BP abandons “top kill”

posted at 10:20 am on May 30, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

“It’s a little bit of a roller coaster ride for everyone …” No kidding. After BP and Admiral Thad Allen did a few high-fives over the apparent initial success of “top kill” in stopping the flow of oil from the Deepwater Horizon blowout in the Gulf of Mexico, it became clear that the attempt had failed. BP finally threw in the towel on Plan B, and are moving ahead with Plan C, which hopes to cap the blowout and capture “the great majority” of the oil spewing from the destroyed well:

BP will “move on to the next option” after several attempts to stuff solid material and pump mud into a breached Gulf of Mexico oil well failed to stop the flow, according to a BP spokesman. …

Top BP executives said Saturday that engineers and scientists had decided to try a new technique of stopping the flow after three attempts to pump mud and 16 tries to stuff solid material into the well failed.

That option: placing a custom-built cap to fit over the “lower marine riser package,” BP chief operation officer Doug Suttles said. BP crews were already at work Saturday to ready the materials for that method, he said.
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“We have not been able to stop the flow,” a somber Suttles told reporters. “Repeated pumping, we don’t believe, will achieve success, so we will move on to the next option.”

Suttles and other officials said that the “top kill” attempt to stop the flow did so — but only as long as they were pumping. When the pumping stopped, the oil resumed its escape.

Thursday’s announcement came just hours before Barack Obama assured Americans that the federal government was completely in charge of the Gulf disaster response, and that BP didn’t do anything without a by-your-leave from Admiral Allen. It then became obvious that BP had interrupted the “top kill” procedure for almost a day without anyone from the government team noticing it. By Friday, most people had already figured out from the live camera that Allen and BP had declared victory much too early, and that the sudden silence afterward meant that Plan B had already failed. This just confirms what was plain to see on Friday.

Plan C involves sealing the breach with a cap that will allow BP to channel the oil flow in a manner that will keep it secure and retrievable. They took pains to emphasize that it would only capture “a great majority” of the crude oil at best, which means that the spill will continue to unfold until BP can drill relief wells to divert the flow and dramatically decrease pressure at the blowout. Unfortunately, that won’t happen until August at the earliest.

Plan A, readers will remember, also involved installing a cap on the blowout, a maneuver that failed in the first weeks of the crisis. Let’s hope this idea works better — and let’s hope that this time, the administration keeps its high-fives in its pockets.


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BuckeyeSam on May 30, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Too bad the whole Gulf Coast has to get trashed to finally wake some of these knuckleheads up to such a nuanced fact as that. . .

Wind Rider on May 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Obama F-

CWforFreedom on May 30, 2010 at 12:42 PM

EPIC FAIL. Here’s another vote for Michael Moore and if for some reason he’s not big enough, throw Olbermann down too. Do you think Dear Leader still wants to own this disaster?

Philly on May 30, 2010 at 12:49 PM

Heck of a job Barry!

Ogabe on May 30, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Maybe i missed the “high-fives” but from what i saw everyone said all along that they would not know if the Top-Kill worked for several days. After several days they announced that it was in fact not working. Any links to these so called high-fives?

Tim-in-NJ on May 30, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Deep Horizon Unified Command

Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill Response

http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/site/2931/

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 1:05 PM

I’m sorry, but I just have to ask this …

Does anyone at BP know what they’re doing?

SagebrushPuppet on May 30, 2010 at 11:22 AM

BP is doing the best they can under the circumstances. They are attempting highly complex procedures 5000 feet underwater with a well spewing oil and gas. Not an ideal environment don’t you agree? Also they are being pressured by Obumbles to git ‘er done so there is some PR stunting involved in their work to satisfy Ol’ Lop Ears.

BP is working with 500 industry and government experts round the clock to solve this disaster. I’m pretty sure they are doing the best they can, and would like this $10 or $15 billion disaster to end. BP made some brutal rookie errors before the blowout and should pay the price for that. But what they are doing to fix the situation is comparable to work on the Space Station so they deserve some credit for what they are trying here.

Ogabe on May 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM

How many advisors does it take to plug this thing?

Can we start with Rahm? He seems to have a pretty inflated ego… perfect for Operation Big Shot.

ajacksonian on May 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM

My only concern is how this will be used by the radical left to further demonize off-shore drilling, and drilling in general. It’s going to set us back years on expanding domestic production. Ugh.

KSgop on May 30, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Obama should summon the Kraken to stick something in the hole.

ceruleanblue on May 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM

She’s out belt shopping for the Paul McCartney concert.

Thank you folks, I’ll be here all weekend.

Chuck Schick on May 30, 2010 at 1:36 PM

I think it’s time for a vacation…

Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on May 30, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Deep Horizon Unified Command

Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill Response

http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/site/2931/

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 1:05 PM

that website is almost useless. It was just fine until about a week ago but actually BP’s site give way more info on what is going on.
About a week ago I quit trusting anything that the USCG says or does. I really don’t think they have a single clue, especially outside of procedures well established decades ago. They don’t even know the difference between a drilling rig and a production platform.

Kermit on May 30, 2010 at 1:49 PM

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 1:05 PM
=====================================
that website is almost useless. It was just fine until about a week ago but actually BP’s site give way more info on what is going on.
About a week ago I quit trusting anything that the USCG says or does. I really don’t think they have a single clue, especially outside of procedures well established decades ago. They don’t even know the difference between a drilling rig and a production platform.

Kermit on May 30, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Kermit: Ya,I hear ya,BP’s site was on the first page,me
linky it again!:)
=========================================

http://www.bp.com/bodycopyarticle.do?categoryId=1&contentId=7052055

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Ok, why not manufacture a pipe that has an inflatable exterior like a thick bicycle tube. Insert the smaller pipe into the broken one and inflate the exterior tube. The tube, once inflated, seals the inside of the broken pipe while the oil can be extracted through the smaller inserted pipe.
I thought of this Day 1. Coondawg to the rescue!!!!

the Coondawg on May 30, 2010 at 2:07 PM

It was just fine until about a week ago …

Kermit on May 30, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Lol.

Doesn’t anyone get the fact that success was announced one day before Zero’s press conference? Also all the Sestak B.S.

It’s pure damage control folks.

gh on May 30, 2010 at 2:07 PM

BP website

Louisiana Gulf Response
=========================================

http://www.louisianagulfresponse.com/go/site/3047/

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 2:09 PM

Its time for the US Navy to get on the job!!

Incompetent they are not!

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 2:13 PM

Meanwhile, in the Chicago neighborhood

President Obama’s home is in the same Chicago neighborhood as Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. On Saturday night, the overlapping of Obama’s and Farrakhan’s worlds made for a strange, and sometimes testy, encounter between the Secret Service, the press corps covering the president, and the paramilitary security force, the Fruit of Islam, surrounding Farrakhan.

Schadenfreude on May 30, 2010 at 2:19 PM

Put Malia in charge.

neobadger on May 30, 2010 at 2:28 PM

Meanwhile

Schadenfreude on May 30, 2010 at 2:19 PM

Schadenfreude: Wow,that was tense!:)

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 2:41 PM

Deepwater Horizon oil spill

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_drilling_rig_explosion

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 2:49 PM

I’ll just say again how happy I am that the environmentalists were right about it not being worth it to tap our oil resources in the gulf as there was so little to be found there. If they had been wrong we’d still be trying to plug this hole.

Oh wait.

Benaiah on May 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM

so where are the replacement rigs- I dare say that this thing won’t stop until there are about 100 deepwater horizon pumping and relieving the pressure from this gold mine of oil. Why isn’t that an option that anyone is considering?

mdetlh on May 30, 2010 at 3:08 PM

At what point does BP get forced aside? After Plan C fails? Plan D fails?

When?

Christien on May 30, 2010 at 3:09 PM

so where are the replacement rigs- I dare say that this thing won’t stop until there are about 100 deepwater horizon pumping and relieving the pressure from this gold mine of oil. Why isn’t that an option that anyone is considering?

mdetlh on May 30, 2010 at 3:08 PM

They are going to drill what is known as a “relief well” but it won’t be operational until August. That’s Bush’s fault, y’know.

Del Dolemonte on May 30, 2010 at 3:16 PM

Christien, you want BP forced aside so that whathisname? can take over? what in the world for?

mdetlh on May 30, 2010 at 3:16 PM

At what point does BP get forced aside? After Plan C fails? Plan D fails?
When?
Christien on May 30, 2010 at 3:09 PM

We should be up to the mutated seabass by then.

Chuck Schick on May 30, 2010 at 3:17 PM

Good News, America!

The White House just it may be until like August before they can plug the hole!

Maybe Obama would like to rethink that stay in Chicago at this point.

pilamaye on May 30, 2010 at 3:19 PM

Good News, America!

The White House just it may be until like August before they can plug the hole!

Maybe Obama would like to rethink that stay in Chicago at this point.

pilamaye on May 30, 2010 at 3:19 PM

August??

IF this keeps up until August… it’s going to stick to Obama. And by association, it will also stick to the dems in the Nov 2010 Midterms. IF it sticks until November not only are the dems screwed but also Obama himself. He’s practically lost any chance of getting any democrat in the gulf states.

BP is doing the best they can under the circumstances. They are attempting highly complex procedures 5000 feet underwater with a well spewing oil and gas. Not an ideal environment don’t you agree? Also they are being pressured by Obumbles to git ‘er done so there is some PR stunting involved in their work to satisfy Ol’ Lop Ears.

BP is working with 500 industry and government experts round the clock to solve this disaster. I’m pretty sure they are doing the best they can, and would like this $10 or $15 billion disaster to end. BP made some brutal rookie errors before the blowout and should pay the price for that. But what they are doing to fix the situation is comparable to work on the Space Station so they deserve some credit for what they are trying here.

Ogabe on May 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM

The people trying to fix this are in my prayers.

That being said, the people who ignored this should be sacked.

Also: the people who exempted BP from a safety inspection in April 2009 2009 should also be scrapped. BP knew the chances of this happening were significant since April 2009.

This wouldn’t have happened were it not for corporate incompetence enabled by a lack of proper regulation. Both the corporate lackeys and their government enablers should answer for this.

Chaz706 on May 30, 2010 at 3:40 PM

BP is doing the best they can under the circumstances. They are attempting highly complex procedures 5000 feet underwater with a well spewing oil and gas. Not an ideal environment don’t you agree? Also they are being pressured by Obumbles to git ‘er done so there is some PR stunting involved in their work to satisfy Ol’ Lop Ears.

Yes, well, BP would want The Joker to come out of this looking good. They paid enough for him.

SagebrushPuppet on May 30, 2010 at 3:41 PM

I got the plan
===============================

1/ Clear,or blow the pipeline area

2/ Once submersibiles have ascertained that its within
flat or level conditions.

3/ Minumum crew in a electric/deisel US Navy Submarine

4/ It is to park over,and blow its ballast tanks to seal
the leak,with US Navy Submersibles confirming that the
leak is stopped,

5/ Repeat if necessary to get it right,

6/ US Navy rescue Submarine to extract the crew and
seal up the submarine,

7 Now begin relief valve drilling,once thats squared away,

8 then,option to remove the sub off the damaged pipe!

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 4:31 PM

Will they get “Mission Accomplished” treatment?

ramrants on May 30, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Oh yes

Since early 2006, Olbermann has closed his Countdown show by counting up the days since President Bush “declared ‘Mission Accomplished’ in Iraq.” That didn’t change when Pres. Obama took office either – then he just made it “former President” and kept the count-up going. So on Thursday May 20 he reached Day 2,576…and that was it.

Starting on Monday, Olbermann has been using this sign-off:

And that is Countdown for this, the 34th day since the Deep Water Horizon oil spill disaster began. I’m Keith Olbermann. Good night and good luck.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/keith-olbermann-changes-nightly-sign-off-from-shot-at-bush-to-shot-at-obama/

agmartin on May 30, 2010 at 5:01 PM

What!? The damn hole isn’t plugged!? Fire somebody Barry!

/sarc

Apparently only Charles Krauthammer is bringing up the fact that this unprecedented accident is causing so much trouble because of the relatively new process of drilling for oil at 5,000 down at the bottom of the sea. There’s plenty of oil just sitting on dry land waiting to be tapped, but of course we can’t touch any of that without the environmentalists launching a wave of lawsuits and legal challenges.

A blowout on dry land? Take about a week to clear the debris and get a new well in there. 5000 feet below water? Gee, that’s……….TRICKY.

manofaiki on May 30, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Intriguing BP-WH-Emanuel connections: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Top-PR-firm-for-BP-tied-to-White-House-Chief-of-Staff-Rahm-Emanuel-95223369.html

What was Pelosi claiming about the Bush WH again?

onlineanalyst on May 30, 2010 at 5:21 PM

Meh. Red state. When’s tee time, Joe?
 
- B. Obama, LLC.

rogerb on May 30, 2010 at 5:35 PM

What was Pelosi claiming about the Bush WH again?

onlineanalyst on May 30, 2010 at 5:21 PM

onlineanalyst:There is no end to the corruption rabbit
hole me thinks!:)

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 5:39 PM

Obama owns this, lock, stock and barrels.

Satellite photo proves it:

POilsTUS

justltl on May 30, 2010 at 5:59 PM

Did you plug the hole yet daddy?

Inanemergencydial on May 30, 2010 at 10:58 AM

It’s come to this-
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/opinion/30friedman.html

redridinghood on May 30, 2010 at 6:02 PM

And the Moron in Chief tried to claim credit when he thought the top kill worked.

How’s that Hope and OilChange workin’ out for you now, champ?

justltl on May 30, 2010 at 6:02 PM

This is absolutely outrageous. How convenient that this was supposedly working last week, just in time for the Sea Healer’s press conference and long holiday weekend, and now all of a sudden it was never working at all. Tell me again how BP and this administration aren’t in bed together and manipulating this entire story.

Unbelievable.

NoLeftTurn on May 30, 2010 at 6:05 PM

This is absolutely outrageous. How convenient that this was supposedly working last week, just in time for the Sea Healer’s press conference and long holiday weekend, and now all of a sudden it was never working at all. Tell me again how BP and this administration aren’t in bed together and manipulating this entire story.

Unbelievable.

NoLeftTurn on May 30, 2010 at 6:05 PM

You noticed that too, huh?

SagebrushPuppet on May 30, 2010 at 6:24 PM

mdetlh on May 30, 2010 at 3:08 PM

The rigs that do that kind of drilling are highly specialized. You just can’t move any rig there to do the job.

BallisticBob on May 30, 2010 at 6:45 PM

Contained in BP’s Emergency Response Plan which was approved for the permit, there are TWO relief wells that are to be drilled.

Any blowout was to be potentially spill at the top of the riser at the drilling rig.

To my knowledge there are not 100 drilling rigs in the GoM with such ultra-deepwater capacity. You cannot just move one from the Far East, Brazil or Nigeria in a month. There are only a few ships able to carry them and these are highly specialized transits.

The drillship Discoverer Enterprise did not bring its two BOP’s (it can drill two wells at the same time) because it left another job where it was already drilling and the BOP’s remained where they were.

Kermit on May 30, 2010 at 6:52 PM

Before typing out Prison Planet type theories of conspiracy, one first needs to realize that ultra-deepwater exploration and production in beyond NASA technology in several ways.

You cannot go get the equipment and material required at WalMart.

Kermit on May 30, 2010 at 7:01 PM

3/ Minumum crew in a electric/deisel US Navy Submarine

4/ It is to park over,and blow its ballast tanks to seal
the leak,with US Navy Submersibles confirming that the
leak is stopped,

5/ Repeat if necessary to get it right,

6/ US Navy rescue Submarine to extract the crew and
seal up the submarine,

I believe the well is at 5K feet, well below crush depth of any US Navy sub I know of and I’m not sure the US has any electric/deisel subs in the fleet and even if they did, 5K feet would darn sure be below it’s crush depth (too many hull valves). Nice thought though.

whbates on May 30, 2010 at 7:23 PM

Barry will never go near the place again… It proves he’s not the messiah.

RalphyBoy on May 30, 2010 at 7:31 PM

I honestly think this is the end for Obama’s political future. The left will cannibalize him as soon as they realize he can’t win in 2012.

Good Solid B-Plus on May 30, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Just for fun:

Oily Bird Catches the Worm

justltl on May 30, 2010 at 7:48 PM

This is really multiple, simultaneous problems. BP, the government, and the media needs to address all aspects of this disaster.

* Oil Leak
* Dispersants
* Capturing Oil in Gulf
* Capturing Oil near Shore
* Cleanup

Today, everyone is focused on the failure of top kill.

* What about Shell Oil’s former CEO’s plan to pump the oil/water into supertankers.
* Why aren’t enough booms available and installed?
* How many dredges are available to build the sand bars?
* What’s the decision on Costner’s separator?
* Why is government dragging their feet on approving more sand bar construction>
* Why aren’t effected businesses receiving just compensation?
* What’s causing people to become sick?
* Why isn’t the Smart Sponge being tried?

There needs to be 25 pilot projects being run all over the gulf. Find out what works and go with it. Put a general in charge of the entire project and have briefings by someone that actually knows and understands what is going on.
Media, start doing your job. You need to be all over BP and the federal government demanding answers. The oil didn’t stop for the holiday weekend and the dxxxxx government shouldn’t have either.

huckleberryfriend on May 30, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Huckleberry,
A few things wrong with your talking points. The setting for the tanker solution was far different in the Saudi situation than it is here. that is very unlikely to work.

Costner’s thing is nothing more than a very lightweight centrifuge and unless his guys discovered some new ways to make one it will work even less than methods being used right now. Centrifuges have been used for eons.

There are MANY dredges to start construction. Ask O’Zero why the holdup.

Yea I’ve seen every huckster known to man with “new” techniques. There was supposed to be part of the spill set aside to try new technology that appears promising.

There is a lot of absorbent boom laying around but is no good without hard boom behind it.

Generals (and the USCG) don’t do squat other than observe, partially direct and report. There are around 100 spill response contractors, many of world scale ability, who have responded and are working.

The entire problem is because it is ultra-deepwater.

I’m not sure about the sickness other than potential for ambulance chaser brother-in-laws to make a few coins. There have not been that many reported cases for it to be a real problem anyway.

Disregard just about everything you hear in the media about this spill (including Hot Air) I’ve not found one article that was not less than 90% fantasy thus far.

Kermit on May 30, 2010 at 8:13 PM

6/ US Navy rescue Submarine to extract the crew and
seal up the submarine,
===================================
I believe the well is at 5K feet, well below crush depth of any US Navy sub I know of and I’m not sure the US has any electric/deisel subs in the fleet and even if they did, 5K feet would darn sure be below it’s crush depth (too many hull valves). Nice thought though.

whbates on May 30, 2010 at 7:23 PM

whbates:Yup,I realized that after awhile,recalling the movie
Das Boot at around 260 metres or so,but your right!
-:)

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 8:28 PM

Mission Accomplished?

This is simply unbelievable that everyone was so completely unprepared to handle this. It was foreseeable.

Environmentalists took their eye off the ball. They should have been working to figure out fixes for things like this instead of pushing fake science to make money.

The stupid holier-than-thou group of hypocrites. They just can’t wait to condemn and judge. They do nothing of real value. The do nothing to help the earth.

Just another stupid special interest group out to make a buck by playing on people’s emotions.

petunia on May 30, 2010 at 8:38 PM

I cannot link the CNN opinion piece by Donna Brasile, but she claims in her own hyperpartisan way that Big Government is necessary to tackle the oil spill. (These loons never quit with the spin. They don’t even understand the difference between the federal government’s role and that of local government.)

onlineanalyst on May 30, 2010 at 8:49 PM

Someone needs to notify our Leader that he didn’t plug the hole. Being on vacation, he may not have access to this news.

pearson on May 30, 2010 at 8:58 PM

I’m not sure about the sickness other than potential for ambulance chaser brother-in-laws to make a few coins. There have not been that many reported cases for it to be a real problem anyway.

Disregard just about everything you hear in the media about this spill (including Hot Air) I’ve not found one article that was not less than 90% fantasy thus far.

Kermit on May 30, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Yeah this sickness thing makes me wonder too. It’s waaay too convenient with so many low-life ambulance chasers around scouting out new clients.

There’s countless rig crews working with all kinds of invert and oil-based mud for months on end without anything approaching these levels of ‘sickness’. And the rig crews live and breathe this crap up-close for 12 hours every single day, even getting soaked down in it now and then.

I have seen some guys getting skin reactions after repeated contact with invert mud, but come on – breathing a bit of oily fumes on a wide-open sea is mickey-mouse stuff! When you’re working at -40, with enclosed mud-tanks of this stuff, then you’re talking real awful fumes.

The guys out on the Gulf calling in sick after a couple days of this are highly suspect. I’ll bet most of them have figured out where the real money is at. And the ambulance-chasers are sure to clue them in if they haven’t figured it out yet.

Ogabe on May 30, 2010 at 9:01 PM

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 4:31 PM

With a well blowing 10,000 BOPD of oil and probably 10-20 MMCFPD gas with a minimum pressure of well over 8000 psi?
And a damaged 50-foot BOP flanged into several strings of heavy-duty casing that can be breached with any additional tension to the stack?

My advice: don’t quit your day job.

TexasJew on May 30, 2010 at 9:04 PM

Environmentalists took their eye off the ball.

petunia on May 30, 2010 at 8:38 PM

petunia:I bet,like the Gay Activists who chained themselves
to the fence,and like these Environmental Wackos,it
would of put Obama in a bad light!!!:)

Btw,I never heard a word,anywhere,on any news sites.

=======================================================

BREAKING: 7 Activists Arrested in Anti-Drilling Protest, but BP Goes Free?!
———————–

The group said it was sending a message to Interior Secretary Ken Salazar to ban new drilling in the Arctic or any U.S. waters. The ship was docked at Port Fourchon, Louisiana, near the site of the massive BP oil spill that for more than a month has been gushing thousands of barrels of oil daily into the Gulf of Mexico.

http://current.com/news/92453056_breaking-7-activists-arrested-in-anti-drilling-protest-but-bp-goes-free.htm

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 9:05 PM

canopfor,
Likely paid activists at that. I guarantee you it isn’t the locals.

Kermit on May 30, 2010 at 9:10 PM

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 4:31 PM
=======================================

With a well blowing 10,000 BOPD of oil and probably 10-20 MMCFPD gas with a minimum pressure of well over 8000 psi?
And a damaged 50-foot BOP flanged into several strings of heavy-duty casing that can be breached with any additional tension to the stack?

My advice: don’t quit your day job.

TexasJew on May 30, 2010 at 9:04 PM

TexasJew:Well,it was a suggestion,Mr.Smarty pants,and that
is a hell of a lot of pressure coming out,8000
lbs/per sq.inch!!

I bet your going to tell me that the Twin Tower
implosion rate wasn’t 300 MPH velocity speed by
the time it hit the ground too!!!———-:)

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 9:13 PM

canopfor,
============================
Likely paid activists at that. I guarantee you it isn’t the locals.

Kermit on May 30, 2010 at 9:10 PM

Kermit: Oh I’m with you on the locals part,there seems to
be a Anti-(war,gay,environmental)news blackout for
Obama’s entire term.Unicorns and everything is rosy
narrative perception!!:)

canopfor on May 30, 2010 at 9:17 PM

I get why the White House is being blamed (in part) for the clean-up, but people here are actually blaming Obama for the “top kill” not working?! That’s just reflexive ODS.

Seriously, the top engineers in the oil industry couldn’t figure this out. Do you really think that anyone in any government administration could do a better job? No, of course you don’t.

YYZ on May 30, 2010 at 9:27 PM

This whole CNN bit is talking heads. The truth is no one knows how to stop this monstrosity. It could be billowing for a long long time . . . .

Sherman1864 on May 30, 2010 at 9:36 PM

I get why the White House is being blamed (in part) for the clean-up, but people here are actually blaming Obama for the “top kill” not working?! That’s just reflexive ODS.

Seriously, the top engineers in the oil industry couldn’t figure this out. Do you really think that anyone in any government administration could do a better job? No, of course you don’t.

YYZ on May 30, 2010 at 9:27 PM

Obumbles owns ObamaSpill just like Bush owned Katrina. Get used to it.

Ogabe on May 30, 2010 at 9:38 PM

Didn’t the Destroyer just say a couple of days ago that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT was in charge of this, and had been calling the shots and telling everyone what they were going to do from the get-go?

Blame…………your name is………..OBAMA!!

PappyD61 on May 30, 2010 at 11:59 PM

Why not use OR techniques? Mr. PPF works the heart-lung machine, but in order to start/end processes he has to clamp tubes with scissors. Same is done on surgery.

I say clamp it then weld it.

ProudPalinFan on May 30, 2010 at 11:59 PM

Obumbles owns ObamaSpill just like Bush owned Katrina. Get used to it.

Bush owned the response to Katrina, as Obama will own the response to this. But nobody (well, I’m sure Spike Lee) blamed Bush for the hurricane or the condition of the levees.

YYZ on May 31, 2010 at 1:51 AM

Just saw Day 41 on Drudge.
Has anyone else been reminded of the Iranian hostage crisis with this?

How many days? It’ll be like that.

B Man on May 31, 2010 at 1:57 AM

Damn the double posts, but what is all this “it’s Bush’s fault”? Obama has already claimed responsibility for the gov’t effort. and he says the gov’t is doing every it can.

So…what gives with passing the buck? Obama has already given us go ahead to pin this on him.

Well we are dealing with libs so I should know better.

B Man on May 31, 2010 at 2:14 AM

Nuke the thing.

Tim Burton on May 31, 2010 at 3:20 AM

Hey Kermit, someone here linked to an interview at Fast Company the other day with two guys who had experience with that big Saudi oil spill and they said they brought tankers in and just vacuumed up about 80% of the oil. You think that could work here? If so, why has it not been suggested as something they could try (other than the logistics of getting enough empty tankers into the area)?

NoLeftTurn on May 31, 2010 at 4:52 AM

First, everything about the “SuperTanker” cleanup is heresay that went around the OTC in Houston a few weeks back. There were no reports of the spill, and no reports of the cleanup anywhere.

Second, we have to take into consideration the maneuverability of such large vessels (even if they are not VLCC or ULCC size) because of the relief well drilling and also nearby (though miles away) production platforms.

Remember that this is not a “conventional” spill but instead flowing up from 5,000 feet with turbulence created by expanding gases and mixing with water all the way up.

Also, if it could work, there is the maritime unions most of the U.S. Flagged tanker fleet is made up of product tankers which are smaller than “lightering” tankers of able to enter U.S. Ports.

Kermit on May 31, 2010 at 9:19 AM

IF this keeps up until August… it’s going to stick to Obama.

If this keeps up until August, the gulf coast if f&%#ed. Nice priorities.

Again, anyone who chanted “drill baby drill” and supported Bush’s energy policy has ZERO right to criticize Obama over this. Seriously, just STFU.

Tom_Shipley on May 31, 2010 at 9:59 AM

and let’s hope that this time, the administration keeps its high-fives in its pockets.

?? I’m hoping they keep the high-one they’ve been giving the country for 18 months, in their pocket!

chickasaw42 on May 31, 2010 at 10:12 AM

Did you plug the hole yet daddy?

Inanemergencydial on May 30, 2010 at 10:58 AM

My kids and I were all giggling hysterically at this – the Elmo part was hilarious too.

citrus on May 31, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Time to Nuke it.

Count to 10 on May 31, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Again, anyone who chanted “drill baby drill” and supported Bush’s energy policy has ZERO right to criticize Obama over this. Seriously, just STFU.

Tom_Shipley on May 31, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Only in your simple mind.

Count to 10 on May 31, 2010 at 11:11 AM

As Charles Krauthammer has said, we are drilling in 5,000 feet of water because of environmentalists. We could be drilling shallower water or on land. I want to know what happened and why and for strict adherence to ways to prevent such blowouts. From what I have heard in the news the drilling crew and managers knew the blowout preventor had been damaged. If so, all immediate action should have been taken to correct the situation. We need energy. Build nukes, drill and conserve!

SC.Charlie on May 31, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Nuke the thing.

Tim Burton on May 31, 2010 at 3:20 AM

Time to Nuke it.

Count to 10 on May 31, 2010 at 11:10 AM

If the relief well fails, this may be the final option. Notice that they are drilling two relief wells. *adjusts straps on tinfoil helmet*

bitsy on May 31, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Why are so many uninformed people saying “Nuke it”?

Two relief wells were part of BP’s Emergency Response Plan to begin with BEFORE the well was approved. SOP. This is nothing new, just that Zero tries to make everyone think that it is his administration’s idea.

Kermit on May 31, 2010 at 2:24 PM

Why are so many uninformed people saying “Nuke it”?
Kermit on May 31, 2010 at 2:24 PM

Because that’s apparently how the Russians solved the same problem the previous five times it happened.

Count to 10 on May 31, 2010 at 2:51 PM

Why are so many uninformed people saying “Nuke it”?
Kermit on May 31, 2010 at 2:24 PM

Because that’s apparently how the Russians solved the same problem the previous five times it happened.

Count to 10 on May 31, 2010 at 2:51 PM

Do you actually believe everything the Russians say? You know one of the most polluted countries on earth. One of the most prolific fisheries on earth will recovery from the oil spill far more quickly than it will from radiation. Did they do this on land or 5000 feet deep underwater? Every hear of Operation Gasbuggy?

Kermit on May 31, 2010 at 7:48 PM

I continue to come back to a couple simple questions. If this has been addressed, please tell me where to find the info.

WHY would we be drilling 5000ft down w/out having a plan or at least research on what would need to be done in the case of just such a disaster? How much time and energy went into studying how a “hole” would get “plugged” at that level?

skeedro on May 31, 2010 at 8:34 PM

There is Archival Footage Of A Soviet Nuke Plugging A Leaking Gas Well. The obvious question is, could it be used to plug the blown well in the Gulf? As important, how long would it take to drill the necessary hole, insert the nuclear device, and set it off?

Gas is compressible, so the shock wave striking the pipe inside the casing and pinching it shut in the Russian gas well video is very understandable. The pressure of the gas is much lower than the pressure of the oil spewing from the blown well in the Gulf, too. Apparently the pipe was able to withstand the shearing force and pinch together rather than rupture, a significant point for the success of the operation. Otherwise, if it simply ruptured, it would create a sprayer effect at the point where the pipe was severed, and instead of one stream of gas, there would be an uncontrolled cone with the apex at the rupture and expanding circumferentially as it rose toward the surface. It could create hundreds of mini “wells” at the surface where they originally had only one to deal with.

Would it work with incompressible liquid, with some gas intermixed, but mostly liquid under 25,000 psi (or whatever they finally decide the pressure is) several thousand feet below the Gulf? What if instead of pinching the pipe, it ruptured it in several places along with the cement casing? That high pressure liquid and gas would then be forced out in all directions and could cause numerous new leaks as it was forced out and then found paths up to the floor of the Gulf above it. That would create a nightmare scenario. Maybe BP has considered that possibility, or maybe the original explosion sent a shock wave down the riser and the pipe and this ruptured subterranean pipe phenomenon is already underway. Does BP have other video of the area showing other leaks that they have not yet released?

opaobie on June 1, 2010 at 2:24 AM

Fox News reporting that Eric Holder is in Florida to discuss the legal theories behind…

Get this…

NATIONALIZE BP to fix the leak…

Skywise on June 1, 2010 at 9:12 AM

So, in his next speech, will Obama regale us with a story of how his daughter poked her head in the bathroom while he was shaving and call him a “loser” since he didn’t get the hole plugged? Wonder if he will say how Michelle will be laughing her butt off?

TQM38a on June 1, 2010 at 9:15 AM

How long until .gov tells the public the only solution that would have worked from day 1.

Underwater Nuke

Cosmop on June 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM

Where is Aquaman when you need him?

Scorched_Earth on June 1, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Does anyone know what the pipe that they will be cutting is made of?

Rather than CUT then cap… Could they not CRIMP like a garden hose if it is metal?

Jason Gillman on June 1, 2010 at 7:55 PM

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