him down from the top deck to the lower deck, 30 feet below. The soldier sustained a serious head wound and lost his consciousness.

Only after this injury did Flotilla 13 troops ask for permission to use live fire. The commander approved it: You can go ahead and fire. The soldiers pulled out their handguns and started shooting at the rioters’ legs, a move that ultimately neutralized them. Meanwhile, the rioters started to fire back at the commandoes.

Ynet notes that the IDF should learn two lessons from this. First, paintball rifles won’t work against so-called peace activists when they’re armed and inclined to fight. That’s probably even more true in an in-close confrontation, such as on a boat. Paintballs sting, as anyone who has played war games with them attest, but once antagonists understand that’s all they do, they won’t provide any deterrent value at all.

The second lesson Ynet takes is that the soldiers should have considered the fact that their arrival was hardly a surprise and planned accordingly, but really, the IDF and the Israelis were foolish to assume that these activists had non-violent intentions in the first place. The demonstration was in support of Hamas, hardly a group dedicated to non-violence and peaceful coexistence. That assumption put their soldiers’ lives at risk unnecessarily and allowed planners to eschew a more muscular entry to the boat — which could have saved lives on both sides of the equation with an initial use of overwhelming force.

The world will blame Israel for this, but the blockade exists to keep weapons out of the hands of Hamas, which continually attacks Israel despite the latter’s withdrawal from Gaza years ago. It’s a legitimate and necessary military response to Hamas’ terrorism, and the flotilla knowingly sailed itself into a military conflict — and carried arms into it as well. That makes them legitimate antagonists in the conflict and fair game for Israeli’s military.

Update: Say, it’s probably a good thing the IDF had its video cameras rolling:

Update II: Via Cubachi, the group behind the flotilla has a history of supporting violent jihad and anti-Westernism:

Prominent among the coalition organizations participating in the aid flotilla scheduled to arrive in the Gaza Strip in the coming days is the Turkish IHH (Insani Yardim Vakfi, IHH, “humanitarian relief fund”). It is a radical Islamic organization which was established in 1992 and formally registered in Istanbul in 1995. It is headed by Bülent Yildirim.  …

In practice, besides its legitimate humanitarian activities, IHH supports radical Islamic terrorist networks. Inrecent years it has prominently supported Hamas (through the Union of Good). In addition, the ITIC has reliable information that in the past IHH provided logistical support and funding to global jihad networks.

IHH’s orientation is radical-Islamic and anti-American, and it is close to the Muslim Brotherhood(Hamas’ parent movement). IHH supports Hamas and does not hide the connection between them. Hamas also considers its links to IHH and Turkey to be extremely important, and regards Turkey as a target audience for its propaganda network (Palestine-Information, Hamas’ main website, has a Turkish version, and as of the end of 2009, the website of its military wing, the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, has also appeared in Turkish).

In recent years, especially since Hamas took over the Gaza Strip, IHH has supported Hamas’ propaganda campaigns by organizing public support conferences in Turkey. At those conferences, which featured the participation of senior IHH figures, the heads of IHH expressed their support for Hamas and its strategy (including the armed struggle it favors), in defiance of the Palestinian Authority, Hamas’ rival.

IHH is a member of the Union of Good, an umbrella organization of more than 50 Islamic funds and foundations around the globe, which channels money into Hamas institutions in the Palestinian Authority-administered territories. As a Union of Good member IHH has connections with other worldwide Islamic funds and foundations which support Hamas. Among other things, the support includes initiating and conducting joint projects whose objectives are to bolster the de facto Hamas administration in the Gaza Strip and Hamas’ civilian infrastructure in Judea and Samaria, which also supports terrorism (the infrastructure is under pressure from the Palestinian Authority security services). IHH, which has become an important factor in global fund-raising for Hamas, transfers significant amounts of money to Hamas institutions in Judea and Samaria, including the Islamic Charitable Society in Hebron and the Al-Tadhamun Charitable Society in Nablus (Hamas’ two central “charitable societies,” both outlawed by Israel).

IHH operates widely throughout the Gaza Strip. To promote its activities it opened a branch there, headed by Muhammad Kaya, who recently stated that IHH intended to send other aid flotillas to the Gaza Strip (See below). In January 2008 an IHH delegation met with Ahmed Bahar, a senior Hamas activist who is acting chairman of Hamas’ council in the Gaza Strip. At the meeting the delegation revealed the extent of the aid it had given Hamas in the Gaza Strip during the preceding year and said it intended to double the sum in the future. In January 2009 IHH head Bülent Yildirim met with Khaled Mashaal, chairman of Hamas’ political bureau in Damascus, and Mashaal thanked him for the support of his organization.

Israel expelled IHH from Gaza in 2008, along with 35 other organizations associated with the Union of Good.

Update III: And here we have a “peace activist” repeatedly stabbing an IDF soldier, via Orit Sklar on Twitter:

Yup, a really good thing the IDF brought along its video cameras …

Update V: A few commenters point out that this took place in international waters, not in Gaza’s waters, and therefore consider Israel’s actions illegitimate.  However, the flotilla had already announced their intention to run the blockade, making them belligerent and giving the Israelis a reason to interdict them.  And are we to believe that the “peace activists” would have surrendered peacefully had this action taken them within the 12-mile limit?  I see no reason to believe that; indeed, it looks as though they were prepared for armed confrontation.

Update VI: Noel Sheppard at Newsbusters takes a look at the news coverage of the incident.


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Let’s wait for more of the facts to come out to determine who did what to whom.

Jimbo3 on May 31, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Says the guy who has spent the last hour arguing that the Israelis who fired live rounds weren’t justified in doing so.

As I said earlier, semantic tip toe.

BadgerHawk on May 31, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Let’s wait for more of the facts to come out to determine who did what to whom.

Jimbo3 on May 31, 2010 at 12:23 PM

So we should not speculate, meanwhile you can wonder why the IDF is shooting somebody with a knife “40 feet away?”

Nice double standard you’ve got their…

cs89 on May 31, 2010 at 12:30 PM

So, they fastrope one operator at a time, armed with a paintball gun, down onto a deck that wasn’t even prepped with at least gas? Odd. Say it ain’t so.

justltl on May 31, 2010 at 12:30 PM

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Oh no you don’t . You don’t like the blockade. Nice try though. Try again!

Seriously grow up.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Amazing how much human trash surfaces in response to Israelis defending themselves. Wonder if Obuma has a par yet?

volsense on May 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Oh and you just don’t like Israeli blockades.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM

BTW “Butterfly-dragon-fly” the people who ant to kill Jews want to kill us too. If they were in Mexico they’d be firing rockets into San Diego!

rebuzz on May 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM

The neo-nazi is whining because people have pegged it as an anti-Semite. Yes, nazi, I have found that the majority of people who “despise Israel government policy” tend to be either terrorist sympathizers or nazis. Of course, it is in the nature of terrorist sympathizers or nazis to lie and pretend its just about “Israel government policy.”

pearson on May 31, 2010 at 12:14 PM

Wow, I’m a neo-Nazi? Really? Interesting debate tactics you have there. Democrat?

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Israel wins the battle, loses the war.

eat your Wheaties next time, “deep thinker”.

runner on May 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM

-I can’t see any knifes (or guns) in the video.

Jimbo3 on May 31, 2010 at 12:13 PM

Check the video under Update III. Watch from 0:12 to 0:30.

Jimbo3- Nazi tool.

How many knive stabs until the Jew is allowed to shoot in self defence? Answer dipshite.

dIb on May 31, 2010 at 12:32 PM

I still have not seen one of the trolls use the words Egyptian Blockade even after that great post. Hmmmmm

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 12:28 PM

The word JEW or ZIONIST wasn’t in the post, so of course, they automatically skipped over the comment.

portlandon on May 31, 2010 at 12:32 PM

So we should not speculate, meanwhile you can wonder why the IDF is shooting somebody with a knife “40 feet away?”

Nice double standard you’ve got their…

cs89 on May 31, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Check– mate

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Oh and you just don’t like Israeli blockades.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM

You do realize that the IDF allowed other ships in the past to go through the blockade and deliver their supplies? Right?

Earlier this year is when they decided to try to enforce the blockade to be a complete shutdown.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:32 PM

No wonder il Duce is looking for ways to shut down internet content.

It would be so awesome if kids under 30 were aware what this ba$tard has in store for their sheltered little lives.

Don’t get too attached to that freedom, little ones. You elected a thug. We old folk have seen this before, in Europe. You youngsters are in for a heck of a jolt.

jeff_from_mpls on May 31, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Here’s another video that shows the Israelis being beaten with pipes and chairs… watch closely, the video also shows clearly that the Israelis were armed with paintball markers and attempted to engage their attackers with them!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo

jasetaro on May 31, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Actually, I despise Israel government policy. I hate this blanket statement thrown by people (race card anyone?) that if you don’t agree with Israel policy, you’re an anti-Semite. That’s BS and you guys know it.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:10 PM

You said “I know why Israel is hated” — I gave you the answer. Your “fine distinctions” (people vs government) are lost on Hamas. They hate Jews. They want to kill Jews. Iran wants to kill Jews. Hezbollah wants to kill Jews. The Jews in Israel Know that there are many who want to kill Jews. That’s certainly not BS!

rebuzz on May 31, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Re-post to keep it in the new column

rebuzz on May 31, 2010 at 12:33 PM

My point is, the good guys like Israel get their side of the story out through the Internet.

Thugs want that to stop.

jeff_from_mpls on May 31, 2010 at 12:33 PM

When it is determined this ship was funneling weapons into Gaza, I will accept your response as precognitive reasoning, but until then I see it as a blanket statement attempting to justify the murder of 10 civilians.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Israel has stopped multiple weapons smuggling ships. They dont now what’s on the ship until they search it. If they get attacked while searching it they have to defend themselves.

the_nile on May 31, 2010 at 12:34 PM

Self defense? How is boarding a vessel in international waters considered “self defense”?

The people on that vessel were the ones practicing self defense. They were not in Israeli territory. They were in international waters.

Are you proposing any United States Navy vessel in international waters (say the Persian Gulf) is open for Iran to board at their leisure and we cannot do anything about it?

[ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:05 PM]

The boarding of the ship was not the self-defense. The shooting of the attackers after boarding was.

You have a very ignorant view of when boarding can and can’t take place. Ships are boarded in international waters all the time.

Of course you can take the view that the activists were acting in self-defense, just as I can take the view that Israeli’s were. You can say the activists were where the were, doing what they were doing, legitimately just as I can say the Israelis were where they were, doing what they were doing, legitimately. All this means is that you side with Hamas and the Palestinians and I side with the Israeli’s.

When was the last time Israelis political figures engaged in throwing their political opponents from rooftops?

Dusty on May 31, 2010 at 12:35 PM

But just like Democrats,

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Wow, I’m a neo-Nazi? Really? Interesting debate tactics you have there. Democrat?

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Pot meet kettle. So all democrats are the same?

You seriously are LAUGHABLE.

Earlier this year is when they decided to try to enforce the blockade to be a complete shutdown.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:32 PM

And?

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Jimbo:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8442758.stm

You probably never saw it because it doesn’t make Israel look bad, therefore it wasn’t given a lot of airplay.

Good Solid B-Plus on May 31, 2010 at 12:35 PM

No wonder il Duce is looking for ways to shut down internet content.

It would be so awesome if kids under 30 were aware what this ba$tard has in store for their sheltered little lives.

Don’t get too attached to that freedom, little ones. You elected a thug. We old folk have seen this before, in Europe. You youngsters are in for a heck of a jolt.

jeff_from_mpls on May 31, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Well he said all this information could be “confusing”.

the_nile on May 31, 2010 at 12:36 PM

You do realize that the IDF allowed other ships in the past to go through the blockade and deliver their supplies? Right?

Earlier this year is when they decided to try to enforce the blockade to be a complete shutdown.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:32 PM

It makes you wonder what was in the cargo hold of ONE ship of seven which the armed “peace activists” decided to fight over the death for, doesn’t it?

What was different about THIS ship?

portlandon on May 31, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Earlier this year is when they decided to try to enforce the blockade to be a complete shutdown.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:32 PM

hamas on your mind ? sharia calling ? hezbollah got your fancy ?

runner on May 31, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Seriously, think about it, there is about 1.5 million people living in Gaza. Do people really believe all 1.5 million of those people are terrorists intent upon destroying Israel? If you believe that, you’ve fallen for propaganda.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:25 PM

The propaganda here is coming from you. They are taught by Islam and it’s books and by their Imams and teachers to hate Jews (aka Pigs and Apes) since birth. No, not every single one of them is a terrorist intent upon destroying Israel but that is a Red Herring on Steroids on your part.

Tav on May 31, 2010 at 12:37 PM

nothing in the video that I see convinces me that Israel was justified in killing ten people in this situation. I think Israel botched the planning for this.

Jimbo3 on May 31, 2010 at 12:21 PM

So if the Hamas supporters got two of the Israelis’ pistols and turned them on the Israelis, but the camera was not pointing in the direction at the time…eyewitness testimony doesn’t matter, but only video evidence is admissible?

Do you do litigation? I’d hope my opponents were this clueless about evidence in court.

Wethal on May 31, 2010 at 12:27 PM

–It will be a “he said vs. she said” thing in that case.

Jimbo3 on May 31, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Do people really believe all 1.5 million of those people are terrorists intent upon destroying Israel? If you believe that, you’ve fallen for propaganda.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:25 PM

I’m sure there are 2 or 3 that are very nice people. /

portlandon on May 31, 2010 at 12:38 PM

jasetaro on May 31, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Whoa. Now that we have Jimbo willing to watch videos before commenting, maybe he can take a peek at this one.

You can clearly see the paintball rifles also, easily identifiable by the hopper on top. I would have expected them to be using paint bullets, but maybe they wanted to make it very clear to the people on the ship that they didn’t want to provoke violence.

As I said earlier, it’s almost like they were expecting this to be a peaceful convoy of ships.

BadgerHawk on May 31, 2010 at 12:38 PM

Gaza is getting what Gaza richly deserves. Seriously , terrorism is a bad investment.

runner on May 31, 2010 at 12:39 PM

Seriously, think about it, there is about 1.5 million people living in Gaza. Do people really believe all 1.5 million of those people are terrorists intent upon destroying Israel? If you believe that, you’ve fallen for propaganda.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:25 PM

How many does it take to make a “clear and present danger to Israeli civilians? AND how many of those “innocents” are opposing Hamas? how many helping Hamas? Wake up!

rebuzz on May 31, 2010 at 12:39 PM

As your Jew-master, I order you to bring me a coconut..

TexasJew on May 31, 2010 at 12:15 PM

LOL!!!

AsianGirlInTights on May 31, 2010 at 12:39 PM

Strange that I don’t remember any on the Left trying to bring up the Laws of the Sea in regards to Hezbollah’s attack of an unarmed merchantman. Or to Nasrallah’s threats towards Israel:

“If you (Israel) put our coasts under siege in any future war, I say all military, civilian and commercial ships heading to Palestine’s coasts on the Mediterranean will be under the fire of the Islamic resistance fighters,” he said via a video-link in a ceremony marking the 10th anniversary of Israel’s withdrawal from south Lebanon.

Earlier this year Nasrallah threatened to hit Israel’s Ben Gurion airport if the Jewish state struck Beirut’s international airport in any future conflict.

“(As for) those ships which will go to any port on the Palestinian coast from north to the south, (I say) we are capable of hitting it and are determined to go into this..if they besiege our coasts,” he said.

“When the world will witness how these ships will be destroyed in Palestine’s regional water nobody will dare to go there just as they will block (others) from coming to our coasts,” he told thousands of supporters.

I’m sure all the international law supporters will denounce such threats, especially after the group issuing them destroyed an unarmed merchantman.

And if you are a ‘peace activist’ going into an area where you believe you will have the support of a missile armed unaccountable terrorist group then just why should anyone feel that you are truly peaceful? Couldn’t you avoid a confrontation and not try to cause an incident if you really, and for true, wanted humanitarian aid to get through? Or do you really expect Nasrallah to sink ships in support of you to free up these waters?

It seems that someone has declared Private War on Israel, and it does have the right to respond.

ajacksonian on May 31, 2010 at 12:39 PM

Yeah, clearly you’re open-minded about the situation. Framing the deaths as “murder” gave it away.

Next time you get pulled over by a police officer, feel free to “defend” your vehicle by attacking the cop with a knife or iron club. See how that works out for ya.

Hollowpoint on May 31, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Well, there is a little bit of a difference. First, we would have to know who’s flag these ships were sailing under. That country’s laws will dictate whether the people on board had the right to self-defense in the fashion it did.

Driving my car down a public roadway in any state of the US, I know I have the right against unreasonable search and seizure, but I am under the law of that state and know I could not justify harming a police officer.

Comparing apples to elephants don’t work.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:39 PM

You do realize that the IDF allowed other ships in the past to go through the blockade and deliver their supplies? Right?

Earlier this year is when they decided to try to enforce the blockade to be a complete shutdown.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:32 PM

So if someone is a patsy once they are forever committed to being a patsy? Your illogic is breathtaking.

Tav on May 31, 2010 at 12:41 PM

Jimbo:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8442758.stm

You probably never saw it because it doesn’t make Israel look bad, therefore it wasn’t given a lot of airplay.

Good Solid B-Plus on May 31, 2010 at 12:35 PM

–It was one Eqyptian soldier killed, not ten and it was apparently from a long distance shot by a terrorist in Gaza. Not the same situation.

Jimbo3 on May 31, 2010 at 12:41 PM

rebuzz on May 31, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Truth

dIb on May 31, 2010 at 12:41 PM

Haven’t seen this many terrorist lovers on here in a long time. Thanks for reminding us who you are Jimbo3, lodge, et al. Shouldn’t be long before ernesto and The Race Card wake up and join the discussion.

As usual, the IDF has shown remarkable restraint in the face of personal harm.

Sporty1946 on May 31, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Wow. The hate is palpable from some of the trolls slithering out for this thread.

Hypocrites, all.

hillbillyjim on May 31, 2010 at 12:17 PM

Indeed. It is the height of absurdity for them to fling Nazi labels on people who don’t cheer on their pet nation, then whine like babies when the leftards call them very similar names for not supporting reverse Robin-Hoodery.

Dark-Star on May 31, 2010 at 12:42 PM

You do realize that the IDF allowed other ships in the past to go through the blockade and deliver their supplies? Right?

Earlier this year is when they decided to try to enforce the blockade to be a complete shutdown.

[ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:32 PM]

So what if they let other ships through before? These ships were notified they wouldn’t be let through to deliver at the location they preferred. You make it sound like the blockade would prevent the materials from getting through to the people of Gaza. That is not true. The ships were directed to another port where the materials would be delivered to Gaza via another route.

Dusty on May 31, 2010 at 12:42 PM

–It was one Eqyptian soldier killed, not ten and it was apparently from a long distance shot by a terrorist in Gaza. Not the same situation.

Jimbo3 on May 31, 2010 at 12:41 PM

Umm

An official with the Egyptian Ministry of Health told CNN a 21-year-old soldier had been shot twice in the back and died of his wounds

William Amos on May 31, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Possibly 19 dead

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1282802/Israeli-forces-kill-19-people-carrying-aid-ship-Gaza.html

For those who have not seen the video see it at the end of the article.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 12:43 PM

–It will be a “he said vs. she said” thing in that case.

Jimbo3 on May 31, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Ah, yes, Crediblity. A common issue. “So, Mr. Hamas supporter, were you shouting ‘Death to Israel! Death to Israelis!’ on that tape? You were? Thank you, no further questions.”

Also don’t forget the forensic evidence. Recovered bullets, bullet holes, casings, fingerprints, etc.

And then of course, we have the search of the hold to see if there really was just humanitarian aid in the containers.

Wethal on May 31, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Comparing apples to elephants don’t work.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:39 PM

Another adventure in missing the point! Look, Israel has the right to stop and inspect ships suspected of carrying weapons for Hamas. It’s illogical to think the don’t have that right. And the so-called humanitarians had nothing to fear if they were really carrying nothing but humanitarian aid. The soldiers were attacked! It was a set-up! Your falling for the propaganda!

rebuzz on May 31, 2010 at 12:44 PM

That is not true. The ships were directed to another port where the materials would be delivered to Gaza via another route.

Dusty on May 31, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Truth matters not. Like a little child he stamps his feet.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Driving my car down a public roadway in any state of the US, I know I have the right against unreasonable search and seizure, but I am under the law of that state and know I could not justify harming a police officer.

Comparing apples to elephants don’t work.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:39 PM

And if you ram your car through a police barricade and then fight back after they stop you, I doubt they’ll care much if you were delivering food and water to an orphanage.

Good Solid B-Plus on May 31, 2010 at 12:44 PM

@BadgerHawk from what I’ve read that’s what they were expecting… Unfortunately, is appears the people aboard the Mavi Marmara weren’t simple “peace activists”.

There’s another video on the IDF’s YouTube channel showing some of the sling shots, pipes and what looks like a gas mask used by the so called peace activists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAMFnu8ZBwk

jasetaro on May 31, 2010 at 12:47 PM

that if you don’t agree with Israel policy, you’re an anti-Semite. That’s BS and you guys know it.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 12:10 PM

There were plenty of anti-Semites before there was any Israel, or “Israel policy.” And it looks like there still are.

Emperor Norton on May 31, 2010 at 12:47 PM

I guess the big mouth racist ex-congresswoman Cynthia McKinney was on another ship or decided to stay ashore after they were warned not to try to run the blockade the other day. Anyone heard from her yet?

Sporty1946 on May 31, 2010 at 12:48 PM

t is the height of absurdity for them to fling Nazi labels on people who don’t cheer on their pet nation, then whine like babies when the leftards call them very similar names for not supporting reverse Robin-Hoodery.

Dark-Star on May 31, 2010 at 12:42 PM

When I figure out what that means I’ll come up with a crushing reply!

rebuzz on May 31, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Indeed. It is the height of absurdity for them to fling Nazi labels on people who don’t cheer on their pet nation, then whine like babies when the leftards call them very similar names for not supporting reverse Robin-Hoodery.

Dark-Star on May 31, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Ah yes, “pet” nation. So Mr. Faux Above-the-Fray fence-sitter sees international conflict sort of like an NBA game? Israel vs. Hamas, just like Lakers vs. Celtics!

Good Solid B-Plus on May 31, 2010 at 12:54 PM

The media meme has already been written:

Israel = BAD (always BAD)

SouthernGent on May 31, 2010 at 12:54 PM

*** NEW VIDEO ***: http://ht.ly/1S70A

Very detailed CLOSE UP vid of peace activists beating soldiers with pipes, chairs, throwing IDF soldiers overboard.

Clearly shows IDF acting in self defense VS Islamists and their endless lies / propaganda.

saus on May 31, 2010 at 12:54 PM

It was a set-up! Your falling for the propaganda!

[rebuzz on May 31, 2010 at 12:44 PM]

Of course it was. And note the main ship was Turkish flagged. It was also reported that those on the ship were of Turkish nationality; we’ll have to wait to see if that’s accurate.

I have little doubt this set-up is intended to drive a bigger wedge between Israel and Turkey, and have a good feeling this was coordinated with, or at least blessed by, some in the Turkish government for just such a purpose.

Dusty on May 31, 2010 at 12:56 PM

To all the anti-semites that have left their b.s. comments here. F**K OFF!!!!

docdave on May 31, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Possibly 19 dead

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1282802/Israeli-forces-kill-19-people-carrying-aid-ship-Gaza.html

For those who have not seen the video see it at the end of the article.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 12:43 PM

A good start, I would say. These people knew what they were getting themselves into.

A shame those Jews keep fighting instead of surrendering like their ancestors did.

rockmom on May 31, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Good on the Israeli Navy for standing their ground. They should have killed the entire lot of them and sunk their ships to the sea floor.

Worthless terrorist sympathizers.

KSgop on May 31, 2010 at 12:59 PM

jasetaro on May 31, 2010 at 12:47 PM

I keep wondering about those slingshots and marbles. As opposed to pipes and knives, they aren’t easily explained away as just weapons that happened to be available in an emergency. Why in the world would they be part of the shipment? I also doubt the Israelis will find substantial miltary ordnance on board. The “peace” activists would not want that to be found and they were out to create a PR event which would assume the cargo would be examined.

a capella on May 31, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Let’s think
The “peace activists” decide to run a blockade — Israel intercepts and attempts to inspect — the soldiers are immediately attacked and they defend themselves — people are killed. Very sad but who’s at fault?

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-navy-commandos-gaza-flotilla-activists-tried-to-lynch-us-1.293089

rebuzz on May 31, 2010 at 1:05 PM

I think this conflict could have ended years ago. 1)Israel should make very clear that its policy will be to drop ten missiles for every one coming from their enemies. 2) Since their enemies insist on sending their best artillery for maximum damage and carnage, Israel should do the same. After a few exchanges, that crap would end. 3) Israel, through these exchanges, (say, after ten, as the world will become aware of Israel’s intended response)should let their enemies know that future exchanges will be ones where Israel will move to the offensive position, and begin leveling neighborhoods that allow artillery and enemy maneuvers and fortifications to develop. Soon the neighborhoods would no longer welcome the now known and stated response from Israel. Just sayin…

ndanielson on May 31, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Via the IDF twitter, the jihad ship is now in Ashdod:

Mavi Marmara, 6th ship in Gaza flotilla, now in the Ashdod Port – passengers currently being processed.

4 minutes ago via web

mudskipper on May 31, 2010 at 1:07 PM

Clearly shows IDF acting in self defense VS Islamists and their endless lies / propaganda.

saus on May 31, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Excellent video. It clearly shows how primal the “Peace Activists” were getting on the IDF. Those jerks were beating the IDF guys as soon as their feet hid the deck.

I’m shocked the IDF allowed the beating to go on as long as it did.

Why weren’t more killed?

portlandon on May 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Another adventure in missing the point! Look, Israel has the right to stop and inspect ships suspected of carrying weapons for Hamas. It’s illogical to think the don’t have that right. And the so-called humanitarians had nothing to fear if they were really carrying nothing but humanitarian aid. The soldiers were attacked! It was a set-up! Your falling for the propaganda!

rebuzz on May 31, 2010 at 12:44 PM

I have no doubt it was a setup. They intended to have a confrontation. But I do not think they expected 30 IDF commandos rappelling down to the ship. Just as the IDF didn’t expect violent resistance.

When making the decision to put themselves into a situation of being heavily outnumbered in a very tiny operating space, the IDF should have planned better. They didn’t, they killed civilians and now have an international image problem that is worse than before.

The Israeli past cannot be ignored when viewed from an opposing viewpoint. It doesn’t matter whether it’s truth or propaganda, I bet the vast majority of Palestinians believe IDF forces will shoot them dead first and then ask questions.

When living in that mindset on a daily basis (both sides, because many Israelis believe the same about an Arab) situations like this is like playing with matches in the bomb factory. The slightest spark and boom, there it all goes.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

What they didn’t expect was to find armed “peace activists,” and a bloody melee ensued

How this would have gone down when I was 16:

Me: “Okay. What is it.”
DM: “It looks like” *roll* “a large group of heavily armed Israeli warriors.”
Me: “How are they armed?”
DM: “Heavily. I already said that.”
Me: “Nothing more specific?”
DM: “Nothing you need to know about. Now quit stalling, what are you going to do? You still have that stick?”
Me: “Yep.”
DM: “Anything else?”
Me: “Nope.”
DM: “Any modifiers?”
Me: “Does passion count?”
DM: “Nope… Wait.” *rolls* “Nope.”
Me: “……I’m going for it.”
DM: “Dumbass. This is why we never ask you to play.”

29Victor on May 31, 2010 at 1:09 PM

They didn’t, they killed civilians

Define “civilian” please.

Aquateen Hungerforce on May 31, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Me: “Okay. What is it.”
DM: “It looks like” *roll* “a large group of heavily armed Israeli warriors.”
Me: “How are they armed?”
DM: “Heavily. I already said that.”
Me: “Nothing more specific?”
DM: “Nothing you need to know about. Now quit stalling, what are you going to do? You still have that stick?”
Me: “Yep.”
DM: “Anything else?”
Me: “Nope.”
DM: “Any modifiers?”
Me: “Does passion count?”
DM: “Nope… Wait.” *rolls* “Nope.”
Me: “……I’m going for it.”
DM: “Dumbass. This is why we never ask you to play.”

29Victor on May 31, 2010 at 1:09 PM

I demand a roll on the percentiles to see if Allah intercedes with his divine anger.

Good Solid B-Plus on May 31, 2010 at 1:10 PM

They didn’t, they killed civilians and now have an international image problem that is worse than before.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

RULE #1: WHEN YOU PICK UP A WEAPON AND START USING IT, YOU NO LONGER BECOME A CIVILIAN.

My God ButterflyDragon, are you that stupid? There were no civilians killed on that ship.

portlandon on May 31, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Moral blindness in the face of evil is depravity, but in the upside-down universe of some today, moral blindness has become some kind of a badge of honor and moral superiority. If you refuse to call Islam by its name, then you are a moderate. If you stand up to Islam in any way, however restrained, you are to them an extremist and even a murderer. This embrace of moral blindness as an emblem of sophistication is psychopathic.

Tav on May 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM

Thanks for the video links, Ed Morrissey. While the thanks are sincere, they are, I must admit, an intro to some more pwnage for you and Allah.

To wit: You deliberately and knowingly link up with a parent site that hosts one of the biggest antisemitic parasites in American journalism (It’s Pat!), drop to your knees before the son of the biggest antisemite in American politics (crazy uncle Ron) because his party name starts with “R,” leaving the diminishing number of sane people who read and comment here to contend with what appear to be a swishy martial arts otaku and a John Wayne Gacy wannabe. (“Jimbo” is a sick f*** name right out the gate.) Flies are drawn to this kind of stuff.

Ed Snyder on May 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM

I bet the vast majority of Palestinians believe IDF forces will shoot them dead first and then ask questions.

Then why would they throw rocks at IDF forces? If they think the IDF is so bloodthirsty, don’t you think they would run and hide instead of doing something as agressive and ineffective as throwing rocks?

Aquateen Hungerforce on May 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM

Getting some painting done today, so I don’t have time to read the whole thread. Is is safe to assume that all of the regular Ron Paul trolls have come out out condemn Israel and support the leftist blockade runners?

stefanite on May 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM

saus on May 31, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Thanks for the link. Great vid. IDF was in the right. Those “peace activists” were lucky more weren’t killed.

Weight of Glory on May 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM

When living in that mindset on a daily basis (both sides, because many Israelis believe the same about an Arab) situations like this is like playing with matches in the bomb factory. The slightest spark and boom, there it all goes.

Ahhh, so passivity is the key. Good strategery.

Aquateen Hungerforce on May 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM

I demand a roll on the percentiles to see if Allah intercedes with his divine anger.

Good Solid B-Plus on May 31, 2010 at 1:10 PM

The roll was good, but it turns out Allah believes in neither divinity nor intercession.

29Victor on May 31, 2010 at 1:13 PM

These were enemy combatants supplying a hot war zone. Too bad it isn’t the days when they could just sink the ships and then pick up survivors. Oh well, ten’s a good start, and they do have the ships.

ray on May 31, 2010 at 1:15 PM

RULE #1: WHEN YOU PICK UP A WEAPON AND START USING IT, YOU NO LONGER BECOME A CIVILIAN.

My God ButterflyDragon, are you that stupid? There were no civilians killed on that ship.

portlandon on May 31, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Yeah, IDF has never killed civilians. They’ve all been terrorists!!

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Israel is the aggressor here. They stormed a ship in international waters.

lodge on May 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Getting some painting done today, so I don’t have time to read the whole thread. Is is safe to assume that all of the regular Ron Paul trolls have come out out condemn Israel and support the leftist blockade runners?

stefanite on May 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM

Indeed, lots of crocodile tears for the pwoor wittle innocent “peace activists” too.

mudskipper on May 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Yeah, IDF has never killed civilians. They’ve all been terrorists!!

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 1:15 PM

You assertion/accusation does not follow from…

RULE #1: WHEN YOU PICK UP A WEAPON AND START USING IT, YOU NO LONGER BECOME A CIVILIAN.

My God ButterflyDragon, are you that stupid? There were no civilians killed on that ship.

portlandon on May 31, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Do you see? DO YOU SEE??!?

Aquateen Hungerforce on May 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Israel is the aggressor here. They stormed a ship in international waters.

lodge on May 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

You’re part of the rEvolution, aren’t you?

stefanite on May 31, 2010 at 1:17 PM

If it was just basic aid on those ships, why the need to run a blockade?

saus on May 31, 2010 at 12:54 PM

HOLY CRAP! It’s clear as day in that video. They were only armed with paintball guns at first. WTF?!?!?!?

Yakko77 on May 31, 2010 at 1:17 PM

I also doubt the Israelis will find substantial miltary ordnance on board. The “peace” activists would not want that to be found and they were out to create a PR event which would assume the cargo would be examined.

a capella on May 31, 2010 at 1:01 PM

My thoughts, also. What interests me is what is on the two delayed ships?

Perhaps they expected those to get through without being boarded – after the botched boarding.

OldEnglish on May 31, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Israel is the aggressor here. They stormed a ship in international waters.

lodge on May 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

loludumb, kthxbai.

Aquateen Hungerforce on May 31, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Israel is the aggressor here. They stormed a ship in international waters.

lodge on May 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Seen the new videos, lodge? Still going to stick by your ridiculous “innocent peace activists armed with driftwood and sticks” theory?

Good Solid B-Plus on May 31, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Israel is the aggressor here. They stormed a ship in international waters.

lodge on May 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

You’re a Ron Paul supporter, aren’t you?

stefanite on May 31, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Israel is the aggressor here. They stormed a ship in international waters.

lodge on May 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

“International waters” – is that like “international law”?

i.e. Utterly meaningless.

mudskipper on May 31, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Israel is the aggressor here. They stormed a ship in international waters.

[lodge on May 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM]

More time dependent word games. The people on the ships were the aggressors. The made public statements beforehand they were going to run the blockade. They became the aggressors the minute they left port.

Dusty on May 31, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Looking at the videos, It seems that every Hamas “peace-activist” is a young, military-aged, male.

It’s a trap!

dIb on May 31, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Have the Dean and Spathi weighed in yet? We need them on record on this.

stefanite on May 31, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Ahhh, so passivity is the key. Good strategery.

Aquateen Hungerforce on May 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM

Not all. 700 people on a confined boat, in the dark, and they send in 30 commandos with paintball guns and pistols? That’s asking for trouble in my opinion.

Plus, I’ve yet to read or hear about what type of communications the IDF had with the ships before boarding. That also would play a key role in determining an appropriate response.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 1:21 PM

So the IDF may have killed some innocent civilians here? That is the issue??? Who the hell do terrorists target almost exclusively??? Butterfly clown, are you for real?

ndanielson on May 31, 2010 at 1:22 PM

On the day before the Gaza flotilla confronted the Israeli navy, Al-Jazeera TV documented the pre-battle atmosphere created by men on board the flotilla, who chanted a well-known Islamic battle cry invoking the killing and defeat of Jews in battle:

“[Remember] Khaibar, Khaibar, oh Jews! The army of Muhammad will return!”

Khaibar is the name of the last Jewish village defeated by Muhammad’s army in 628. Many Jews were killed in that battle, which marked the end of Jewish presence in Arabia. There are Muslims who see that as a precursor to future wars against Jews. At gatherings and rallies of extremists, this chant is often heard as a threat to Jews to expect to be defeated and killed again by Muslims.

Al-Jazeera also interviewed a woman who said that the flotilla participants’ goal was “one of two happy endings: either Martyrdom or reaching Gaza.”

The following is the transcript from Al-Jazeera TV:
Reporter: “Despite the Israeli threats and several unexpected delays, the arrival of the ships at the meeting point before sailing to the Gaza Strip inflamed the emotions and the enthusiasm of the participants.”
Visuals from Gaza flotilla ship of young Muslims shouting Islamic battle chant invoking the killing and defeat of Jews in battle:
“[Remember] Khaibar, Khaibar, oh Jews! The army of Muhammad will return!”
[Khaibar is the name of last Jewish village defeated by Muhammad's army and it marked the end of Jewish presence in Arabia in 628.]
Reporter: “While singing songs reminiscent of the Palestinian Intifada (Palestinian terror war against Israel, 2000 – 2005), participants expressed their longing to reach Gaza.”
A participant: “Right now we face one of two happy endings: either Martyrdom or reaching Gaza.” [Based on Islamic call before battle: "Either victory or Martyrdom".]
[Al-Jazeera TV, May 29, 2010]

Hamas’s Al-Aqsa TV chose to glorify flotilla participants who shouted the Islamic battle cry by broadcasting an interview with a university lecturer who referred to them as “those with faith and will.”

Dr. Abd Al-Fatah Shayyeq Naaman, lecturer in Shari’ah law at a university in Sanaa:
“Yesterday I followed the news agencies and they conveyed Zionist threats to stop the convoy and prevent it from entering Gaza; on the other side, those with faith and will once again call out upon hearing the reports of the threats: ‘[Remember] Khaibar, Khaibar, oh Jews! The army of Muhammad will return!’”
Hamas TV Host: “Strong motivation.”
Shayyeq Naaman: “One woman standing on the ship said that now we are awaiting one of two happy endings: either Martyrdom or the beaches of Gaza.”
[Al-Aqsa TV (Hamas), May 30, 2010]

Al-Jazeera also reports that before the confrontation, flotilla participants announced that they would use “resistance” against Israel. Mukawama (resistance) is the Arabic term used by Palestinians to refer to all violence against Israel, including suicide terror.

“The flotilla includes hundreds of Arab and foreign solidarity activists from more than 40 countries … They have announced their determination to use resistance to any attempt at piracy by the Israeli occupation.”
[Al-Jazeera website, May 29, 2010]

Johnny 100 Pesos on May 31, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Come on Paulbots, I’m calling you out! Time to show your true colors.

stefanite on May 31, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Lodge – from Ed’s post:

And are we to believe that the “peace activists” would have surrendered peacefully had this action taken them within the 12-mile limit? I see no reason to believe that; indeed, it looks as though they were prepared for armed confrontation.

Try reading sometime.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Any bets which side “zero” will take on this? (Sorry if someone has said that – the comments grew so fast I didn’t have time to read all of them). I just keep hoping the jews will finally get a clue and realize that the libs are not the ones who support Israel. Every vote for the current regime is a nail in Israel’s coffin!

Bambi on May 31, 2010 at 1:24 PM

From a transcript from Al-Jazeera:

Reporter: “Despite the Israeli threats and several unexpected delays, the arrival of the ships at the meeting point before sailing to the Gaza Strip inflamed the emotions and the enthusiasm of the participants.”
Visuals from Gaza flotilla ship of young Muslims shouting Islamic battle chant invoking the killing and defeat of Jews in battle:
“Khaibar, Khaibar, oh Jews! The army of Muhammad will return!”

Tav on May 31, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Yeah, IDF has never killed civilians. They’ve all been terrorists!!
ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Flailing wildly now…

AsianGirlInTights on May 31, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Previous article from here:

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=2323

This is the name:

Gaza flotilla participants created war atmosphere before confronting Israel
Participants chanted Islamic battle cry invoking killing of Jews and called for Martyrdom

Johnny 100 Pesos on May 31, 2010 at 1:25 PM

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 1:21 PM

You own an “End the Fed” t-shirt, don’t you.

stefanite on May 31, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Plus, I’ve yet to read or hear about what type of communications the IDF had with the ships before boarding. That also would play a key role in determining an appropriate response.

ButterflyDragon on May 31, 2010 at 1:21 PM

You’re dense. I posted it earlier.

Sheesh.

CWforFreedom on May 31, 2010 at 1:25 PM

The three Israeli Air Force Blackhawk Helicopters hovering nearby made their approach above the Mavi Marmara’s upper deck. Sitting on board, the naval commandos could just make out the few dozen activists gathered below. Carrying non-lethal weapons as well as pistols, the last thing the soldiers thought they would walk into was a well-planed lynch.

“As the 15 of us slid down the ropes, 30 of them were waiting for us on the deck,” one of the commandos later told reporters. “They charged us and threw a few of the soldiers off the deck to the floor below. We did not expect to find ourselves in such a situation.”

The assessment within the Navy was that the activists would resist the Israeli takeover of their ship but along the lines of the demonstrations the IDF faces weekly in the West Bank where Palestinians protest against the security barrier. Rocks and punches would be thrown as well as an occasional knife but not the extent of violence they met.

As the rope fell from the helicopter onto the Mavi Marmara’s deck, some of the Turkish activists grabbed it, tied it to an antenna likely hoping that it would bring down the helicopter. The Navy commandos decided to still go ahead with the operation and began sliding down onto the ship.

Armed with rifles that could shoot paintballs – which can hurt but not kill – the soldiers landed on the ship and immediately came under attack by dozens of activists armed with knives, bats and metal pipes. Activists grabbed soldiers and tried to hold them hostage, stripping them of their helmets and equipment.

One of the soldiers tried to protect a commando who was being lynched by a group of activists. They were instructed by the flotilla commander to refrain from using their sidearm unless their lives were at risk.

Soldiers feared for their lives, asked permission to open fire

The force threw several stun grenades but the violent attacks continued. Two soldiers were injured and some of the activists succeeded in stealing one of the soldier’s guns. Shots were fired and one of the soldiers fell to the ground unconscious. Fearing for their lives, the soldiers asked and received permission to open fire, first taking aim at the activists’ feet.

In one corner of the ship, the commandos saw a gun flash. They returned fire and started chasing the shooter but could not find him.

As the clashes intensified, additional commandos boarded the ship as well as members of the Border Police’s Yasam unit who are experts in riot control and crowd dispersion. After less than an hour, the ship was in Israeli hands. The price though was steep – eight soldiers were injured, several of them seriously and at least nine activists were killed.

By the evening, the naval commandos were back at their base in northern Israel and had begun their debriefing.

JPost.

But of course. “Peace activists” always try to take down helicopters. To crash right on top of themselves, too. They set this up for a confrontation leading to martyrdom, and 72 raisins.

Wethal on May 31, 2010 at 1:25 PM

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