Quotes of the day
posted at 10:43 pm on May 19, 2010 by Allahpundit
A Pakistani court has blocked Facebook amid a growing row over a competition on the social networking website to design cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed.
Plans for the “Everybody Draw Mohammed Day” contest drew an angry reaction, provoking street demonstrations in the Muslim majority country.
On Wednesday, Lahore High Court responded to a petition by the Muslim Lawyers Movement, ordering Pakistan’s internet regulator to block the entire site…
Rai Bashir, a lawyer involved in the case, said the site was blasphemous.
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There comes a point in any society’s existence where it must ultimately, to paraphrase Martin Luther (who himself was more than happy to see opponents put to death), dig in its heels and say here we stand, we will do no other. We don’t need to be perfectly consistent philosophically or historically or theologically to assert what is special and unique not just about the United States, with its bizarre and wonderful articulation of the First Amendment, but the greater classical liberal project comprising not just the “West” (whatever that is) but human beings in whatever town, country, or planet they inhabit. And at the heart of the liberal project is ultimately a recognition that individuals, for no other reason than that they exist, have rights to continue to exist. Embedded in all that is the right to expression. No one has a right to an audience or even to a sympathetic hearing, much less an engaged audience. But no one should be beaten or killed or imprisoned simply for speaking their mind or praying to one god as opposed to the other or none at all or getting on with the small business of living their life in peaceful fashion. If we cannot or will not defend that principle with a full throat, then we deserve to choke on whatever jihadists of all stripes can force down our throats.
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This completely misunderstands the dynamic of the recent half-decade of Muhammad controversies. It was primarily the contemporary, very Western culture of relativism, multiculturalism and risk-aversion that sustained those controversies, not any uniquely Eastern super-sensitivity to being insulted. From the 2005 Danish cartoons controversy (when European imams actually took the cartoons to the Islamic world to see if people felt offended by them) to the decision not to publish The Jewel of Medina (which Random House took on the basis of one academic’s warning, not Muslim threats), the driving force of the Muhammad controversies has been pre-emptive cautiousness in Western society itself rather than significant uprisings ‘over there’ against Enlightenment values…
However, presenting the undermining of freedom and Enlightenment as a result of a foreign ‘jihad against free speech’ is far easier than facing up to the reality – which is that it is not barbarians at the gates but institutions inside the gates that have denigrated Enlightenment values. The ‘jihad against free speech’ idea is more thrilling, too, giving the secular, liberal lobby a feeling that they’re involved in a life-and-death, cross-continent struggle to defend the soul of Western liberalism from baying gangs of religious types. When in fact all they’re doing is drawing pictures of Muhammad with his knob out.
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Terrorism and self-censorship are both self-fulfilling prophecies. If you allow yourself to be terrorized, then everything looks scary, the ground is softened for restricting freedom, and the bad guys win. When nearly every respectable news outlet decides at the same time that a certain piece of content is just too offensive, too irresponsible, too dangerous to publish, then the next time around you can go ahead and take out the “nearly.” The always-booming anti-defamation industry is nothing if not hyper-attuned to tactical retreats by the target media. When squeaky wheels get grease, they squeak louder next time, ennobled by the self-censorious ways of what Reason contributor Jonathan Rauch famously described as the “kindly inquisitors.”
If, on the other hand, those of us committed to speech-expansion and the broader project of liberalism do not reward bullies, do not give in to the fear that crude cartooning is a dog whistle for suicide bombers, and instead spread the risk far beyond a handful of moderately spineful European newspapers and a couple of children’s-show animators, the prophecy loses traction in an instant, and maybe starts heading in the other direction. If people who threaten violence on cartoonists are treated not with fear but with outright mockery, and produce as a direct result of their actions not a cowed and silent respect for their fervor but an epidemic of giggling and a global WTF, maybe they’ll be less incentivized to repeat the threat next time around. Meanwhile, the rest of us, with our now-broader parameters of acceptable discourse, will be able to get on with the tasks of modernity and prosperity, a process that the great science writer Matt Ridley has described as relying above all else on “ideas having sex.”
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Oh… so stinging… so witty… You surely have a future in television, perhaps you should submit your resume to Keith Olbermann…
doriangrey on May 20, 2010 at 2:43 AM
My only problem is that I am old enough to remember Kevin Cosner as Robin Hoood and I thought it was great. I am just not impressed with remaking what I thought was a great movie. (Refer to : Planet of the Apes)
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 2:44 AM
Talk about friggin erudition. Can we get a sequel, Cicero?
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 2:44 AM
You had to deflect in order to even get on that subject, genius. We were talking rednecks and I didn’t even bring up this stuff about racist terms.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 2:45 AM
Sorry.
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 2:45 AM
What is your major malfunction? Too much drugs? Not enough drugs? Wrong drugs for your disorder? Bad genes? Bad parenting? Bad breath? Random bowel uproars?
What?
platypus on May 20, 2010 at 2:45 AM
He has a bright future as one of Chrissy McPotatohead’s ethnic fluffers. They’ll talk about how racist pickup trucks are, then laff and laff.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 2:45 AM
Kevin Costner used to be a great actor. Now he stars in films like Swing State. As for this remake, I foresee suckingness. Russell Crowe already got in trouble during a row over his accent in the movie.
andy85719 on May 20, 2010 at 2:46 AM
You shouldn’t talk about “the hood,” Naruto might accuse you of being some sort of racist Aryan KKK member.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 2:47 AM
You and Keith have more in common then you know. You both are whiney b1tches. Do you hide in bath tubs as well?
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 2:47 AM
Me, too. I loved the movie. Bryan Adams! That’s the way my mind works at almost 2 am.
TXMomof3 on May 20, 2010 at 2:48 AM
I’ve had my bowel movement. How do you think you got here?
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 2:49 AM
Let’s see what Wikipedia (granted, not a perfect source) thinks about the word ‘redneck’ (emphasis mine):
“Redneck is a derogatory slang term to refer to poor white Southern farmers in the United States.[1] It is similar in meaning to “cracker” (especially in Georgia and Florida), “hillbilly” (especially in Appalachia) and “white trash” (especially among blacks[2][3]).”
Hey, lookie there, I guess it *is* a derogatory slur. Oh, and look how racist the Wiki editors are with that “especially among blacks” part. They even included obviously-racist citations!
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 2:49 AM
I’m waiting for Red Eye.
andy85719 on May 20, 2010 at 2:49 AM
Kevin Costner used to be a great actor. Now he stars in films like Swing State. As for this remake, I foresee suckingness. Russell Crowe already got in trouble during a row over his accent in the movie.andy85719 on May 20, 2010 at 2:46 AM
I think you are going to be right. I am worried about the Red Dawn sequel. I DO NOT want them to ruin a classic.
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 2:49 AM
Wow, a poop joke. Are you one of the manatees that writes for Family Guy?
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 2:50 AM
Sorry I did not mean to strike your post out. I am sorry.
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 2:51 AM
It’s been fun but it’s a wrap. Nite y’all.
platypus on May 20, 2010 at 2:51 AM
Read back a couple hundred comments when he asked me “what kind are you?”
TXMomof3 on May 20, 2010 at 2:51 AM
I see numerous members here with the word “redneck” in their name. I think it’s hilarious. There’s nothing good about being a redneck, yet they embrace it.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 2:51 AM
You’re right. Let’s get back to platypus’s “Bowel Uproar” talk.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 2:53 AM
Tell me about it. That was a cool Bryan Adam’s song.
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 2:53 AM
So you admit redneck is a racist term and that you are a racist. At the very least, you don’t deny it.
Not that we weren’t already well aware of your racism. Some therapist is going to make a fortune off of you, Naruto.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 2:54 AM
Racists are the one who made redneck a derogatory term. Where I grew up, being a redneck meant that you were raised in a rural area and worked your butt off. Where is the shame in being a hard working blue collar worker?
TXMomof3 on May 20, 2010 at 2:55 AM
I did that because “Honda” said “one of their kind” in reference to Muslims. You’re a failure at picking up on these things. See, he said one of their kind, so I asked you what your kind is, mocking Honda? I know, it’s difficult to understand.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 2:55 AM
Also, I guess people describing themselves as ‘rednecks’ in an ironic fashion is verboten in Narutoboy-World, or at least in bad taste. Which slurs do you allow people to appropriate, Naruto? Please list them for the class, in alphabetical order.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 2:56 AM
Na, Narutoboy is a good little well adjusted liberal citizen, he dont need no shrink, he knows who the evil gun and bible clinging racists rednecks is, and dem rednecks, well dey jus aint no good…
doriangrey on May 20, 2010 at 2:57 AM
LOL. Internet really is serious business. You’re going on as if I take you seriously. Your reverse accusation of racism doesn’t effect me in the least.
I know a jew that refers to himself as a redneck. It’s more of a lifestyle thing.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 2:58 AM
I don’t think so, Nutterbutter. You asked me that because you thought I might not be white. Sorry to confirm your worst fears, I am a blue-eyed white woman married to an oil field worker.
TXMomof3 on May 20, 2010 at 2:58 AM
Well, since Muslims can come in all colors, shapes and sizes, he probably meant “Christians” when he refered to “one of his kind.”
Unless you’d like to explain how Islam is suddenly a race. By the way, you never answered, how does one spot a Muslim if they are not wearing any traditional garb? Do you have Muslim radar you can sell us? Or are you some sort of Nazi Arizonan crypto-fascist KKK-loving racist genocide artist that automatically assumes Arabs are Muslim? How RAAAAAACIST of you.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 2:58 AM
Movie remake = Badness and Sadness.
Why can’t Hollywood come up with new ideas? For the last twenty years, they seem to simply remake old material over and over. Look at the latest installment of Freddy Kreuger, etc. I hypothesize that the liberal elitism festering the town former known as Hollywoodland has destroyed creativity. Nothing new, same formulaic garbage over and over and over and over. My position is, there are really no great movies, just tolerable movies and abysmal movies.
andy85719 on May 20, 2010 at 2:59 AM
One more goofy question… What do you think of Lady Antebellum… Buy or Sell?
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 2:59 AM
Ironic? You’re a moron. Do you even live in the South. That is the term largely embraced from where I live.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 2:59 AM
He said one of THEIR kind. Reading fail.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:01 AM
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:01 AM
Pretty good for country music, more in the buy column then the sell column.
doriangrey on May 20, 2010 at 3:01 AM
Bought and wearing out to the point that my oldest child is sick to death of her mother’s music.
TXMomof3 on May 20, 2010 at 3:02 AM
And that’s the point, you imbecile. You just debunked yourself. Nice job. You equated redneck with Southern and just inadvertently admitted that it doesn’t only refer to color. You did my work for me.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:03 AM
Yeah, one of their kind. As in “Muslims.” So everyone else would be “non-Muslims.” Race isn’t anywhere in this equation, until you try to inject it with some uber 1337 concern troll skillz.
Too bad for you, no one buys your crap that anger against Islam is indicative of racism. Better luck next time.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:03 AM
ROTFLMAO… No, you made yourself look like a fool all by yourself…
doriangrey on May 20, 2010 at 3:04 AM
What race were the Jews who called themselves “Rednecks,” Naruto?
I said Judaism isn’t a race, because it isn’t. You seem to think that mentioning that even Jews call themselves rednecks somehow makes it not an anti-white slur. As usual, you were wrong.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:05 AM
Hahahah. Way to put your foot in your mouth.
followed by….
This is the person that has been badgering me about using the term redneck. You owned yourself, dude.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:05 AM
Narutoboy is about to set a Guinness World Record for deflections. That’s about 10 straight posts where I asked him a direct question, and he has answered 0 of them.
It would be impressive if he weren’t so full of bullcrap.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:06 AM
My wife said that they will replace the Dixie Chicks. I hated to boycott the Dixie Chicks it was tough. Does liking Lady Antebellum make us Racists?
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 3:08 AM
Israeli. Not that it matters. Like I said redneck is a lifestyle. Thanks for inadvertently proving my point and sticking your foot in your mouth by equating Southerners with rednecks. Nice job. Really.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:08 AM
I’m beginning to think that you have a learning disability and that continuing to make you look like an idiot is actually cruel and abusive. But it’s fun, so I will continue.
Once again, you tried to debunk ‘redneck’ as an anti-white slur by mentioning that it is appropriated by some Jews. Since Judaism isn’t a race, and the Jews who referred to themselves in this way were white, you have yet to prove that redneck isn’t an anti-white slur.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:08 AM
And I don’t know what race you would classify them as, but I doubt it’s Caucasian.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:09 AM
You mean like you calling all Southerners racists, inbreds and ‘moonshiners’? When you say these things about 10 times a thread, are you including the black ones as well?
Didn’t think so.
Oh, and Israeli’s a nationality, not a race, so you’re still batting 0-2 on mentioning a race. Gee, I wonder why?
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:10 AM
What kind of music do you like?
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 3:10 AM
Yes, I am sorry. We have been outed as racist bigots. I loved the Dixie Chicks. Too bad Natalie Maines couldn’t keep her mouth shut! I loved their music, too.
TXMomof3 on May 20, 2010 at 3:10 AM
There is none so wise in their own eyes as a fool set in his folly…
King Solomon must have had one hell of a vision of the future to so accurately describe Narutoboy so long ago…
doriangrey on May 20, 2010 at 3:11 AM
Apparently, they are classified as “Caucasian.” Interesting. Calling them “white” is still inappropriate, I think.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:11 AM
Also, I will repeat the Wiki definition for those among us who have severe learning disabilities:
“Redneck is a derogatory slang term to refer to poor white Southern farmers in the United States.[1] It is similar in meaning to “cracker” (especially in Georgia and Florida), “hillbilly” (especially in Appalachia) and “white trash” (especially among blacks[2][3]).”
Yes, redneck is an anti-Southern slur. It’s also an anti-white slur. For some reason, you seem to think it cannot be both. Once again, you are wrong. This is becoming a pattern. Wake me up when you’re ever right about something, kid.
A white New Yorker probably won’t be called a redneck. A white Alabaman probably will be called a redneck by racists like Narutoboy. Somehow, in his diseased little mind, this means that redneck isn’t an anti-white slur. Astonishing how many hoops you have to jump through for that to make even a modicum of sense.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:13 AM
Slow down Speedy. I already clarified myself before you made that comment.
I have said before that white rednecks and black hicks have a lot in common. So yes, I am including them.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:13 AM
Yes they did some great work. We have all of the CD’s up to the point they jumped the shark.
PS. That American Honey song by Lady Antebellum is really good.
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 3:14 AM
You quoted something that says it’s a term used against poor white Southern farmers. You managed to quote the white Southern part but left out the farmer part. I wonder why. You’re hilarious. That definition, like all definitions, is not the be all end all. Words and phrases grow to encompass more people than when they originated.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:16 AM
Your post was at 3:11 AM, so no, you didn’t. :)
Interesting how you say “black hicks.” Almost like hick simply means someone from the sticks and has no racial connotations whereas redneck is an anti-white slur. But that couldn’t be!
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:17 AM
Oh geeze, why dont ya ask me an easy question, like can I explain heisenberg’s uncertainty principle in terms Narutoboy would understand.
Umm, Classical, Jazz, Blues, Rock…
doriangrey on May 20, 2010 at 3:17 AM
My favorite.
TXMomof3 on May 20, 2010 at 3:18 AM
That is pretty much in wheelhouse also. All though the Rock is getting harder to find.
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 3:19 AM
Ummm, cough cough, they didnt “jump the shark”, they jumped into the shark… Hell at least when Fonzi jumped the shark he landed and didnt crash…
doriangrey on May 20, 2010 at 3:21 AM
Redneck is also an anti-white slur according to UD and the Racial Slur Database. That’s three sources, Naruto. Care to give us ONE source that claims that redneck isn’t an anti-white slur?
Next you’re going to claim that honky, cracker and peckerwood can refer to people of any race. Amazing.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:22 AM
I made one at 09 in reference to Israel not being a race.
LMAO. I use them interchangeably. You read too much into the terms.
If it’s a racist term, why do so many adult rednecks embrace it? With the n-word, most of the people using it are immature youths or rappers, while the adults have been on a campaign to put an end to it.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:22 AM
One of the best new songs out. With this I am out! Night, all.
TXMomof3 on May 20, 2010 at 3:22 AM
Oh, also, you’re a liar. I quoted the entire passage. I didn’t BOLD farmer, but I noted that the emphasis was my own. Bolding and quoting are, of course, completely different things.
So now it’s fair to say that you’re a lying racist.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:23 AM
That database lists “big nose” as a racial slur. LMFAO! I almost choked.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:25 AM
Good night!
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 3:26 AM
That’s a generalization, and a bad one. Prove to me that a higher percentage of Southern whites use redneck than black people use the n-word, with actual numbers.
No matter how many white people call each other the n-word, or even if black people call white people the n-word (which, for some odd reason, actually happens), it’s still an anti-black slur. Just like redneck, even if you used by somebody to describe a black man, is still an anti-white slur.
Cripes, I could call a Pakistani immigrant a mick, but that doesn’t change what the word means. You have to prove, with actual sources, that “redneck” is no longer seen as an anti-white slur, and right now, it’s my 3 sources to your 0.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:29 AM
I was talking about you bolding it. I did visit the Wikipedia page, I only read what you posted, so obviously you didn’t actually leave it out. You didn’t bold that part. Why? Because emphasizing that would’ve made you look foolish and would’ve proven my point? That definition pidgeon-holes the term to poor white Southern farmers. I assume you don’t actually think that the term ONLY applies to poor white Southern farmers, do you?
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:29 AM
It is. Having large noses is a Jewish stereotype.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:31 AM
Maybe you should say bold instead of quote then, liar.
So you have proven that redneck now extends beyond the poor and beyond farmers. So, your next step is to prove that it extends beyond white people in common usage. Any sources for that, Naruto? And no, “one black guy I know calls himself a redneck” doesn’t count.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:33 AM
Oh come on now, havent you figured it out yet? Our southerner blue blood art school genius is always right, even when he’s wrong and a racist.
doriangrey on May 20, 2010 at 3:34 AM
LMAO. So what are you saying? All Jewish people have big noses? Not very nice of you to imply. You call it a stereotype, but classifying “big nose” (ROFL — you can’t even be serious with this nonsense) as a “racial slur” would imply that they all must have that characteristic. If I go up to a jew with a big nose and I said he/she has a big nose, then they have a big nose. And anybody can be a jew.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:34 AM
Proven it? Based on what? I made a statement. “Redneck extends to non-whites too” I did the same thing I did to “prove” that it extends past the poor and farmers, so why won’t you accept that? You’re slipping, moron.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:36 AM
Wait, it gets better. The site you referenced lists “Jesus Killer” as a racial slur. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What happened to classifying things as insults? First of all, I thought being a Jew wasn’t a race? That’s what you told me. Your own source contradicts your statements.
Try harder.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:40 AM
Jesus, are you serious? Do you not even understand what constitutes a stereotype or an ethnic slur? You’re acting, right? Please say this is an act.
I guess “Taco Bender” is not an ethnic slur because not all hispanic people eat tacos. Hey, they dont all eat beans either, so “beaner” isn’t an ethnic slur. “WOP” stands for “Without Papers,” and many Italian immigrants had papers, so I guess WOP isn’t a slur either. Towelhead? Not an Arab or Muslim slur, because not all Arabs or Muslims wear headdresses. Slant? Not an ethnic slur against Asians, since they don’t all have slanted-eyes. Not all Irish last names begin with “Mc” or “Mac,” so Mick isn’t an Irish slur.
Seriously, man, you CANNOT be this dumb.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:42 AM
Have a good one. Just don’t get banned over Narutoboy. :)
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 3:42 AM
I have sources. Your source is “I said so.”
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:43 AM
Have a good one. Just do not get banned over Narutoboy. :)
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 3:44 AM
Failed comparison. Going up to a random Hispanic and calling them a beaner is senseless. Unless there eating beans at that moment, you don’t know what they like. If a the jewish person you’re in front of has a big nose, well, they have a big nose. It isn’t racist to tell someone they have a big nose. Also, there is another difference. Who in the world says beaner to state that they like beans? People say beaner because it refers to Hispanics in general. Whereas, if I said big nose, I’m probably talking to someone that does have one, and he/she happens to be Jewish, so what. Not all Jews have big noses.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:46 AM
That site also has slurs against religions, ethnicities and nationalities. You’ll note that some of the categories include “Canadians,” “Jews,” and “Muslims.”
Try harder. Or better yet, try at all. You’ve yet to make one argument that wasn’t monumentally stupid.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:46 AM
I’m preserving this for posterity, because it may be the single dumbest argument I have ever seen in my entire life. This needs to be printed out, bronzed, and displayed at the Smithsonian. Better yet, the Louvre, because this takes stupidity to an art form.
You are beyond parody at this point, Naruto.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:48 AM
You just claimed that I proved that “redneck” does not only refer to the poor and farmers. All I did was SAY that it doesn’t just apply to them. Yet in that case, my word was good enough. So my word should be good enough on the other issue.
According to your own words, Judaism isn’t a race. Your database lists “big nose” as a racial slur. Those two contradict each other.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:49 AM
Alright, I’m done. After Naruto’s last comment, I can’t even take this argument seriously anymore. This is like playing chess, exxcept I have 15 Queens and 1 King and Naruto has 15 pawns and 1 King. Sure, you’ll win every time, but it’s not even enjoyable.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 20, 2010 at 3:51 AM
Typical weasel way of arguing. Not arguing at all. Everything I said was true. All Jews don’t have big noses. Saying someone has a big nose isn’t a slur, even towards a jew (why? Because they don’t all have big noses – simple, huh?). When someone says beaner, they don’t do it because they’re eating beans. Now let me stop and connect these two so your tiny brain doesn’t have to overwork itself. When you’re saying someone has a big nose, you most likely know that they have a big nose. Calling someone a beaner refers to no characteristic really, not even eating beans. It’s used as a general term against Hispanics. People who call others beaners probably aren’t picturing them eating beans. Not too hard to understand the difference.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:55 AM
How about addressing this?
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 3:56 AM
Means little to me. I saw it unfold. If you want to get to their leader, you wait them out. Every time someone comes out of the compound for provisions, you don’t let them back inside. Eventually everyone has to come out.
You don’t drive tanks in there.
And Ruby Ridge? You’re telling me you did research on it, and you’re taking that stand? The FBI overreach was sickening. What you are saying is that a man cannot enjoy the freedom of being a racist if he so chooses, he should be put down.
John the Libertarian on May 20, 2010 at 3:59 AM
OMG. I just noticed something. Your source lists JEW as a slur for JEWS. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Seriously, it’s on the site. Good Solid B Plus, you have officially earned your dumb@ss title.
“Jew Jews Short for Jewish. Not really a slur but could be if you say it the right way.”
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 4:01 AM
The stand off lasted for months (or somewhere around 50 days or more), didn’t it? They did a lot of waiting.
I looked into that one (Ruby Ridge) briefly. It does appear that they overreached. I just don’t care that much.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 4:05 AM
You have been impressive. Again Thank you!
I can’t even respond to this drivel. People died Narutoboy! And from what I understand they were not doing nothing wrong.
Dire Straits on May 20, 2010 at 4:44 AM
The stand off lasted for months (or somewhere around 50 days or more), didn’t it? They did a lot of waiting.
Narutoboy on May 20, 2010 at 4:05 AM
More like 20 days. It was a horrible pox on the ATF. It was sickening what happened. Those Branch Davidians who fired on the ATF were very likely coerced into doing so, but there were still innocents who were killed.
John the Libertarian on May 20, 2010 at 4:48 AM
PHOTO: Here’s my entry for Draw Mo Day.
Urban Infidel on May 20, 2010 at 7:14 AM
Naruto- you have proved yourself a fool . Your use of “redneck” makes you as bad as any racist.
CWforFreedom on May 20, 2010 at 7:22 AM
Naruto- another no doubter- you’re an ugly person but I suspect you know that.
CWforFreedom on May 20, 2010 at 7:22 AM
Islam claims that Christ is a prophet, rather than the son of God. Islam is therefore blasphemous. Should we emulate the Islamists and ban Islam?
Basilsbest on May 20, 2010 at 7:53 AM
Facebook is deleting accounts that post pictures to the “Everybody draw Mohammed” page. Last I checked, the vile pictures of Jesus were still up.
csdeven on May 20, 2010 at 7:56 AM
Depends. If “you” are a Jew then I think they feel obligated just on principle. Christian? The qur’ran pretty much says they should but only about ten percent seem all that jazzed to do so. It’s like – I’m Baptist and I’m NOT supposed to drink or dance but I do anyway. So what we have here are not extreme muslim fundamentalists. What we have are a billion muslims who are the equivalent of bad Baptists and the ten percent who are actually going to heaven because they are following the faith to the letter and killing like crazed weasels. They aren’t supposed to drink either and I’ve been out drinking with a few so … most of us will live to a ripe old age and have a lot of explaining to do when we get to make our case at the gates. Fortunately for “us” most muslims seem a-ok with that.
BrideOfRove on May 20, 2010 at 7:58 AM
“I’m going to raise some questions: Why are you so keen to mock Muhammad?”
This guys article creates a multitude of new questions, here’s a few;
Does he actually get paid to write this stuff?
Does he have a college degree and if he does, how could a university give a degree to someone with such dysfunctional mental capacities?
Should parents be warned about the university that produced this guy so they don’t waste their money?
Has a state given this guy a drivers license? His cognitive ability is not suited to a task where decisions are made instantly and the wrong decision could be very dangerous.
Is he married and is his wife a babe? Because if she is we should send the hells angels or the bloods and crips over to his nice house for a wild party with her. They can trash the house and her at the same time. He can stand by and watch and then blame her for everything because, afterall, she’s the attractive one.
peacenprosperity on May 20, 2010 at 7:59 AM
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Here’s My Addition to the mix:
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papa_giorgio on May 20, 2010 at 8:06 AM
When you let a cow by with bad behavior once, she’ll be jumping every fence the next time.
When a dog gets to hump your leg once, he’ll do it again, next time for longer.
Avg muslims may be too busy right now with surviving to worry about infidels.
But bcs they are muslims, they follow the Koran.
Read it once & that’s all it takes for you to understand the mindset.
Taqiyya anyone?
DUH!
I’m all for isolating these people in the countries they come from.
Leave us alone, we leave you alone.
Problem is, they want EVERYONE to be muslim, or dead, or a dhimmi.
Why is this so hard for people to understand?
Read the Koran. It’s in their own words what they believe. And you can’t refute it.
Muslims & Christians can never permanently co-exist.
The muslim, when in a situation of less power, will practice taqiyya until the time they are strong.
Anyone who is muslim cannot take oaths of loyalty to infidels.
So every practicing muslim who takes an oath of citizenship is a liar.
GET A CLUE!
TAQIYYA!!!!!
Badger40 on May 20, 2010 at 8:09 AM
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