Open thread: Primary night in Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Kentucky; Update: AP calls it for Rand Paul

posted at 7:25 pm on May 18, 2010 by Allahpundit

The big one, obviously, is Specter vs. Sestak, but there’s a lot on the menu. In Arkansas, Blanche Lincoln needs 50 percent to avoid a runoff with the nutroots candidate; in Kentucky, the Republican base is poised not only to nominate one of the Paul boys for Senate but to do it in a landslide(!); and in Pennsylvania, as an undercard to the main event, Tim Burns could give the DNC a full-on panic attack by stealing Murtha’s seat in the special election. That’s actually the most important race of the night, as a Republican win will drive a thousand stories tomorrow about how November is suddenly looking less like an “anti-incumbent” election than an “anti-Democratic” one. A scene on the ground from this morning featuring Democratic candidate Mark Critz:

“I don’t want to interrupt you, I just wanted to say, ‘Hi, I’m running for Congress,’ ” he told two men in trucker hats and work shirts, who took his hand politely. Both Democrats, one acknowledged later he’d be voting for [Republican Tim] Burns and the other said he was undecided because of his displeasure with the Democrats’ support of the health-care overhaul.

At a nearby table, Richard Gray, 58, a machine operator, said he was a registered Democrat but would be voting for Burns because of his outrage over the health-care bill, which he believes was passed against the wishes of the people. “I’m fed up with the Democrats. It’s like they know what’s better for us than we do,” he said.

Politico’s got you covered if you’re looking to follow returns. With 13 percent of the precincts in Kentucky reporting, Rand Paul already leads by … 18 points. The polls in Arkansas close at 8:30 and in Pennsylvania at 8; stand by for updates, needless to say. To get you motivated for the results, do note that Benedict Arlen ended his primary campaign this morning by observing, “Beating the tea party gang is more important than who does the beating.” As much as I’d like to imagine him crashing and burning tonight, I think he’s actually going to squeak through. Heart-achey exit prediction: Specter 51, Sestak 49.

Update: That was fast.

Political novice Rand Paul rode support from tea party activists to victory in Kentucky’s Republican Senate primary Tuesday night, delivering a jolt to the GOP establishment and providing fresh evidence of widespread voter discontent in a turbulent midterm election season.

Paul had 59 percent of the vote—with returns counted from 29 percent of the precincts—to 37 percent for Secretary of State Trey Grayson, who had been recruited to run by the state’s dominant Republican, U.S. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

So there’s your “tea party” storyline tomorrow morning, although I’m not sure it’s one many of the HA faithful wanted. It’s cool to think that Alex Jones will now have a pipeline to the Senate too instead of just the House, huh?


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On the other hand, Rick Santorum supported the other guy and Santorum is a strong conservative too. So, I don’t know what to think. I hope the Democrats are wrong and that Paul is able to make himself palatable to the majority of the Ky voters.

Terrye on May 18, 2010 at 10:32 PM

Indeed. And Santorum recently endorsed Fiorina in CA after Palin endorsed her yet she keeps getting hammered for not endorsing the “true conservative”.

KittyLowrey on May 18, 2010 at 11:10 PM

FDR taunted Japan into attacking us with the implementation of the Tojo Doctine. You think it was pure luck that our carriers were out of port when the Japs hit Pearl Harbor? And decades before we had the highly suspect Lusitania incident with our ole pal Woodrow Wilson? We lost a good portion of national soul getting involved in those messes.

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:04 PM

Just like Bush bombed the World Trade Center. This is where we always wind up when the Paulbots arrive.
And some wonder why sane people might be worried about the direction the Paul crowd might take us. Good Lord.

Big Orange on May 18, 2010 at 11:11 PM

Wrote it at the other forum, but Burns still stands a chance:
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2010/05/results-from-pa-special-election.html

orfannkyl on May 18, 2010 at 11:11 PM

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:04 PM

Taunts or no, Japan hit first and hit hard. We really didn’t have much choice. And then there was the whole thing with Hitler running roughshod over all of Europe with the “Final Solution”.

Now WW1 was a whole ‘nother deal…we had absolutely ZERO business getting involved in Europe’s self-created slaughterhouse. Our forefathers warned against foreign entanglements for the very same reasons: we could get dragged into bloody war via a web of favors owed via treaties/alliances/etc. And of course the impossible conditions imposed on Germany made the populace ripe for a savior…

Dark-Star on May 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM

FDR taunted Japan into attacking us with the implementation of the Tojo Doctine. You think it was pure luck that our carriers were out of port when the Japs hit Pearl Harbor? And decades before we had the highly suspect Lusitania incident with our ole pal Woodrow Wilson? We lost a good portion of national soul getting involved in those messes.

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:04 PM

What the hell is going on? Pitchforker, you are wrongo.

orfannkyl on May 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM

Man, it really feels good. Good riddance, Snarlin–see you on Dancin with the Stars. You belong in the stockade for your shapeshifting crimes, so consider this a gift. Now, we need to get rid of your fellow travelers, McLame, Boxer the dwarf, Crist, and many others. But your political death is sweet

And to those who voted for him 6 times, you really are dumber than rocks. But of course, you’d be too dumb to read this.

Western_Civ on May 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM

Just like Bush bombed the World Trade Center. This is where we always wind up when the Paulbots arrive.

Your words, chump.

Dark-Star on May 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM

Your words, chump.

Dark-Star on May 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM

Maybe FDR done it.

Big Orange on May 18, 2010 at 11:15 PM

Taunts or no, Japan hit first and hit hard. We really didn’t have much choice. And then there was the whole thing with Hitler running roughshod over all of Europe with the “Final Solution”.

Now WW1 was a whole ‘nother deal…we had absolutely ZERO business getting involved in Europe’s self-created slaughterhouse. Our forefathers warned against foreign entanglements for the very same reasons: we could get dragged into bloody war via a web of favors owed via treaties/alliances/etc. And of course the impossible conditions imposed on Germany made the populace ripe for a savior…

Dark-Star on May 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM

True about Japan’s intentions but FDR and his handlers wanted entrance into the war.

Moreover, the ridiculous conditions of the Treaty of Versailles created the conditions for a Hitler to take control of Germany. Which traces back to the Lusitania incident. America had no business being thrust into WW1.

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:16 PM

Who said anything about Islamic nation building?

Terrye on May 18, 2010 at 10:45 PM

Bush, Obama, Petreaus, McChrystal … … …

MB4 on May 18, 2010 at 11:17 PM

Obama and his minions will be crowing about PA-12 in the morning… god awful…

WordsMatter on May 18, 2010 at 10:36 PM

boo freakin’ hoo… let ‘em!

You sound like the kid that says, “Well, Tommy and all the guys will say I’m a sissy if I don’t X,Y, or Z.”

And Mom says, “If Tommy told you to jump off a bridge…”

My last thought, before I retire: I was pretty nonplussed when Sarah supported Rand Paul. In fact, I could say I was dissappointed. But because I thought so highly of her, I didn’t dismiss the endorsement, and I looked at him more closely. He’s his father’s son alright…but he ain’t his father, at least not yet. (My opinion is pretty verbose as to why, but I’ll save it.)

Our Sarah is lookin’ pretty savvy right about now, IMO.

Chewy the Lab on May 18, 2010 at 11:19 PM

Just like Bush bombed the World Trade Center. This is where we always wind up when the Paulbots arrive.
And some wonder why sane people might be worried about the direction the Paul crowd might take us. Good Lord.

Big Orange on May 18, 2010 at 11:11 PM

No. I highly doubt that. Bush wouldn’t kill innocent civilians nor intentionally implode the airline industry. It’s not smart politics.

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:19 PM

True about Japan’s intentions but FDR and his handlers wanted entrance into the war.

Got some sources? I could see some motives on their part, but I’d like to do some research.

Moreover, the ridiculous conditions of the Treaty of Versailles created the conditions for a Hitler to take control of Germany. Which traces back to the Lusitania incident. America had no business being thrust into WW1.

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:16 PM

Already said that.

Dark-Star on May 18, 2010 at 11:19 PM

No. I highly doubt that. Bush wouldn’t kill innocent civilians nor intentionally implode the airline industry. It’s not smart politics.

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:19 PM

Indeed.

He can be accused of many things…but deliberately orchestrating 9/11 is not one of them. And he certainly wasn’t the first President to stick his head in the sand about the risk of such an attack.

While it’s quite possible that there’s been some serious arse-covering after the fact, it is so implausible for this to have been ordered as to be not worth considering.

Dark-Star on May 18, 2010 at 11:22 PM

Who said anything about Islamic nation building?

Terrye on May 18, 2010 at 10:45 PM

Bush, Obama, Petreaus, McChrystal … … …

MB4 on May 18, 2010 at 11:17 PM

Oh please. And what was better? Pulling out of Lebanon or bailing out on Afghanistan once the Soviets were out of there and letting crazies take over? Or how about making deals with the devil for years only to have to deal with them later? How did that policy work for years and years, where did it get us?

After WW2 the victors did not just rebuild those nations to be nice, they did it to have control over what came after..so that there might not be a WW3. I don’t think that sticking around in the Middle East is Islamic nation building, it is national defense, our national defense.

Terrye on May 18, 2010 at 11:24 PM

No. I highly doubt that. Bush wouldn’t kill innocent civilians nor intentionally implode the airline industry. It’s not smart politics.

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:19 PM

Not to mention the fact that he is a decent man who loves his country.

Terrye on May 18, 2010 at 11:26 PM

True about Japan’s intentions but FDR and his handlers wanted entrance into the war.

Got some sources? I could see some motives on their part, but I’d like to do some research.

Moreover, the ridiculous conditions of the Treaty of Versailles created the conditions for a Hitler to take control of Germany. Which traces back to the Lusitania incident. America had no business being thrust into WW1.

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:16 PM

Already said that.

Dark-Star on May 18, 2010 at 11:19 PM

My friend…
start off with the McCollum Memo. The revelations are startling.
http://rationalrevolution.net/war/mccollum.htm

In my opinion, FDR and his socialist cabal are quite possibly the greatest rogues of modern history. They literally changed the course of our republic, both domestically and in terms of foreign policy.

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:26 PM

True about Japan’s intentions but FDR and his handlers wanted entrance into the war.

Moreover, the ridiculous conditions of the Treaty of Versailles created the conditions for a Hitler to take control of Germany. Which traces back to the Lusitania incident. America had no business being thrust into WW1.

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:16 PM

We were giving aid and comfort to Imperial Germany’s enemies.

Holger on May 18, 2010 at 11:27 PM

Darkstar regarding FDR and his questionable motives, start off with the McCollum memo. It’s revelations are startling:

http://rationalrevolution.net/war/mccollum.htm

Basically, FDR and his handlers put a full court press on Japan, encouraging a pearl harbor like response. It’s even mentioned in the document that an attack by Japan would be welcomed.

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:29 PM

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:16 PM

Well, if the Germans had not tried to enlist the aid of the Mexicans against the US, there might not have been so much of a desire to get in the war.

Believe it or not, our enemies are not always innocent little victims.

Terrye on May 18, 2010 at 11:30 PM

True about Japan’s intentions but FDR and his handlers wanted entrance into the war.

With Hitler taking over Europe, bombing and invading many of our allies, and Japan slaughtering people across the Orient, can you blame him?

Moreover, the ridiculous conditions of the Treaty of Versailles created the conditions for a Hitler to take control of Germany. Which traces back to the Lusitania incident. America had no business being thrust into WW1.

Pitchforker on May 18, 2010 at 11:16 PM

Wait…had no business being thrust into WW1?

I didn’t know we had a choice about being thrust into it. Do you mean had no business entering it? If so, 130 dead Americans on the Lusitania would beg to disagree.

MadisonConservative on May 19, 2010 at 12:13 AM

Another Paul in the Congress. As I’ve stated before with Ron Paul, I mostly like the guy on domestic issues but when it comes to foreign policy….. absolute disaster. They pretend to be “non-interventionist” but that’s just a fancy way of saying isolationist and that simply does not work.

Yakko77 on May 19, 2010 at 7:55 AM

I see there’s some tin foil hats on here.
I would expect nothing less from a thread even loosely connected to Ron Paul.

Badger40 on May 19, 2010 at 2:04 PM

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