AZ utility board member responds to LA boycott over SB1070
posted at 2:55 pm on May 18, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
The Los Angeles City Council voted to boycott the state of Arizona over its new immigration-enforcement law, and now the Arizona Corporation Commission has responded. Gary Pierce, one of the commissioners chosen in state-wide elections to the utility regulation panel, notes that Los Angeles gets about 25% of its power from Arizona producers. If the City of Angels really wants a boycott, Pierce offers his services to help, as he explains in a letter to Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and copied to Hot Air:
Dear Mayor Villaraigosa,
I was dismayed to learn that the Los Angeles City Council voted to boycott Arizona and Arizona-based companies — a vote you strongly supported — to show opposition to SB 1070 (Support our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act).
You explained your support of the boycott as follows: “While we recognize that as neighbors, we share resources and ties with the State of Arizona that may be difficult to sever, our goal is not to hurt the local economy of Los Angeles, but to impact the economy of Arizona. Our intent is to use our dollars — or the withholding of our dollars — to send a message.” (emphasis added)
I received your message; please receive mine. As a state-wide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona’s electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the “resources and ties” we share with the City of Los Angeles. In fact, approximately twenty-five percent of the electricity consumed in Los Angeles is generated by power plants in Arizona.
If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation. I am confident that Arizona’s utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands. If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona’s economy.
People of goodwill can disagree over the merits of SB 1070. A state-wide economic boycott of Arizona is not a message sent in goodwill.
Sincerely,
Commissioner Gary Pierce
A scan of the letter can be downloaded here. I wonder what Commissioner Pierce has to say about Councilman Ed Reyes’ lack of understanding of California’s own penal code? Maybe the AZCC could buy a copy for Reyes, although it might be difficult to read during the blackout in Los Angeles.
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Have faith folks HotAir.com is a news source that is widely read. This commissioner is no fool.
meci on May 18, 2010 at 4:12 PM
Gary Pierce, talk is cheap…I really hope that your ready to back them words up with actions. I would dearly love to see AZ pull the damn plug on CA. Hell, I’d love to see all the states that supply CA with power shut them down. Make CA start generating their own damn power.
Harry S on May 18, 2010 at 4:13 PM
The Late Great Golden State….I weep for you California, the
progressivessocialist have run a great state into the ground.Villaraigosa – stupid is as stupid does.
Dr Evil on May 18, 2010 at 4:14 PM
What the letter really says is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmvnXKRfdb8
boooya!
TheSitRep on May 18, 2010 at 4:14 PM
Closing the ports would have ramifications far greater than just AZ, so that won’t happen, Sacramento isn’t that stooooopid, is it?
If you take the time to read CA penal code you will find similar language, the problem is NOBODY in authority in CA wants to enforce it.
belad on May 18, 2010 at 4:15 PM
Thanks for the list of SRP plants. You’re always a great resource. Here’s a link for APS. They also have generation plants all over the state and I think they might employ more than SRP. http://www.aps.com/general_info/AboutAPS_18.html
GrannySunni on May 18, 2010 at 4:15 PM
As a resident of SoCal I say, good for AZ, maybe when those idiots who allowed the leftards to get elected feel the pain of their inaction they will get off their lazy a$$’s and do something to correct the situation.
I am in San Diego County, not the city itself, I always vote, and I always do my homework on who and what I am voting for. I say, time for my fellow Californian’s to reap what they have sown.
doriangrey on May 18, 2010 at 4:15 PM
It’s a sure thing they haven’t even read their own laws about illegal immigration. The preexisting California law and the new Arizona law have a lot of similarities.
Guardian on May 18, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Just in case you all are getting the idea that Los Angelenos are as stupid and out of touch as our stupid and out of touch city council… The Los Angeles Times did an online poll of what we thought… The results were so humiliating for the Times and the Council that the Times buried the poll results… 94 percent of us support the AZ law. We told the Council to mind it’s own damn business!
CCRWM on May 18, 2010 at 4:21 PM
Glad to hear that someone is standing up for our beautiful state! Too bad I live in Tucson (aka as land locked San Francisco)where the lib’s run wild and free! The city council here is suing the state over SB1070….simply amazing!
KDANAZ on May 18, 2010 at 4:22 PM
My email to the AZ board member responsible:
Dear sir,
Regarding the letter described at http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/18/az-utility-board-member-responds-to-la-boycott-over-sb1070/ — good for you! Once again, elected officials in California show themselves to be a pathetic lot, disconnected from reality. Please send us some of yours.
Regards,
cthulhu on May 18, 2010 at 4:22 PM
War between the states!
ronsfi on May 18, 2010 at 4:26 PM
Isn’t it unconstitutional for state and local governments to engage in boycotts against other states and local governments?
The very idea that LA would do this is ridiculous anyway. The mayors of LA and San Francisco have refused to cooperate with the feds when it comes to illegal immigration for years and years now. That is one reason California has so many illegals. They know that if they can get past the border they have a place to go where they will be safe.
Terrye on May 18, 2010 at 4:28 PM
They are preparing for Jerry Brown Guv, Nuisance Lt-Guv and Kamala Harris AG in Sac.
They don’t want the ‘Bologna family murders’ coming up among indy voters (but both Nuisance and Harris want to use it to get illegals and hispanic votes)
macncheez on May 18, 2010 at 4:31 PM
Bob, as a fellow Californian, I see your point, but I don’t agree with your conclusion.
Our beloved state is dying of a terminal idiot infestation at all levels of government, from Sacramento on down to all the busybodies in the neighborhood councils. The medicine to purge the idiots will be strong and unpleasant, but we must take it if we are to survive.
The CA legislature has very carefully gerrymandered the state to ensure a safe majority of liberal Democrats in the state government. That’s what neutralized (neutered?) Arnie in his first year as Governator. (Oh, what a disappointment he turned out to be!) You and I and the other bitterly clinging California conservatives have been neutralized as well. We need some external event to shake up the status quo, to crack their armor just enough to get our fingernails in there to pry it loose. This could be that event.
If AZ cuts off our power, there is no doubt that all Californians will suffer. The conservatives, libertarians, and other persons who don’t rely on government will bear the suffering and find ways to carry on, help each other, and even prosper in spite of it. The liberals and their enablers will whine and cry loudly and blame each other. And the scales will start to fall from some of their eyes, just as is now happening with some Obama voters.
We need this. California needs this. The whole state apparatus has been trying to live in a fantasy land. It’s time for a dose of reality.
Mary in LA on May 18, 2010 at 4:34 PM
Russian Scholar Says U.S. Will Collapse Next Year; Split Into Six Rump States
MOSCOW — If you’re inclined to believe Igor Panarin, and the Kremlin wouldn’t mind if you did, then President Barack Obama will order martial law this year, the U.S. will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order.
Dr Evil on May 18, 2010 at 4:37 PM
Competition canopfor….watch out. Someone is vieing for your “human encyclopedia” title… LOL
sicoit on May 18, 2010 at 4:41 PM
Call before you dig — that’s a hot one — sure to spark debate !
wheels on May 18, 2010 at 4:44 PM
Just called commissioner Pierce’s office and congratulated him and expressed my support of his actions…even if I can’t vote in Arizona.
Oldnuke on May 18, 2010 at 4:47 PM
LA: What, we aren’t the center of the universe and we depend on others?
James on May 18, 2010 at 4:47 PM
Then tell them at the only place it matters..The Ballot Box! Same with the dweebs you’ve got in Sacramento.
Oldnuke on May 18, 2010 at 4:50 PM
The letter from the AZ Commissioner was like a 16 inch shell from the battleship USS NEW JERSEY…
Best “bag of hammers to the side of the head” I have seen in 10 years…
Khun Joe on May 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM
I was trying to think of one thing we produce here in LA that people could boycott and I came up with nothing of substance… Even the film making industry has mostly fled the City and the State! Sad…
CCRWM on May 18, 2010 at 4:53 PM
I just forwarded the letter on to a list of friends, all of them sympathetic to the cause of course. I’m sure that at least half of them will pass it along to their lists. Word’s gonna get out. Dollar to a doughnut that Rush will lead off with it tomorrow.
Oldnuke on May 18, 2010 at 4:58 PM
Simply delicious with an extra large dollop of awesome sauce!
Desert Gardens on May 18, 2010 at 5:02 PM
What do you think we’ve been doing? Voting for the liberal idiots?
speed911 on May 18, 2010 at 5:03 PM
Whoop, there it is! Idiot LA council and mayor. Brown outs in LA this summer! Yipppeeeee!
jbh45 on May 18, 2010 at 5:11 PM
Old nuke there are 15 Council Districts and the Dems have 14 of them. The Latinos dominate 4 districts so they will only elect those who will serve their Latino interest… As for the state itself I think we have some of the lowest turnout rates which might end up helping us as conservatives are motivated to vote right now…
CCRWM on May 18, 2010 at 5:18 PM
Pierce !!!.. You magnificent bastard.
franksalterego on May 18, 2010 at 5:29 PM
Oh Man, I gotta move to Arizona!!!
SoldiersMom on May 18, 2010 at 5:30 PM
Excellent!
Alana on May 18, 2010 at 5:32 PM
Pull the plug baby!!!
Bubba Redneck on May 18, 2010 at 5:34 PM
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Obama will so be as happy as a pig in a shite…
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RalphyBoy on May 18, 2010 at 5:37 PM
That’s going to hurt.
smokinjoe on May 18, 2010 at 5:39 PM
Great job Gary Pierce! He’s a good man who is running for re-election this year….
He’s got my vote!
cmsinaz on May 18, 2010 at 5:45 PM
There must some application for this here:
Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do.
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.
The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.
LarryG on May 18, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Somebody’s voting for them, maybe not you personally but enough to keep them in power. So to answer your question YES Californians routinely vote to keep these people in office.
Oldnuke on May 18, 2010 at 5:51 PM
I know things are bad there. Once upon a time I lived in Garden Grove, still have family spread all over the state. It’s gonna get worse for productive folk too since they are migrating away from the state.
Oldnuke on May 18, 2010 at 5:54 PM
And I also read somewhere that Arizona provides a lot of fire fighters and fire fighting equipment to California!
What’s that, LA? Santa Anna wildires again? Ooops sorry, would hate to help you out and have your head up their ass politicians violate their principals.
Ooops! Burn Baby Burn!
Teacher in Tejas on May 18, 2010 at 6:07 PM
Ok, in what state do you live? I’ll be very quick to criticize you and your entire state for every vote I don’t agree with.
speed911 on May 18, 2010 at 6:10 PM
Let Commissioner Pierce know of his awesomeness:
Arizona Corporation Commission
Commissioners Wing
1200 W. Washington – 2nd Floor
Phoenix, Arizona 85007
Phone: 602.542.3933
Fax: 602.542.5560
E-mail: Pierce-web@azcc.gov
BirdEye on May 18, 2010 at 6:11 PM
The fire fighters you are speaking of are under the pervue of the Federal Government (USFS). The state is nothing more than the district they are assigned to. Nice try though, and nice of you to wish for people’s homes to burn. Are you going to wish the state would fall into the ocean next?
speed911 on May 18, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Not a problem, in fact would enjoy the company :-) Cause I criticize them all the time. I also campaign against them and right now both my idiot senators phone answering staffers know me by name. Just for the record I didn’t criticize “You” just the opposite. I live in Virginia, right now I’m working against both Webb and Warner a rep named Moran (hopeless cause due to his district) and some people on a local level that you’ve never heard of.
Oldnuke on May 18, 2010 at 6:16 PM
Mine too.
AZCoyote on May 18, 2010 at 6:18 PM
Bobnormal, if CA wants to close their ports, go ahead. Houston TX is open for business.
SDN on May 18, 2010 at 6:21 PM
Speed; Churchill once said, “People get the government they deserve.” If all those limousine liberals (who probably pay full social security and health benefits for their Spanish speaking nannies and gardeners….cough….cough…cough) see their homes go up in smoke, then I can’t help but feel a bit of Schauenfreude for electing the kind of idiots that have run this state into the ground and then off the cliff.
Teacher in Tejas on May 18, 2010 at 6:21 PM
The fact that you vote against them, complain about them or work to get them out of office doesn’t matter. You get the blame for everything they do by simply residing in the state. We get to advocate for you power and water to be shut off, we get to wish your state will burn or fall into the ocean. Your rules, not mine.
speed911 on May 18, 2010 at 6:21 PM
GrannySunni on May 18, 2010 at 4:15 PM
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Competition canopfor….watch out. Someone is vieing for your “human encyclopedia” title… LOL
sicoit on May 18, 2010 at 4:41 PM
sicoit: Hehe,it all goes into the same information Hot Air
resource pool!!:)
canopfor on May 18, 2010 at 6:22 PM
canopfor on May 18, 2010 at 3:11 PM
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Thanks for the list of SRP plants. You’re always a great resource. Here’s a link for APS. They also have generation plants all over the state and I think they might employ more than SRP. http://www.aps.com/general_info/AboutAPS_18.html
GrannySunni on May 18, 2010 at 4:15 PM
GrannySunni:Thanks for the link,it all helps!!:)
canopfor on May 18, 2010 at 6:25 PM
“Allow me to retort”
Excellent, homage, Ed. Most excellent…
ladyingray on May 18, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Left Coast Rebel – Put Up The Best Response Graphic For California Boycotts.
Dr Evil on May 18, 2010 at 6:30 PM
You’re completely missing the point and you’re taking this way too personal. If you personally are doing everything you can then no one, including me is talking about you personally. They’re generalizing about Californians. When the people in Virginia paid attention to the media spin of the word macacca and George Allen lost his bid for Senator by a very slim margin the people of Virginia got slammed on this site and others. Rightfully so because enough of them acted stupidly to hand a majority over to Harry Reid in the Senate. Idiots! Those are people in my state and I’ll be damned if I’d even think of trying to justify their decision. Think about what you are doing. You’re trying to defend voters who routinely put liberal tools into office in your state. It may not seem like that to you but that’s what you are doing. If you disagree with that then please explain how they keep getting elected. Don’t be insulted by people who make disparaging remarks about your elected officials and the tools who keep voting for them. Be insulted by the officials and the tools.
Oldnuke on May 18, 2010 at 6:33 PM
Arizonans have been excitedly waiting for the big one to give us beaches since at least the 1970s. So actually you are a little late.
This letter is perfect. Arizonans are tired of fighting with California for our water and power.
We split the water in the Colorado evenly. But since they have such a high population they are always after our share too. We live in a desert. Water is a huge issue.
petunia on May 18, 2010 at 6:37 PM
Disneyland. The only real reason to go to L.A.
petunia on May 18, 2010 at 6:41 PM
I’m not insulted by any of you. I am a little disturbed by the knee jerk reaction to insult the entire population of an entire state based on a decision made by the LA city council. FYI, the LA city council does not represent California, nor did MOST people in California vote for or against them (or for the San Fransisco city council, for that matter). LA is ONE city in the entire state. I live in NorCal, in a district that NEVER elects liberals to represent us. And finally, polls indicate that anywhere from 83-96 percent of Californians support the AZ law. So your angst against “Californians” is misplaced.
speed911 on May 18, 2010 at 6:42 PM
Disneyland is in Anaheim which is in Orange County.
Oldnuke on May 18, 2010 at 6:43 PM
Thank you for making my point for me.
As for Arizona sending water and power to LA, most the water and power in LA is taken from Northern California…the Cascade and Sierra Nevada mountains….through the electrical grid and the California aquaduct. We don’t like it any better than the people in AZ like it. But thank you for wishing an entire state full of fellow Americans would fall into the ocean.
speed911 on May 18, 2010 at 6:46 PM
There’s a book called Cadillac Desert I read in a Water Law class that describes the history of the AZ/CA water deals.
Cut off our electricity, Arizona! Please wake up the idiots in my state!
Gary Pierce you’re my new hero.
NTWR on May 18, 2010 at 6:46 PM
Disneyland. The only real reason to go to L.A.
petunia on May 18, 2010 at 6:41 PM
Disneyland isn’t in LA, brainiac
speed911 on May 18, 2010 at 6:46 PM
rotorjoe on May 18, 2010 at 6:47 PM
God I LOVE it !!!
I live “down wind” from LA … and their mayor is nothing more than an attention seeking camera whore.
“I am confident that Arizona’s utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands.”
Do it, Do it, DO IT!
Call that little twerp’s bluff.
Chimp 6 on May 18, 2010 at 6:48 PM
Close enough for government work.
NTWR on May 18, 2010 at 6:52 PM
Been a while since I was out there. Has OC deteriorated that much? I know Garden Grove has gone downhill but the whole county?
Oldnuke on May 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM
Your mighty welcome neighbor!
All California cities look exactly alike so what’s the diff?
It used to be in an orange grove, then it was Anaheim…
Now it’s just one big ocean of people for miles and miles and miles.
People with about 25% less power.
petunia on May 18, 2010 at 6:59 PM
Well, I suppose. As long as accuracy isn’t important to ya.
speed911 on May 18, 2010 at 7:00 PM
Oh I’m just messing around, luckily from at least 200 miles north of that megalopolis. :)
NTWR on May 18, 2010 at 7:02 PM
Hell it was like that when I lived there in 1970. I never could tell where one ended and the other began. I visited out there back around 99 and it was the same but the roads were worse.
Oldnuke on May 18, 2010 at 7:02 PM
All California cities look exactly alike? WTF? Have you been to San Diego? Eureka? Sacramento? San Fransisco? South Lake Tahoe? Those cities look nothing like each other.
speed911 on May 18, 2010 at 7:03 PM
Exactly. Thus the “government work” jab. “Close enough for jazz” would have worked, too.
NTWR on May 18, 2010 at 7:03 PM
Happy to be of help! All you fine folks are so supportive of AZ and it really makes a big difference to us.
GrannySunni on May 18, 2010 at 7:04 PM
The point I’m trying to make is this…..every person in California is not an idiot liberal progressive asshat who makes stupid decisions. There are a huge number of us who are conservative and we vote that way. Unfortunately, there are not more of us than them. Also, I think it’s entirely wrong-minded, hateful and counter productive to make comments about the state burning up or falling into the ocean. These kind of divisive comments and hateful rhetoric do nothing but divide this country further.
speed911 on May 18, 2010 at 7:07 PM
Heh, I lived in Vallejo about 1965, youngest son was born there. I understand it bears a lot of resemblance to Detroit these days. Just not so big.
Oldnuke on May 18, 2010 at 7:10 PM
I’ll go one further and say that L.A city doesn’t represent the will of the entire Los Angeles county. Nevertheless, unrelated cities in the county will suffer the consequences of the idiots on the L.A city-council.
swash_plate on May 18, 2010 at 7:19 PM
You don’t live there do you…good grief.
Irvine and Eureka look just alike…Victorville and Santa Barbara, can hardly tell the difference….yeah, identical twin cities…
right2bright on May 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM
I agree completely. I think it’s really unfortunate that people are hating on each other like this. It’s not going to accomplish anything.
speed911 on May 18, 2010 at 7:27 PM
I’m thinking petunia lives in the state of confusion.
speed911 on May 18, 2010 at 7:28 PM
epic win
jcrue on May 18, 2010 at 7:33 PM
Fire up these California, but first you will have to fill the oil that has leaked out.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Tehachapi_wind_farm_3.jpg
gooddad on May 18, 2010 at 7:47 PM
Damn, I’m starting to love elected officials from Arizona. This guy’s got stones.
lonestar1 on May 18, 2010 at 7:48 PM
Went to Florida for vacation this year but I can guarantee you that Arizona has just made the top of my list for my next one.
chickasaw42 on May 18, 2010 at 8:13 PM
I suppose the Californicators will be telling their citizens to boycott the Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor next!
chickasaw42 on May 18, 2010 at 8:24 PM
I have an office in Los Angeles County. I say BRING IT ON.
The L A city counsel needs a spanking.
GOOD for AZ.
ColdWarrior57 on May 18, 2010 at 8:51 PM
If you are moving from California, you have to leave the California brain and thinking at the border. Don’t want Arizona any more screwed up than it is.
belad on May 18, 2010 at 9:40 PM
Then you better begin to make your weight be known.
If AZ pulls the plug, L.A. will go up in flames in 72hrs or less. It’ll make the 91 riots look like a cakewalk.
Does no one else see this?
The US is a powderkeg.
orbitalair on May 18, 2010 at 10:05 PM
Now that’s fightting back! :)
aikidoka on May 18, 2010 at 10:06 PM
The last legal American citizen in LA with a job, turn off the lights.
Never mind, Arizona’s going to do that for you.
NoDonkey on May 18, 2010 at 10:06 PM
Maybe that’s my ‘problem’. I moved from Tucson to the OC back in the early 80′s and obviously brought the AZ mindset with me.
Fighton03 on May 18, 2010 at 10:49 PM
Heh.
BallisticBob on May 18, 2010 at 11:03 PM
I wish the stupid bastards had boycotted Oregon! Just ruined it.
LarryG on May 19, 2010 at 12:43 AM
The reality is that the AZ law is a copy of the federal law. If The obama admistration does not like the AZ law then obama must repeal federal law before he can open his mouth about AZ.
This ignorant LA politician doesn’t even know the CA law about this issue. It is in fact the same as the AZ law and federal law.
Politicians run thier mouths for political gain. Before anyone can critize AZ they must know what they are talking about.
TomLawler on May 19, 2010 at 2:32 AM
speed911, we know that not every Californian votes for these idiots. As to the comments, they are only a response to the LA boycott. I live in Austin, Texas. It’s an island of blue, surrounded by a sea of red. Our city council decided to issue a boycott, then they found out some of their big purchases came from Arizona. So instead, they decided no more city trips to Arizona. Turns out that affects one trip a year, but everyone in Austin has to listen to the comments about our city being stupid. In my opinion, we deserve it because we let these morons get elected.
gordo on May 19, 2010 at 8:16 AM
I harbor no animus towards the good people of LA but SOMEONE allowed this troglodyte and the reactionary city council to be elected. These officials would be the first to rail against protectionism against Mexican goods but would impose their own version in the form of a boycott. Arizona should, instead of cutting off the power should add taxes, fees, what have you to the transmission costs to bleed these idiots out of existence. Is this harsh, yes, but sometimes people need a swift kick in the a$$ to wake them up and kick these morons out.
PatriotPete on May 19, 2010 at 9:33 AM
EPIC WIN…..
I’m starting to think that I may need to move to Arizona now if mere Utility board members are this awesome there
Razgriez on May 19, 2010 at 9:43 AM
Morrissey is considered to be “beloved” by a columnist in the L.A.Times who won’t sign his or her work?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/05/arizona-illegal-immigrants-los-angeles.html
For Heaven’s sake, that’s just genuinely, completely weird.
Lourdes on May 19, 2010 at 10:41 AM
Ohh, way down there at the bottom — “Andrew Malcolm”.
Morrissey is “beloved” to Andrew Malcolm.
Lourdes on May 19, 2010 at 10:44 AM
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